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I plan on switching from standalones to retroarch for the shaders, any downsides?

>> No.10700513

>>10700505
yeah, shaders are dumb

>> No.10700514

>>10700505
Accuracy. That's it.

>> No.10700523

>>10700514
shouldn't cores be as accurate as their standalone?

>> No.10700525

There are some cases that aren't worthy (mostly PS2 and GC)

>> No.10700527

>>10700505
Only plays half the games instead of 90% like the other ones

less accuracy for consoles after ps1

>> No.10700534

>>10700505
One question: do you just not like actually playing video games? Be honest.

>> No.10700576

>>10700523
RA cores are often out of date from the main branch, but generally yes.

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>>10700534

>> No.10700606

The main downside is the amount of seethe from terminally online faggots.

>> No.10700621

>>10700606
Hi Danny!

>> No.10700657

>>10700505
which standalones?

>> No.10700798

>>10700657
bsnes, mesen, and ares

>> No.10700813

>>10700505
Just the initial setup, as long as you use a controller over M+KB it's fine
Also I recommend using launchbox to organise all the roms

>> No.10700869

>>10700505
The only downside is that you’ll be less gay.

>> No.10701129
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10701129

>>10700869
less gay?

>> No.10701137

>>10700505
use reshade

>> No.10701161

>>10701137
>reshade
lol, LMAO

>> No.10701172

>>10701161
ok, use retroarch, I don't care abour your dilation

>> No.10701175

>>10700505
some cores will be older, but not any cores you'll use

the interface is a little different from most desktop apps, so it's hated by ABDLs with less nueroplasticity than your grampie

>> No.10701179

>>10701175
Beetle should be fine for PS1 right? Ik Duckstation is better but love shaders

>> No.10701259

>>10700505
Make sure to get achivements for retroarch

>> No.10701526

too bloated

>> No.10701536

>>10701259
>achievements
Not retro.

>> No.10701548

>>10701526
Not really

>> No.10701598

>>10700505
https://github.com/libretro/RetroArch/issues/16232
Bugs.

>> No.10701646

>>10700581
Well, you see, I do still like playing games. Which is why I use retroarch for some things, stand-alones for others, and real hardware for rare cases when emulation isn’t going to cut it. OP’s all-or-nothing approach is just childish - use whatever let’s you play the game best in your personal view.

>> No.10702095

>>10701179

Just use Swanstation, it's basically Duck and it has runahead in the core options.

>> No.10702251

>>10700505
>this thread again
How sad.

>> No.10702270
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10702270

>>10701137
nigger, i am literally using reshade with brightness filter in sea dogs 2 because game is too dark to see at night

>> No.10702272

>>10702270
meant for him>>10701161

>> No.10703056

The only downside is you'll never be able to stomach shitty, laggy, barebones emulators again

Reminder there is NO alternative for the features and customization of RetroArch, and you WILL be missing out if you get filtered and can't figure it out (you only need to learn it once; RetroArch is same across all devices/OS).

People use RetroArch for:
>the ability to save unique bindings/core settings/video settings/shaders for each core/game; literally anything at all you can change in RetroArch, you can save on a per-game basis
>better audio/video sync, input latency, and audio latency than standalone emulators
>huge selection of shaders and filters, and the ability to tweak all parameters of these shaders
>lossless recording at exact resolution and refresh-rate for every core/game (vastly superior to OBS); also input recording implemented for every single core
>rollback netplay for worldwide co-op or PvP games
>cores that are up-to-date with standalone and you can update all of your cores with a single click
>some cores that are only on RetroArch or are more up-to-date on RetroArch
>dozens of hotkeys that you can bind however you want and remain consistent for each game/core (or you can have unique hotkeys just for one game/core)
>VRR, BFI, and sync to exact framerate (to play games at the exact framerate of a game, e.g 54fps for Raiden FJ, or 61.68fps for TGM)
>top-notch CRT support with CRT Switchres
>1000 save states for every game with screenshot previews and undo save state/undo load state
>MAME core has save state support, rewind, & run-ahead for ALL games, even those with no save state support in MAME standalone
>RetroAchievements support
>UI and settings layout is consistent for every core so you don't have to learn dozens of different standalone UI layouts
There is no reason to use anything else for Gen 5 or earlier (plus GBA, DS, and Dreamcast).

>> No.10703063

>>10700527
What the fuck are you even talking about retard? Even for the literal ALPHA cores, compatibility is way over 90%.

>>10700576
False, almost all of them are just a few weeks behind standalone, except for ALPHA cores which are more outdated and lacking features.

>> No.10703064

>>10700505
No, just don't fuck with settings that you don't understand.
>>10700523
They actually are, don't listen to the retards complaining about "out of date" cores when they're the ones still using Kega Fusion and ZSNES, like this faggot>>10700527

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>>10703056
how much do they pay you guys?

>> No.10703083

>>10703063
>all of them are just a few weeks behind standalone
glad we're in agreement.

>> No.10703193

>>10703083
Just how often do you think these emulators are pushing out updates retard? The cores automatically update and get the updates usually within a week or so of standalone max

>> No.10703229

>>10700505
Do you use emulators to play games or to ruin games with shitass retard CRT grids? Get fucked.

>> No.10703239

>>10700505
controller mapping is a bitch
some cores don't work so well as the standalones (VICE, I'm looking at you)

>> No.10703248

>>10703056
>>the ability to save unique bindings/core settings/video settings/shaders for each core/game; literally anything at all you can change in RetroArch, you can save on a per-game basis
Forgot to say this save isn't automatic and is four menus deep.

