/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
SUM TING /VR/Y WONG
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/10413464
https://archive.org/details/shadow-warrior-mapping-kit

/Vertex Relocation/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/10592017


=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
AD MORTEM FINAL CUT (v1.5.6)
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3exnqm8nxg4gukhj10hcp?rlkey=r5nwzu32pfh2dtefpbjy2p49b
Ad Mortem Guns (DECORATE): https://files.catbox.moe/ihv4l4.zip

=== WHEN IT'S DONE ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE 2
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/9941720

=== NEWS ===
[1-25]Surreal Engine a "general source port" of OG Unreal engine was discovered by Anon
https://github.com/dpjudas/SurrealEngine

[1-25]The md5 model of the Guardian Boss is out for Quake 2 Remastered, making all monsters finally HD.
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/md5-model-guardian-for-quake-2-remastered

[1-25]The SW mapping kit had been updated with a tutorial video, Build Engine Boot Camp.
>>10633519

[1-23]Seaside Sanctuary for /vertex relocation/ project
>>10627127

[1-23]Trenchbroom 2024.1 rc1 is out
https://github.com/TrenchBroom/TrenchBroom/releases/tag/v2024.1-RC1

[1-21]Turok Anon IS ALIVE And Kicking! and he released the demo of his map and the Adon model as resource.
>>10620808

[1-21]Wadazine #22 is out Featuring GMOTA (we are getting famous lads!)
https://wadazine.com/

[1-21]Anon updates Map07 for /vertex relocation/ project
>>10620840

[1-16]Doom Delta 3.0 released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG80_xN1WgU [Open] [Embed]

[1-16]Episode Enyo, prequel to Slave Zero, is available for Quake's re-release and source ports.
https://poppy.works/?games=slave-zero-x-episode-enyo

[1-13]Prototype Speedmapping Map Jam for the Quake 2 Remaster Released
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/q2proto1-jam-2024-final

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
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>>10653596

>>10653607
>carmack minmaxing his life by not speccing into housing decorations at all

>id software doesn't even mention id's anniversary

>>10653607
>>10653629
People always think I'm a weirdo whenever I bring them over because I have zero decorations in my home and only the necessities. What's up with that?

>>10653607
>Tom's got an arcade machine sitting in the background
Yeah that's about what I'd expect for the dude.

>>10653629
Carmack is sitting in the void beyond realities, what we see as him is just a protrusion of a larger entity forcing it's way into our reality.
>>10653312
>>10653160
Can we get rid of both?

>>10653679
Because eventually you will want to have some color or something.

>>10653745
I'm already black

>>10653679
I'm like you and I'm totally happy. I hate it when people think I cleaned up recently just because I like to keep shit clean.

>>10653745
Color is okay but I don't like useless crap everywhere. Just shit that's needed for the setup and layout to function, including furniture.

>>10653749
>Just shit that's needed for the setup and layout to function, including furniture.
And where would a nice print or poster fit there?

Hey guys I'm going to make my 1st .wad and it's going to have a lot of internet culture and meme references what all should I put in it? Obviously Doom meme references like the cacodemon and RIP AND SHRED.

>>10653679
you ever been stuck in a hospital?
or jail?
just sitting there staring at a blank wall?
barren walls and floors makes a place feel more like a prison, and less like a home

not that im advocating for filling your walls with kitschy live laugh love crap, but theres a reason people tend to decorate their place somewhat. for most, it makes them less uncomfortable

>>10653749
thats still furnishing
carmack looks like hes in a psychward lol

Eviternity map 26, the very end of the 'Silence' ( i believe the name was) cave part where you had to shoot switches in those shootable zones. for some reason both the switch behind the green armor and this switch to exit aren't working. any ideas??

yes, i am on mbf21.

>>10653765
>barren walls and floors makes a place feel more like a prison, and less like a home
That's you man. I respect your experiences and understand them but that's not how I feel and I want you to understand me. I don't particularly like being in hospitals but barren walls don't make me feel like I'm in one. Hospitals have a lot more in them that make them look likes hospitals than just plain walls. Like sick people, unpleasant looking machinery, etc. I guess as far as decorations go, I do like a nice rug but that's more of a necessity because I have hardwood floor. I don't need much more than a well-ventilated room, a bed, and some privacy to feel comfortable

>>10653756
Only poster I have is a "I WANT TO BELIEVE" poster on the door that I've had there for years... I don't want to take it off since it would break it, so might as well keep it.

>>10653765
Yeah, you're right about sterile environments.

>thats still furnishing
Of course, but everything needs to fit in, be clean and serve a purpose, like where I sit now, the room only has a chair, the table for the computer and monitors, plus speakers and sound dampening on the walls.

>>10653785
you missed the first switch

imp armor

https://www.mediafire.com/file/v0tv48rpfkl2dl2/DevilsMalifiCe.wad/file

Alright fiends, finally polished my first level into being something I want to see others play and call "damn good"
Abandoned the jumping shit from my previous attempt.
It has 9 pairs of (2) archviles, find and defeat them all masochists.
Anyway I want critique/feedback.
Or if you prefer to only watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idcH22nfU2I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmK3IkZckeU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLy6xp2oQC0

>>10653797
and where's that?

>>10653824
to the right after passing the door

>>10653785
had the same problem, downloaded the latest release (RC5) and it worked

>>10653740
>Firing from all 6 barrels of a minigun simultaneously
Classic. Are there any weapon mods that have this as an alt fire?

>>10653629
that's an assburger focus room

>>10653843
the switch between the baron room and this ending staircase? it's been active from the start. idk what other door you're talking about. i don't see any others.
>>10653869
>rc1 saves don't work on rc5 even after renaming the file
cringe. i wasn't too far into the map, nor was it too difficult but i hate having to redo shit. always forget to update with newer versions. thanks

>>10653894
>>rc1 saves don't work on rc5 even after renaming the file
>cringe. i wasn't too far into the map, nor was it too difficult but i hate having to redo shit. always forget to update with newer versions. thanks
what's the matter? eviternity is full of pistol starts, so no big deal

>>10653629
>>10653629
>There wasn't anything in your room -- only a bed and a small desk. It looked like a prison cell...

