/vr/ - Retro Games

This one was for me.

This is when the game starts to get tough.

It's not THAT hard, really. I spent a bit of time internalizing the pattern (about 20 minutes) and had no problem after that.

>>1065208

This is more like it - I've never cleared that stage before. I always ended up skipping to 8 instead.

The only thing I don't like about Yellow Devil is that it's a really tedious fight. I re-learn the pattern and get it down after a fight or two, but it takes like two or three minutes to beat him. For a boss with only one form, that's an eternity.

>>1065210
And then the falling blocks in CV3.

>>1065323
I'd give the 'running into a brick wall while doing well beforehand' award to this guy.

>>1065331
I remember never losing by anything but decision to this faggot. I just couldn't put him down fast enough.

Ninja Gaiden stage 6. The rest of the game isn't too bad, but then you get here, and it becomes apparent why the game it so infamous.

>>1065197
You obviously do not know about the Select Glitch.

>>1065390
Come on bro, who doesn't? It was meant for people who tried it legit.

>>1065390
I wouldn't say a glitch is a legitimate tactic, but the boss is so badly designed I wouldn't fault someone for using it.

>>1065430
>so badly designed
What's badly designed about it? Personally, I'd say the Yellow Devil is one of the most creative bosses of the NES era.

>>1065430
I feel like they wanted to do a bit more for him but had to rush it out to meet deadlines.

Mega Man 7 has a insane difficulty spike with the last Dr. Wily fight.

so many megaman related posts without posting this? step it up /vr/!

>>1065451
ugh, I just forgot about that.

The other water dungeon reporting for duty!

>>1065468
Haha, what? Just fill up the combo bar and he's dead.

>>1065430
How is it badly designed? Don't be mad because you're bad

>>1065604
Even if you don't take a single hit, it takes forever to kill without the glitch and it has very few openings to actually take damage. Even lowering its health by a few notches would be a major improvement. Also.

>u mad?
Don't bring that shit here.

Yellow devil is megaman 1 right? I just got the game. I've been going through the numbered games on the nes, MM 2 -6. Now that I have 1, after I beat 5 should I do 6 or go back to 1?

>>1065610
What about that indicates bad design?

>>1065615
Play whatever you feel like. Why do people ask this question?

>>1065615
6 is shit because you can't jump mid-slide

Play 1, it's superior

>>1065331
Popinski was always really easy for me. It was the Bald Bull rematch right after that always pissed me off.

>>1065197
/thread

>>1065621
I want the opinions of others who have already played both. It's called social interaction. I'll eventually play both anyway.

>>1065619
Because without the electric weapon he goes from Boss to a Chore, and even with it he does the same damage to you as you do to him, but with multiple chances and very narrow windows to avoid harm.

>>1065621

Because having the "right" opinion of big name franchises like Final Fantasy, Zelda, Mega Man, Castlevania and the like is way more important than actually picking out whatever games you think look cool and enjoying them yourself. Obviously!

>>1065637
Fuck I hate that game.

>>1065650
What about that indicates bad design?
If you had equal opportunities to hit and he did the same damage than how would you even lose, considering he has an observable pattern?

>>1065667
I just figure play them in chronological order, and draw your own conclusions. I'm not trying to stifle discussion, but...fuck it, do whatever you want people.

>>1065637
man, that's one of the easy levels.

>>1065481
I can't believe people complain about the Water Temple with this shit right here.

>>1065214
wow, that sounds like a hard way to memorize it.
I just ignore the top 2 rows since they go over mega man's head and remember that the second block to come from the bottom row is immediately followed by another from the row above it, and do a running 'forward' jump there. For the rest of it I simply jump when I see a block from one of the bottom two rows

In Sonic 2 this is the first boss that doesn't provide any rings should you die. Pretty much a credit eater for the first playthrough.

>>1065880
He is still piss easy on a first run though. Sonic 2 gets an insane jump at Metropolis Zone.

>>1065880
Maybe if you're a retard who can't complete one of the easiest games ever released, sure.

>>1065451
FUCK THAT PART. Im from the nes era and I say that part took 20+ tries. Seriously you have to have your adrenaline pumping to muster the reflexes needed to make those millisecond reaction jumps at the end when they started throwing in low hanging walls and sliding jumps n shit. I broke my controller out of anger and I NEVER do that.