>> No.10703269

>>10703248
Pretty sure you can adjust this in settings, but only takes about 5 seconds and you only have to do it once

>> No.10703271

>>10703269
Once I'm done reciting the ritual magics required to do so

>> No.10703296

>>10703193
I don't actually care tbqhfam
>>10703248
Four menus is generous

>> No.10703323

>>10701175
why do some people get defensive and use personal attacks if you say retroarch doesn't have the best interface

>> No.10703371

>>10702270
Sure, because brightness is basic as fuck

>> No.10704138

>>10701598
Reading this gave me both Linux PTSD and RetroArch PTSD

>> No.10704264

>>10703371
so? what's wrong then with using reshade? what you suggesting to use instead, fucking gshade?
retroarch is too bloated, period. if i run game through retroarch it gonna tank my resources that i coulda been using for reshade instead

>> No.10704267

>>10704264
All you did was change brightness dude
something you can do on your monitor
Using reshade for any type of shader is shit

>> No.10704273

>>10704267
>something you can do on your monitor
i have reasons to specifically not do it. excessive brightness on otherwise only couple games that by design too dark like doom 64 or sea dogs, may lead to monitor burning in at the edges. i had old tv that always had brightness and backlight maxed, eventually edges of the screen burned on it

>> No.10704320

>>10700505
The thing about RetroArch that annoys the shit out of me is it's controller support. It detects my replica NES and SNES controllers as being Sega Genesis/Saturn controllers and fucks up the mapping. It's not even possible to fix the mapping for my NES replica controller because for some stupid fucking reason it's not possible to delete a controller button mapping. You can only override it with a different mapping. So it has my A and B buttons mapped to the X and Y which are used for turbo, and there is no way for me to clear that without manually modifying some XML file. However, messing with this interferes with the mapping for my Sega Genesis replica controller, so now I have to rebind the controls every time I switch controllers. It's a fucking mess.
It also fucks up the mapping for my N64 replica controller, but at least it detects it as an N64 controller. It just fucks up the C button mappings.

>> No.10704359

>>10700505
Retroarch is great. The menus are pretty daunting at first but once you learn it it's actually pretty intuitive. The cores are good and there's usually multiple options for each system if theres a specific emulator you like more over another like weirdos on here do. Even if the emulation did suck(it doesn't) its incredibly convenient to have a nearly all in one emulation solution with unified settings and layouts. I have fullsets for every system it supports and its cool to have them automatically sorted into playlists by system and with box art when available.

As for shaders, my personal favorite currently is this one: https://youtu.be/VghduLw79-E?si=SMb_Tqo5Afe1WrVz

You need a 4K HDR screen to get anything out of them but they're the best Ive seen.

>> No.10705591

>>10700505
>any downsides?
yeah, your sanity

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10705609

>>10700505
>any downsides?
None.

>> No.10705624

>>10704267
If you don’t know how to use it then just say so. Reshade is phenomenal for dosbox and ‘90s windows games

>> No.10705639

>>10700505
retroarch menus are a disaster with menus inside menus, and some things only exists in some sections because they did in the past, so it feels really bloated and saving certain settings per game/system can be awkward.

every game having the same options/shortcuts is great though, so pretty much every system older than ps2/gc/xbox can replaced with retroarch, outside of some very old japanese pc systems.
also most people are tech illiterate now so it gets a lot of hate from retards.

>> No.10706881

>>10705624
Lol
I know how to use it
it's just crap compared to RA's offering
it's main issue is scaling

>> No.10707023

>>10703056
Yet all the games in the MAME core run at 60Hz...

>> No.10707032

>>10700505
>downsides?
other than using the literal worst and dumbest ugliest software known demand besides MAME itself?
not really

someone tell them to learn design language& to update their ancient cores

>> No.10707037

>>10707023
>MAME core
lol
>MAME
LMAO, what a shitshow that crap is

>> No.10707054

>>10707032
You know I hear a lot of people say this and then I also hear a lot of people saying that the PS3 has the best OS on console

>> No.10707235

Retroarch's cores aren't always the best ones, especially 6th gen emulator cores, even the Dreamcast emulator is wonky compared to Redream.

>> No.10707271

>>10707235
>Redream
lmao

>> No.10707278

>>10707235
>even the Dreamcast emulator is wonky compared to Redream
LMAO, that has dogshit audio emulation

>> No.10707362

>>10700505
I have Retroarch rewards turned on. Retroarch News, Retroarch notifications, and Retroarch main menu sponsored images, all with Retroarch ads, are activated. I'm really enjoying the RTRO tokens that I'm collecting. Being Retro isn't just a way of life, it's also allowed me to be apart of a new paradigm shift for retro gaming. Without Retroarch, I would be preyed upon and defenseless. I now understand what being Retro truly means.

>> No.10707440

>>10700505
As long as you stick to your basic old systems to emulate, you should be fine. Newer consoles and 99% of computers? You'll need or want standalones for those. You should only use very basic bitch controllers that everyone has or it'll be jank as fuck unless you are lucky.

>> No.10707535

>>10707362
kek

>> No.10707747
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>>10700505
It can be a pain if you have multiple controllers with multiple layouts, the cores for anything in 5th or 6th generation performs worse than its standalone versions and often won't even run if you have weaker hardware, and the UI can be a bit stiff and confusing at first, other than that I still think it's perfect for emulating up until PS1, having it all in one place with the XMB UI is nice.

Also, the shaders really are the highlight, just it having so many, so easy to use and having it in all of your emulators/cores if you want, or having a specific one for each console, it's just so good.

>> No.10709176

>>10707235
>Retroarch's cores aren't always the best ones
Wrong >>10703063
>especially 6th gen emulator cores
Everyone and their mom knows this. It's for 5th and older (except GBA)
>the Dreamcast emulator is wonky compared to Redream
LMAO

>> No.10709697

>>10700505
The UI is shit and I dislike it.