/vr/ - Retro Games

For my money, those versions are blech. But they have good mod support, so you can make them less blech.

>>10650234
What's better in comparison

>>10650241
For me always GBA or PSP.

FF3 is the only one that's worth getting.

They're complete junk. Ugly dumbed down versions of games that were easy enough for children anyway.

>>10650219
The only one that has any real reason for existing is FF3 since that never got an updated version outside the 3D remake, and it does appear to be the one that has the most polish of the bunch. The rest of them are bleh. Ugly graphics with ugly colors and even uglier menus and UI elements just make them an eyesore unless you mod them. Even the QoL shit like being able to fast-forward is largely irrelevant since you can do that just as well on emulators. They don't even have the extra content from the GBA/PSP/iOS versions (bad as it was on most of them). I'm not really one to spam this word, but they're the very definition of goyslop.

>>10650243
>For me always GBA or PSP.

man fuck both of those. I'd rather just play them on snes with fixed translation roms

>>10650219
Didn't you already made this thread on /v/ and promptly got told to kill yourself?
What exactly is stopping you from playing literally any other version?

>>10650385
I didn't make that thread, I was just thinking about maybe picking up the remasters of 4, 5 or 6.

>>10650385
He's been making this thread on /v/ every other day for like a year

>>10650381
4 5 and 6 are for plebs.
I was going by 1 2 3 which are the actual kino ones.

>>10650219
Outside of FF3 as a sort of in-between between the original and the remake, not really.
>do they have better versions on different platforms?
Most of them just have the base game content, so you can play the originals (or PS1 for 1 and 2) unless you want QoL. The GBA versions have bonus content of questionable quality, but until GBA emulators have those fancy music loading hacks or whatever, you'll generally have worse sound. Again, 3 is the only exception, but between the QoL, the backported remake abilities (or, in the case of Black Belt, an entirely new ability), probably some subtle tweaks to the job stats/enemies and some tweaks made to make the game easier, PR 3 will still play very differently from either other version of 3.

>>10650403
Sad.

>>10650435
What's sadder to me is the guy who shows up every single time (probably OP, honestly,) claiming that the pixel remasters are the TRUE and HONEST and DEFINITIVE way to play the games and everyone who disagrees is just a /v/ contrarian so buy them now now now now now now

>>10650219
They're godawful.

>>10650219
>short answer
No.

>long answer
They're intended for people who really want the replay nostalgia with a slightly polished up look, and are willing to pay the extra money for doing so. There is another version of each game you could get elsewhere, at a vastly better price, and most other version have additional content that is worth checking out.

If you very much object to emulating old consoles and just want the basic experience with each game, then they're fine options. I wouldn't say that 20% off is a really good deal, and $60 for all six when you haven't played any seems steep. But it is your money so decide if $10-$15 individually or $60 in total is money you're find with throwing around.

they look like fucking shit, the backgrounds look like shit, the color palette looks like shit

I suffer at the thought of people playing these thinking they're the ultimate purist experience

>>10650789
For me, it's the pointless little minimaps that can't be properly disabled and ruin the experience of every single dungeon

>>10650789
And yet that's all the Jewtubers use these days for their """""content""""". Not sure if that's just them being ignorant faggots who think newer must equal better or if they know their audience thinks so, but I'm leaning toward the former. Just the other day I decided to check out some video that ranked Gau's Rages because it popped up on my feed, and the retard actually put Rafflesia on D rank because he didn't know Entice worked on bosses and he didn't come across that fact on his "research", which told me all I needed to know about him.

>>10650219
sovless

I don't see the point in buying these on PC. Just download a SNES emulator.
I've played through 3 and 5. 3 was interesting, as it is the only "new" game here, being unlike any version previously released. 5 was disappointing, with menu delay, atb bugs, and general jankiness indicative of the fact that these are actually unity remakes with the old sprites stuck on top of them.