>>1065880
yeah, a game that gives you a continue every 50,000 points, and an extra life every 100 rings, is really hard

>>1065908
and it only takes one post for you to be a faggot.

Band Land, completely kills your momentum just three levels into the game.

>>1065913
oh I remember this
I was about to drop it for being some casual kiddy game for 5 year olds, and then band land came and fucked me in the ass

>>1065650
By that logic, this boss is also badly designed but slightly better

>>1065913
Band Land is easy. What grinds me to a halt each time I play Rayman is the boss in Blue Mountains. Screw you, Mr. Stone.

>first 4 stages aren't too hard, 1 miniboss+1 boss every stage
>stage 5
>normal segment
>a miniboss
>another segment
>another miniboss
>All 4 previous endbosses
>another segment
>both minibosses together
>Drool in his hovercraft
>Drool's robot
And every time you get a game over, you get kicked back to 5-1. At least you get 9 free lives for the robot.

>>1065950
The part where I usually get my shit kicked in is Space Mama's Crater. God damn is she tough.

>>1065197
>Yellow Devil
For some fucking reason I found this guy harder in Powered Up than the original, probably because i wasn't that dedicated.

>>1065481
Fucking jabu is the water temple on crack

Lotus Land Story is probably the easiest of all the Touhou games. Except for the stage 4 boss who is either Reimu or Marisa and who are both really annoying. The final boss is easier than they are.

This fucking tiger

>>1065914
says the guy crying that a game designed for children is too hard.

good job retard, really.

>>1065197
Mega Man X5 is easy as fuck until you get to the first virus stage and are introduced to more infuriating variations of Elec Man's maze and that motherfucker right there. Although at least in X5 you have an incredibly forgiving checkpoint system.

Mortal Kombat games

>>1067015
When she comes around in MK2.....ouch.

Worst bossfight ever

>timed fight
>two bosses at once
>healing powers

Holy shit was this annoying.

>>1065637
that game could have been so much more with out the insane difficulty. it could of been a 'good' version of the TMNT game.

Is this too cliche to warrant a mention?

FF1 - Ice Cave

>>1067370

>>1067251
I thought the very first boss in the game was way harder. Especially since I didn't know I could do the shield thing at first.

>>1067371
>mfw encountering them the first time.

>>1067371
I like how even ProRings / ProCapes can't resist their RUB-touch.

Chapter 4 in Valkyrie Profile is fucking me up. The whole game was pretty breezy up until that point, even bosses rarely managed to take out a single party member, but starting at "Black Dream Tower" or whatever, even the random encounters are just fucking me up every time.

None of the guides even touch on it being more difficult though, so I figure i'm just doing something horribly wrong

The first boss in Wario Land 1 is the hardest boss in the game instead of the usual warm up.

>>1067389
>Ambushed!
>slain
>slain
>slain
>slain
>your party has fallen

>Dead before you even got a turn.
>Somewhere, someone on /v/ spontaneously yells out "git gud" as a reflex.

>>1067417
I never had a problem with him. Now the dude who shoots rocks out of his nose..

I bet you thought pink was pretty easy

>>1065913

Yes. Took me forever to best that level

>>1067371

Haha, remember my stage in MMIII for the Gameboy?

Sure it's the home stretch and all, but this part just isn't fair on any level. Narrow spaces, vertical movement, enemies that can attack you from all angles, invincible enemies blocking platforms you need to use, and being THE ONLY TIMED PART IN THE GAME.

>>1067483
What is that from?

>>1067487
I couldn't believe it when Arino actually made it through that.

>>1067491

Dead Space.

>>1067491

I honestly don't know. Hopefully someone else can chime in, I just had it in my folder...

>>1065323
>>1065331
I always run into a brick wall at Great Tiger. I just can't get the block timing for his Tiger Punches down.

>>1065208
Ice Land is always harder for me than Pipe Land.

Yoshi's Island 5E - Kamek's Revenge

>>1067514
Almost any of those secret levels really, though Kamek is the most annoying by far.

Had D2 been released 6 months earlier I would have gone for Duriel.

