/vr/ - Retro Games

Fakes out.

Maybe 1980.

Seems dumb to set a limit desu

I grew to like Atari games, but I still don't have a taste for most NES games with their obscure solutions and overly difficult gameplay.
I'm not playing any computershit that requires me to type answers and remember 300 hotkeys

>>10673523
I don't mind going back to Atari era and experience it live because I wasn't live yet during that. Seems like interesting times.

>>10673523
I don’t set such limitations for myself. There are so many windows into history, into humanity, into the subculture and hobby that unites and divides us all, just begging to be experienced.
We have very long lives ahead of us, brother. Do not hold yourself back from experiencing greatness.

The emulation is bumping, the resolutions look great, the vidya is flowing. There is much pain in the world but not on this board.

for consoles, nes is the oldest i still play, however i did grow up playing a little 2600 and colecovision. plenty of old arcade games still worth playing.

>>10673523
Born in 87, didn't get into gaming until 93, can't really go earlier than the 16-bit era.

I've tried, but the NES and SMS just don't resonate with me.

>>10673523
zoomer

>>10673523
I tend to cap it at third gen, so NES, Master System, PC-98, etc. I guess I could give Atari a shot but it does feel kind of primitive to me (my first systems were SNES and Genesis).

i play some electromechanicals you little pissbaby

Any of those old arcade games '77-85 are fucking fun if you find one in good working order to play. If you can't deal with the difficulty then git gud, they aren't that bad

>>10673523
I'll go all the way back to Pong and Dragster, get on my level, faggot.
My real hang up is I'm almost entirely uninterested in any PC game pre-2005. I've tried, but I just can't play simutlators, or CRPGs, and precious few graphic adventures hold my attention.

There are no limits for me. I will play the 70s "tech demo" maze games and you CAN'T stop me. The old game dev's game will be played and their shame revealed.

My limit is probably the Coleco Telstar Arcade, assuming I don't have a second player for the Magnavox Odyssey and the mountain of Pong consoles of the first generation. I'm assuming arcade games don't count.

>>10673737
Wait, some of the mainframe computer games are pretty good, but I'm assuming they don't count either.

>>10673617
EM pinball master race

>>10673828
stfu reddit kid

>>10673572
This one right here! Games are meant to be fun, not be outdated.

NES & Master System, but not often. I only really wanted to play Master System for Sonic and Phantasy Star, NES for castlevania and mega man

Started gaming on atari 2600 and on my Tandy 1000 back in 88 along with my Sega master system and nes. So can play all these games cause it brings me back but no. Most of these old games play like crap. There's nuggets here and there especially with the consoles at the time but dos games didn't get big for me til 90s along with snes.

>>10673879
Vectrex is cool too

>>10673523
I'm not a small minded little bitch so I don't set arbitrary limits like that. I can enjoy Atari games for what they are, Pong is fun too, especially with multiplayer or some of the more complex pong consoles.

If you don't enjoy Atari games or NES games or early arcade games. It's because you don't understand them. It's actually a (You) problem. If you go into an Atari game expecting anything other than 10 minutes of fun, then you're an idiot. If you go into a NES game expecting anything more than an afternoon challenge, then you're an idiot.

Take them for what they are OP. Stop being a faggot.

>>10673523
I can play NES games just fine, but 2600 games and the like just don't click for me, they're way too rudimentary to interact with and look at.

>>10673567
Arcades are a bit of their own thing, but yeah, plenty of older ones are good.

>>10673617
Those are definitely their own thing, I feel that you can basically not compare pinball to videogames at all, except for pinball videogames. The engineering that went into oldschool electromechanical tables is nuts, by the way.

Once got to see a guy pop one open to do some maintenance when I was a kid, and he explained briefly how there was no microchips or CPUs, no RAM or program code, it was mostly all mechanical counters tripped by the ball smacking and closing electric circuits. Blew my little mind, felt like a highly sophisticated Rube Goldberg machine.

>>10673523
Atari. Not often, but I do like to time travel sometimes, and a lot of those single screen games are fun.