>>10653791
I don't think you need posters or paintings or whatever (I have some, but whatever) but I do think some consideration should be out into paint, wallpaper, molding, and furniture tying a room together as a "place". I grew up with old victorian's and farm houses, churches, etc. Seeing a place with IKEA furniture and off-white walls off-white floors amd off-white ceilings, molding, blah blah jist feels temporary. Generationally pointless or something.
Not trying to shit on you, I don't think you need more to be happy, but I feel like there's some stunting of culture or something in places like that. Can't put a finger on it.
Whatever makes you happy though. There is something to be said for minimalism. My wife has all sorts of childhood toys and such all over the walls, and that's good for her, she takes good care of them and plays with them with our kids now. I have a lot less and that works for me because I don't care to dust all that. More things is more hassle. More to lose.
Thanks for reading my blog.

To bring it back to doom, do you prefer minimalist maps, or more detail? Somewhere in between?

>>10653894
can you show me screenshots? it's been a while since i played eviternity

>>10653882
i always thought he looked like a roided 8 year old on that pic

Assuming the lowest damage rolls for each shot, how many revenant fireballs would you need to one shot a cyberdemon?

>>10653923
400

>>10653897
i always pistol start, and iirc this map is a forced one anyways, but redoing something in doom is just a pet peeve of mine.

>>10653910
incase there's any confusion, i'm talking about eviternity 2

>>10653924
that's a lot of balls, thanks

>>10653923
>how many
>one shot
I get what you mean I just wanted to be an ass.

>>10653741
It's funny to see Chop's reputation gradually drop since 2048 units to the point where he's compared to fucking Joe Ilya, but I can't say it's undeserved.

>>10653898
lol she was so freaked out about that

>>10653940
Yet, some of us still wait.

>>10653940
>>10653985

working on possibly the most elaborate secret in any Doom map ever. this is for MAP08 and entirely optional
it's based on the idea I posted a couple of threads ago about puzzles so hard not even the fastest computer could solve them. except not as bad of course

>>10653989
so what's new outside of the guns. a spider mastermind recolor?

>>10653942
>strange journey
that games crazy desu

>>10652581
That's been in for a while. They're slippery little bastards aren't they?
>>10652638
Yes and no. Started as a Brutal Doom knockoff, evolved into its own thing.

>>10653942
What's the joke I never played SJ

>>10654031
You play a space marine fighting demons in strange journey

>>10653598
So what's the plan for when the relocation deadline hits? Release as-is, maybe have more phases later?

>>10654031
The joke is just "I swapped the titles of two loosely similar games." You play as a marine fighting demons in an otherworldly hellscape with guns in Strange Journey, just like Doom but Japanese.

>>10654041
>>10654036
Intradesting. We could use more strange takes on typical tropes.

>>10653904
>To bring it back to doom, do you prefer minimalist maps, or more detail? Somewhere in between?
I actually do like more complex levels with intricate level design funnily enough lol. While I live in a white void, I do appreciate aesthetics and architecture. I just can't be arsed to decorate my shit

>>10653882
Isn't that the doom status bar's angry hurt face? Must be from the same action movie still

>>10654064
Interesting. See I'm right in the middle irl and in doom. When things get overly detailed it's starts feeling like noise. Broad strokes, trim, clarity. Yeh.

>>10653898
IT WAS THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING YOU DUMB BITCH

>>10653749
>useless crap
So you're not allowed in the room?

>>10654008
I'm kind of amazed slade hasn't crapped out on me with this yet. I've done way simpler geometry where it messes up the sectors for some reason, but not here

>>10654079
While my home is barren, irl I love urban exploration or going to historical landmarks to see cool stuff. I have no idea why I'm like this. Maybe I just like to experience new things and explore cool worlds while decorating my home would just feel too familiar and unexciting to me

>>10653940
>Chop
chopkinsca?

>>10653940
I wish we could just fucking kill him.

>>10654079
NTA, but at home I really like interesting knickknacks and a tightly controlled but non-sterile color palette. I've a smart lighting setup where I can set a warm sundown glow in the evening.

WAD-wise I really like maps like Unloved, where the environment tells a story and you feel like staying for a bit just to look at stuff every now and then.

Let me guess. You need more than this??

>>10653596
Last thread: >>10639913

>>10654089
Kek

What is the appeal of La Tailor Girl? Why do people seem to be so fond of it?

>>10654318
cum

>>10654318
pic related with tiddies and guns

I like fireblu

>>10654326
Sick fuck.

>>10654320
It's not really my style of cum I guess. Probably an issue on my part.

>>10654374
Yeah it's like /e/ instead of full on /h/ content, just teetering on the fine line

>>10654229
I don't just need more, I demand it.

>>10654375
A full on /h/ take on La Tailor Girl would be fun. I bet Nari has industrial suction power.

>>10654380
I for one would prefer to see a /z/ take on the mod. Bbzzz bzzz.

>>10654375
I think it's just that the artstyle might be too chibi for my taste, but yeah
>>10654380
Honestly more horny doom mods would be nice. H-Doom is alright but also kind of underwhelming. I'd probably like it more if the enemies still looked a little more demonic but again, that's probably just a me problem.

>>10653882
They spin so fast that it can almost look like all barrels firing when they get up to speed IRL. I think someone actually did a mod where a Minigun had all barrels blowing fire like a flamethrower for altfire.

>>10654389
OH NO THE .WAD IS GONE!

>>10654380
https://youtu.be/Z2EMGmv0FqM?si=TGvk14mb4AsiWui1

>>10653598
https://youtu.be/y0orUm6zqMk
33rd anniversary stream with Romero, Hall, and Carmack.

Hi! I like to play Doom and make friends!!

>>10654380
>I bet Nari has industrial suction power.

https://youtu.be/oupVIveVt3E?si=G14IjyiU7liUFuBA&t=9

>>10653801
Breddy gud.

>>10654403
All these years later and Carmack still talks like a high pitched dweeb. Makes me wanna take his lunch money.

