/vr/ - Retro Games

It'd probably have to go to Chrono Cross.

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I feel like fighting games are sort of cheating because most of the time that's really all the system has to focus on in these instances.

>>10746110
I think PE1 more but man, 2's models are so much more advanced it's like they aren't even on the same systems. PE2 is about as good as a non-fighting game's models can look on PS1

>>10751361
>I think PE1
I like PE1 more, I meant. As in I think it's a better game

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>>10748991
>5th gen
>arcade games
The concept of "gens" only really applies to home consoles, it's not fair to use it in regards to arcade games. Arcade systems typically have much shorter lifespans because the issue of long-term customer support doesn't exist, the arcade machine will be replaced quickly in any case. In case of Namco there were usually two or more per one console generation.
>inb4 they had home console ports
Yes, but those are not the versions you posted, those wouldn't say "insert coin". And they came with downgrades in graphics quality more often than not, including character models. Which is very important when considering the premise of your thread. Home console ports of arcade games with visual upgrades and not downgrades only happened during the 5th to 6th gen transition because of timing.

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Noone ever talk about Konami's Tekken clone

What do you think of Silent Hill's models? I know it has great atmosphere yet models always bugged me even on a CRT. I think it has much worse looking models compared to Resident Evil.

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>>10751454
OP here, I also made that thread about 6th gen models without fighting games.
I thought same thing shouldn't apply here because of heavy use of prerendered backgrounds. PS1 and Saturn fighting game arcade ports generally use prerendered backgrounds.
I guess it was a bad decision because considering the advantage they have by only having to render two characters.
I thought maybe including arcade games wasn't a bad idea to include more games.
I agree I made a bad decision. Ultimately this will leave us with mainly fighting games or arcade games. Sorry.

I think Vagrant Story is the best game with realistic models. Parasite Eve 2 is the second best.
It's harder to make a thread like this because of all HD rendered models. I have to capture it myself or use very old badly compressed images.
>>10751476
Looks interesting. I'll check it out.

I hate to admit it but I don't think Lara looked good ingame before TAOD.

>>10751361
PE2 is a technical marvel in every way, I was thinking of posting it itt actually. The animation is really great.

>>10751629
Silent Hill human models feel very stiff to me

>>10751629
Of course they look worse, Silent Hill is fully 3d so it has to measure how many polygons any one thing gets. By using pre-rendered backgrounds you get to save a lot on backgrounds that can be used elsewhere.

I remember reading they've improved PS1 models for MGS4 and RE6 costumes.
>>10751728
It looks magnificent.
>>10751746
I don't think that's it. Here take a look at Dino Crisis. It looks much better than Silent Hill's models despite being 3D. They went back to prerenders for the sequel because 3D areas look worse. Not because of models.

>>10751767
Is that really from the PS1 version? Looks like Dreamcast to me.

I think Syphon Filter models also look bad

>>10751769
I'm not sure. I think it's PS1 version emulated. Zoom on her neck chest area. Texture is dithered.

>>10751767
Well, when you take the complexity of the environment into account, Dino Crisis is mostly square corridors and simple architecture, while Silent Hill has way more details in the environment.

>>10751792

Fighting Force's models look quite different yet I've never liked the way they look.

>>10751796
Silent Hill also uses a lot of effects to create great atmosphere. Maybe that needs to be kept in mind. At the same time it always felt a bit crude. I think Capcom was better than them.

>>10751776
>Zoom on her neck chest area. Texture is dithered.
But is it like that because it's actually supposed to look that way, or was that picture originally a JPEG and those are just the effects of aggressive JPEG chroma downsampling? But I don't think it matters either way, emulation with enhancements will make your models look drastically better just by fixing PS1's broken texture transformations, so it's not fair to compare it like that to screenshots of games running on real hardware.

>>10751629
>Finally.
>Someone else who's OK.
The irony of that statement.

Maybe Team Silent bite off more than PS1 could chew?
>>10751810
Sorry anon I agree. I should've captured footage myself before making a thread like this.
>>10751815
kek

MGS models look quite good

>>10751728
I need to actually play PE2 one day, I've never gotten around to it because I'm not the biggest fan of RE-style gameplay

FF VIII models doesn't look that bad at low res. People attack them for wrong reason while using high res. It's fine for what it is. I agree they shouldn't have gone with realistic models.

I think Tony Hawk games looked bad before their Dreamcast enhanced port.

>>10751776
>I think it's PS1 version emulated
You wouldn't be wrong even if it wasn't the ps1 version. I heard Capcom emulated the PS1 GTE in the official PC port, so it wouldn't suprise me if that was the case for the DC version as well since it had the same (or similar, I haven't watched a video of it in forever) model and texture issues.

>thread is full of ugly jagged ps1 models
Ew

>>10751660
AAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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>>10751634
why did they remove will smith in reimagined version?

>>10753817
this hilarious to me. in all the power that modern jeetdevs have today, they couldnt even make will smith face. while ps1 with its limited capabilities and low poly models manage to perfectly recreate him
and then people telling me that new versions of these old games supposed to be 'superior'?

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>>10751776
Buddy these are definitely all the Dreamcast version, I just played it a couple nights ago

>>10751463
Amazing. This is from the Israfel dancing mission, right? Are you the anon who was doing all the asset rips/model reconstruction?

>>10751838
God I don't want to summon the anti or pro ff8 autists but at the time the jump from 7 to 8 graphically was astounding. 9 step back to a more fanciful setting torpedoed it with gamers that jumped into ff at 7 and 8's hyper realism torpedoed the gamers that had played since 3rd or 4th gen

>>10754436
The rips, a bunch of models are currently pending on Models Resource

>>10751974
>posts Vagrant Story
>no reaction

Then my father is truly dead.

>>10754574
/vr/ hates VS, something about it didn’t translate to the younger generation

>>10754579
>/vr/ hates VS
>>10751629
>I think Vagrant Story is the best game with realistic models. Parasite Eve 2 is the second best.

>hopefully at 240p
The problem with this conceptually is that 5th gen consoles are capable of handling character models better than they can actually display properly especially at 240p.

>>10754425
Now in full hd, although it does look to clean, I'll probably add some effects to make the image a little dirtier.

>>10754909
Too clean I meant.

I can't believe this can fit into a 660 mb disc. Some true wizardry.

>>10754941
Maybe try applying 240p or 480p CRT shader while rendering at high res.

>>10747083
is this the first entry or the second one?

>>10754984
Play the GOG version. High res backgrounds and everything looks crystal clear.

Fantastic looking game.

>>10746110
Yu-Gi-Oh! Forbidden Memories had superb 3D models on the PS1, it had 722 cards with most being monster cards, and all of these got their own 3D model for fully animated combat, it's a treat, of course not all of them look good, but the ones that do... look superb for the hardware.

>>10747076
i wish there where more games that looked like this that werent RPGS

i want action games and platformers that look like this
or at least some aciton rpgs

>>10753285
This mod looks like shit. Remake Arale hair is brown.

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>>10759025
Enable all the geometry corrections for god's sake, the ps1's inability to render 3d properly is torture in anything other than 240 on a crt, and even then it looked pretty noticeable.