/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10686347
No, sir. I don't like it.

The verdict is guilty.

use them if you want to; don't if you don't
/thread

RE4 HD texture pack is the only one I ever liked. The rest always looked like shit, the stand out too much.

>>10686358
>RE4 HD texture pack is the only one I ever liked
This and it's because they bothered finding/making appropriate textures that fit with the existing models. This AI generated slop doesn't even compare

>>10686358
>>10686364
How did they find the RE4 source textures?

>>10686369
>How did they find the RE4 source textures?
I never said they found the source textures. The point is that they're so well done that it still looks like RE4 and not a terrible romhack, or whatever the fuck is going on in the remake

I like the ones for Mesen that change NES games
This guy's making one for Simon's Quest

>>10686369
Spanish kid scouted all of Spain and photographed every texture again with better resolution. It's amazing and pretty much mandatory if you're gonna play that game.

>>10686379

stop caring about resolution and just play the video game

>>10686347
They're ok when made via AI-upscaling but I still never use them

>>10686380
Is that actually true?

sorry but how are there 13 posts letting op get away with calling that mismatched resolution shit 'original'?

Play the game

>>10686394
Yes.

https://www.re4hd.com/?cat=42

>>10686405
>Yes
I honestly thought they just sourced as closely as possible, that makes it even more impressive

>>10686347
why do you give a shit about a verdict think for yourself bitch

>>10686405
ai could've done it in 20 minutes

>>10686405
>>10686412
Post the most impressive aspects of RE4 HD project

>>10686394
I wouldn't say it's mandatory. OG texture are pretty good, but yeah. That's the only project that could replace og textures.

>>10686347
Back in the early 2000 I used to like them, apply the biggest resolution possible to PC games, use the most aggressive filters to emulators (GB/NES/SNES/GEN), patch whatever to get "better" visuals, upscale the hardest my computer can go on N64/PSX/DS emulators, you name it.
But at one point I just stopped and now I just want the most original experience possible, even if back then it looked like shit, it is the way I want it to look.
I'm still looking for a GBC filter that accurately depicts the way the panels barely reflected light and kinda sorta made colors, plus the shadows of the screens and every little imperfection. I do have a real GBC I use to get my fix, but a filter would be nice for posterity.

>>10686347
you didn't beat the game

>>10686398
because the thread is about textures, not the output resolution, dumbass

>>10686347
This looks somewhat passable, probably because of how flat and simplistic that specific corner is.

s o u l l e s s

Should I apply a shader or download 5 gbs of AI backgrounds?

>>10686420
And look like absolute shit

>>10686347
Why?

>>10686347
>>10687063
re1: no
re2: yes
re3: yes
re4: yes

re3 is almost perfectly upscaled. it's actually crazy. i'd say it's 95% there.
re2 is about 80-85% there, you will see a couple artifacts now and then but it's still very much worth playing over the original.
re1 is absolute trash. you're better off with a crt filter.
re4 is an insane work, the likes of which have never been seen in a hd mod pack. it is the intended way to play.

>>10687216
fucking lol

>>10687216

>>10687216
>re4 is an insane work, the likes of which have never been seen in a hd mod pack.
And you're mentioning it together with garbage AI slop. That's the biggest insult you could make to that project. It was a fanmade remaster basically.
> it is the intended way to play.
by whom?

>>10686347
not retro

>>10686358
This. It really is a great texture pack. They respected the original art style and intent of the game, and updated some models where appropriate.

The ability to revamp NES games to such a degree is pretty cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWlcPiLc8l0

>>10687798
That just looks weird. It's impressive, but forcing shit like big Kraid when he clips through the floor is awful. The pause screen having a map and your items is cool, the weird clashing art asset of Samus is not. The new sprites for enemies don't gel with their limited animation, either. It looks like a flash fangame from the 2000s.

>>10687216
AI smear is what it is but for re2 and re3 the improvement to the optical illusion of 3d made it worth it for me.

Theyre always terrible and I don't understand why. Most of them don't even bother to look the same as the original textures and just use random bullshit. There are some that get closer but then are too overly detailed and end up looking gross on these low detail games.

Not retro(yet) but the only good one I have ever seen and used is for Xenoblade 1.

>>10686347
Original because the character and environment are synced in terms of quality.

>>10687234
no way? writing that was never legible in the og is also illegible in the upscale? color me shocked.

>>10686420
Thanks for your input, but some us have actual taste and want good results.

>>10687984
Gah, that Mario looks wrong as fuck! Good HD packs are a genuine rarity.

>>10688456
does bottom require me to use retroarch?

>>10688656
Yes

or that ares emulator anons are shilling here but I can't confirm

>>10688664
yeah guess I'll just have to accept chunky pixels then.

>>10688678
I've refused to use RA for years but I finally gave in because I really wanted to use shaders and it's actually pretty good. The only complaint I have is that the input configuration is retarded, but the rest is fine and it has more features than any other emulator/frontend if you're playing 5th gen and earlier

>>10686347
Looks terrible there, lost the grime and baked shadows to avoid some pixels
I remember seeing a dolphin emulation of gamecube RE2 that looked fantastic with touched up textures.

