/vr/ - Retro Games

>touch controls

>>1068414
yeah, anything requiring timing is going to be tough.

Ive been playing Mario RPG on my phone and its great.

>>1068420
I was wondering if cutting up a screen protector into a d pad and the buttons would help with that? I might try that out tonight.

>>1068420
it works fine for RPGs and stuff
I played chrono trigger and FF4 on my phone recently. It was fun.

>>1068431
whoa. good idea

I found the biggest issue more than anything was holding down multiple buttons. It's harder to do something like hold B to run and press A at the same time and hold right on the D pad while holding the phone at an angle so that you can see and your fingers don't cover a majority of the screen. That and some touch screens don't handle being touched in three different places very well.

But then, I have an old phone. I think most people here recommend getting one of those controller docks.

Touch controls are okay for turn-based RPGs, but if I was going to play anything else I'd get one of those fancy bluetooth controllers.

You can always order a bluetooth controller.

>>1068506
I wouldn't use something like that in public. I thought about getting one for home, but would just use a tv then.

Anyone have experience with one of those?

OH BOY TOUCH RETRO THREAD

I play my touch retro portrait style. It mimics an original game boy (or gba sp) so my fingers don't get in the way.

As for pressing two buttons, it really depends on the emulator. If you have a good one, you start to get used to doing a quick slide from B over to A to do that kind of shit. If you have a bad one, you're fucked.

I really like that screen protector D-Pad idea. I'll have to try it. It's better than my idea of duct-taping a wii remote to the side of my Otterbox.

If you have a wii remote, I'd use it over buying a Bluetooth gamepad that you probably will never use for anything else.

>>1068519
I use one of those Ipega myself. It's cheap and does it's purpose well. It's kind of comfy when you're not mounting the device but if you're mounting it then it might be a little annoying depending on your phone.

It's a good cheap solution. If you want a better one you might as well wait until the iControlPad 2 comes out. Still, if you wouldn't use one in public then it's kind of pointless.

>>1068414
What emulator are you using? The Famicom controller skin is awesome.

>>1068506
Which is my plan so far but I haven't really gotten around to getting one yet. Tried using touchscreen controls for a gameboy emulator once and they were complete shit. I have to feel the buttons getting pressed.

>>1068540
i just took it from google, but i think it's from the super gnes from the play store.

IMO touch controls are garbage. Only turn-based RPGs and other such games that don't require any manner of fast and precise inputs work on them, and even then I'd still stay away.

Thankfully, I found a way to hook up my old Sixaxis to my phone, so I have proper controls now. All I'm missing now is some kind of stand to prop the phone up so I don't have to stare down at my phone flat on the table.

>>1068575
Invest in a pocket-sized wood block or hardcover book. If you have money, go for an Otterbox if they've made one for your phone.

>>1068581
I was thinking one of these things would work nicely. Kinda ghetto, I know, but whatever.

turn based games only

even very easy action games like kirby would be frustrating because the controls wouldnt be as responsive, you might still be able to win at it but it wouldnt be very enjoyable

even than I dont think I'd ever play a jrpg on a cellphone. part of the fun of those games is playing them on a large screen and admiring the great pixel art

It's like trying to hammer a nail when the handle has been replaced by a bit of string.

>>1068575
what is the point of even playing on your phone if you use a controller? do you travel around with a ps3 controller?

>>1068414
I got a moga for my phone, if you don't mind carrying the damn thing around it's actually really responsive.

>>1068506
I must be retarded or something, I can't get those to work with my phone.

>>1068686
I'll try helping.
Which phone are you using? What emulator are you trying to use?

>>1068687
Was trying to use Retroarch and the iPega controller that was posted. Not sure what type of phone exactly since I wasn't there when it was purchased. It's and LG and it has a pretty large screen.

I miss my Xperia Play. ;_;

>>1068702
Well, did you read the instructions bundled with it? Some of the ipega modes don't support different phones. (see: anything besides an Iphone) so you have to switch it up.
If I recall right it's the home button+ one of the face buttons. Play around with it and eventually you could enter it into keyboard mode. After that just enter Retroarch settings and configure the keys.

>>1068708
How do I configure the keys? Wouldn't let me change anything from NONE.

>>1068710
Did you remember to turn on bluetooth and pair the devices?

>>1068713
Yes, it's paired and all that, but if I go down to try and configure the keys it just stays on NONE.

Do I have to have touch controls disabled or something?

>>1068714
No that shouldn't be it.
I should have probably mentioned it but you need to hold the home button + one of the face button. Simply clicking won't do it. It would probably unpair the device to switch mode.
Like, just play around with it until the device you're trying to pair is a keyboard.

>>1068714
When I used a wii controller on my tablet, It did the same exact thing

I had to go into my bluetooth settings and change the "keyboard" input settings

>>1068721
How did you do that? Can't seem to figure out how to do it on my phone, been trying since you mentioned it but I can't see anything.

>>1068789
I do believe I figured out my problem.

When going through the input options on Retroarch, after scrolling past what I needed to select (iPega 9017 mode 2), it DELETED IT from the fucking menu. So if I missed it while scrolling the first time, it would activate it for the MENUS but nothing else, and would then not allow me to select it for the game. However, stopping on it (which is very hard because the touch screen often detects two taps instead of one) will actually allow me to use it for any emulator except GBANext for some reason because it doesn't assign a button to the A button.

Woo.

>>1068826
And after posting this, my A button stopped working in every other emulator as well. So yeah.