>>10653985
>>10653989
>tfw never any screenshots of my map

>>10654558

he's trapped in the hidden plutonia illusiono pit

>>10654682
>>10654750
These now? The filenames are throwing me off.

>>10654753
they're my old screenshots i deleted when updating gzdoom, i usually try finding them in the archive

>>10654753

>>10654091
And what is the payoff for solving this very elaborate secret?

>>10654905
>the last and most brutal Doom there will ever be
heh...

>>10654036
It must be that game where you fight a giant cyborg demon with an incredible ass.

>>10655091
I just want EYE2 so bad.

>>10654318
>>10654325
Kid Chameleon really is a good analogy, how the armor affects your weapons and other stuff is really cool (and must be a pain in the ass under the hood).

It also varies runs up quite a bit since you're unlikely to end up with the same outfits.

>>10655094
Sadly it's unlikely we'll see anything like it from them, they sold themselves, mostly for the chance to work on 40k games, which weren't the most amazing games ever.

>>10654036

>>10655112
I suppose I get it, at some point you gotta make money, but fuck. EYE's setting is fascinating. I love everything, absolutely everything about that game.

>>10654905
>"This is why they made the N64."
>doesn't even have room-over-room

>>10655130

>>10654036
The opening is also horror kino. It's not necessarily relevant, but I just wanted to mention it.
Even later sections of the game have some dread-inducing gameplay in much the same ways as classic Doom 1/2 (e.g. falling down a hole being a potential death sentence for the unsuspecting), although Strange Journey gets much more tedious.

>>10655136
SMT as a series is cock torture and I would recommend most posters here to stay away and just keep posting crossover memes about it instead.

>>10652025
>a Shalrath whose missiles do 25% of their normal damage
Isn't this roughly how the wrath enemies from the mission packs work? Playing that, I'd frequently just tank the damage of wrathballs since killing them quickly was safer or faster than trying to dodge that shit. If you reduced the damage of voreballs, I worry it would encourage a similar lazy behavior. For context, wraths also apparently have 400 health. Could possibly be accommodated with good level design.
>>10654326
My favorite doom texture is marbface, followed by midvine2 and panbook.

>>10654946
I'm thinking you get a much easier monster fight. and lots of items of course

>>10655185
On hard/nightmare wraths are used frequently in close quarters, so killing them means you took damage from their body exploding, which does far more damage than their wrathballs. That said, I did forget about them, but I like enemy variants a lot in my video games so I think I'll just go through with it.

I played a bit of re:mobilize again. Why did all the mappers have to make the trampoline jumps so finnicky? You can't know by looking whether you need a running jump, or just a jump, or just a run, or air control once you're there. It breaks the flow completely.

>>10655314
Man I forgot that came out. The backlog stretches from Earth to Pluto and back.

>>10654326

>>10654326
It's the pineapple on pizza of Doom
Generally disliked, but mainly as a meme

>>10655314
That mod is kinda just too gimmicky overall. If you're going to do enhanced movement stuff in Quake, it should be in a way that is intuitive and makes the game FASTER. The grabby walls and awkwardly slow grapple that you can only use on specific places are genuinely awful.
The grapple + jump boots combo in Violent Rumble's Recreational Astrocide is probably the peak of Quake movement. I just wish there was more than one map like that.

>>10655154
filtered
being dungeon crawlers, Megaten floor design shares DNA with Doom levels
even down to classic staples of both Doom WADs and dungeon crawlers like dark rooms, teleport mazes, damage floor mazes, etc

>>10655345
link to that mod?

>>10654380
What about /h/ideous /d/estructor?
>the enemies can do sex finishers on you
>mind your heart rate, it's technically possible to give yourself a heart attack by humping too fast and too long
>zerk gives you the most raging wood ever and crazy endurance
>abusing zerk and stims can kill your mojo (and cause a heart attack)
>seduce enemies into unlocking and opening doors for you
>put on a gimp suit to protect against hazards

>>10655372
>enemies can bite off your dick

>>10655342
>awkwardly slow grapple that you can only use on specific places are genuinely awful
I don't mind the grapple whenever they make an arena utilising several of them. But even then it doesn't feel good because you travel straight towards the grapple point instead of preserving your momentum.

>>10655154
i actually WOULD recommend it to anons
anon tends towards cock and ball torture as is, and if they like ballbreaking JRPG autism thats actually a pretty excellent one

speaking of off-topic first-person dungeon crawlers that no one has played, you guys ever heard of mazes of fate? its a GBA first person dungeon crawling ARPG. with actual dialogue trees and decisions/consequences. you can even make a custom class ffs
made by some no-name argentinian studio who primarily made shovelware
havent beat it yet but so far its one of the coolest/weirdest GBA games ive never heard mentioned anywhere by anyone

DONT play the DS remake they accidentallyed the whole combat system

All this dungeon crawler talk makes me remember DoomRL and DoomRLArsenal. Time to fire it up.

>>10655449
Looks neat, and I've already got it on my flashcart.
I'll probably check it out next time I'm on a road trip, unless I forget and just play through Doom with the homebrew port again.

>>10655487
the Descent port is pretty awesome too.

>>10655365
literal first result on Google for "Doom strange journey", anon
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=58310

For the nth time
Strange Journey ISN'T a FPS Game, it is a fucking Dungeon Crawler.
And i am tired of Morons trying to force this meme that SMT is a First Person Shooter game, when is not.

>>10655550
Ty for putting up with a retard

>>10655559
no one thinks its a fucking shooter retard
its megaten

>>10655487
it is neat
its basically eye of the beholder on GBA
really strange idea, but certainly a novel one. i dont think theres a single other first person crawler on the system

the english translation is a lil wonky at points, but esp -> eng isnt nearly as much of a leap as jp -> eng so its usually just minor grammar stuff
PROTIP: dont steal grandmas gold at the beginning

can a linedef have zero sidedefs associated with it, and what happens if this is done?

>>10655680
It creates mustard gas.

Is this the Doom II/Final Fantasy VIII of Death albums?