Had D2 been released 6 months earlier I would have gone for Duriel.

Also repost because image switch bug.

>>1067547
And what a switch it was.

>>1067547
I hope they never fix that.

>>1065418
>Unregistered Hypercam 2
>South Park 64
Out.

>>1065895
>>1065451

Lol

I beat that in my second try

>>1067318
except no, the difficulty is what kept you playing it. it's way too short if it was any easier.

>>1067547
Fuckin' Duriel, man. Been the end of so many runs.

>>1067318
The sequel was way better IMO.

>>1067552
>>1067553
What the hell did I just miss?

>>1067535
Poochy Ain't Stupid is worse.
Fuck that stage, never beat it as a kid.

>>1067961
I hate Kamek's Revenge the most because after the first part it becomes pure memorization. Don't know when to jump during the skiing part? Missed a coin and have to die to try again. Don't know where all the coins are during the helicopter part? Transformation times out, you die and have to start over. I hate that.

>>1065901
The Quick Man Doc Robot boss is fucking evil.

>>1065451
Never beat this game because of this shit

>>1067547
>>1067569

I had a shit computer back then. By the time I had fully loaded the area, Duriel had already killed me.

>>1065390
i knew about the glitch, but forced myself to do it without it. Now that I've beaten him without glitching, When i replay the game now, I may use it if I get stuck and don't want to put up with his shit.

>>1065880
one of the easiest genesis games, but also, one of my favorite games of all time.

>>1067991
The other ones though are fucking ridiculous, save maybe Flash Man.

Besides, MM3 pretty much had E-tanks raining from the skies.

>>1065210
you're totally right

that stage is pretty damn tough, I'd say the boss was the first challenging one as well

holy fuck, stop attacking

Difficulty jumps.
Heh heh, "jumps".

4 easy stages, one boss and 2 bonus levels. No sweat.
Then this shit happens.
Motherfucking boat can fly, why did it land here and decide to jump waterfalls?
The worst part is, the stage only takes something like 10 seconds to complete if you actually manage the jumps.

>>1067251

OMFG I died so much here. IIRC it's a timed fight right?

>>1065481
I never had much trouble with it, honestly.

Eagle's Tower on the other hand, was pure hell.

>>1068280
Only the boss really. But great honorable mention.

>>1068284
At least Jabu Jabu's Belly didn't have that stupid iron ball you habe to carry. Fuck that.

>>1067052

fuck that bitch with her air punch and that damn sonar wave thing.

and milleena with her damn teleport kick. fuck both dem bitches

>>1065451
I'd judge that segment as about half as hard as the Battletoads jetbikes, which is to say, insane.

>>1068280
lol, I had so much trouble as a kid I just moved on to turtle rock.

got the flame rod, beat the boss, went back to eagle tower and killed the fucker in like 3 hits with it.

>>1065650
I agree about the health thing. Both you and him should deal more damage to each other. That solves the issue.

I hate fighting bosses that feel like hitting a wet sponge with a toy hammer.

>>1068382
They already fixed it in 3 by letting you get multiple shots in per eye opening and adding a second, faster transitioning attack. Though that attack was bugged because that's how MM3 rolls.

>>1065197
You guys are bitches.
Yellow devil's pattern on MM1 is easy. Easy to fuck up, too. But still easy. You analog controller kids never did understand the difference between holding a button and tapping it for different jump heights.

Argh. It's challenge to not get hit by him, but it's not unfair by any means.

>>1065481
Fuck that dungeon and that game. Seasons in my opinion is the best handheld LoZ game.

It took me a few lives to learn his pattern than I beat him with the mega buster.

I dont know what his weakness is but I imagine if you used the right weapon it wouldnt be very hard at all

>>1068781
>it's not unfair
Nobody even said it was.

>>1065197
I've never managed to beat this guy on the nes. I only did it with savegames on an emulator :(

>>1068907
I beat it. It's just a matter stopping and taking time to think where you went wrong and observing patterns.

I've wasted so many lives in these little ships.

>Ctrl+F
>Blaster Master
>No one mentioned the fucking unfair odd bosses.

