/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10687437
No I play the originals with an emulator.

>>10687437
I don't play cheap cashgrabs.

>>10687471
The overwhelming majority of retro games were cheap cash grabs. Most of them had dev teams that were even smaller than indie games have, and they cost roughly the same as games do today without adjusting for inflation.

>>10687479
>The overwhelming majority of retro games were cheap cash grabs
but enough about Nintendo games. We're discussing Tomb Raider, the influential, groundbreaking title from Eidos.

>>10687479
well that's just too bad. good thing my ps1 was chipped in the 90s so i never had such thoughts occur to me

>>10687437
booba

>>10687437
I'll buy it in the hope they'll make more classic style Tomb Raider games. Seems like what Embracer are doing by shitting this thing out. If it doesn't sell well we get more nuLara

>>10687479
Yeah, but were talking about remasters here.
Even an assetflip shovelware has more value than directx 12 paint slap on top of archaic engine.

>>10687437
The new footage looks pretty good, so yeah.
But I wonder if they implemented flares into 1 since the areas are a lot darker now.
Also TR3 might be brutal without infinite flares.

>>10687485
Tomb Raider was cheaper and quicker to create than basically all first party Nintendo games of the time. Not sure how you didn't know that.

There were PS1 games with genuinely big teams and budgets, but not fucking Tomb Raider kek.

>>10687437
The originals still work fine, so no.

>>10687509
>muh big budgets
why are you such a populist bitch? bigger budgets and teams translate to less passion and more cash grabs as you have to minimize risks. That's why Nintendo made 80% of its library Mario and Zelda

>>10687509
>>10687485
Neither of them were cheap cash grabs obviously, but it's pretty amazing looking at Tomb Raider beside Ocarina of Time which had a staff of over 200 people working on it while TR was done by a group of six.

>>10687437
>No I play the originals with an emulator.

Personally, I feel like some sort of remasters of the original Tomb Raider Trilogy (at the least) was long overdue. We would see remasters of games one console generation out. Like the Tomb Raider reboot, for example. But the originals have been left untouched for close to 30 years for some of them. These remasters are being built from the 'original' source codes and contain an HD pack for the models and textures, along with a few other added features. If they turn out well, than great.

Kind of random, but this is the first time that the original Tomb Raider games will appear on a Nintendo console officially. Tomb Raider 1 was on the Saturn, and did get a few other ports. But Tomb Raider 2 and 3 have always been PS1 exclusives on console (not including PSN) as well as PC releases. I think they were ported to at least iOS and Android.

>>10687509
The fact that so many sites still name Ocarina of Time as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" video game ever only tells you how far video games still are from becoming a serious art. Film critics have long recognized that the greatest films of all times are Citizen Kane and The Seventh Seal, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Literature critics rank the highly controversial Joyce's Ulysses over classical novels who were highly popular in libraries around Europe. Video games critics are still blinded by commercial success. Ocarina of Time invented lock-on (not true, by the way), therefore it must have been the greatest. Film critics grow up watching a lot of films of the past, literature critics grow up reading a lot of classical books of the past. Video game critics are often totally ignorant of the video games of the past, they barely know the Nintendo games. No wonder they will think that Ocarina did anything worthy of being saved.

It looks alright desu. I'll probably get it just to have a nice widescreen PC version that works out of the box with gamepads and doesn't need any tinkering. OpenLara is good but it really only works properly with TR1. Not especially interested in the new graphics, but it looks fine.

>>10687471
>doubled framerate
>new optional graphics option that's faithful to the original CG design and can be switched on the fly
>restored cut content
>cash grab

>>10687596
There’s not a single bong title that is important in the grand scheme of video games.
>Space Invaders
>Super Mario Bros.
>Tetris
>Zelda
>Final Fight
>Street Fighter II
>Mario 64
>Quake
>Half Life
>fucking Halo of all things
These are the most influential games of all time.
Sorry, Nigel. No once cares about your games, innit bonkers m8?

>>10687617
why dickride the remaster?

Looks warmer

>>10687437
No, because they didn't include The Last Revelation which is my favorite Tomb Raider game, so fuck them.

>>10687628
>>Zelda
What did it influence, future Zelda titles and other Zelda-likes, the latter no one plays?

>>10687596
Bro tried to sneak in the seventh seal

>>10687629
I'm not even buying it, if anything I'll pirate it. I'm just pointing out that calling it a cashgrab is actually inaccurate in this case for once.

>>10687485
Amazing how this anon correctly identified he was talking to a nintoddler, and sure enough, he uncovered his mask and a nintoddler he was.

They have to remake it to introduce lara tits back.
We are in the age of tits again.

>>10687654
>he still mad
You do know your garbage GTA games were influenced by Zelda and Mario, per Sam Houser? You know that roight m8?
Have a cuppa

>>10687679
>You do know your garbage GTA games were influenced by Zelda and Mario, per Sam Houser?
ahahahaha I knew you would use that whack quote!

Did you know Sam Houser at the time of GTA 3's development was just an executive and didn't take part of GTA 3's development at all? GTA 3 doesn't play like Zelda at all. You guys repeat your empty tautology over and over and over and you're never able to pinpoint which specific factors did GTA 3 take from OoT. Because you can't think for yourselves! you only know how to appeal to authority and that's it. GTA 3 is just GTA 1 in a 3D plane, which precedes OoT, and nothing about it resembles the latter anyway. But you do you and keep mindlessly parroting what you see on the internet instead of experiencing the games for yourself.

Let’s see, should I believe
>actual game dev
or
>braindead kebab muncher on 4chan
Really makes one ponder

>>10687654
>What did it influence
One of the most obvious examples is Dark Souls. Now please, walk me through the mental gymnastics you've done to convince yourself otherwise. I can't wait.

People are gonna nitpick it to hell and back. But she looks like those old advertisement renders from back then and that's a huge upside.

>>10687724
>One of the most obvious examples is Dark Souls
This is such a jump in logic that you must think OoT was the first 3D game ever and Dark Souls the second. Adding lock-on to your game doesn't mean it's influenced by Zelda (nor did Zelda invented the goddamned lock-on). Demon's Souls and further Souls-likes just follow the FromSoft formula of Dungeon Crawlers a la King's Field or Eternal Ring, with improved combat that drinks more from Devil May Cry than Zelda.

Only a man with severe retardation can play Dark Souls and think "ummm yes, this is like Zelda!". Play more games. I'll stop engaging with derailing retards who want to make everything about Nintendo by trying to put down everything else. Tired of your shit, if your game wasn't on your toy box, it means it's bad or influenced by Nintendo. No game outside the tendie ecosystem can stand on its own, no, it must be all merit of Nintendo. Literal mental illness.

>>10687724
Ah yes, Dark Souls, the game that sprang into the universe fully formed with no predecessors except Zelda

>>10687774
Miyazaki literally cited Ico, Zelda, Kings Field, and Dragon Quest as the influences for the souls series. I can feel the anger and absolute butthurt emanating from your post, but your little tantrum will not change the truth of the matter. Cry more

>>10687650
I'm impressed how dense the Jungle looks now.
Even just watching the footage I got lost and I recently played through TR3.
Mudhut will be hilarious though since the mud doesn't wobble anymore.