>>10653989
>>10653985
What's the big deal with this, cockblock? your wad is not gonna to be the next eviternity. are you looking for a cacoward recognition or something? it's been almost two fucking years, just release the damn thing.

Serenity II aka Eternity, the second Hermans & Nathrath 1994 episode is now standalone for wadsmoosh, joining Serenity and Kelsey's Return to Phobos in an easy to play package. The first misc episode is also finding its own way (a 9 maps collection of the very first wads in release order which if everything goes right will probably end with UAC_DEAD as the final map since it released in june 1994)

https://litter.catbox.moe/z92bha.pk3

>>10655386
Be wary of the Babuin.

Huh, I thought sector tags were 8-bit but it turns out they're 16-bit. Useful..

>>10655386
>>10655760
>Babuin latches onto your dick
>need to punch him and shake him around so he lets go
>need to use the Second Flesh and wound stapler to repair your penis afterwards (just make sure to remove your pants first)
>Blue Potion can heal aggravated wang damage

>>10655701
I'm not sure what that implies but I like Death!

>>10655337

https://streamable.com/c2z5kb

>>10655817
nice cock and ball torture session

>>10655849
>nice cock and ball torture session
You mean a terry trap?

>>10655817

>>10655764
on a similar theme, can there be more than 32768 or 65535 linedefs in a map? The Doom Wiki doesn't say.

so nice to see a room like this

>>10655997
I think the convex corners should be a bit less rounded. And a central pillar pillar or tube would look cool.

my map is getting so big it lags on saving it, is it time to stop?

>>10655130
There are levels where they trick you into thinking there are floors over floors by quickly and silently raising/lowering them depending on where you are

>writing a paper with figures to go along with my map
accumulating nerds point here
>>10656178
nah, keep going. just make sure it runs well

>>10655345
Anon I'm saying this as a huge megatenfag that'll play anything that's been translated, even the NES duology. It's a specific brand of autism that most people here won't have the patience for.

By the way, what happened to that anon making the Ultima inspired dungeon crawler WAD?

>>10653596

bro what the hell happened to nerd culture. it used to be kino. now it's this

>>10656369
>now
that was 8 years ago

>>10655705
Who fucking knows at this point. It was bad enough when he was posting progress in fucking /vip/ of all places without telling us, but now that thread is gone entirely and we've somehow gotten even less transparent than before. We need Repugnus back.

>>10656395
I honestly don't think it's going to come out, at least not by his hands anyway.

new version of freedoom is out

>>10656620
I guess now people will at least stop thinking that RMS' head got put back in.

>>10656620
What the fuck is that music from E1M1? The old one was much better

>>10656648
They have some furry tranny redoing most of the music

>>10656648
Welcome to FreeDoom, even by free software project standards they make point of taking out good stuff and replacing it with worse shit, or fighting to keep awful shit in there.

The gib sound Kegan uses in some of his stuff is the old FreeDoom gib sound that they replaced with an awful one that sounds like somebody having diarrhoea.

>>10656672
>they replaced with an awful one that sounds like somebody having diarrhoea.
Because it IS someone having diarrhea
t. recorded it

>>10656628
>>10656672
every time someone mentions freedoom you complain about RMS and the gib sound

>>10656620
>lots of SFX still sounds like poopy
>Some midis changed for the worst
>More unnecessary map decorations, why?
>Lots of the weapons sprites (especially the fists, shotgun, SSG) were downgraded, they just look terrible now
make this shit stop.

>>10656714
I think the weapon sprites look fine

>>10656648
>The most kino midi from this shitty wad was taken out.
what a shame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x7EKzFUM7o

>>10656728
That one is still in but they moved it to E1M5

>>10656178
No. It's time to change the source port.

>>10656620
Is there actually a sizeable number of people who take things like Freedoom and Libre Quake seriously?
I can't imagine it not being obvious that these are clout-fueling projects by deranged narcissists. You can't take the free, open source autism seriously when it pertains to 25+ year old videos games that anyone with an IQ over 50 can find online for free with no consequences.

>>10656620
>new version of freedoom
Is there any point to continue development on this (and somehow make it worse), outside of the rare moralfag that can't afford a 30 year old game?

>>10656178
keep going, technology will eventually catch up

What are some good wads to play in coop? Especially with a silly mod like BYOC.

>>10656369

>>10656743
I just think the maps are neat, never used it as an IWAD but it's fun to play through.

>>10656743
These are made so that people publishing commercial games don't get assraped for forgetting to remove 1 texture from original games

>>10656680
You missed the spider mastermind sprites and a fuckton of the music and some other shit but well done, you noticed the easy examples of a much bigger issue with the project.
>>10656743
>>10656747
Can't distribute pirated wads inside other shit, can't use them for the basis of stuff without having what happened to The Forgotten Sprites either.
>>10656776
What I do is turf out everything but the maps, textures and decorations and use them as maps.

Is there a Western themed TC for quake 1?
Just finished Raven's Keep. Great map but I wish the secrets were more obtuse because half the time I thought to myself "that was a secret?" when the message popped up.

Noshahr Canals but it's a Build Engine map

>>10653805
Looks pretty dang good man, I'll check it out

>>10654946
An armor shard or light amp goggles

>>10654946
>>10656869
>An armor shard or light amp goggles
An armor bonus or light amp goggles trapped to teleport in half the map's monster count

where the discord

>>10656904
Dis is in E3M8. We still gotta find the cord tho

>>10656952
sprites are such a turn off

>>10656904
That's rather nebulous. I'll assuming your talking about the SW project though, and there is none currently. Dudes got upset with Discord segmentation during 500ml, which was understandable but it really helped move shit along. I'm still deliberating on making one or a telegram group or whatever for project coordination. I'd like some opinions on what people would prefer.

>>10656952
the notion that zombiemen might regain an ounce of sentience is terrifying

>>10656959
the what what ?

>>10656869
Thanks, I made an update that adds a new section + giga secrets so you'll have something new to discover, will upload in 5 mins.
https://streamable.com/uz4l8i

>>10656959
>Dudes got upset with Discord segmentation during 500ml
It's what happens to Discords.
> I'm still deliberating on making one or a telegram group or whatever for project coordination.
Fuck everything, reject modernity and embrace IRC.