World 3's boss was a warning shot. World 5's was a fucking chore with anything less than a full Gun Meter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0S89sQ8jbI

Fucking. Chore. And the enemy spawns were cheap on that level. And then there's world 8, but by that point you're numb to the pain.

>>1065331
This is the correct answer.

>>1067348
>It doesn't get any easier from there

Hell I don't think I've even legit beaten this game. Fuck.

This guy

It's kind of early into the game, but if you don't have enough bombs this is a living hell.

>>1066989
Fuck this is the king of difficulty jumps

>>1066989

The only reason this is hard is because you don't yet have magic of any sort, and he spends 2/3 of his time up on that fucking sidewall. As soon as this is over and you get to Undine's temple the difficulty calms right back down again.

Now the base of the Mana Tree on the other hand...

>>1071038
Is that the chainsaw dudes?
I always try to get my friends to play that game but we get a game over and they get burnt out on playing any more.

What's that? You want THIS rune?

>>1071040
game?

>>1071081
Mother 3

>>1065197
This guy, on hard, when the rest of your party is dead and without taking damage.

>>1065913
That game keeps throwing difficulty spikes at you every single level starting from Band Land. I can not beat it without cheat codes.

>>1071040
The jealous bass has to be were I felt my first difficulty spike, took me forever to beat this asshole.

>>1072238

Mother 3 ain't retro.

>>1072238
Jealous Bass (and the whole attic) was definitely the jump, though the Pork soldiers + Masked Man was pretty hard, too. In Hard difficulty, it's the dang Pork Tank. I grinded Salsa for what felt like ages.

>>1072386
N64 is totally retro.

>>1071038
that level is pretty easy.

It's the one that's a long as fuck circular pathway with the ants who can climb over walls that's a real buttfucker.

>>1072271

Cackletta wasn't hard at all.

>>1065436
seconded and thirded, my good anon

>>1065451
I never found that hard. It was frustrating, but not hard. I thought it was just cheap level design.

>>1065610
Dude, use the rolling cutter. That's his weakness. Each hit takes off 3 bars. You just can't be a pussy. You gotta know his pattern and stay in the middle of the screen and not get hit so you have enough time to peg him before his eye closes.

>>1065650
Any megaman vet should be able to pop off three shots easy. it takes off six bars of health. same as the cutter. which does 2 damage. elec beam does 4 damage, but cutter is easier to land a hit with.

>>1065876
Yeah, it's like JUMPJUMP... hop, JUMPJUMP... hop.
something like that. it's been a while.

I'm just going to keep samefagging as I catch up with the thread. deal with it

BLOODY MARY.

>>1071054
The Pure Land was a fucking nightmare.

>>1067251
I think I'm the only person I know of who never really had trouble with this battle.

>>1071065
FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT

>>1067547
My problem was always act 3. And fuck them if they dont like us talking about D2, as the rules change on a whim and it doesnt really matter.

>>1071065

I feel like this is somebody I should know. Who is it, and what game does this fucker inhabit, so I may never know peace from his evil?

>>1065197
> "MM1 is easy as fuck."
> "Until I get to Yellow Devil."

Get out of here, Bizarro.

>>1073571
He's Valsu, an healer guy from 7th Saga. You see, at level 42 he learns Elixir, a magic that restores his MP and HP to full, the problem is, since the developers of that game were a bunch of sadistic brain-damaged assholes, that he restore himself to full AFTER he spent the MP to cast the magic, making him pratically immortal to anything that doesn't one-shot him.
Choosing the wrong character at the start and making him an enemy of yours is a sure-fire way to make the game unwinnable.

>>1066989
He fucking stunlocks you to death 80% of the time

This fucker.

Honestly wasn't too bad, but seriously makes you go back and grind quite a bit.

>>1073640
What game is this? It looks fun but image and character name searches give me nothing..

>>1073664

Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete.

A PS1 remake of a great Sega CD RPG called, well, Lunar: The Silver Star.

There's an enhanced port on the PSP. Neat little jrpg, cliche most of the time, but still really enjoyable if not for the delicious 90's anime cutscenes in the remakes.

>>1073674
Perhaps it is, because all I got was hentai in return.

>>1073664
Is your image search broken maybe?