>>10687797
No, what happened is that anons recognized your agenda from miles away and called you out on it, and instead of admitting it and apologizing for trying to derail a thread about Tomb Raider and its remake, you doubled down on your retardation because oh noooooo noooooo people CAN'T enjoy a game without giving Nintendo its dues! nooooooooo that can't be! Nintendo must be in everyone's heads all the time! so we'll beat their heads down by saying all the games anons enjoy must be influenced by Nintendo, and if not, then they must be bad. Anons can't be left alone enjoying things that doesn't enforce the Nintendo agenda, I must enforce the totalitarian monoculture! and now you're trying to deflect and keep moving the goalposts. So no, fuck you.

>>10687789
No one claimed Zelda didn't have influences.

>>10687806
You literally derailed the thread yourself you spastic retard >>10687485
>>10687596

>>10687797
Cool, Dark Souls doesn't play like Ico or Dragon Quest either. Miyazaki could smoke all the weed he cans when he speaks, but I'll make use of my brain. Influences should be based on more concrete evidence, not simply "I liked the vibe of this game and I think about it from time to time".

>>10687816
Funny how entering a thread you don't like and calling a thing people enjoy discussing a "cheap cashgrab" is not derailing the thread according to you. That was totally a point made in good faith, surely.
You're a tendie who got caught stealing and now are trying to deflect every way you can.

>>10687806
>>10687596
>starts screaming about ocarina of time in a tomb raider thread, out of absolutely nowhere
>wonders why the thread got derailed
lmao

>>10687724
Not him, but it's funny that in the Alundra thread someone is bemoaning the opposite take, that Zelda didn't influence very things nearly enough and that games in the vein are few and far between.

Which I wouldn't entirely agree with, but if you look at the way Doom's popularity made the fos genre blow up and start getting constant clones, or Street Fighter 2 doing the same thing and leading to a glut of fighting game spinoffs. Zelda remains a bit of it's own thing, there aren't a ton of games old or new that get referred to as Zelda clones and most that do like Alundra, Okami or Beyond Oasis are actually not very similar.

>>10687582
Tomb Raider is a cheap cash grab, yeah.

>>10687826
Did ur mum drink too many pints when your little monkey fetus was in her ancient cavernous womb? Ur a bit mental, m8.

>>10687845
It was trying to follow uhhhh... the fad of female-led hardcore platforming games started by uhhh.... uhhhhhh...

These remasters will probably be easy to mod, so nude Lara for sure this time and it won't be just a texture replace. So that's great and we should hurrah

>>10687850
Tomb Raider is an OG Prince of Persia game in 3D. I am being absolutely serious.

>>10687845
Drscribe how.

>>10687871
It's low budget garbage, designed to sell titties to retards.

>>10687869
Ah yes, that cheap cash grab trying to follow the fad of PoP-likes, that 2D game from 1989 who had lost nearly all commercial relevance in 1996.
>>10687889
I'm sure you also believe Avengers: Endgame is a more refined and personal film than Pulp Fiction. Bigger budget = more passion and quality always, right?

>>10687889
>hurr durr more money more betterer plus plus
Suddenly I understand the twisted mind of the nintoddler better.

I don't know who is arguing what in here anymore, except for the sperg who hates TR.

>>10687906
>I'm sure you also believe Avengers: Endgame is a more refined and personal film than Pulp Fiction.
Pulp Fiction is by no means a "cheap" movie. It had a budget in the millions, unlike Tomb Raider. What do you think "cheap" means, exactly?
>Bigger budget = more passion and quality always, right?
No, but Tomb Raider was low quality, despite that. It was a game designed to sell titties to retards. The ads from back then make that unambiguously clear.
>>10687916
That isn't what anyone claimed. Work on that reading comprehension.

>>10687889
Well it was made by just six people so of course it didn't have a high budget. There's far more to it than boobs though, is that really the extent to which you have a real criticism?

I see that the faggots who failed the shit the /v/ thread with false outrage moved to this one.

What's this new cope saying that tomb raider games were good because they were le comfy or something?

All the games have the same shit, same graphics, animations, annoying gun sounds, boring gameplay and retarded platformign and every level is some sort of shitty dark cave that you have to pull 55 fucking levers to open some square block on the other side of the map, am i going insane? These fucking games were always shit lmao

>>10688035
tryhard

>>10687845
>>10687509
>>10687930
>>10687889
Cope and seethe, nintendoid.

>>10688039
Refute anything i said faggot

>>10688035
Change annoying gun sounds for annoying low hearts beeps and you've described Zelda to a T

>>10688043
Okay. No it isn't. There, I refuted all of it, since it was just opinion anyway.

>>10688043
just because a retard like you thinks its boring doesnt make it a bad game. nobody cares about your opinion. now stop shitting up the thread and fuck off

>>10688042
Yes, Tomb Raider was indeed a 1996 action-adventure game by Eidos Interaction, on Saturn, PC, and Playstation. Fascinating chart.

>>10688035
The local Zelda fans have been basically trolling any series that isn't Zelda for so.e time now. Tomb Raider sucks because people liked it and it wasn't one of Nintendo's big first party releases. I wish I was joking.

>>10688070
>>10688067
>>10688061
Shilloids are mad as fuck, these games are fucking trash and ALL of them play the same, cheap garbage

>>10688078
One of the best video games ever made*

Fixed that for you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_considered_the_best

>>10688082
Cope and seethe, maldy. You'll NEVER get rid of the tens of millions of sales, and you'll NEVER get rid of the fact that it's considered one of the best video games ever made, and you'll NEVER get rid of Lara Croft as an iconic symbol of female protagonists in gaming.

>>10688085
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_considered_the_best

>Overwatch
>Fortnite
>Hearthstone
>Dota 2
>Grand Theft Auto V
>League of Legends
>Borderlands
>Angry Birds
Wow, compelling list you have there.

>>10688104
Yes, and?

>>10688104
Wikipedia never lies you fucking shill Fortnight and Overwatch are greatly loved for the same reason Zelda is.

>>10688104
I literally don't see any difference between including Angry Birds and Fortnite over Pac-Man and Final Fantasy 4....All the same shit to me.

>>10687485
Nice headshot

>>10688124
The important take away is that everyone has different tastes so lists like that really only matter to marketing people and even then only somewhat. The whole "everyone should like X because critics say so" doesn't really fly in any mediums like this.

>>10688104
Same list that includes a bunch of nintendo games

>>10688151
I think you proved the point he was trying to make

>>10688146
The list is curated based on having 6 references from professional sources that consider all gaming titles released. It's about the most unbiased of an article you could get.

>>10688158
I'm not saying it's biased, I'm saying a list of what's most popular doesn't really matter to most people. There's probably hardly anyone for whom that list has all games they like and doesn't leave out their other favorites.

It's like hearing Frozen 2 or Avengers End Game were wildly popular. If you agree you shrug because it's seems obvious, if you don't agree you shrug because who really expects what's most popular to always be most appealing?