>>10656983
Was there really any problem with 500ml discord? The project released. That's more than 94 prprpptrprs can say.
>IRC
Ah yes let's use a super niche communication platform for an already super niche project, great idea. Are you even making a map?

>>10656959
Just try to, if possible, choose a service where people without accounts can read what's posted.

>>10657019
>'s use a super niche communication platform for an already super niche project
t. used

>>10656983
how about #vr at irc.frag-net.com? the network is basically all retro fps nerds

guys I found a page where we can post our stuff anonymously,
it's called 4chan.org/vr/

>>10657052
That'll never work.

>>10657052
>>10657054
4channel is slow are requires a dumb captcha

>>10657052

why not just make a /vr//Doom/ discord server you chuds ?

>>10657052
Wild
Do you think it will catch on?

>>10657052

>>10657052

>>10653805
>>10656869
Updated map, including 3 CBT filled fights and some nasty secrets

https://www.mediafire.com/file/oii0qqxjms8daid/DevilsMalifiCe.wad/file

>>10657086
thats a really shitty showcase screenshot lmaoo

>>10654409
me too, can i be your friend?

>Le vanilla doom
Lmao this nigga believing we gonna play his dull looking garbo

>>10657074
We did and it turned into a Halo server lmao

>>10657117
>117
sigh.
Well, you cannot expect a bunch of people to just talk about a sole topic every single day, don't you ?

>Checked 3d work files in Turok Anons mega link
>Adon mesh has complex rig, removable armor, and shape keys for face rigging
>initially meant to be used in a DooM mod
>This was all made long before the Turok 3 Remaster came out
I'm... actually surprised

>>10657137
>cracked bonus.rar
>found "prototype" model that's almost as complex as Adon model
> 09062000

>>10657119
>>117
kek
But what happened was we just posted about doom in the thread and the discord was our off topic storm drain.

>>10657137
>>10657159
is this a smutbase variation?

>>10657086
Play this on 1 difficulty below your usual, its HARD.

>>10657169
The Danielle one might be, but the Adon mesh that's fully animated (complete with facial and finger animations if you look closely enough) is the one that's been put in the DooM wad file

WHY MY DOOM DISCORD SERVERS NEVER LAST!

>>10657194
this is your punishment for being a proprietary software used

>>10657194
what do you mean by "last"?

>10657194
>10657198

>>10657194
Because you're so fucking gay
and potentially a pederast too

>>10657074
because I don't want anons to see my lewd goblin pfp

>Graven still 6/10 on Steam
DO SOMETHING

>>10657253
what did this guy do

>>10655559
Is Kings Field retro FPS?>>10655559

>>10654946
Archvile

>>10657303
No Anon, King's Field is not a retro FPS.
...Shadow Tower is not a retro FPS either.

>>10657137
>>10657190
it can be ported to Turok 3 Remaster? because i would play T3 right now because of that

>>10657326
>MechWarrior
>Descent
I'm at least fine with these. Things like Thief is where it gets funky for me but I don't mind people discussing it.

Dungeon keeper 2 is an FPS

>>10656869
>Noshahr Canals
good times

>>10657337
first person slapper

>>10657329
The 3d meshes themselves absolutely, but not the animation rigs. Someone on the Tk3:R Steam forums might be interested in porting them if you bring it up.

>>10656620
What are the red wires for?

>>10657398
To look 90s techy and kewl

>>10657398
Is that a ladder?

>>10657419
It's a cyborg ladder.

>>10657394
The turok 3 tools for blender are out https://behemothprogrammer.github.io/TurokBlender/

>>10657507
https://behemothprogrammer.github.io/Turok3Blender/index.html

>>10653598
Regarding Vertex Relocation,
Can I change the multiplayer flag to drag something from MP into SP?

>>10656743
Libre Quake has some decent modeling/texturing. Sometimes people pull assets out and use them, so there's that. For both projects.
I dunno. Kinda like freedoom.

>>10657336
>Things like Thief is where it gets funky for me
I don't know the proper term, but I think this modern "midtex" trick is kinda neat? Looks a bit more complex than doom though.

On the subject, I have this ancient version of freedoom in Doom GLES I've been moving between phone installs since like 2012. The music is awful but kind of catchy and I've never heard it anywhere else.

>>10657656
Mind sharing it via upload?

>>10657159

>>10657656
On the freedoom gitgub they have all the old versions dating back to 2002

>>10657398
Quite abstract innerworkings this gun has, I for one couldn't make sense of the reloading animation. Nonsense aside it's original still, can't say the same for the BFG which I believe I've seen in Hell-Forged since long.

>>10657746
That SSG has been in freedoom for awhile but they edited it for the latest release

What the hell happened to Quaddicted?

playing doom coop with my wife and it's really fun!

>>10657664
Now that I've actually had the chance to extract the apk and see what wads are inside, I see now that it was just requiem.wad that Doom GLES queued up first and not freedoom. Sounds way better too now that I'm playing it on something other than a phone.
Here it is if you still want to take a look. Seems like the build I have is from 2014.
https://files.catbox.moe/p8xyiq.apk

>>10657850
It is. Hexen is better coop too.

>>10657864
I'm out at the moment, so it's not some obscure beta ost for freedoom?

>>10657847
don't ask about it better to ignore it

>>10657985
lol wut it's not some dirty subject
>>10657847
Spirit (site head) is moving the forums over to a more modern look even though nobody asked. That's it really. It's still the largest Quake archive and if you care about anything there you'll download things yourself in case Spirit one day says fuck it all and just nukes it.

>>10657991
>it's not some dirty subject
and? somethings in life are better unquestioned
it's that simple just move on and do things as usual until something terrible happens and do something else instead

>>10657998
>just don't talk about things
Quit being weird. He had a simple question, it had a simple answer.

do I suck at doom or is the second episode of adventure of square really this hard?

>>10657159
Post a link to the uncensored shot, I wanna see if they actually did low poly coochie.

