/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10736831
yes and yes. just play it, homie

I remember playing the XBLA version forever ago and it was a ton of fun.

>>10736831
there are no saves IIRC, but you can get around the time limit with a cheat. apart from that the game is great

>>10736921
You can save from the third level actually (with Control-G in the DOS version, and restore the save from the title screen with Control-L) and you can practice the first four levels with a 15 min time limit (with Shift-L in DOS, to cycle to the next level). It's mentioned in the manual too, so it's not a hidden feature.

>>10736831
>but the 1 hour time limit terrifies me
Why does it matter?

Allergic to losing

>>10736954
Also, maybe a bit of a cheat, but you can make backups of the save file in DOS, if you're worried about overwriting it while playing or just want to keep the save of a certain level.

>>10736831
Don't be scared of the timer OP. I didn't like it in the beginning either, but as I played it more I started thinking it actually improves the game.

>>10736831
You'll be dying regularly to traps or guards than losing to the timer lmao. It's non existent because you'll just keep getting better and better.

>>10736831
Why don't you just play it and see how far you get.
Then play it again and see how much further you get.
By the third time, you will have probably beat the game.

If you use the saves, you DID NOT by any stretch of the imagination beat the god damn game.

>>10736831
>Can you just use saves to practice each level many times until you clear it in two minutes?

You can in the SNES version

you'll probably like oddworld

>>10736831
From level 4 you can save, just play slowly 1-3, restart playing faster 1-3 then from that just save as soon as the level starts and restart until you get a reasonable time.

>>10736831
yea its a really good one
dont worry about the time limit
you arent gonna save her the first time. once you git gud at the first couple levels youll be able to blaze through them and have plenty of time to figure out the rest

the movement/momentum takes some getting used to, but its actually really well done for how old a game it is

>>10736831
Nah if you like tomb raider there’s no telling how bad your taste is.

I was going to create a thread but since I see this I'll ask here, what's the best version of this game? Is the snes version good?

>>10737443
SNES and yes

>>10737443
DOS is good, and Mechner worked on it.
SNES is good too, but it's like Prince of Persia 1.5

>>10737216
>you'll probably like oddworld

The term you are looking for is 'cinematic platformer'. technically Pitfall was the first of the cinematic platformers, but I feel like Prince of Persia really defined it on PC. Back in the day, I would call them 'PC Platformers' because it was a sub genre of platformer designed for PC hardware that didn't have built in smooth scrolling hardware. The PS1 Oddworld games do count in this genre. I consider Tomb Raider to be part of it too.

>>10737478
Pretty sure the word he was looking for was Oddworld since he was specifically recommending those games.

>>10737478
>Pitfall was the first of the cinematic platformers
I don't think Pitfall qualifies as a cinematic platformer.
The genre is mostly known for its fluid animation and realism.
In Pitfall you pick up treasure by walking on it, you fall vertically down pitfalls and experience no fall-damage, you lose arbitrary points when you fall or touch a barrel, you have an arbitrary time-limit and three-life system, and the underground travel system doesn't follow any real-world logic.

>>10736968
It literally doesn't. You'll run out of lives long before you run out of time and if you're good enough to not die you'll beat the game in time easily.

>>10737652
>You'll run out of lives

>>10736831
I’d just play the game the way it was intended op. The time limit isn’t crushing. If you fail, just try the next day and do better. You’ll probably lose all lives first. It’s possible you run out of time first, second or even third playthough, but much after that and it probably means you just really suck ass.

>>10737478
>that pic
I recognize the bottom row (Karateka, PoP, Another World, Flashback, PoP2, Heart of the Alien, Blackthorne, Heart of Darkness) and Bermuda Syndrome from third row first column. And Aladdin and Limbo. But what are the others?

>>10737775
>You’ll probably lose all lives first.
Why are people saying this? You have unlimited lives.

>>10737787
Moon Crystal, Aladdin, Cyberpunk: The Arasaka's Plot, Limbo, Inside, The Eternal Castle, LUNARK, Flashback Remake
onEscapee ? Nosferatu ?
Bermuda Syndrome ? Dead Light ?

>>10737787
>>10737993
You guys don't know Warlock? It was really good for a licensed game.

>>10737993
>>10738142
Thanks, only three left.

>>10737993
>Why are people saying this?
Probably just trolling.

>>10737252
>the movement/momentum takes some getting used to, but its actually really well done for how old a game it is

PRINCE MEGAHIT

>>10737478
I fucking love Oddworld, but I tried Heart of Darkness and LIMBO and neither really did anything for me. Cool aesthetics, but only Oddworld had the gameplay to back it up for me.

>>10736831
>cinematic platformers are what helped make the current culture with video games that are more like movies and take hours to complete while you "experience" them instead of going out of your way to "beat" them like back then

change my mind

>>10737478
>24 characters and NONE are Abe
What the fuck? It's like the image was made intentionally to snub Oddworld fans under the pretense of being a casual assembly of characters

>>10738672
Sure, but that's a bit like blaming lobe-finned fishes for the invention of the atomic bomb. Cinematic platformers still had gameplay and challenge. The story and experience of the game only complimented the gameplay, and they worked off each other.