>>1073670
Nice, I heard the name before but would have never tied it to the screenshot. I'll check it out, thanks!

>>1073676

I personally liked the PS1 version the most. Mainly, because they changed one of my favorite songs in the PS1 version to something shitty in the PSP version. (The boat cut scene song)

>>1073679

I'll be right back. I have pressing issues to attend to.

>>1067486
Fuck you dude. I forgot about you after all those years and it got brought up again.

>>1073583

It is though. How bad are you at games?

>>1065347
That game's final levels are pure suffering.

Ristar stops fucking around at level 3.

It only gets harder from there. I never beat the final level as a kid.

>>1065451
JUMP JUMP
SLIDE SLIDE

>>1070987
I gave up on that guy.

>>1070318
>TGL
>Not posting Blue Optomon

cmon man

now a days this isn't so bad but as a kid.... fuck, man.

Also, if you loose your magic sheild to those waffle fuckers, you might as well quit

>>1072417

Tougher than the rest of the game at that point.

Also not retro.

>>1076264
>waffle fuckers
>not accordions

>>1077282
>accordions
>not happy fun tubes

>>1076264
Is that the one with all the fucking Wizzrobes?

Pain in the ass.

>>1076264
>>1077282
>>1077289
>waffle
>not pancake
>not--what the hell are happy fun tubes?

>>1070848
Y- you mean you actually did the odd bosses without using the grenade glitch?

>>1077289
>mfw americans call rickety pickety orangey happy fun tubes "Like Likes"

The third level in Super R-Type is very easy until you reach the second part of the level which is filled with enemies that split into two and home in on you if not destroyed fast enough. Nothing in stage 4 is as annoying as that part.

>>1077330
The Japanese called them that. It's pronounced lee-kay lee-kay.

The blue Iron Knuckle boss in Zelda 2.

Sure, you may know of the jumpslash technique and then it's a bit easier, but he still backs off out of the screen and requires a bit of practice while the enemies you've encountered so far can be outrunned and the bosses have both been just "jump and hit them in the head" before it.

>>1077295
It is. I only recently beat it. It was an enormous pain, probably the hardest part in the game (because I had the best sword by the next dungeon, probably).

>>1077418
Magic shield and wizzrobe glitch is the key.

>>1077375
>ライクライク
Only if you're an idiot.

>>1077446
For the rest of us, that's romanized as Raiku Raiku

>>1077480
Arigatou desu ne ka san

>>1067491
The Blinding of Isaac

>>1077495
>Thank you, isn't it? what? person.

>>1077539
For the rest of us, that's ありがとう、そうではありませんか?ね?さん。

>>1065950
Yeah, Band Land is pretty easy. IMO, the hardest world overall is Picture City. Hardest platforming sections, and the hardest boss in the game, except maybe the final bosses.
That water level in Caves of Skops is pretty bad too though.

>>1077563
>Arigatou
Thank you
>desu ne
(agreeing that it is)
>ka
questioning tense
>san
(honorific that shouldn't be in the sentence at all)

My Japanese is shit (I know), but it seems that that sentence is absolute gibberish.

>>1073510
Oh I remember this one. Was a major pain. IIRC, she literally took 1 damage per hit. Took forever to kill.

>>1065468
Redrum fucked me up. He was the first really hard boss in Xenogears.

>PROTECT RAFA!
>rafa kills herself
>soft reset.

>>1077747
I swear to god, place Ramza in the back of the group and then Rafa hides behind your party. I used to never be able to get a single turn, but after doing that strategy that battle becomes so easy.

>>1077747
>this part
>difficulty jump
>not any of the 1v1 fights

those are fucking balls

>>1078102
Which ones? The only one I found challenging was the one right before in the castle with Ramza vs Wiegraf. Everything else was pretty easy, imo.

>>1078149
It really depends on what your party setup is like. If your team is a tank build the rooftop fight is going to be impossible.

>>1076264
Just wait until you get to the second quest. I forgot if it was level 4 or 5, but one is chock full of the skulls that remove your sword until you touch the right color skull or the triforce. There are 0 of the needed colored skulls in the area, and good fucking luck fighting through with just bombs and maybe the bow and arrow if you have it. Neither hurts an enemy you need to beat? Well, shit, guess you are fucked.

