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People always say it's unfair to compare the N64 to the Dreamcast because the former released 2 years before the latter, but why do people compare the N64 to the PS1/Saturn, given there's a gap of two years between them as well? How do you define one or the other as belonging to X or Y generation?

>> No.10728105

>>10728093
you don't.

>> No.10728106

>>10728093
The dreamcast seems almost purpose-built to beat the consoles that came before it. I saw that as somebody who grew up with them. The problem sega had wasn't their talent in development or engineering. They were always a step behind most of their competition as things started to modernize because they were always a gaming company first, and they had yet to face the tech companies. How Nintendo got by? Fuck if I know. Maybe they were just that good.

>> No.10728110

>>10728093
n64, psx and saturn were released to directly compete with each other, dreamcast was released to be (and was) better than the others, it failed because it came out like a year and a half too early

>> No.10728114

>>10728093
1. I actually do think it's unfair to compare the PS1/Saturn to the N64, because the N64 so obviously has better 3D.
2. Generations are a rudimentary categorization. But with that being said, Dreamcast clusters closer to PS2, and N64 clusters closer to PS1.

>> No.10728124

>>10728093
Dreamcast is 6th gen and everyone has always understood that.

>> No.10728130

>>10728124
I have watched several youtube essays that proves you wrong

>> No.10728282

>>10728093
They are all the same console generation imo. Yes, the DC started and ended before the GameCube and Xbox.

>> No.10728298

>>10728093
PSX and Saturn have no texture filtering
N64 and Dreamcast have texture filtering
Typical of retards who like the latter two consoles to try a fight with earlier consoles (and still get fucked lmao)

>> No.10728302

>>10728298
Dreamcast is heaps better than Saturn

>> No.10729656

>>10728130
>youtube essays that proves you wrong
I know this is a joke but fuck... most of these are insufferable and way too long just to state some BS emotional opinions with no backing.

>> No.10731172

>>10728130
are they peer reviewed? you fucking sweaty nerd.

>> No.10731175

>>10728106
Was this written by a bot? It makes no sense.

>> No.10731178

I usually don't care much about a system other than how much I like the games on it. I see nothing wrong with comparing any system with any other system. I like the N64 more than the Dreamcast cause there's more N64 games that I like, but the Dreamcast is still cool. But the Dreamcast obviously has better specs.

>> No.10731179

>>10731175
He's saying with the Dreamcast sega had to make the move to try to beat the other consoles in terms of power because they had a history of being less powerful than other systems and he was saying that once tech companies got into making consoles it got harder because Sega is a gaming company not a tech company. I don't see what's hard to understand

>> No.10731181
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10731181

dreamcast felt like its own gen

>> No.10731213

both saturn and dreamcast have a pathetically small amount of 3D platformers

>> No.10731352

>>10731213
>Sonic Adventure 1
>Sonic Adventure 2
>Rayman 2
>Napple Tale
>Floigan Bros.
>Kao the Kangaroo
Dreamcast has enough 3D platformers and would get more if it lived longer.

>> No.10733160

>>10728298
>N64 and Dreamcast have texture filterin
N64 barely has any texture. Just a square filled with some gradient color or a blurry splotch.
There is nothing to filter.

>> No.10734823

>>10728093
It's all a matter of narrative, in this case Nintendo fans trying to skew the narrative into Nintendo's favor despite them not deserving it because the N64 really wasn't that great when looking at the whole context of it.

>> No.10734852

>>10728106
Plus SEGA ostracized retailers by forcing accessories and add-on's that weren't selling. The Genesis, Saturn, and Nomad pushed SEGA out of non-national stores. I only ever saw a Dreamcast in a K-Mart, which SEGA later sued due to the DC. SEGA committed console-distributor suicide and let Nintendo get ahead and ride the nostalgia train while Sony and Microsoft exploded naturally.

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10735751

>>10731352
>and would get more if it lived longer.

This.

When people judge the Dreamcast's library, which is full of good stuff in pretty much all major genres by the way, they forget how it didn't even have many years in the market...

>> No.10737382

>>10728093
I always considered, even when very young and I had no concept of "generations" to put to words, Dreamcast to be a sort of no man's land 5.5th gen console.

Most sources I see today place DC as properly 6th gen, but growing up my perception was always that DC was either an extremely impressive 5th gen or a kinda shitty 6th gen console.

As a kid, my mind compared it more directly with the N64, though I also had no idea what a Saturn was so to my young mind the DC filled that competitive niche.