>>10673939
>If you go into an Atari game expecting anything other than 10 minutes of fun, then you're an idiot.
Not him, but while I get that those games were all in a narrow scope given hardware limitations, and that you're only really meant to play in really short bursts, that still just fails to captivate me.

I grew up with an NES and Windows 95 PC, where even single screen games had a lot of length, you could go at Tetris or Space Cadet Pinball for a few hours easy. A simple platformer like Super Mario Bros. took a few hours to beat, that was like a real adventure, and some games (PC or NES), were so long that you needed to save and then come back later.
Some games were also pretty hard, so you had to spend time learning the gameplay too.

It all feels like comparing a full meal to a raw ingredient. This is a good onion, this is a good egg, but I need more ingredients and then to actually cook them in some way for it to really work.

>>10673523
I don't put limits on myself but to be honest I never go further behind the 8-bit hyperclassics like pacman, tetris, galaxian, etc

>>10673523
Considering I have had fun playing an Odyssey with friends, I have no dumb limit. I can't believe you cant get joy out of Game&Watch titles OP. I bet your oppion would change if you played the glory which is Squish.

>>10673638
See, that is opposite for me. I love PC gaming up until the mid to late 2000s when all the uniquely PC genres started dieing off, became bastardized and most of it just started feeling like console games/ports. Plus more modern bullshit like Microsoft wanting to push Windows more and more as a live service shit just sours the taste of using pcs anymore for newer games and just using them as work machines. Take me back to the golden age of the multimedia boom era and I am constantly digging up neat obscurities i never heard of or interesting doujin titles.

The furthest back I'm able to go is 1985, there might be a couple of exceptions for games before that but in general thats where I usually stop.

>>10674230

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue-1JoJQaEg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3p_Cv32tEo

Famiclones were what everyone and their dog played over here in late noneties while only select rich kids has a 16bit Sega and no one knew SNES existed (most people still don't). I have no nostalgia for that time and I don't want to go back.

>>10673523
I was born in '87 and had a NES growing up, but I tend to only want to go back to 16 bit gaming. NES just feels too primitive

>>10674423
that sounds very odd, where do you live?

>>10674429
even SNES seems too primitive if you start to notice how sprite limits determine level design

>>10674437
A mid-sized Russian city.

>>10673523
i have an nes and will take it out for maniac mansion and super mario bros 2, and maybe golgo 13 once every five years. i play sega genesis and snes more regularly. i gave up on fucking with atari 2600 but i’d play something that far back if there was an arcade cabinet. but only for one quick play. i grew up with those games but now they seem too simple. and nes is not as exciting anymore. but segs genesis never dies for me. shining force 2, flashback, revenge of shinobi are eternal

>>10674594
the remakes of Mario 2 are way better and hamburger mario stinks!

Generations get fuzzy. Instead, I will pinpoint the oldest game I am willing to call fun.

>>10674609
>way better
i like it exactly as it is, i don’t want it to be better you crackhead zoomie

>>10674639
All-Stars 2 is so pretty though, almost as good as World and you will not have sex this year

>>10673523
Really old arcade games like pac man or missile command are fine, I could waste an hour that way easily. Actual home stuff with the kind of chips that were viable to put in home electronics in the early 80s though... only some genres where tech is nearly meaningless like text adventures

NES

>>10673523
I feel this. NES was the start of the true video game that was more than single screen bleep bloop block pixels, but they were definitely straight assholes when it came to a fair challenge. There's only a few games I go back to on NES with any regularity, and most are towards the end of the system's life or have cheat codes that make it more palatable (i.e. Contra).

>>10673523
to whatever I owned back when I was a kid

Anything before 5th gen is basically unplayable. Full of time wasting filler mechanics that don't respect your time

>>10674884
Which was?