The nu-Rex looks like a total nerd lol no thanks
maybe after it's fixed with mods

>>10687437
>no save crystals
>cropped FMVs
>missing PSX exclusive effects like TR2's animated inventory screen because they used the shitty PC ports as a base
>zoomer control options

>>10688182
>most popular
Except all of those games have the critical reviews to back them up.

>>10688296
So do Frozen and Avengers and that's not me saying they're bad, but it doesn't mean they'll appeal to everyone. How many of the games in that list are you personally a fan of versus how many do you not care for?

>>10687837
Alundra is extremely similar to 2D Zelda.

>>10687437
I will, at least the first one

>>10687596
delicious

>>10687479
Cheap yes, cash grabs no. Overwhelming majority of retro games were small teams having an idea and executing it the best they could. Sometimes their best was shit, but that still doesn't make it a "cash grab".

>Most of them had dev teams that were even smaller than indie games have
That's a 100% good thing and results in games having actual vision and soul. We should have a law that says no game can be made by more than 10 people.

>>10688296
>critical reviews
What does that have to anything? Do you think reviewers are children of the universe who were bestowed some sort of special authority by God to decide which media is the best?

This thread reads like /v/tier garbage. Everyone should be executed for their stupidity and for bringing down the already low quality of the board. Or at least the retard that started the shitposting, fucking scum.

>>10688364
I will give them credit, I kinda like how dark it is, like they were trying to preserve the spookiness of the original's black fog.

>>10688390
>cash grabs no
No, plenty of them were cash grabs.

>>10688446
It is the same shitposters trying to derail the /v/ threads.
Unironically the same ones who goes on to derail remaster threads, get exposed and then proceed to call everyone shills and trannies, like the projecting aberrations they are.

best of all is that there is nothing for them to nitpick with this remaster, and they are desperate to find a issue.

>>10687471
based
>>10687479
>The overwhelming majority of retro games were cheap cash grabs.
perhaps relative to their own time of innovation and experimentation, now they're gems from the golden age that you can't compare to the crap made today

>>10688462
So much this! They just nailed it. I'm thinking about buying a third copy, how about you?

>>10688563
embarrassing seethe, really

>>10688503
>that you can't compare to the crap made today
What games have you played from the past 6 years?

>>10688571
i've tried to play all the recent tomb raider games and they were very boring and generic in comparrison

>>10688584
>i've tried to play all the recent tomb raider games
No wonder you think modern games are shit lol

>>10687471
>>10687479
>>10687845
You seem to really like that phrase eh? What do you mean when you say that? Or are you just hoping if you copy paste the same thing over and over it will catch on?

>>10688634
>What do you mean when you say that?
It means it's cheap, and that it's a cash grab.

BOOBA

The only cheap thing here is the quality of the shitposts

Why does a strong empowered woman like Lara make anons seethe so much?

>>10688647
I guess your phrasing makes little sense, it'sba product made to be sold so in thst sense it's a "cash grab" but in that case it's the same with every commercial game of the era. What about the game design bothers youn so much?

>>10687437
That depends. If people on here don't have anything damning to say about it, yes. I intend to go back and forth with the graphics too.

>>10688395
The percentage chance of me liking a game with a 90% aggregate reviewer score is higher than the chance of me liking a game with a 30% aggregate reviewer score.

>>10688856
Unironically for me not just with games, but movies, music, tv, books, almost anything that's like a coin flip for me. Most of the stuff that gets paraded around as best is straight up garbage.

>>10687628
I would throw in unreal tournament to that list

Quake/UT are some what interchangeable. Unreal engine literally powers probably 90% of all video games.

Epic did a piss poor job following that up.

>>10688570
Did you see the spookiness?

>>10687437

>>10689484
They couldn't help themselves, could they?

so let me get this straight, she can't crouch?

>>10689484
>>10689493
on the contrary, this is just camoflage against leftists
"oh woe is us, we were so bad back then! but we won't hide it; we must face it and learn from it!" *releases their original game and gets away with it*

based desu

>>10689534
she can in tr3

>>10687437
reminder

>>10687437
If they get rid of the clunky grid-based movement and give it modern controls, maybe. Classic TR aged horribly compared to other games from its time.

>>10688446
Nobody comes to 4chan for quality discussions. This site is all shitposting. Stop pretending it isn't.

Yes, I just waiting around for the release. I sure hope all the glitches and skips still work, I have forgotten to beat the games normally by now.

>>10689782
It wasn't always is the problem. But "people" like you showed up who basically think the entire point of the site is to troll all day.

>>10689782
I do. People like you are the problem.

>>10689775
l-lewd!

Fucking awesome though; will save a ton of time and frustration.

>>10689782
Fuck off

>>10689818
>stuttering online
XD

>>10689731
Warner and Paramount did that with Tom & Jerry and All of the Tex avery cartoons

>>10687760
She actually looks like a person now instead of a cybertruck

>>10689782
This wormy liitle shit fuck is the real problem here. All he wants is to stop any real discussion from happening. You can tell by the threads he targets and how he does it and his agenda is clear. Unironically going into more detail gets a ban.

>>10689820
no u

>>10689912
he is doing this shit at /v/ too, and it is always the good remaster threads

>>10689484
>incels will cry and piss and shit themselves because of a 1 second disclaimer that you can ignore
seems like a win.

Maybe, I kinda wanna see the reception to them first, I do like the new Lara model as it reminds me of the classic renders.

>>10690512
This is my take as well. It pleases me that it pisses idiots off so much.

>>10690512
>>10690540
Niggers

>>10689731
>just camouflage against leftists

It's published by Embracer, a bunch of faggots from Sweden who signed off the wokification and subsequent obliteration of Saints Row.

>>10687437
didnt this game already have a remaster on ps3/360?

>>10690632
it's funny how dead on arrival that game was.

>>10690641
no that was a reboot
Tomb Raider has:
A remaster
A remake
A reboot

What's with all the shit bait all of a sudden? Is Embrace paying money to tell people not to play their game? Reverse psychology?

>>10688364
>they gave new-lara a dump truck

I will now play your game.

>>10688960
Most of the video games and movies that get paraded around as the best I can see the merits for why that is. For music I have zero ability to recognize why a Beatles album is "better" than something like Plagues of Babylon by Iced Earth.

>>10689493
Crystal Dynamics forced them to add it to the SWITCH release. Not sure if the PC release will have it too.

>>10690896
Music is just far more personal, I'm not a huge fan of the Beatles but couldn't even make it half way through the song you just mentioned. Which is fine, I think that's how things ought to be, with enough creative differences to speak to many different kinds of people. The Beatles will probably always have a spot in best of lists for a long time despite their music not resonating as broadly as it used to.

>>10687437
no because its woke + censored

>>10690996
What is censored?

>>10689484
is this real?

>>10687437
Not even worth pirating when I can just play the originals. And I am CERTAINLY not going to give them money for a game they made more than two and a half decades ago. Make a new good Tomb Raider game if you want my money.

>>10691006
Nothing, they even put in that message to specifically tell you that they didn't change anything.