And that's when I lost my desire to finally finish the second quest of Zelda. Also killed my desire to play LoZ ever again really. I tried Zelda BS the other day and quit after 30 seconds when I realized how close it was to LoZ.

Oh well, at least Batman has been surprisingly good.

>>1065210
>tfw you can beat this level in one life

Oh how I made Castlevania my bitch

>>1078196
Using a potion will also restore your sword use. I'm repeatedly surprised at how many people don't know this.

>>1078175
I usually have Ramza as a ninja w/ knight swords, monk skills, +2 movement and a few shouts before I engage him. I usually just end up behind him and killing him from behind. in a turn or two.

>>1067318
>Battletoads not being one of the greatest NES games

And the award for most ridiculous difficulty spike in video games is....

Diablo 2's Act 2: otherwise known as: FUCK THIS SHIT I'M NOT PLAYING ANYMORE Desert.

>>1067991
Don't remind me. I'm playing it on the VC and hitting a stone wall.

>Most damaging weapons are the slowest ones
>Quickman's AI pattern is actually easier in a room with rough terrain, so a perfect square is MAXIMUM DIFFICULTY
>THAT FUCKING INSANE COLLISION DAMAGE

>>1081808
Duriel was the only real difficult part of Act 2 -- unless you were totally ready. Bastard hit like a truck, slowed you, and attacked damn fast.

The rest of the Act was just tedious "Go collect X now" bits.

>>1077747
This fight and the fight before it are in all actuality the final two stages of this game, you get Cid practicly right after and once you have him the game is smooth sailing until the deep dungeon

>>1081812
Your forgeting the fuck your melee and minion skarabs

>>1081808
Come on, it was cool, it's not even a hard game until Hell. Those lightning scarabs are tough fuckers.

>>1073510
I figured out the lunge drill trick, but even that took me like an hour to kill her. The game tells you need to use the lightning ring on her, but I think it does like 8 dmg on her. Total garbage.

>>1082038
most powerful spear isn't always best, that's all I'm gonna say

Like, half the god damn bosses. I guess they aren't that hard if you're just spamming geno beam or have grinded a bunch or something, but I can remember a few guys in this game giving me the business.

>>1078229
This is the best way to get past the rooms full of blue knights.

>>1081925
Agreed. As soon as you get Cid the game is over. It regresses to pre-chapter 1 difficulty. In the deep dungeon the only challenge is getting someone to survive to get "Zodiac"./

>>1082063
I recently played through this for the first time in a long while. The difficulty is minimal at best if you understand the mechanics of the game. I was level 20 at endgame. I skipped as many fights as i could, still spent most of the game with 999 coins.

>>1081808
Am I the only one that didnt enjoy Act 3? Act 2 was smooth sailing when they drop you into that fucking swamp jungle.

>>1082063
Only boss i remember who suddenly was really powerfull was the guy after the pirate ship who likes to spam that one water attack. Even he is easy if he isn't spamming it.

This asshole right here. The arena enemies give ZERO resistance, I tore through them all like their mechs were made of wet toilet paper. And then THIS GUY.

These guys are the only hard bosses aside from some of the optional ones.

>>1065197
I'm pretty casual, but even I thought that he wasn't too bad. Once you get the jumping pattern right, you can dodge him pretty easily. You can also use the Thunder Beam and mash the Select button for maximum damage

Death Mountain in Zelda 2. Fuck that part and fuck it for being so early in the game.

>Seiken Densetsu 3
>Have to kill the God-Beasts
>Go to the Ice Cave
>Some knight enemy performs a tech that hits everyone
>Everyone dies instantly

Maybe I was just doing it wrong.

>>1083792

Oh, God. FUCK this battle.

This was the part that made me use save states. I'm sorry /vr/.

>>1065210
This part was relatively easy for me. It's those goddamn knights in the next area that really fuck you up.

From Donkey Kong Country I'd nominate Snow Barrel Blast. That entire stage is goddamn nerve-wracking and much harder than anything before it.

>>1082664
That's Yaridovich for you Anon.

>>1084502
The Rocket Ship stage in Donkey Kong Country 3 infuriated me to hell and back.