>>10650837
I don't know if they all do but 5 and 6 have an issue with the characters running at a different FPS than the rest of the game so they stutter when moving around. As far as I know they haven't bothered to fix it.

>>10650843
I just honestly can't be bothered with, and certainly can't recommend, "ports" of games that originally ran on a 3 mhz processor but somehow have input delay and not smooth scrolling.

Playing through FFV for the first time. Started yesterday and spent a while today beating the floating dungeon's defense guns. That last one was nuts. Stupid hard. Not sure if I'm underleveled or not, but I've never stopped to grind so far. Now I'm stuck against a group of bombs that attack after I visit the second meteor.
So far I'm loving it. The job system is the best it's been and the bosses have mostly been a variety of gimmicks -- in a good way. Very few have just been "hit them and heal".

>>10650865
You don't need to grind in FFV at all. Just experiment a bit more with the jobs you have. Also, several weapons have some nice effects when used as items and they might solve a lot of headaches for you.

>>10650219
I: PSX
II: PSX
III: 3D Remake
IV: 3D Remake or PSP
V: Someone help
VI: SNES

>>10650870
I figured out the rods can be used in battle for high level spells and I got a heal rod which I used to heal/snap my party out of confusion during the battles with the rocket turrets. Aside from that I couldn't figure out how to remove confusion because I'd kill them if I hit the person. There also seemed to be some ... rng to the turret section. If I was lucky I'd just get the fire emission ones. Maybe it's a timing thing.

>>10650908
A handful of bosses are just hard, and the sky fortress section is one of those times.

DS FF3 and FF4 are the best versions
:-)

>>10650904
III is best via the pixel remaster, and it's the only one that is.

>>10651013
Then I guess 3D Remake for the challenge (for III and IV), and Pixel Remaster and PSP (III and IV).

They are probably only better than the mobile iterations. Emulate the originals.

>>10651043
I haven't played it, but the 3D III remake sounds a lot easier on paper.
>weaker jobs 'balanced'
>lower maximum enemies per battle
>save point in final dungeon

>>10650283
https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=RP4JeEEzbJ8&list=PLkog_NvP2P1IfKKcdSUDYMegA0E6fOAQP&index=28

>>10651059
The lower amount of mobs have more health and do more damage and bosses get two moves every turn. It is harder.

>>10651059
>save point in final dungeon
Not at all. You get a spot on the overworld between the gate and the final castle to save, but the whole endgame boss rush still has to be cleared in one run.

>>10651163
I could've sworn I read they changed that. Honestly impressed.

>>10650381
Dawn of souls is the only way to play 1 and 2

>>10651181
>MP
"No."

What is the mindset of people that buy rehashes.
You can literally just download and play like 10 other versions for free.

>>10651181
It's a respectable way to play II.

>>10650219
They're ok. Though they're missing added endgame content which I do miss out on with the later ports. Also, the new music is kind of garbage. Uematsu is one of those individuals who needs limitations otherwise he goes full retard and blends a bunch of shit together into an unrecognizable mess.

>>10651189
I'm so autistic that I will even argue with myself over free emulatable versions.
>Mega Man 7 is in English
>but Rockman 7 has Roll replacing Dr Light in the weapon explanation screens
Obvious choice.

>>10651181
>mp
the only way to play FF1 is on NES
even psx cucks kneel to our power

>>10651201
PSX has the exact same system, retard-kun.

>>10650381
>he wants to play weaboo translations from people who barely or don't understand the language

>>10651208
V's still best with some form of fan translation, at least until someone makes an edit of the GBA translation without pop culture and meme references.
You're right about the other two. Is it a coincidence that V was skipped by Shortrod? i think not.

>>10651203
with none of the bugs nor the SOVL

>>10651227
Bugs aren't soul. You've been lied to. The only soulful bug is Missingno and the Mew glitch.

>>10650234
fpbp

>>10651229
Make up your mind, waste of time.

