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Get Virtua Fighter 2, yo

There are still at least two other Saturn threads up.
>>>/vg/saturn

>>1066663
That about covers it.
You'll want an Action Replay or something similar to play import games (I would emphasize the Salamander Deluxe Pack Plus based on personal experience.)
Also, if your Saturn won't save games, don't panic. Just get a new CR2032 battery and look up online to see how to install it, and you should be good to go for at least another 12 years.

>>1066676
thanks! this is awesome

i've always wondered if megaman 8 was better on ps1 or saturn

How reliable is the Saturn? I bought a used Dreamcast, it worked for 4 months and then died. Bought a used Sega CD, it worked for 7 months and then it died.

I'm not a "console repair" guy as I am terrible (ie- too afraid to fuck things up further) at tech work/soldering.

I might consider getting a Saturn and just waiting until the SSIO comes out down the line.

>>1066663
Hell son, looks like a bunch of chinese cartoons to me.

>>1066695
>not liking chinese cartoons
Whoa look at this weeaboo

>>1066650
Best game: Panzer Dragoon Saga.

Should be plenty floating around online. Have fun!

>>1066691
I got a fairly beat up one, and I've had no problems with it.

Keep in mind that the Dreamcast was more or less rushed out onto the shelves to find a following by promising better graphics a couple years before the upcoming 6th gen. It has more problems than anything else made by Sega (to my knowledge).

Hey man, I'm looking to sell my Saturn. It works perfectly, I have Nights and the 3D controller. Let me know if you're interested.

>>1066652
Virtua Fighter 2 is good but the greatest 3D fighter of that and perhaps the following generation was the Saturn exclusive Fighters Megamix. Really fun game.

>>1066691
Your Dreamcast might not be dead. The Dreamcast and Saturn's powerchords have a problem of blowing out. Borrow a friends or buy one and see if that is the problem.

Dragon Force.

>>1068348
Dreamcast discussion is not allowed on /vr/

Sage for breaking the rules

>>1066650
Fuck off, if all these johnny come latelys bought their Saturns in 1996 instead of 2013 there'd be a hell of a lot more good games for all of us.

>>1068778

my favorite saturn game is Magic Knight Rayearth. if you like anime girls and RPG's, go for it. it's pretty simple, but I really enjoy it. voice acting is typical american 90's VA

>>1066691
>How reliable is the Saturn?

Most Saturns I have can read cracked discs. The power supply is dodgy on earlier models though. Bear in mind that most Saturns are between 16-19 years old by now.

I still have modded saturns for sale for eurobros, in case anyone is interested.

He saturnbrethen, my Acton replay cart battery died, damn, lost a lot of saves... any tip on replacing it? Like what kind of battery do I need to buy? I haven't opened the cart yet, to be honest I haven't even plugged it back yet, I'm aware of how fragile the Saturn slot is, I never wanted to take out the cart ever again... but I have no other choice now anyway.

>>1069041
How much do you want for one? And where are you from.

>>1069045
Action Replays use flash memory not battery, last time I checked. If the entire card just doesn't work anymore, you might have to re-flash the firmware.

>>1069132

The action replay works, but once I turn off the system, the data is all lost. How can I reflash de firmware? is that even possible?

Some anon said some time ago that these action replay carts have cheap 1996 batteries that don't last too long, so I don't know anymore.

>>1069192
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcIYDxmnKHY

>2013
>Sega Saturn Thread
>Not posting Segata Sanshiro

>>1069127
Central Europe. I'll post more details later when I get home, I have them written down. The machines are standard PAL models with a modchip and a 50/60hz switch installed next to the battery (so the case is not cut up and it doesn't get in the way of the VCD Card).

>>1069421
>>1069127
ok, 105£ to England (including postage).

85€ + postage to mainland Europe (postage price varies per country and shipping method).

The mod looks like this; note that this is a machine I sold last month.

bump

I bought a model 2 saturn from a pawn shop in like 2010, then a few months ago I finally got some av cables and a game for it.
Astal on Saturn, meh platformer.
Want to mod it to play compilation discs, like 3-4 games on a single disc? Seems like the only way to really go until saturn emulation doesn't suck a bag of donkey dicks

>>1072434
You're so right,

SSF is a clunky piece of crap.
Yabause's compatibility is spotty at best.