>>10738672
I haven't played a game such as you describe in years, stop being lazy and look for good games instead of bitching.

>>10738249
Found the far right one. Planet of the Apes on GBC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddmkva66SyA

>>10736831
You'll probably like Prince of Persia because its a good game but its not really similar to Tomb Raider

>>10738672
Just because it says "cinematic" in the name doesn't mean they are full of cutscenes.
Heart of Darkness probably has the most cutscenes in the genre and it adds up to less than 30 minutes.
I doubt anyone would call it a piss-easy game to beat either.

>>10736831
Play the definitive version of Prince of Persia, I'm talking about SNES, it has more levels, unique soundtrack and you'll get an unique password each time you beat a level and it will know the amount of time you spent on that level.

>>10736831
Play the SNES version. You get a password at the beginning of every stage. If you feel like you've been fucking around in any one level for too long, exit and restart with the password and you're back to where you started. Although you don't have to be too much of an autist about it, as long as you don't get hung up on any one level and piss away a bunch of time the limit is fairly manageable

Also the SNES version has extra stages, a slightly longer time limit and looks/sounds the best out of any of the ports so I recommend it just for general purposes

>>10738595
kino

>>10737112
I unironically agree with this
BUT I think using the saves is fine as practice towards achieving that. But the ultimate goal is to do a full no-saves playthrough.

>>10736831
Think of the time limit as your mom calling you down to eat and you just have to stop whatever you're doing. 1 hour long gaming sessions are more than enough anyway. You need to rest your eyes sweetie.

>>10738672
they're "cinematic" only by name - there's no passive "just sit and watch" in their gameplay
if there are any "quick time event"-like situations, escaping them relies on uninterrupted game controls - completely unlike modern "tap this on-screen highlighted button fast or on time to make character succeed with complicated/enhanced action"

>>10738949
Nice thanks! Still haven't figured out the remaining two.

>>10740190
Took me way too long but the 1 on the left is also just Planet of the Apes but the GBA version.

And the last one is DreamBreak

>>10741524
Well done, I wouldn't have guessed the GBA version would look that different. I looked at some screenshots of DreamBreak too, but all of them with other characters/outfits.

>>10738753
Yeah the selection is a bit unusual, Oddworld being the obvious missing one. I think Aladdin is a bit of a gray area too if it even is a cinematic platformer (being able to change jumping direction mid-air doesn't sit right with me). A lot of games I haven't played or even heard of before either.

>>10741809
is alien on the ds one of these? or is it a "metroidvania"?

>>10741524
Damn that looks sovl as fvck

>>10741829
I don't know honestly. From the looks of it, I think I'd call it a metroid-style platformer. But cinematic platformer is a pretty loose term, so it might depend on who you ask and how strict their definition is. Even the games that define the genre, like Prince of Persia, Another World and Flashback, are very different from each other in some ways.

>>10741809
>I looked at some screenshots of DreamBreak too, but all of them with other characters/outfits.
I definitely overlooked it several times as well for the same reason but I got lucky in coming across the right screenshot

>>10741892
reviews are not great unfortunately but I agree it looks beautiful. Might be worth a shot still though, who knows

>>10741524
>>10741809
Cool stuff.
Add Abe in.

>>10742417
but where would you put him?
it would break the image's symmetry
he'd be the Odd one out

>>10742417
>>10742826
Best I could do.

>>10742864
This was exactly my thought, but I am not talented enough to have pulled this off. Nice work.

>>10736887
Reminds me of Flashback.

>>10736831
I think that I played this game on four completely diffrent systems. If true thats a highscore for me. C64, Amiga, Atari and PC.

>>10742826
>he'd be the Odd one out

I did it bros
killed Jaffar with 57 seconds left lol

>>10746952
Wow... thanks for the spoilers

>>10746979
you also get a hug

>>10746985
You son of a bitch... I'm in

God tier: SNES, SLDPoP
Great tier: DOS, Amiga, Apple II, Macintosh
Good tier: Turbografx CD, Sharp X68000, PC-98, Sega CD, FM Towns
Ok tier: Genesis, Armstrad CPC, SAM Coupé, Atari ST, Wii, Nintendo 3DS
Shit tier: Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Game Gear, Master System, NES, PoP retro (iOS)
Soulless tier: POP Classic (remake)
Meme tier: Browser mini version from 2003, ZX Spectrum, BBC Micro, Comodore 64, Harem Adventures

>>10736831
>the 1 hour time limit terrifies me
I seriously want you to explore this feeling and try and figure out why you feel this way. Is it healthy? Does it aid your enjoyment of video games? What, exactly, are you so afraid of? Why do you need your experience to be different from everyone else's who played this game when it was new (and not-so-new)? What do you feel you'll be "missing", exactly? Why does the thought replaying a game fill you with dread?

I really hope you seriously consider this and how it affects your relationship to what is supposed to be a fun relaxing pasttime.

>>10746952

>>10740190
>>10741809
Abe and Game Boy Lara Croft should be here.

>>10747419
>Soulless tier: POP Classic (remake)
The first digital game I bought, in 2009. I wish I hadn't.

Good read, updooted.

>>10746952
nice! congratulations anon