>>10651238
It's the only soulful glitch.
>is basically lore, a completely unmarked Pokemon with its own name and number
>has both positive and negative effects, tread lightly
>but mostly positive, use it to break your game wide open
>also you can catch the legendary Mew with these few simple steps
You're mad because your Sega or whatever can't possibly grasp the imagination of millions.

>>10651174
Most people are talking about the DS and PSP versions. Which if you haven't noticed, discussion of which summons shitters out of the woodworks to complain about how they were filtered. The Steam version might have auto saves.

>>10651249
I was talking specifically about the 3D version, you absolute fucking retard. Redditor fuck. Read the quote chain.

>>10651253
im trans btw

>>10651254
Sorry to hear that. Except I'm not.

>>10651253
Are you retarded?

>>10651258
Are you?

>>10651258
>>10651261
two retards....

>>10651267
>...
Suck my dick, you effeminate terminally online retard.

>>10651261
Every version mentioned in that post is a "3D" version, you fucking cretin.

>>10651243
You've made the case that bugs are soulful, thanks for making up your mind.

>>10651271
Yes, as a synonym of 'DS' or 'PSP'. I am going to rape you to death.

>>10651268
no...........

>>10651275
I now get why people complain about ESLs. They come to this board, can't understand what they are reading, then start sperging out like lunatics in response to normal conversation. You need to go back.

>>10651283
I repeat: I am going to rape you to death.

>>10651273
Ok, now name another glitch that even comes close. You can't.

>>10650219
Never really played a FF game until recently but I'm really enjoying them. Had a hankering a fun and simple RPG and it's scratching that itch very well.
Currently on 3.
I recommend using a shader tho, these games really seem to strain my eyes for some reason.

>>10651013
I like the DS version

>do you really not understand the difference between the versions?
>nigger retard, i was referring to all 3D versions, of which DS and PSP belong
>REEEE I GOT YOU YOU, SAID THE WRONG THING!!
The absolute state of human discourse. Kill yourself, you fucking pissant.

>>10651338
omg me too :-)
its so much cuter and more fun
idk why people hate it so much
the PSP and later versions even have auto battle its great

Should I play FF6 PR or GBA?

>>10651013
>But there were not many job classes where your job level was too important. If a class DID rely on job levels, the job-specific skill usually sucked anyway.
Anon...

>>10651350
PR is censored, along with a bug that makes the characters stutter when they move. GBA has lousy music. Go with SNES. There's probably a romhack with the GBA script if that's your thing.

>>10651370
Does the new content in GBA suck?

What about FF5?

>>10651374
Yes, all the cheap side content sucks. Any more extremely obvious day one questions you might have shill-kun?

>>10651376
Yeah, which version of FF5 should I play?

>>10651386
The original fucking romhack, my man. The literal first translation.

>>10651059
Yes and no. There are only three enemies, but they generally have more health. On the other hand, most of the jobs are buffed or have some skill and there are a few bones thrown to the player (like how you're given a Flame Rod right before the first mini section, which can be used as an item by the mages, giving you free Fire casts).
But overall it's a harder game.

>>10651394
>But overall it's a harder game.
You retards keep saying this, but you don't substantiate.

>>10651396
The biggest area is boss fights because bosses can move twice per turn (r some cases, three times). Due to the way the game does enemy AI, raising anyone is risky unless you know how to game the system to ensure they don't get ganked. Statuses in general also got nerfed so they're not as effective as they were in the Famicom version (aside from gradual petrification). Overall it's just a case of enemies hitting harder, having more health or new attacks and just a general need to think more carefully about your team composition than you did before.

>>10651407
Why was this deleted?