>>1072453
>>1072434
I played through Panzer Dragoon Saga, Radiant Silvergun, and a shit load of fighters/shmups back in 2007 with SSF.

Saturn emulation only sucks if 1) you are so brain dead that you can't set up an emulator and a virtual drive or your machine is full of viruses that prevent any of them from working right, and 2) if you are on Linux or mac.

>>1072474
I've never had problems setting up emulators before.
I've even built custom launchers for the emulators I'm currently using to unify emulator features to all be controlled via the controller mid-game.

My computers spec is more than good enough, I'm running Windows and image mounting isn't the issue.

Any other issues/insults?

If you don't know Japanese, learn it. And there, you have access to a library of games many times larger than what the West got. A shit ton cheaper, too.

>>1072453
>SSF is a clunky piece of crap.
The UI is a mess, but the emulation itself is practically perfect. Stop being an idiot

>>1072518
An emulator not being able to play a stored image is ridiculous.
I have a cue/bin pair mounted virtually, I still get this then it quits.

A 'practically perfect' emulator is useless if it can't even start.

>>1072530
Don't blame the emulator if *you* can't get it to start, I have no problems with it.
As I said, the UI is not ideal, but the emulations works.
Try changing your drive in the settings, you're probably not pointing to your virtual drive. Either that or it's a bad cd rip, unfortunately most saturn rips are terrible

>>1072530
>An emulator not being able to play a stored image is ridiculous.

No it's not. It emulates the game hardware, not an entire CD drive. Plus you have sixty different image formats to consider supporting as well, at which point it's easier to use a virtual drive. Kega can also load cd images, but anything other than a cdrwin4 bin/cue will have issues with it. And it's still simpler than using, say, MESS.

That image is supposed to say "利用可能なCDドライブがありません." by the way, meaning that there are no usable CD drives. That can mean either that you have motherboard chipset/sata drivers fucked up, or some compatibility issue in your virtual cd software (possibly also driver related). I use the free Daemon Tools Lite and it works just fine with SSF.
I also recall SSF not starting if I did something that locked the CD Drive, like burning a disc.

I have a few saturn questions if anyone more knowledgeable than me has time to answer.

1. An action replay (4 in 1) pretty much covers everything I need to play any US/JP saturn game, right? Do I need any mods if I'm not planning on getting PAL games or doing more advanced things with it?

2. Is there any reason to get more than 2 analog controllers? Are there any games that are both Multitap and analog controller compatible?

>>1072530
>being this spoonfed

>not using yabause
Stop using your cheap Asian emulators.

>>1072723
>using yabause
Stop using your shitty emulators.

>>1072730
Better than the other ones. Far better.

>>1072710
Action Replay works as a cheat device, a region bypasser, and a 4mb ram cart. You can also use it for saves but you have to rely on the internal memory because you can only save on the cart from its own menu, not from games.
Which sucks because it takes long, can get confusing once you start juggling a lot of saves, and some games use huge save files that either take up the majority of the internal memory or don't even fit in it.

Also the Action Replay tends to die too fucking often, and while it can be saved by reflashing, you lose your saves. So getting an extra save cart is a must. Also you might want to install a region switch or region free bios (or a modchip and then region patch your games) so you don't have to go through the ARs stupid fucking menu every time.

>2. Is there any reason to get more than 2 analog controllers?

I can't even think of a reason to get one. Nights doesn't count. I think Quake used it for a kickass control scheme though?

>>1072747
>Better than the other ones. Far better.

Yabause is only good for its debugger, which they are progressively developing backwards. SSF had some ~80% of games properly playable going as far back as 2007.

>>1072759
I have yet to get a single game working well in SSF. Yabause plays every single one of my Saturn games perfectly or near-perfectly.

>>1072768

>>1072773
Sorry, but it's true.

I don't know how everyone gets SSF to work so well. Every time I try it I just shake my head as it can't even run simple games anywhere close to perfect.

Maybe I'm doing something horribly wrong, but it's just terrible for me.

>>1072647
I'm starting to think the "sixty image formats to consider" would have been easier.
Thanks for helping me narrow things down though.
The image was mounted with Daemon Tools, chances are it's the image file at this point.