>>10691024
Not like there is much to change anyway, besides her pointy boobs and short shorts there is nothing sexual in Tomb Raider 1 to 4.

>>10691024

Has the model been ripped? Can it be imported into OpenLara?

>>10691035
Could've at least been pasties for plausible deniability.

>>10691035
noooo my single pixel nipples

I don't care either way about this remaster, but honestly I hate the aesthetic of remasters, that cleaned-up high-res emulator look

>>10690540
Fuck off leftist sjw trash

>>10691127
Retard

>>10687459
PS1 version has atrocious performance, single digits on big areas

>>10687437
Yep. Planning to buy it tomorrow evening.

>>10691458
He's right though

>>10691035
It's over..

>>10691476
Anon, just overclock the CPU to 150%

>>10691035
For those who never played TR1 before, this is the jacket of Pierre. It's one of things that was able to slip by the ESRB when they gave the game a T rating back then because almost everyone who encounters him never sees the back of his jacket. On top of the fact that its so heavily pixelated it's hard to tell especially on an old CRT. I can see why they added a bra.
https://youtu.be/tQUsc5oBugI
https://youtu.be/OccmHf1f5L4
Keep in mind they got rid of this jacket in Tomb Raider Chronicles in the cutscene he's in
https://youtu.be/NtLVB8hGN1s

>>10691450
lol at this meltdown post. does baby need a nap?

>>10691035
Probably done for ratings. Having a high def nude woman on the jacket probably would've gotten them an M rating. Besides, the original jacket as the original pic anyway, so moot point.

>>10691665
Seems like you do

>>10691035
Probably done for ratings. Having a high def nude woman on the jacket probably would've gotten them an M rating. Besides, the original jacket is used for the original graphics, so moot point.

>>10687437
Absolutely not. I will not support these faggots that are shitting on the original developers. See >>10689484

>>10687437
Not retro

Didn't TR1 already get remade in like the PS2 era?

>>10691835
TR Anniversary

>>10689484
>This game does not align with our values, please try not to enjoy it

>>10691904
Where does it say that?

>>10687760
Honestly the left doesnt look bad compared to the original. At least they made her look like she did in the magazines back in the day. Also, her tits look better.

>>10691835
this is a remaster not a remake shit for brains

>>10691914
Sure but they already did it once, why do it a second time?

>>10691127
>they didn't censor anything!
>ok they did, BUT

>>10688210
You can switch to the original graphics

>>10690632
That game could have been 0% woke and it still would've utterly failed becuase it was genuinely a shit game.

>>10691926
The original is still in the game, therefore it's not censored.

>>10690512
On products that are blatently bigoted, I can understand the disclaimer. What's so offensive about Tomb Raider?

>>10691924
they never did a remaster before

>>10691835
Yeah, that was the Anniversary game for Gen 6 and 7. But these are more so remasters since you can flip between old and new graphics.

>>10687437
I was thinking about it, but then decided no. I already own the originals on both ps1 and pc... plus the remastered graphics are kinda ugly in places and the devs made some choices that boggles my mind (parallax mapping instead of just fully modeling that Great Wall ladder, really?)

>>10687437
I've had a lot of doubts about this because it's Aspyr, but looking at the credits now reveals that they hired a lot of TR community artists and decomp guys to work on this, eg. the OpenLara guy was the technical lead, which is probably why it feels like the people involved with this actually gave a shit.
The disclaimer is offensive and retarded, but it looks like that's CD throwing Aspyr/Core under the bus. Hopefully it's easy to mod out.

>>10687547
this. i recently replayed them and they’re fine. i don’t care about improved textures

Not buying, fuck you Crystal Dynamics.

>>10692453
might as well apologize for infinite ammo pistols and a t-rex. holy shit, it’s just a game. fucking cucked sissies. burnng my tomb raider collection

>>10692453
You're late to the outrage party.

>>10692453
Modern world is so fucking gay. When will this end

>>10692465
>outrage party
Nah, I just have the perfectly playable originals that don't have outrage against what, a bitch with some big titties? Fuck outta here.

>itt: literal nintendo drones seething about game they never played and not plan to play

Also: Happy 56th birthday, Lara!

>>10692453
Wrong game, thou. >>>/v/ is that way to be mad at the modern ones. Or Crystal Dynamics

>>10692453
You're bent out of shape over a screen with text on it. Tell me you don't watch Tom and Jerry or Loony Tunes.

>>10692453
Btw this only shows up on the first boot up and is never shown again. You're a child. Finding anything little thing to be mad at I suppose.

>>10692580
Kys cuck

>>10692591
Kys cuck

>>10692453
Is this on every port? I'm pirating it anyway so doesn't really matter to me desu

>>10689484
Dropped. Fuck these SJW dick suckers.

>>10692580
You're replying to a screen with text on it.

>>10687437
I picked it up on Deck, it’s a good remake. You can switch to the original graphics in realtime.

>>10692591
It shouldn't be shown at all

>>10689779
>we want casual raider

>>10691931
So just play the original..?

>>10687845
I think he meant Tomb Raider mogs the fuck out of OOT in terms of design

>>10692690
report to us; have they changed the mechanics at all? story or dialogue? has it been casualized in any sense? does it play right?

>>10692453
>game literally has an OOGA BOOGA cannibal black guy
>just throw a quick disclaimer at splash screen to wash your hands from any potential online spergout
>faggots get offended by it existing
Literal white genocide, amirite.

>>10687437
Aren't these games complete dogshit compared to Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask?? Wasn't the whole TR franchise literally a Zelda rip-off, just for PC/Playstation???

Yes, I know the latest ones are Uncharted clones, but this only confirms my point that these games have no identity of their own.

>>10692918
>these games have no identity of their own
Lara's original design is one of the most successful character designs of all time.

>>10692919
>bimbo in booty shorts
wasn't this archetype a dime a dozen in the 90's

>>10692795
just close your eyes nigga

>>10692918
>Wasn't the whole TR franchise literally a Zelda rip-off, just for PC/Playstation???
Anon, are you just saying dumb shit for attention?

>>10692453
Not buying a game to get lectured by some woke faggot on whats problematic

>>10691690
>Besides, the original jacket is used for the original graphics, so moot point.

I honestly respect them for this.

>>10692917
>game literally has an OOGA BOOGA cannibal black guy

Why is that bad. Seriously. Tribes like that exist. Surely this shows how diverse people can be?

>>10692941
niggerfaggots > niggercannibals tbdesu

>>10692918
>Wasn't the whole TR franchise literally a Zelda rip-off, just for PC/Playstation???


No, Tomb Raider is 3D Prince of Persia and they replaced the sword with guns.

Not that you would seem to know what Prince of Persia is.

>>10692950
dude what Sands of Time came out WAY later, I guess you're just too young to know

>>10692918
>Aren't these games complete dogshit compared to Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask?

I'd say they're completely complimentary. Zelda has a far more open and interactive world (TLR's hubs aside) that is more compelling on the whole and allows for a lot more variety of possible things along with a lot more general polish, while TR's momentum based puzzle platforming and persistent danger of insta-death makes it's levels generally more interesting than Zelda's dungeons to figure out, because the basic problem of "how do I get from here to there" generally requires you to think about its level geometry more.