>>10673523
I grew up on PS1 games and never cared much for the pre 5th generation. Especially with 2D JRPG's like Suikoden 2 and Indie developed 2D RPG's for PC which came out in the 2000's these are all superior to anything on the SNES imo at least JRPG wise, with the exception of the Final Fantasy series of course. Recently I have gotten in to some old NES games to learn Japanese because they lack complex Kanji characters and I have to say some of them are really enjoyable. if I were to recommend ONE and only one game though I would say go play 3D World Runner. This is a TRUE hidden gem that people do not bring up enough and it really shows you that with a good development team these older systems could churn out some amazing stuff. You can play it here: https://www.retrogames.cc/nes-games/3-d-battles-of-world-runner-the-usa.html

1994 kid here, I honestly have not acquired the taste for Snes games. At least enough to beat them. I just havent found a single snes game that actually clicks with me, and most are pretty dated as fuck. PS1 games hold up more but even then n64 and ps1 only has such a few amount of games even worth touching. PS2 is when games actually got pretty good, then things started to nose dive after like 2012

>>10674898
yeah, pong really had time wasting mechanics…

>>10674945
This does not read like it is typed by someone who was born in this year I should say.

>>10673523
NES is all right, you just have to limit yourself to games that are actually good and have good control schemes instead of jankfests that people who grew up playing now swear were always "supposed to be that way".

>>10673523
I say it depends more on the games themselves than the generation they were in.

>>10673523
I have a Sears telegame, a.k.a. atari 2600. it's mostly just a show piece. It's a pretty nice looking console. I have a harmony cartridge for it that has all the games. I fire it up every once in a while

>>10674956
Yeah I think he hit the 199 key instead of the 200 key by mistake

I'm right on the cusp of zoomer. I will play Atari shit gladly because it's comfy. I don't really care about anything before that but I'm not opposed to it.

>>10673720
This 100%

>>10673523
Atari 2600 is fun for a few minutes for the sake of its historical significance and novelty but lacks substance beyond that aside from a handful of really well-made arcade ports.

>>10674956
I'm sorry gramps but kids that mainly grew up with ps2 games are nearly 30 now.

>>10674393
80s game artwork is so cool. Very retro comic book-esque.

>>10673523
If I had the chance? All the way back.

>>10673523
If we're talking about literal time travelling, then any time period, it could be fun to watch how technology is developing and games are becoming more advanced (but I'd want my memory to be erased because I don't want to know every secret in every game beforehand).

Early 80's is a fine choice.

>>10673523
Atari for some games, but NES since I have a ton of nostalgia for.

>>10673585
Atari feels too boring but I've heard frogger isn't that bad

I play fun games

>>10673536
this tbdesu, OP is retarded

>>10675995
It's ok, I played a Flash version of it on some website when using a school computer in the 2000s, and I vaguelly recall it being on some compilation release for a console at a friend's house.
Those kinds of games make perfect sense to slot in as minigames in later, more complex games.

>>10674416
Oh man, yeah, like that, really making the memories vivid now, I'll have to sit down and watch those in full. The kind of thought and planning that went into making those oldschool machines tick is something else.

Some people when talking about machines, tools, guns, etc, will say that complexity is bad, and that the smartest designs are often pretty simple. There's some general truth to that, but this kind of shit is an example of complexity being beautiful and clever, hard work and lots of thinking went into these things and that's why they were even possible to pull off before the digital age.

>>10675934
Lots of cool comic book style art for covers and cartridge labels back then, also a lot of very cool D&D rulebook cover style art.
I think we lost something as a society when we stopped doing Vallejo style paintings for covers and posters.

>>10673523
Zoomers don't know what midi means

>>10673523
There was a side-scrolling shmup for the Atari probably-not-2600 that I liked
I want to play ET again with the manual so I can understand what the hell it does

SMB3 seems almost as modern as. Super Mario World. OP, you should play that. And maybe Shinobi for the Sega system. Consider using the level select to get past the Mandara boss, though.

Oh, Mega Man 2–4.