>>10657398
Why did they replace the SSG fucking AGAIN? The previous sci-fi one was fine, yet atrociously ugly assets remain unfixed, and this shit has been going on for DECADES now.

It truly is a cloutmill for narcissists, anon is right.

Uneven ceilings are hard to make look good.

>>10658070
It's a Barbie doll down there, but there are nips. DL it for yourself >>10620808

>>10657850
>arino visits /vr/

Any anons with potato PCs can weigh in on vkDoom's performance improvements for them? I'm making a game on GZDoom and it relies on GZDoom features heavily. From my testing, VKDoom is a consistent improvement all around, at least +20 free FPS everywhere. Even on my iGPU I can hit over 60 FPS on most levels, but I have a powerful CPU so I don't know how much of that data scales back.

anyone got a decent archvile gib animation? cant find any good ones

>>10653596
so I finally got done with TNT: Evilution and here are my thoughts.
>map26
not a fan of this one. I don't remember much about it besides the loop back to the start. Honestly it kind of forgettable to me. With that one out of the way ends the bad slog for TNT. Maps 21 to 26 sucks with some sucking more than others.
>map 27
Finally a good map again! Not only that but one of my favorites from this wad. The encounters are fun and frantic. Love the design of the map. shame that you don't actually go to the mountain.
>map 28
Another one that I liked. I really like the three way you can go. Each section has a fun challenge. Plus I like that its shorter map too.
>map 29
I like it but its weirdly easy for a penultimate map. I feel like it should have been place earlier in the map set. Its a fine map but it is so out of place that it made me laugh.
>map 30
Thus the end! I really like the opening puzzle which I wish Doom would do more. The rest of the map is good. The boss fight is better than the one in 2. A fine way to end the wad.

>>10657721
They've also expunged a lot of the older ones because some maps and music were plagiarized, lol.

Hi ya old geezers. I’m thinking of playing Half-Life for the first time. Both the first one and the second one.
Is there something I need to get beforehand? Like any mod or program to make it run or look better on modern PC or something? Or am I good to go by simply downloading them from Steam?

>>10658454
Half-Life runs really well just from Steam on modern PCs. It got patched recently iirc

>>10658458
i wish Gearbox was this cool and patched Blue Shift and Opposing Force

>>10658454
play them as they are on steam

if after a while you start feeling like they lack a bit of oompfh, download "hl1 mmod" and "hl2 mmod" (both on steam as well) and play those instead

>>10656178
why contain it?

>>10655705
is there a playable wad of this somewhere?

>>10658454
Just keep in mind that the point of both games is to keep the player guessing. They're not great shooters really but almost each new level will have a new gimmick of some sort. How much you enjoy yourself depends on how much you like one level's idea. Less so in the second one perhaps.

>>10657052
>let's check it
>oh my god

>>10657159
this is a christian board

>>10658462
Do they not inherit any changes from base HL?

>>10656620
more like freedumb

Does gzdoom only play wav files with specific properties?
I can't get it to play at all and I swear yesterday it fucking worked
pic related has a bitrate of 705 kbit/s, not sure if that matters.
setting gzdoom's samplerate doesn't seem to help

>>10658454
With the recent anniversary, Valve actually updated Half-Life for the first time in a very long while, fixing a lot of bugs and broken shit, so now it's actually decent again.

>>10653747

>>10658650
doesn't it play mp3? and possibly ogg and opus?

>>10658656
You drew that?

>>10658657
I guess I worded it weirdly, I'm just asking if gzdoom plays wav files but only with specific properties.
I'm aware of the other file types it plays, but the wav file in question doesn't play at all and has different properties to the other wav files of the mod I'm playing.

Is there a friction property for func_walls in Quake? I want to make a ramp you can just walk on like Serious Sam, but in Quake, players slowly slide down slopes when stationary.

>>10654380
>>10654395
>>10654416

>>10653985
>>10653989
Damn these maps look sexy, choppie I promise I'm not mad and I'll still like you, just release the thing, I want my map out, it was made two years ago and no one played it yet
>>10654558
>>10654635
Same, but I don't mind since I never played plutonia and mine doesn't really look the plutonia style besides two rooms
>>10654302
>Exploding lips/Mayhem Mansion
Fucking kino game/wad. I recommend going down the exploding lips/bardo games rabbit hole, lot of weird online new age cult shit - including a song based on their decalogue displayed on one wall in the original game. The guy who made lips is still active online with his weird sect, nothing disturbing, just an old guy milking money from people with healing crystals, spirituality platitudes and level editing tutorials

>>10658670
She sucks like a dyson.

>>10658659
Nah, some deviant artist

>>10655339
If FIREBLU is like pineapple on pizza, then what is STARTAN2?

>>10658462
Gearbox hasn't had anything todo with the expansions since they shipped them.

>>10658660
I've had no issues with wav files. I think you've messed something up in your sndinfo lump. Get in the habit of having a full path to the sound file, and remember the $limit property.

>>10658650
jesus fucking christ, how does this shitty piece of shit of a program ONLY READ FILES WITH 8 CHARACTERS IN GODDAMN 2024??

>>10658831
use full paths you stupid bitch

>>10658664
Anyone? Been googling and it seems like it isn't a thing, but still hoping. It's not a big deal, I can just use stairs, but it's also because I've always disliked this about slopes in Quake.

>>10658454
Don't play at FPS higher more 60 (preferably ~50)
It's `fps_max 60` in the console.
Disable auto aim in the options.
Play the Hazard Course before the campaign.
Use your head.

>>10658462
All official expansions and official mods received the same updates.

>>10657845
Map?

>>10658664
>>10658849
https://quake.by/tutorials/?id=67

>>10658941
>QuakeC
FUCK. No maphacks?

>Half-Life the way Valve Did
>Serious Sam the way Croteam Did
>Duke Nukem the way 3D Realms Did

>>10658951
that's how quake is

If I had known you guys liked the Turok games I would have came here more often when the remasters were new.

Anyways, am I the only one who likes to play HL1 with texture filtering set to nearest neighbor / off? It has a look to it.

>>10658961
Fuck. Thanks anon.