Both games (OoT and TR specifically) are in the top 10 most atmospheric ever made.

>>10692956
Absolute top kek, nice troll otherwise get the fuck off this board now

>>10692926
That doesn't look anything like Lara. Double pistols that outfit come on whole image is burned on everyone's mind.

I will now pirate the remaster. Fuck modern soi devs

>>10693020
GOG version is broken and saving doesn't work currently lmao, have fun poorfag

>>10693031
they just patched it

>>10692928
Then I can't see to play the game bruh

>>10689484
Why work on a project if it's so offensive that you can't handle it? I don't get this logic.

>>10692453
You can edit that you gigantic retard
is simply a text
>>>/v/667033880

>>10691127
kys shill

>>10692453
>>10690512

>>10692453
Lmao at all the asspained losers getting upset about this, as if disclaimers on media haven't existed for 100 years.

>>10693348
kill yourself jew

>>10693353
>noooooooo mommy help, the disclaimer is micro-aggressing me!!!

>>10693354
>look i'm a retarded faggot lmao look at me suck my own cock haha
alrighty then

Buying retro videogames? They are free bro

>>10692918
>average tendie vidya literacy

>>10692918
>Aren't these games complete dogshit compared to Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask??
Yeah, Tomb Raider was laughably bad.
>Wasn't the whole TR franchise literally a Zelda rip-off, just for PC/Playstation???
Nah, Tomb Raider came first.

>>10692818
>>>we want casual raider
Damn right. It'd be a massive improvement.

>>10693401
Yeah, Tomb Raider was laughably bad.
>

Is there any way to change the outfits?

>>10693852
I've been skimming the steam discussions and looks like you can't. This remaster is pretty bare bones since even the modern controls arent that great.

>>10687437
No, for it requires Win 10 to run it

>>10691913
Now that you say that.
I was already somewhat surprised that they didn't butcher her looks.
The model has the same strange knees as the old magazine renders had. Maybe they just made the render model work that they used for posing her in magazines.

>>10687437
I don't even want to play the original.

>>10693852
>>10693885
You can https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMU_yK31adU

>>10687437
Yes. Crystal Dynamics can kiss my ass if they/them don't want us to buy/play it.

>>10693715
Correct. Ocarina of Time is more mechanically engaging by the end of the 1st dungeon than Tomb Raider is at any point in the game.

>>10694045
wtf are you talking about

>>10694146
/pol/cels that never leave their basements are seething because the remasters have a disclaimer about racist characters in the original game. They didn't even censor anything and just put a notice in which is the best way to handle it.

>>10694158
wait I might have it backwards I don't know what the fuck >>10694045 is talking about sounds like he got reverse psychology'd into buying the game like a looney tunes character.

I don't care about Remastered until it comes out fixed on GOG. For now, I want to know about the best way to play the games right now. People have been saying OpenLara has been superseded by things like TR1X, tomb3, etc., but this TR1X project I tried doesn't seem to have some of the quality of life features I would have expected from a decomp like framerate options or mouse look. Why shouldn't I hop to OpenLara?

>>10694120
I'd have to disagree. While the mechanics in oot are nice, they lack actual enemies and obstacles that make the best of the mechanics. I will admit some items do get nice uses, like the different boots and hookshot. The targeting mechanics are great but it's so boring after the first few times fighting a Stalfos, then the last fight is so lackluster. Where as the first level of tomb raider is full on obstacle course with tons of stuff to flip off of and do maneuvers on. Tomb raiders puzzles are like oots puzzle for adults.

>>10693984
nice!

>>10687437
Best remasters i ever played

>>10694158
>>10694161
>anyone who likes these games are racist polcels
t.Triggered braindead they/them wokecels

>>10694170
>Tomb raiders puzzles are like oots puzzle for adults.
Then why could I do it just fine as a child? Honestly after playing through it again as an adult, the only part of the game I found challenging was the endless struggle with the dogshit controls and movement.

I wonder if I can run it on i3 UHD630.
Surely, right? But you never know with these memeasters.

>>10695023
>was the endless struggle with the dogshit controls and movement
Imagine roleplaying as a tough sob and you get filtered by tomb raider controls LMAO

>>10695191
>Imagine roleplaying as a tough sob
When did that happen? Are you having a psychotic episode?
>and you get filtered by tomb raider controls
I wrote in my post that I played through the game. Is this another hallucination or do you just lack reading ability?

fuck this western p.o.s.
don't ever compare this to zelda again

>>10695527
tendie seethe

>>10687437
No, I've yet to beat the originals.

>>10694158
>They didn't even censor anything and just put a notice in which is the best way to handle it
nta, but no.
The best way would be to do nothing. It's done to appease some imaginary outraged crowd, with in practice most likely translates into a few busybodies on Twitter.
I personally don't think that it's a big deal, though.
Whatever.

>>10692453
you can't even read it in the actual game.

Where are the nude mods?

>>10696617
nexus has one

>>10696636
Topless one and it just a texture mod not a real nude mod

>>10692453
how can i reopen this text? i edited it in the game files with a funny text but it doesnt show up anymore lmao

Wasn’t there supposed to be a remake of TR2 similar to Anniversary?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=py8A6QH6ksg

>>10696660
looks like another one of these projects where they tease you with a few minutes of gameplay and than you never hear from it again. many such cases

>>10696674
The creator clearly told from the start that it was never going to be fully made, just a demo

>>10694814
>anyone who likes these games are racist polcels
who are you quoting?
you're getting made fun of for seething over a disclaimer. no one ever said this insecure shit you're projecting.

>>10695810
>only a few people on twitter want to see problems acknowledged
see this is why you get called a basement dweller. go interact with the real world, you think you're surrounded by 4chan allies IRL but unless you live in kentucky most of the developed world does in fact think you're a raging edgelord and that problems need to be acknowledged.

>>10696731
there are no problems you stupid niggerfaggot.only some screeching twitter tranny thinks there are problems

>>10689484
>in the hopes that we may ackowledge its harmful impact and learn from it

so, it's not sure?

>>10687437
yes

>>10689484
I just start the game with -nolegal parameter

>>10691035
this is why mods exist

is it any good?

>>10691690
>Having a high def nude woman on the jacket probably would've gotten them an M rating
Why would it when plenty of movies get an pg13 rating for doing it, just look at Titanic and lots of other movies that get away with showing breasts in non sex scenes that avoid an R rating.

>>10696731
>problems acknowledged
What problems, specifically?
>unless you live in kentucky most of the developed world does in fact think you're a raging edgelord
We already have ESRB to get the general idea about spiciness of a content.
This disclaimer is redundant.
I do not know anyone who would've complained about not being warned that the game has some unexpected stuff in it.
> go interact with the real world
I would suggest you to do the same. In my experience, people of all ages and backgrounds are much tougher psycologically than you give them credit for.
> you're a raging edgelord and that problems need to be acknowledged
I may be a raging edgelord, but you're illiterate.
> I personally don't think that it's a big deal, though.
> Whatever.
Can you read? Does my ESL ass needs to provide some detailed explanation?