>>10675945
Had a friend growing up (around 7 or so) whose mom had one of these in the basement and even it felt ancient at the time (mid 90s)

It looked like these. No one really played it. Everyone was busy playing street fighter or Mortal kombat for snes

>>10674945
There was a group of people I knew that hated ps1 and thought it was a downgrade from genesis and snes

They would only play 007 or Tony hawk

>>10674281
Yeah but you're not supposed to play Atari games for hours at a time like we do now. It was the 3rd gen that started that. You aren't supposed to be captivated. You're supposed to play for a little bit and then do something else. It was a different time with different expectations for what games were. Nobody expected it would become what it has become.

It's more like a toy. People didn't spend all day indoors playing Atari games. That's the mindset you need for Atari games, a fun little time waster. But there are games from that era that have the same addictive nature you're talking about anyway. Space Invaders, Pacman, etc. But even so I personally can't play a game like that for longer than half an hour. Doesn't mean I don't like it, it's just not an adventure. That's exactly the wrong mindset to have, going into it expecting an adventure will leave you dissapointed.

They're minigames, just without the bigger game surrounding it.

>>10673523
I enjoy everything, but I rarely play stuff from before 1980. Pac-Man is great, but I rarely play older arcade games or Atari 2600 games. They're still fun sometimes.

>>10676460
To be honest I had a musician friend in the 00's who used midi and still had no idea what the fuck it was, claiming I was wrong when I told midi doesn't have sound

>>10676581
It's not redbook audio or anything, but those doots are vibrating the air.

>>10676508
Just had the thought of assembling old arcade/2600 classics like that into a Mario Partyesque kind of deal, a digital boardgame full of these as minigames where you'd compete for score.

>>10676965
Could actually make that into a real board game with a printer, some card, a tablet and a bluetooth controller. I might do that honestly. I can imagine that would be a lot of fun with friends/family.

>>10673523
NES and Atari

>>10673523
1979 or so for home consoles. Earlier for arcade cabinets.

>>10673523
NES for consoles, golden age for arcades.

>>10673523
1962

>>10676508
Yeah, people who dismiss pre-NES games aren't approaching them right. You're supposed to compete with other people for score, not sit around playing them all day alone.

Begging ya'll to play 2nd Gen Arcade games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMto2HJJSSA

>>10679869
I want a color successor to the Vectrex so badly

>>10679838
You can play solo too if you shoot for beating certain score or loop milestones or making up faggy achievements type goals.

>>10673523
The SNES/Genesis/arcade stuff is basically as far back as I go most of the time with a few exceptions:

Some NES games are pretty fun. The original mario and megaman games hold up pretty well.

I have never had an interest in Atari or MS or even the Game Gear/Original Gameboy. I had an original gameboy but today I can't stomach them.

>>10679869
That was an entertaining video. More shooters should be like that.

>>10675945
This looks like a place that Harold Hill would convince a town to turn against

>>10676471
>I want to play ET again with the manual so I can understand what the hell it does

do it, figuring out how to be effective at playing it can be pretty fun if you're into that sort of thing (and of course it doesn't take long since this is a 2600 game after all)

You duders who can't handle anything as old as the NES look pretty silly. You know different genres and different aspects of games have developed to different extents since then right? Tile-based puzzles for example, Tetris derivatives and Lolo and Lode Runner and whatnot - that stuff is limited by the player's cognitive abilities, and the human brain hasn't improved since then. Music, a far far older medium, hasn't developed a whole lot either; nor has gaming devices' ability to play it. If you can't let a soundtrack carry you through a dense, straightforward, relatively well-polished action game like Castlevania 1 or 3 then you've got bad taste, which has nothing to do with anything's age. And if you don't like Punch-Out!! then you're just a bad person.

On the other hand, if you can't handle the repetitive mechanics and crude story of an RPG from that time, okay that's fair. If you try a classic action/adventure game from a sub-Capcom-and-Konami developer, like say Blaster Master or The Guardian Legend, and become excessively annoyed by the janky parts of it, fair enough. If you struggle to get into an early classic with some rough edges like Metroid, fair enough. Koei wargames, story-heavy games, some kinds of action games, etc. have developed a lot since then thanks to refinement of standards in design and greatly increased computing power and digital storage capacity. But some other things have not.