>>10658978
i would not touch it, quake players expect that behavior

>>10658969
everyone likes Doom, Quake, Turok, Perfect Dark and Goldeneye. That's the whole point of this board.
Just make a thread if want to talk about Turok.

>>10658969
I play HL1 with texture filtering on.

>>10658969
>If I had known you guys liked the Turok games I would have came here more often when the remasters were new.
I’ve had bad luck trying to talk about other vr shooters outside of this thread, even though this place isn’t perfect.
>Anyways, am I the only one who likes to play HL1 with texture filtering set to nearest neighbor / off? It has a look to it.
Is it the only one you play with the filtering off or some such? Anons talk about filter preferences here frequently, but you’re not the first posting about HL1’s filtering in particular.

>>10658985
Figured out a solution: Just clip textured stairs clipping into the geometry of the slope.

>Perfect Dark decompiled on PC with high fps and network play

My fucking dream finally came true.

>>10658484
There's a beta version in the OUR WADS rentry
https://rentry.org/8ca3061522e0#classic-doom

>>10659108
>[September 2022 Soon]
lol

>>10659149
He swore blind he'd have a release out by the end of last June or something.

I don't know what he's even still fucking about with.

What was the straw that broke the camel's back in regards to 94 protons?

>>10659092
How is it different from the GEPD 1964 pack?

>>10659213
For most people, it was probably when he went radio silent for months and it turns out he was posting progress to /vip/ all along without telling anyone.

>>10659216
It can run up to 120hz with better input response as it isn't having to wait for the next frame for frame buffer emulation.

>>10658873
I always played with autoaim on, what's wrong with it?

>>10659313
Not him but how does the autoaim work in Half-Life with its headshot damage multipliers? Does it assist with headshots?

>>10658925
Re:Mobilize Jam 1: Re:Collections
Civic Ascent (rmj1_shadesmaster)

>>10659092
it's just dm with no projectile weapons

is shadows of the empire an fps?

>>10659434
It’s a 1st or 3rd person shooter, the choice is yours. Dark Forces 1 is strictly 1st-person while the Jedi Knight games by default switch from 1st-person shooting to 3rd-person lightsaber melee.

>>10659423
I guess it just selects the bodygroup nearest to the crosshair as a target.

>>10653596
bMouse got a new fork, which improves mouse look by retaining left over values for integer division, and applying it for the next calculation.
https://www.gog.com/forum/blood_series/a_replacement_for_bmouse

>>10659224
he was working on the wad with a group of people on discord or some shit with no info or progress about it since then but a fucking weapon showcase and a few screenshots..

I'm sure he's wasting two years of his time tweaking anons' maps with more detailed bullshit nonsense or whatever

>>10653596
Any anons know where I can get Duke3D + official expansions that works with Raze? Most I download, raze won't recognize them.

>>10659108
>"Records of a longest pilgrimage, in search of ephemeral made eternal"
>With a lost prelude of Mokou-anon getting up on his feet, be well.
Has fore/vr/ lead appeared any time recently? Could've left a memo or something

>>10659579
I think this one is safe to wrap up ourselves, these are his last left notes https://rentry.org/forevralone

>>10659579
>>10659585
He was here just a few days ago.

Hey Kegan, I think you accidentally dropped this at goodwill.

>>10659627
it doesn't even fire darts out of the mouth, lame.

ALRIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS, IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!

>>10659658
I kinda thought so too actually.
I figured I'd take a picture though because it might make good texture reference. Scale it down, warp it, clean it up... Something.

>>10659663
Slowly getting started on the lava gun proper. Got a name for it too: The Magmauler.

>>10659670
Maybe, though I think the model I made is serving well as a reference.

>>10659663
done some more work on the sword. Blue and red line denote world position of hilt and blade tip. I'll do collision detection from these positions next.

>>10659693
I'm amazed you're going this in depth on the starting melee weapon.
Though I certainly appreciate it, first impressions are important and I fucking love me a good melee.

>>10659701
I just really like how melee swinging feels in Thief/System shock 2. It's an uphill battle against everything the engine and sprite assets, admittedly.

>>10659712
Well seeing as the blade is going to be handled with your fancy visual effects, the only extra sprites you'd really need are some hands. Do you have that big sheet of Doomguy hands that's floating around? Pic related.

>>10659721
I mean like, faking a sense of smooth 3D motion and rotation with sprites in general is hard.

But funnily enough, doing it with 3D models would place different constraints since there's some dumb limitations on what you can do with screen space/psprite models.

I need a mod that has stick grenades with a very satisfying overhead throw animation and arc.

>>10659449
I’ve never tested it so I’ll try testing it later tonight, maybe even with some webms. If it does something like automatically “aimassist” towards the center-mass of an enemy, I can seeing it being a hindrance when trying to shoot the face.
>>10659693
This is becoming my new favorite upcoming mod.

>>10659663
I made MAP30 for Vertex Relocation.
I was going to do another map for another commitment, but didn't.

>>10659847
I love when people make floating cubes out of those textures

>>10653596
dl halo and man its pretty shit.
Thank god for the Doom Halo mod.

if only it was MP-possible.

>>10659876
If there was a brown version of the slimes from GMOTA...

>>10659675
>Maybe, though I think the model I made is serving well as a reference.
Seems to be working okay.

>>10659902
Halo has fun combat, shit FOV, shit level design (few exceptions), fun story.

>>10659429
What's dm?
And there are projectile weapons in PD.

I finished quake remobilize.
I ended on this map, which was really cool visually. It didn't really have much in the way of new mobility except for climbing (and the few trampolines were as annoying as ever). I didn't like the layout at all because it involved quite a bit of backtracking to get from the silver key to the door.

Overall I have mixed feelings on the mod. Maybe the map jam made better use of the new features.

>>10659932
new one?
idk, weapons are so hit or miss to be fun. yeah. I heard mixed things about the open world part. MP is free at least but free shit is still shit.

>>10659610
Nothing on my radar, but if you say so. I thought he ditched it, boards not being longer cool and all.

>>10660027
>boards not being longer cool and all
What did he mean by this?