>>10689484
What are these harmful prejudices they speak of? These are the 90s, not the 30s given how they frame this.

>>10687471
i do

so is it any good?

how do the new controls play?

>>10697548
the new controls suck especially when swimming. i stay with tank controls

>>10697554
they make platform jumping hard?

>>10687479
>that thing you like WAS NEVER GOOD
>it was ALWAYS BAD
>NOW BUY PRODUCT
advertising or begging

>>10697560
when you keep holding the jump button she does no hold onto a ledge

>>10687637
This area doesn't look too bad but did they really have to change the colors so drastically?
>>10687650
New scene is too cluttered, lacks directional clarity. The new lighting generally looks worse for darker areas, as well as for areas that were dark before but were brightened up.
>>10688224
>they didn't bother porting the fancy Sega Saturn water distortion effect

>>10697548
Game is great, new controls are shit, but if you are playing with them in the first place, wtf is wrong with you

>>10695043
Only one way to find out. Pirate it (or purchase and then refund on Steam) and let us know.

>>10697608
been playing it since I had it on sega saturn back in 1997, new controls would be nice.amazing that there's people getting mad over tr 30years later lol.

>>10687498
>But I wonder if they implemented flares into 1 since the areas are a lot darker now.
No but it's never dark enough to where it's a problem

>>10697635
I don't get what is so hard about tank controls. They are piss easy and feel amazing in this game

>>10697663
been playing it since 1997,some alternative controls would be nice for a change

>>10697670
there are alternative controls you have modern controls now in the game, what else do you want?

>>10697682
the modern controls are based off the legend trilogy and they arent really made for the og games

>>10697682
a new classic tomb raider would be nice, in the style of tr1, deep caves, claustrophobia etc.

>>10697689
also more atlantis lore, tihocan and the rest were cool

>>10693887
Windows 7*

>>10692918
>smartest tendie on /vr/

>>10697251
MPAA and ESRB are different organizations and have different rating standards.

>>10697689
You have thousands of trle levels that are as good if not better than the classics, some of them are ful games. you even have something like sabatu's levels which are the classics but reimagined, there is no need for new tr classic games

https://trcustoms.org/
there ya go

>>10687437
Yeah I'm enjoying them.

>>10697687
they actually seem fine besides the camera glitching out for some reason. And maybe the combat but I haven't used it myself. It seems like you can do everything you need to do with them

>>10696731
>screeeeeeeeech
You're still seething? Alrighty then.

>>10697548
i switched back pretty fast.
you lose all the precision with it

Anyone knows what this bullshit trm 3d model file type is? I wanna make my kawaiporn 3d models into the game goddamit!

Pirated the GOG release and the game won't save for some reason. Seems like a good remaster if I could fix that.

No physical, no buy.

>>10697701
It doesn't run under Win7, I tested it.

>>10688224
what are zoomer control options ?

>>10687628
GTA exists bitchboy

>>10698168
>physical
It's a data distribution channel, not dissimilar from the, say, Ethernet.
Has nothing to do with an ownership model.

>>10689782

>>10691690
The collection already got an M rating.

>>10689782
>Nobody comes to 4chan for quality discussions
Why are you calling me a nobody out of the blue?
On the more serious note, shitposting is boring.

>>10689782
Spoken like a true redditor.

Which one of these had jailbait Lara? Someone post what she looks like now.

I just booted up the original on my PS3 which uses Sony's own PS1 emulator.

this game is hot garbage, seriously.

>>10698690
I didn't beat it back in the day, so I want to give it another try

>>10692453
White men are so fucking sensitive lmfao

>>10698882
>White men

>>10697624
I have done just that and can confirm it runs on iGPU so it's not some bloated shit
...
some nitpicks:
-can't get the camera to stay still (think it was already like that in the originals. stupid)
-skyboxes are kinda more generic
-same lara face across all 3 games

>>10698690
No you're just shit

>>10692926
>wasn't this archetype a dime a dozen in the 90's

I'm going to be honest with you here. That type of trope really wasn't a thing in the world of video games before Lara Croft made it a thing. Before 1996, it wasn't a trope at all. After Tomb Raider, you saw this rise in female protagonists in skimpy attire.

>>10688446
/v/ tier threads were inevitable ever since Gen 6 consoles were allowed on here couple of years back.
>>10689814
>It wasn't always is the problem.
Anon, you're talking about well over 15 years ago. There's a reason why /vr/ was created by moot after all, and it was because /v/ was complete shit for years before then back in 2013.

>>10698974

This is one of the oldest magazine previews I can find for the original Tomb Raider (on the Sega Saturn), it has really early beta screenshots and images from the early pre-rendered promotional videos. This preview is from November 1995.

>"First of all, have a look at Lara Cruz... is she hot or what? It's high time a stylin' babe like LC starred in a video game, don't ya think?"

Lara was Lara Cruz in the earliest builds. But back in mid 1995, an editor from a game magazine made this comment, because you didn't see female protagonists like Lara in games, outside of the odd Japanese title and 2D fighting games. Early 90's was really flooded with Sonic inspired characters. I feel like Lara Croft set the trend for the later half of the 90's. I would even say that Lara was one of the most influential 90's game characters.

>>10698962
if you draw a diagonal line that separates the lower left from the upper right, the upper right looks better on the new version, whereas the bottom left is far superior on the old version

>>10699175
I had to mathematize that one

I've played a bit of it now. It's way too dark. You can't see shit

>>10699214
God I wish that was me

>>10698962
ARGHHH WHY DID THEY EVEN BOTHER?
The original clearly looks so much cooler. Even the effects are ruined like the water waves and rippling lights. :(
>>10698915 >>10698882
Huh?

>>10689484
Fact that this made chuds have a meltdown seething is highly appreciated

wish they included sega saturn mode, downscaling, blurry wrapping textures and dimly lit envs is the way to go

>>10687485
>m-m-muh nintendo!
Absolutely mindbroken.

>>10689484
Anyone asking why this is there and what it could be referring to is just exposing themselves as a newfag.

>>10698882
>>>/b/

>>10699793
>Absolutely mindbroken.
but enough about you

they hired this man

>>10687459
>>10691476
>Not playing the original PC versions

>>10687479
>Most of them had dev teams that were even smaller than indie games have
The difference is that the talent of today's indie studios is way lesser than the talents from back then + Japs worked 16 hours a day and pulled all-nighters

Even today I'm sure that there are indie studios that are bigger than say Studio MDHR but the staff is far less skilled

>>10690889
They did that to appeal to niggers and to reduce make her tits look smaller = not based

>>10698882
Stop playing then? Who cares?

>>10697057
The logo is still wrong
The original looked like a swastika

>>10700528
Less skilled by what metric? Do you have some kind of meme game design "degree" or something?

>>10700541
Less skilled in terms of game design, art, music etc.