>>10651396
The biggest area is boss fights because bosses can move twice per turn (r some cases, three times). Due to the way the game does enemy AI, raising anyone is risky unless you know how to game the system to ensure they don't get ganked. Statuses in general also got nerfed so they're not as effective as they were in the Famicom version (aside from gradual petrification). Overall it's just a case of enemies hitting harder, having more health or new attacks and just a general need to think more carefully about your team composition than you did before.
But at the time, I suspect it isn't that much harder once you know what you're doing. I'm replaying the DS version and while I'm only right before the Tower of Owen, the opening hours weren't as difficult as I thought they were previously.
>>10651420
Expanding on my own point.

>>10651424
>Expanding on my own point.
Go back.

>>10651390
I agree, although I'm playing the gba version now. I played the snes fan translation last year and had a blast though. Gba has some nicer backgrounds but the snes had way better music. Guess it's up to which you prefer, for me I like the better music

>>10651504
I am going to rape your jewish girlfriend. She's sick of you, anyway, Chaim.

>>10650241
Emulator of choice and rom. Cost less and is a better experience.

>>10651291
When anons argue from emotion they'll avoid challenging their own stance before presenting it, resulting in weak subjective preconceptions such as yours... I present pallette swaps, aka every Sonic fan character ever. Here's one of many.
https://info.sonicretro.org/Ashura

Tell me, how many characters did missingno influence?

>>10650219
Please post the best system to Play for each game?

>>10651595
>Uh, when anons say a thing, they ur durr I have jews raping my mouth

>>10651598
FF1: NES
FF2: NES
FF3: DS :-)
FF4: DS :^) or jp SNES with translation patch
FF5: SNES with translation patch or GBA
FF6: SNES
FF7: PS1
FF8: PS1
FF9: PS1
FF10: PS2, international

>>10651616
Thanks I'll get started

>>10651615
Thank you for ending the conversation with such an apt demonstration, well done.

>>10651620
Dumb kike.

>>10651621
>Please clap.

>>10651625
Dumb kike.

>>10651595
The jews murdered JFK, bombed the USS Liberty, and bombed the Twin Towers. Glownigger faggot
>1 (one) more minute until you can post

>>10651595
>ASHURA THE HEDGEHOG

>>10651595
Glownigger, I am going to punch you in your stupid face. What will you do against that? Nothing. I will punch you in your glownigger face.

>>10651396
It was already stated why earlier in the thread. Stop posting.

>>10651707
Suck my balls you fucking kike.

>>10651616
Helpful post, nice.

>>10651595
ASHURA
The jews murdered JFK, bombed the USS Liberty, and bombed the Twin Towers. You little kike bitfch.

>>10651742
And?

>>10650381
>fixed translation roms
They don't exist. They're all full of autistic tweaks and changes or try to combine a faithful translation with """""soulful""""" woolsey shit.

>>10650405
Being a contrarian will never make you special.

>>10650904
>PSX
>loading times
lol

>V: Someone help
GBA

>VI: SNES
LOL

>>10651285
>>>/reddit/

>>10650776
>with a slightly polished up look
But they look worse

>>10651616
holy shit again with this retarded misinformation.
>muh nes
gba remakes are better.
>muh ps1
All trash with loading times.
>muh american snes release of 6
garbage translation and censorship
>muh american ps1 release of 7
garbage translation
>muh shitty ps2 ff10 models
everyone in that version looks like a hideous asian actor cosplaying as a video game character

>>10651618
>>10651710
don't listen to that retard. Every game that got a gba remake is superior on that system.
play the hd remasters of 7, 9 and 10
play the ds version of 3
for everything else gba

>but my sound quality waaaah
either download restoration patches or just play the games and go listen to the higher quality tracks on youtube or something, it's not worth subjecting yourself to ugly graphics and garbage translations just to hear the chiptunes a bit better.

>>10651789
The loading times were only an issue in FFV & FFVI. If it still bothers you, the WonderSwan Color versions are the fastest.