>>10660034
Not that anon, but I was under the impression he got himself balls deep in some Discord circlejerk.

>>10660065
Waifulead? He got laid out by a car accident, which is why he hasn't been all that active.

>>10660034
In simplest of theories, a newbie comes in to lead a project and then feels that's he's too much for surrounding foul lingua and pissing contests.

I keep my fragile hopes intact though >>10660065

>>10660065
>>10660073
You people come up with the weirdest fucking theories sometimes.

>>10660075
Making up bullshit is a really effective way to cause havoc.

>>10660075

>>10660073
>a newbie comes in to lead a project and then feels that's he's too much for surrounding foul lingua and pissing contests.
It's also not exactly the most prestigious thing to be a lead of, even good stuff from here or stuff barely even connected to here gets shat on by a fair chunk of the community because 4chan.

>>10660065
>>10660073
Where the fuck are you people getting this shit?

>>10660073
Newbie?

>>10660075
desu kinda glad waifulead cancelled the project or whatever, I would cringe so hard to see people playing that fucking joe-ilya's pony fetish map

>>10660104
But people could play it for the PLOT.

>>10660108
yeah but the pony map kinda ruins it

>>10660112
Pick it out, you fussy baby.

>>10660104
It should've been rejected just for the author being who he is desu, and this also goes for Ad Mortem.

>Perfect Dark's weapons
Name one game that has a bigger arsenal.

Carrington Institute:
Falcon 2
Falcon 2 silenced
Falcon 2 scoped
RC-P120
Laptop Gun
AR34
Sniper Rifle
Crossbow
Laser

dataDyne:
DY357 Magnum
DY357-LX
CMP150
Dragon
K7 Avenger
SuperDragon
Shotgun
Devastator
Rocket Launcher
Combat Knife

Chesluk Industries:
MagSec 4
Cyclone
Tranquilizer
Psychosis Gun

Maian:
Phoenix
Callisto NTG
FarSight XR-20

Skedar:
Mauler
Reaper
Slayer

Misc:
Grenade
N-Grenade
Timed Mine
Proximity Mine
Remote Mine

>all have a unique secondary function

>>10660146
I fucking love the wrist laser and the tranquilizer pistol, it has a cool reload.

What does the "improved hit detection" option in nugget do?

>>10660157
I assume it makes the hit detection more normal instead of the weird blockmap system they used with Doom back in the DOS era, which would sometimes cause your hitscans to phase through monsters depending where they're standing in the map, and probably makes the fist attack just SLIGHTLY longer so you can properly punch fat monsters.

>>10660162
Whoa it can just get rid of the blockmap? Neat, thought that was way too fancy for the boom derived ports

>>10660163
I'm just completely guessing here. I do not know the extent of features of Nugget. I'm just going off assumptions from GZDoom, which I'm certain has the same option as well.
I could be completely wrong and talking out of my ass here though. So take my posts with some salt.

>>10660146
>Farsight
oh man, the most bullshit weapon ever
>can look through walls
>can SHOOT through walls
>if that wasn't enough, it tracks too

>>10659932
I discovered Halo has a fairly active mod scene since the PC ports came out and played through the first on Legendary with KBM + higher FOV+ this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/halothemasterchiefcollection/mods/292
It made me realize that the game itself has a fairly solid base that was held back by some weird design choices.

>>10660157
>>10660162
>>10660163
>>10660165
It's still using the blockmap, just with a finer grain, so to say.

>>10660248
Still neat

>>10660235
>weird design choices
That's a funny way to say "repetitive as hell"

>>10660260
The levels themselves are plodding and empty because they were designed for a game in a different genre, and Bungie ran out of time so they just copy pasted them all in reverse for the second half of the campaign, but I had a good time with the actual combat and realized I could consistently dodge projectiles and not need to immediately hide behind a rock every time my shields were low.

>>10658960
>Duke Nukem the way 3D Realms Did
isn't that just alien world order?

>>10659556
raze is weird.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=71962
this might be of use to you. it worked for me.

>>10660123
his ad mortem map isn't terrible but i still skip it because he is insufferable

>>10659968
First one. Halo 2 was better imo, but I was playing coop so that prolly helped. Haven't played halo 3 outside of mp in college. And haven't touched one since.
>>10660235
That's good to know for the future. I started a new game on the Xbox recently though so I'll probably stick with that.

>>10660091
Schizo-divination.

BuildGDX C++ port
It's a pipedream I imagine every day.

>>10660368
honestly what is the benefit of using BuildGDX over Raze or nblood/eduke?

>>10660075
I have this theory that waifulead didn't continue the project because of joe-ilya's maps

>>10660423
I have a theory that mac and chop are tsundere gay lovers for each other and despite the former being an abrasive and unlikable cunt, he's actually the bottom bitch in the bed.

Come on anon, if he had a problem with joe's maps he would just axe 'em.

>>10660440
>I have a theory that mac and chop are tsundere gay lovers for each other and despite the former being an abrasive and unlikable cunt, he's actually the bottom bitch in the bed.
that could be true though, two years wasted pozzing each other on discord without showing any progress of the project here

>>10660423
>>10660440
>waifulead
>mac
>chop
>joe
Who?

>>10660423
I sure wouldn't want to deal with that Doomer Board reject trying to forcibly replace other people's maps with his.

>>10660440
it was clearly a joke, but fuck joe-ilya

Yes.

>find out romero made sigil 2
>still using doom 1 as a template and not 2

what's his problem? boy do I love using the underpowered shotgun!

>>10660569
If the maps are well thought out, you don't miss the SSG. But boy you feel the missing enemies really quick.

>>10660440
H-hot.

>>10660347
Yeah first three was kino. I don’t like infinite MP. I find it boring and annoying.

Why does Duke Nukem get killed by doors

What should I play next?

Just finished Hellevator

>>10660679
try mordeth 2

>>10660679
The answer is always Hell Ground

>>10659438
Heh

>>10660581
That you, chop?
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/filename/sweating-duke.png/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9145216/#9145675

>>10660761
FYI when you save images with 4chanx installed they come with filenames