The developers who made Street Fighter 2 and Metal Slug were the AAA of their time, the cream of the crop of the industry

Also even indie devs of the 1990s like Looking Glass Studios shit on 99.9999999% of indie devs today

>>10700560
>Less skilled in terms of game design, art, music etc.
LOL

>>10700567
t. zoomie retard
Even FF4 has better graphics than Tumblrtale
Indie games will always be tumblr garbage

>>10700573
You are too stupid to be real.

>>10698468
What the fuck are you on about? I want a disk

>>10699793 >>10700169
>But enough about me let's kill youuu
>>10700560
They are not less skilled - or rather, they're not less capable of learning to be skilled. It is the world around us growing ever faster that prevents professionals from honing their craft. Competency is learned, not bred, with exceptions for retards and savants. And we know that most great games didn't have savants on their teams.
>>10700573
Oh, it was bate. <:'D

>>10692453
Oh no, not the big dumb cartoon thugs have goofy accents!? Ahhh, witch doctors in loin clothes, I'm losing my mind!!!

I hope they remaster Revelations so I can get a hi-res college coed Lara in pigtails (and subsequent rule34). This is more important than playing the game.

>>10689782
they don't think it be like it is but it do

>>10701010
> They are not less skilled - or rather, they're not less capable of learning to be skilled. It is the world around us growing ever faster that prevents professionals from honing their craf
Well they’ve had 25 years to demonstrate some evidence of this and there’s precious little of it to me. I genuinely WISH I had standards as low as yours so I wouldn’t be perpetually disappointed at the state of the industry.

>>10700667
theyve already admitted they think 4chan is just for shitposting

>>10692453
>doesn't align with our values
>we'll take your money and sell you it anyway
you want an award or something?

>>10700179
moon emoji lookin ass in the original

>>10701148
>res college coed Lara in pigtails (and subsequent rule34)
Wouldn't it be easier just to commission?

>>10692453
I'm buying the Steam version and removing this warning label. too ban 4chan does the same shit when they ban or warn you for breaking a "rule" only pedos censor.

>start up game, my lip quivering
>slam my hand repeatedly on the desk as start Lara's Home
>slam my cheeto-stained fingers on the keyboard, which is stained in vomit
>it takes twenty minutes to do it, but I make Lara roll mid-air and enter photo mode
>screenshot
>open 4chan, the stink of my mother's long-dead corpse hanging from the living room tingles my nostrils
>upload the screenshot
Y... you... you di- didn't b-b-b-eat the g-g-game...
>fill the captcha, hit submit
>the adrenaline rush from trolling is too much for me, my computer chair collapses
>on the floor, shooting pain in my chest
>i am sucked into the abyss as my heart gives out

>>10687459
The remasters use the PS1 versions as a base...so...

>>10702525
No, they use the PC version. Hence the absence of save crystals.

>>10702532
I BET YOU FEEL STUPID NOW

>tank controls are kinda ok except i move backwards alot and swimming surprisingly fine
>modern controls are fine except theres no backjump and side jump and swimming is ass

Seriously whats up with the swimming?

>>10697354
It really pissed me off in 1993 when the coloreds drank from my water fountain.

So new textures look awful. I'm guessing we won't get a Nightdive like remaster any time soon.
For tank controls with original textures, is it the best way to play those games? Or is there a better source port?

>>10703081
night dive remasters are awful KEX engine ports
ss1:ee is STILL broken to this day

>>10703127
I liked their Quake and Turok remasters. They have done a good job on textures in Quake 2 and Turok 3. Tomb Raider has AI textures that they didn't even bothered tiling correctly. Maybe we would get extra outfits or things like that? They would've at least added something extra. Some outfit screen? Something about mansion? Tomb Raider is asking for it. Modern controls don't even work from what I understand. Which isn't that big of a deal for me, nevertheless.

>>10694169
Is OpenLara currently the best way to play the original 3 games on PC?

>>10703185
I haven't tried it out yet other than through the website since I've had trouble getting it installed on Linux, but I would guess so.

OpenLara is a game engine, so it has a ton of graphics options, multiple players, and quality of life enhancements and I think games 1=4 work on it. TR1X is a decomp, so the game still runs at 30fps and is basically vanilla. It has some additional things like command line input, but it's much more limited than the other. As far as the remaster goes, it is actually pretty decent with the old graphics and it seems to add a midair flip to make changing directions more convenient.

>>10703127
What's broken about it? I was gonna use that as my primary way to play it :(

>>10703185
No, tomb1main is

I can't believe no one is able to edit her 3d model yet

>>10702532
No, they don't.

>uses colored water
>has foot print effects
>doesn't have texture filtering
>locked at 30FPS

There's also some other small console-exclusive features they have that I can't remember right now.

>>10697603
But can Saturn make all of polys wobble like PSX, I think not.

>>10703013
It pisses me off when they drink from the water fountains today

>>10697251
1. MPAA is not the ESRB
2. Titanic is for women so the ratings board is more lenient

>>10692019
Boomers said the same thing 30 years ago when those warnings started being put on old cartoons.
>I can understand why minstrel shows and other types of blackface don't exist anymore, but what's so offensive about Bugs Bunny playing pranks on the Imperial Japanese or Mammy in Tom and Jerry?
It's now our generation's turn to become the "out-of-step old farts". Have fun!

>>10704275
No, but really, what aspects are supposed to be offensive about Tomb Raider?

>>10704282
They have the stereotypical ooga-booga jungle cannibals that still exist even today but it's racist to acknowledge it

>>10687617
If i cared about the framerate i wouldn't play retro games

>>10704287
That's it? You'll find some really primitive and embarrassing shit if you go look around here and there in Appalachia too. Or for that matter places like rural Russia, India, and China, or Brazilian favelas.

Shit, black tribals in parts of Africa can be argued to be more flattering in a sense if you consider that many of them are just living the same hunter-gatherer lifestyle that people used to a hundred thousand years back, rather than being drug addicts or alcoholics living on gov't gibs.
Sure, they're literal spearchuckers who are eons behind even developing poorfag countries, but frequently they're actually fucking self-sufficient. You wanna see blacks being REALLY fucking embarrassing then look at Zimbabwe instead, THAT's something to be ashamed of.

I can't fucking deal with this modern liberal mindset. Oh no, someone might get the idea that black tribals may still exist in a few parts of the world, that's so dangerous and hurtful!

>>10704326
bro, theres no reasoning with these people
you either kill them or ignore them
they're mentally ill

>>10704326
You can say the exact same thing about how blacks are depicted in old cartoons like Song of the South. That's an accurate depiction of how southern blacks acted in the 19th century, but you can't acknowledge that there was ever a time when they instinctively stepped off the sidewalk when a white person was coming in the opposite direction.

>>10704336
Nix that. A better example is Coal Black n da Sebben Dwarfs. A comedic depiction of black culture of the 1940s, rooted very much in reality. But the cartoon has been locked in a vault since the 1970s because showing blacks as enjoying jazz and fancy clothes and pretty girls is "racist".

>>10704275
>Boomers said the same thing 30 years ago when those warnings started being put on old cartoons.
They actually started censorship of older cartoons with blackface and what not way back in the 1960's like with Tom and Jerry shorts. In fact they outright replaced the mammy character with a teenage white girl in many of them back then.