I know it's not the controller, because I downloaded another emulator and the A button worked with that, but the music for the game I was playing wouldn't play, and fuck that too.

I kind of think certain consoles work better with touch controls than others.
I was able to beat Aria of Sorrow and GBA Kirby games without much problems, while anything NES/SNES just feels horrible to play.

I've been playing quiet a few on my xperia play, I just finished a gba castlevania game the other day.

>>1068414
Metroid Fusion is unplayable with these controls. Try to hit the parasite eye (the one that shoots fireballs at you) with a missile while standing on a ladder.

I used to have an N64 emulator on an old(ish) Android a few years back, and nothing ran smoothly except for Super Mario 64. The controls were easy to get used to, but I ended up with over 15 stars or so.

I tried more greats like Goldeneye 007 and WWF No Mercy. No go and no thanks.

>>1068957
>Super Metroid walljumping on touch controls

>>1070213
>bluetooth controller
>usb gamepad using a male-to female usb cable
>usb keyboard
>mapped buttons on a jxd tablet or sony ericsson
These are all things you can use instead of touchscreen. Retroarch for android runs pretty well, even on like 3+ year old android devices.

>>1070213

I play Super Metroid on my phone for 10 min at a time when I have nothing to do on break at work and I haven't had a problem walljumping, even for minor sequence breaks/specific things like getting the Spazer before space jump

>>1068414
I think it's absolutely fucking disgusting and if I ever see someone actually trying to play Rayforce on a goddamn phone I might not be able to resist the urge to punch them in the face. Fuck you Taito, port it to a real handheld.

>>1068443
Probably not, since different emulators have a different d-pad placement, and you would end up shredding your screen protector to where its pointless to even have anymore. Perhaps someone should invent a touchscreen sensitive suction cup/other d-pad and button solution. This would be amazing, provided it isn't so stiff and sharp as to ruin the screen.

Bluetooth mustard race reporting in. Why wouldn't you use it in public? It's like people want to look like casuals. If not Bluetooth there's always Xperia Play or just go with a JXD gaming tablet.

Without a dedicated bluetooth controller, you can only really play RPGs, puzzle games, and the occasional odd man out (Sonic spinball comes to mind.) Anything else might have you throwing your phone in a fit of rage due to piss poor d-pad accuracy and the inability to hold down one button while tapping another.

That being said, it's GREAT for RPG's. The ability to use save states means that you can squeeze in 15-30 minutes of dungeon crawling or grinding during breaks at work/between classes/on the subway/whenever else you have a few minutes to spare. I never would have finished Earthbound without phone emulation.

>>1070994
you could make one that clips to the front and is clear. man i bet someone could mae one by layering the plasic

>>1071050
It's like you guys don't even shop. Bluetooth control pad is better though.

>>1071061
>street fighter 4
>suction pads that slide around like shit
>covers the entire fucking screen

worst shit I have ever seen

>>1071062
Those are some of the many reasons I said bluetooth gamepad is better but some people don't want to use them.

>>1071061
oh god no. I want it to be like a flip cover that is all one piece. Those look like nipple pasties

>>1071084
Well the problem is that different screens are different sizes so they need to be moveable. you could just stick those to your flip cover though.

There are also these things if you're trying to look as casual as possible. I really can't stress enough how much better a proper game controller is than any of this touch screen stuff. I figured that out for myself.

>>1071061
it has potential

>>1071108
I think the problem is that for the capacitive touch screen to work, you have to use a conductive rubber and it only comes in that dark gray color.

Shit like this is killing the gaming industry. Why not leave the industry out of this and simply kill yourself, OP? at least then you wouldn't be ruining everyone elses day.

>>1071180
you need to leave

seriously. please leave

>>1071180
Thanks for the laugh mate :)

I use a ps3 controller connected via bluetooth anyone bitching about touch controls is a plebeian

>>1071180
lmao overweight neckbeard. fuck off

I think it's cancer and anyone defending it is an idiot.

>>1072719
Thanks for the explanation why.

>>1072684
Do you actually lug around a PS3 controller wherever you take your phone?

>>1068431
Has anybody actually tried this? I imagine it might work okay if you used a generic controller layout for everything.

I must find one of these bad boys. It has one of those cool sliding keyboards so you can play pretty much anything.
My brother has one and he plays text adventures while riding bus.

How well does Retroarch run on Xperia Play with Jelly Bean? Is a JXD tablet a better option?

>>1068414
I got a sony experia play phone. the slide playstaion controller buttons are so great to use for playing emulators. I can only imagine trying to play anything besides an RPG with touch screen buttons

>>1068941

Don't use profiles for the controller, map the keys like a generic controller. Retroarch works with my ipega fine but it's a laggy shitty emulator on my nexus s

>>1073848
Why is it only the cheapest androids have hardware keyboards?

I bought a really crappy low-end Android (Pantech Crossfire) and I loved it to death because of dat hardware keyboard.

>>1075280

I was really craving for an Xperia Pro for portable gaming when the market was suddenly saturated with dual and quad core androids with hardly a decent model with a built in qwerty keyboard. I thought fuck this shit and bought a cheapo quad core china tablet that I can root and plug SD cards, gamepads and keyboards in with no regret if I end up breaking the thing.

I have this for my S3 and it's pretty good. For my Nexus 7 I would prefer some kind of controller I could attach to the sides of it thought, but so far I only play with the tablet on a homemade stand on my lap in bed and a PS3 controller connected through bluetooth.

If you're on a 4.2.2 or higher rom on android, how would you go about binding the wiimote to the phone?