>>1072720
>being this upset over somebody posting a legitimate problem.

>>1072778
>The image was mounted with Daemon Tools, chances are it's the image file at this point.

You have to be careful about Saturn games. Try to get the game from Trurip or TOSEC.

>>1072778
Who's upset? I'm laughing at you.

>>1072796
Oh, OK then. As you were.

>>1072781
correct. Most of the images floating on the net are bad rips. Especially now with Underground-gamer dead. Tosec and TRURIP files are all good.

To everyone having problems with SSF, remember that it uses PER-GAME SETTINGS. That is, if you configure it once, and change a game, you'll have to configure it again for that game.
To get around this, run it with no games mounted. Whatever you set up then, will be the "default" options for any games that don't already have their own ini files. Also, delete the "setting" folder from the emulator to reset all per-game settings you made.

>>1072780
Just a week ago I picked up quite a few Saturn iso's and had the exact opposite experience. Yabause and satourne were both having a mess of problems with radiant silvergun while SSF ran it like a champ.

On the other hand, there were a few that SSF wouldn't run either. Perhaps YMMV no matter which emulator on the saturn.

>>1072780
>>1072931
Ultimately anecdotes like this are meaningless unless you can verify that your rips were from good sources.

Protip: Japanese memory cards works on US Saturns, and in general I think memory cards are region free. I got an official Japanese Sega memory card for $20 when all the US versions were selling for $50.

In comparison to PSX memory cards, the Saturn cards are faster and have much more space. I can't see every possibly needing more than on Saturn memory card.

>>1066650
Old pic of my collection, got a few more games and accessories since this.

I love the Sega Saturn, it's easily my most favorite system of all time. With gems like Clockwork Knight, AMOK, Mass Destruction, and Sky Target how can you go wrong?

Luckily a lot of great Saturn games aren't expensive and it has a great library of many different genres.

Sega Saturn is number one.

>>1072940
Sure, but if one chokes while another doesn't, that would be good to know.

>>1072940
I'm the one that had trouble with SSF and uses yabause.

I don't use "rips". I am playing actual Saturn disks.

So there's that.

>>1073069
>rips in scare quotes

So authentic.

>>1073078
>scare quotes
What? I'm quoting who I'm referring to.

I love Saturn. Have a NTSC-U model 1, a NTSC-J model 2, and looking to get a modded NTSC-U model 1. Some of the games I love and recommend are:

-Nights into Dreams (seriously like my favorite game of all time. Look into getting the 3D controller for it, as it will make it a lot easier)
-Earthworm Jim 2
-Clockwork Knight
-House of the Dead (goes for like 80 bucks though)
-Road Rash (only really if you like the series. Port of the Sega CD version)
-World Series Baseball 98 (if you're into sports)
-Fighter's Megamix (not really a fan of fighting games, so I can't really say how technical this game is... but it is a nice little fighter with friends with some interesting unlockable characters)
-Any of the Panzer Dragoon games
-If you get region-free (look into Action Replay 4-in-1 cart; available on racketboy and Sega Style store), I suggest checking out the Saturn version of SOTN, if you're a fan. There are some shitty loading times and lag, but Maria is kinda cool to play as, and the two bonus areas and items are kinda cool too. Again, only if you're a fan of SOTN and want to explore it a bit more... if you've never played it, I still recommend the PS1 version

>>1073082
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes

>>1073098
That has absolutely nothing to do with what I did.

I simply said I don't use a "rip" instead of the more 4chan-standard
>rip
I don't use those.

If I had said that you wouldn't have even blinked an eye.

>game is called nights into dreams
>looks cozy and comfy as fuck
>been playing it past few nights(le XD) in a row before bed
>what am i doing.jpg

I managed to pass the first Mare of the girl's with a C. Instead of moving onto the 2nd dream night I decided to go with the boy next. Can not make it past the boss with anything higher than a D. Any advice for a beginner?

>>1073187
After you get the Idea (the colored orb things), just keep doing laps to increase your score instead of dropping them off immediately. Most of the boss fights are just practice too

>>1073069
The SSF author actually suggests ripping your games into disc images (raw with pregap check) and running them from Daemon Tools, because PC optical drives don't have fast enough response time and cause some games to crash.