>>10686347
>What's the verdict on HD texture packs?
my verdict is that i'm doing my best

For anything before the PS2? No, I want the old look. I'd rather people made more 60fps patches than texture patches, mostly for games that can't even maintain stable 30fps.

>>10689262
I guess your best wasn't good enough.

>>10686347

>>10687216
I honestly hate how this shit looks. If you don't notice the very obvious AI artifacts then I don't know what to tell you, and this one of the better ones. CRT or a good scanline filter is really how these games should be seen.

>>10686356
>What's the verdict on CRTs
>What's the verdict on game guides
>What's the verdict on emulators
No one cares what you do, you don't need a dopamine hit from this nonsense, just be a man and make your own decision

>>10686347
Depends on the pack as >>10686358 mentioned the RE4HD texture pack is a master class of the HD texture pack and I would genuinely be shocked if we ever got something half as good as this ever again. Otherwise texture packs can range from soulless to solid. I played twilight princess with a HD pack on dolphin a few years back and thought it looked great.

>>10688354
>"s-stop! it's the same as before!"
The difference is that now I can see that it's obviously gibberish. It calls attention to itself by being clear enough to be observed.

>>10686347
I can make out her titties better in the lower one.

>>10686347
Come to your own conclusion.
>>10686349
Can I interest you in some rubber nipples?

>>10686379
>This guy
Whomst?

>>10691029
Guy on castlevania subreddit. It's not done yet, he just posted some screens

>>10691047
Is there a list somewhere of all the MESEN HD Packs? Seems like they're just kind of scattered about. I have no idea how many there even are.

>>10686347
Quite soulless, to make textures with the high resolution you should add details, on your screenshot, the pixelated mess looks better because the upscaled version is too clean

>>10686347
Some look good. Some don't. There's no single unanimous decision on which is better, it's on a case-by-case basis, usually determined by how closely they stick to the original intent and polish them to match the style and atmosphere of the original game.

There's really no better example than this one right here.

>>10689679
>muh CRT
Fuck off and die in a hole.

>>10688439
Why do I keep seeing people using exclamation (!) points all of a sudden now? Last 6 or 7 months I've noticed it's gotten a lot more popular. Who are you shouting at? Are you an ESL?

>>10686347
Gay when it's AI upscales like that, which often interpret grime and baked shadows as noise and artifacts to be removed. Otherwise, mostly varies but generally don't mind. Personally, I'm more of a fan of stuff like Phantom Dust, whose rerelease just used the original HD textures that had to be compressed on Xbox

>>10688456
>look at the tube
>the tube

You mean the fucking RAILING you retard?

>>10691714
it's just add shadows, it's shit

>>10689679
For me one of the big issues is all the text, you could argue that in lots of lower res games like the classic RE games, you can't read the text that's on most stuff in the world anyway, but for me at least, it seems like it does actually say stuff, its just hard to make out, with the AI upscaling I can clearly see that it just got turned into mushy blobs that kinda look like letters

>>10686347
'ate em
simple as

>>10687984
>i've seen some shit

>>10691726
Maybe you're just retarded!

>>10691726
fucking LOL!

>>10691726
>all of sudden
it means you finally became autistic. I've been autistic longer than you so i've noticed it forever

>>10686347
the shit texture compression adds to the grittiness of the game.
the upscale looks fine but at that resolution it looks too plain.
the ideal would be a fan remake of the textures but it's usually hit or miss.

>>10687216
Is there a mod to remove the weird pauses in dialogue for these games? I find them endearing but I like to imagine what it would be like to listen to dialogue that isn't completely awkward

>>10691726
Don't look up how people (including the big ol' faggot moot himself) used to post here circa 2004-2006.

They could be good in theory, but a lot of people making them aren't very good artists; they just happen to know how to mod games.

>>10686420
I think this project is a few years older than the AI craze.

>>10690216
>le le le le dopamine

Fucking stop using this gross misunderstanding of what dopamine is and does as an interchangeable term for "pleasure from affirmation".

Also, people are likely asking because they're trying to hear both sides of the argument to form an opinion. The staunchest supporters of each typically have their strongest points chambered to rattle off at all times vs. mealy mouthed horseshit articles/youtube videos that just beat around the bush and never take a stance.

And for the record:
>CRTs are ideal if playing on original hardware with composite cables, but not remotely necessary for emulation
>Game guides are often required by design for certain games to get past needlessly cryptic impasses
>Emulators are based as fuck and as long as they're "mature" emulators with reasonably accurate design to the real hardware they are pretty much the superior way to play, especially if retro on an HD screen/monitor.

>>10691734
He means tube TV you retard, these retro games were designed around the inherent smoothing effects of CRT TVs. This is why HQ2x and similar are the only right way to play these games on modern screens because they do a similar but superior version of CRT smearing to make the games look correct. CRT filters would be the choice, but they're processor intensive and often come out way too dim on HDTVs/monitors.

>>10692527
All the texture work in Grim Fandango HD is redrawn or at least redone with higher quality versions of the same textures.
But, you're a retarded monkey so you just see new lighting and go "wuh that's all they did?"

I like the ones that have better boobies.