>>10651798
sound quality is worse on gba ports and FF4 lags during battle
this anon is retarded and probably like 25 and never played any other ports which is why he's biased
>hd remasters of 7, 9, and 10
holy shit this kid is fucking stupid

>>10651801
>WonderSwan Color
None of the FF games on WonderSwan have finished translations and even if they did that's another fucking handheld why play that over the GBA versions?

>>10651803
>didn't even read the rest of the post but still had to cry about it
you only seethe about the remasters because you've made being a contrarian """oldfag""" part of your personality instead of just coming here because old games are fun to talk about. you take personal offense at the idea that anything can ever be improved from the janky trash you grew up with.

>sound quality is worse on gba ports
and the ps1 versions have shittier translations and load times.

>this anon is retarded and probably like 25 and never played any other ports which is why he's biased
projection.

>holy shit this kid is fucking stupid
7's old translation was trash.
10's old character models were trash.
and I'd love to hear you try to come up with a single reason 9's is worse. even a made-up retard reason. it's perfect.
you're literally just brainwashed into unironically believing "new=bad" in all cases without thinking critically in the slightest.

op disregard these faggots this is the only ff7 port worth playing

>>10651804
Translation isn't a gigantic issue since it's minor compressed graphics that aren't translated. The WSC and PSX are still the best-looking versions since they're the only post-NES releases with good color balance. Everything afterwards has that awful GBA saturation. Although color-corrected PSP may not be bad, but it doesn't exist.

>>10651851
Sorry, here's the real image.

>>10651798
loooool this faggot really said gba FF1 is better
thats insane
like if you're gonna be a retard at least recommend the PSP version

>>10651798
I appreciate the warning but I really won't be wary at all; I like classic games including their drawbacks.

>>10651798
Anon, we can argue about I-VI til the cows come home, but I ain't see no one argue that VII and beyond ain't best in their original form.
>garbage ps1 translation
...of VII? Watcha smokin'? They barely retouched the text of anything past VI (and the only truly garbage PS1 translation was V).

>>10651595
Ashura glitch takes me back. Goddamn

>>10651787
Better to be a contrarian than have shit taste

>>10651798
>gba remakes are better.
Lol no.

>>10651854
I don't care how plebby it makes me, I think the PSP versions of 1+2 are absolutely beautiful.

So for 1+2 it should be psp?

>>10652263
You'll never get a consenus. Look at:

>>10651854

and if its art syle offends you then vito it. I think it's gorgeous, personally. The early Final Fantasy games are not works of digital Shakespeare so aesthetic is important. If you're after challenge: they're RPGs, they're as challenging as you make then re: levelling. They also come with added extras introduced in the GBA versions.

>>10650219
The Pixel Remasters are so close to being the definitive versions.
They just need to add all the missing bonus content from the other versions (via DLC).
Additional choices for the PS1, WSC, GBA, and PSP soundtracks (where applicable) also wouldn't hurt.

>>10652271
What fixed what was broken (spells, classes, leveling,etc)?

>>10652283
Oh Jesus, I don't know, mate. Neither FF1 or 2 have much going on there that matter much. The original used a finite number of spells the caster could use before an inn/tent recharge, literal single digits for the upper tiers. The GBA/PSP maybe wonderswan replaced with Magic Points that we all know and love. I'm sure the GBA/PSP are easier too. What do you WANT out of your Final Fantasy experience? Let's start there. Of course, by the time we finish this thread you could have finished FF1 on ANYTHING.

>>10652274
>The Pixel Remasters are so close to being the definitive versions.
I knew you'd show your fucking stupid face in this thread eventually you liar

>>10652550
NTA but he's not wrong, technically.
They're in the top three of each game version at the very least. Usually not the best, but far from the worst you can do.

>>10651846
True, but only on time appropriate hardware with Yamaha sound card.

>>10652263
For me it's PSP because I love the look.
But GBA is awesome as well. You can't go wrong with either one

>>10653063
My mm+ doesn't have PSP so I'll start with GBA