>>10692019
I can't understand the disclaimer that well. Is it to just cover their asses in case someone complains and/or faces them with some kind of legal action?
Because if a rational modern person sees a "blatently bigoted" scene in the media they are consuming they instantly know that it's wrong. They don't need a few seconds of text on their screen at the start to remind them of that.
Meanwhile bigoted people who won't see an issue with the "blatently bigoted" scene and might actually even enjoy it or yearn to go back the old days aren't going to be dissuaded by those words on the screen.
I guess it could be argued for people that sit in the middle that might not know about the state of the scene bigottedness?

>>10704395
That was bullshit back then too, Mammy Two-Shoes was just more soulful.

>>10702547
Nice cubemap, dummy. That doesn't look anything like the room it's floating in.

>>10704489
>>10704395
>mfw later Tom & Jerry cartoons replace Mammy Two-Shoes with a white lady named Ms. Two-Shoes
They shoulda just made her a black lady without the mammy stereotype if they're actually gonna have her, rather than the weird halfassing.

>>10693152
>Why work on a project
They didn't. Aspyr made the remaster, Crystal Dynamics just hastily slapped this screen on it before release.
You can tell it was hastily done because it's just a black screen with plain text that isn't even localized to languages other than English.

>>10704046
>No, they don't.

It actually has been confirmed by the developers at Saber Interactive that Aspyr games gave them access to the Mac source codes, and these are actually based on the original Aspyr Mac releases from the late 90's

https://www.eurogamer.net/tomb-raider-super-fan-reveals-they-were-behind-trilogy-remaster
> Along with Saber, XProger also thanked Aspyr for access to its Mac ports' source code. "You are great pros," XProger wrote. Last but by no means least, XProger thanked the games' original developers and community. "We eagerly read ALL your comments, interviews, reviews and reactions. The responsibility to all of you was higher than the fear of deadlines and the insane amount of work."

The Mac source codes were derived from the DOS/ Windows PC source codes. These versions have a few odd quirks to them because of that. But they are probably the closest that the devs could get to obtaining anything that resembled the original source codes.

>>10704506
Nah the crystals are in NG+ which has been retooled into a legit hard mode. Not sure what the texture is but yeah it looks pretty bleh.

>>10704275
>Mammy in Tom and Jerry?
Yes, a single black woman who owns a lovely two-storey home in the suburbs (with attic and basement), has a social life that includes a bridge club, is not subserviant to a white man, and owns lots of expensive goods like a huge refridgerator (in the 40s at that), a piano, record player, and a fuckload of jewelry, voiced by a black woman who of course had a black accent, and is never seem delving into stereotypes of the era.

So offensive.

>>10704395
>>10704489
>>10704513
Funfact: Mammy's VA was one of if not the first black voice actresses

>>10704549
She was the housemaid

>>10704565
She was called the maid in the original script but nothing in the series shows that she was a maid. Even if she was a maid for the larger houses she was still making bank.

>>10704549
More or less. I'm think she was implied to be a maid in the earliest cartoons, but that eventually faded and it seems like she owns the house in most of her appearances.

>>10704573
Bling like this isn't free, after all.

>>10704565
Is that true? I feel like there must have been a few earlier than for Tom & Jerry.

>>10704326
Being as Devil's Advocate as I can
>Ching-chong chinaman monk in TR2
>Oooga-booga cannibal in TR3
>Both the above clearly voiced by white game devs putting on a voice
>Stereotypical Geordie too lazy to actually help Lara in TR3, despite promising to
>Stereotypical soup-guzzling Sctosman shoots at Lara instead of paying her, and then turns himself into a giant spider just like Robert the Bruce
>Otherkin will be disappointed to find Nessie isn't real in Lara's world
>In TR1 Peru is depicted as a series of caves and outdoor areas without a sky, when in fact Peru had a sky installed by UN aid workers in 1987
>TR2 depicts Venice without its unique cultural heritage, i.e. swimming in the canal doesn't make Lara immediately shit out her own pelvis
>Tony in TR3 is a Californian academic, but in all 1:06 of dialogue he has, he never once confirms that his degree is in Gender Studies (in violation of Californian law)
>"Quadbike" makes no sense, as it means "four two cycle" and mixes Latin and Greek roots. The proper British terminology is a vroomy-zoomy-fall-and-go-boomy
>Oil rig workers and British Museum employees are shown to be sexually interested in Lara: a clear example of homosexual erasure
>In a reverse example, an Australian special forces soldier meets Lara (a civilian) and does not immediately murder and then rape her to get his squadmates' approval. The fact that he is depicted with a severed leg would not stop him in real life, and shouldn't be implied as an obstacle to his natural rapist urges here.
>WW2 propaganda is visible on the walls of Alwych station in TR3, implying a stance on who should have won WW2
>American security forces in TR3 refer to Lara as an "ecoterrorist" despite her colossal carbon footprint and genocidal approach to wildlife
>The population of Antarctica is not depicted as diverse

>>10704870
kekked twice

>>10704870
underrated

>>10704870
Solid work

Been having fun. Their attempt at "Modern controls" feels like they didn't do enough for it to work with the game, and overall manages to be clunkier as a result. Tank controls may be seen as a relic of the past by some people, but at least it has a logic to it that makes perfect sense once you're into the groove of it, so I've been sticking to that.

>>10691914
It still boggles my mind why people confuse the two terms in the realm of video games, yet in movies and music, everyone understands that a remaster is in fact not a remake.

>>10701148
Hotdamn I need to play TR4.

>>10687437

Couldn't figure out the controls :/ Way too dated. Gorgeous looking in every other aspect and switching back and forth seamlessly is very cool. I played them when I was like 8 or 9 so I just can't go back unfortunately. Third-person adventure games have become so much better since Tomb Raider came out. The modern controls were also very difficult too, so maybe I'll check out those open source fan projects (they look a lot better).

>>10687437
NOOOOOOOO!

>>10706593
You really do either way. It's something unique at least, it's a very full on game that tries to pull off everything it can.

Interesting thing about this port is that it dynamically changes aspect ration to conform to whatever display the game is running on. So, it goes to 4:3 with a 4:3 display.

>>10707462
Typically, I run this game using a 21:9 monitor, and the game uses it correctly. Photo mode is one of my favorite features in this. But I think the remaster is solid so far. Despite some criticism on the HD art assets.

>>10707462

Photomode screenshot while using a VGA 1280*1024 resolution monitor with the OG graphics.

>>10707465
side view of same moment in time. Using photo mode.

>>10707465

I even took a screengrab of Pierre shooting up at me from below. You can rotate the camera.

>>10707478
what a prettyboy

>>10704341
How many men of all races don't enjoy jazz, pretty girls, and fancy clothes? *I* want to see that cartoon!

>>10707490
>what a prettyboy

And here's his censored jacket. The original texture, she had no bikini top on.

>>10707496

>>10707465
>>10707468
>>10707471
>>10707478
>>10707496
>>10707502

I am running this on a pretty shitty i5 machine with a Geforce 660 3GB card on Linux using proton. It does indeed 'just works' with no hicups.