/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10637979
Play Super VG on fightcade then faggot

I don't.

I watched the VG anime for the first time a while back and enjoyed it but I'm not sure where to start with the games.
Is there one that's a particularly good entry point for the series?

>>10637979
Why bother with this shit?
It's a worse fighting game than real fighting games and it's worse coomer material than just jerking off to r34 or that viper game that ripped off the vgeo girl.

>>10637979

>>10639434
SOVL
>>10639338
Found the tranny

>>10637979
The original character designer/artist struck gold with Yuka that even in her own game she gets a clone. Then for even more, there's Akira from the Viper games which is pretty similar in design to Takeuchi Yuka as well.

which of the girls have been canonically raped by a male?

>>10639513
>t-t-tranny
No rationale at all, just a pre-programmed response. You're the one jizzing your pants over a mediocre fighting game with no porn in it, faggot. YWNHS

>>10639158
Advanced VG2 (PSX) and VG Max (PC) are the best. The PC-98 games just aren't very good as fighting games, but they have great CG.

Ayako was my favourite. her music on her stage was great.
https://youtu.be/_9uDjjANn8U

need more sexy games

>>10639726
>Advanced VG2 (PSX) and VG Max (PC) are the best.
Generally this + watch the OVA and you've got the perfect V.G. experience. Don't bother with A.V.G. 1 or PC-98 games - the former is... just mediocre at best, and the latter is just a playable excuse to see hentai pics.

>>10639846
>need more sexy games
Just download porn.

>>10639927
Fuck off back to resetera.

>>10639958
Take your meds.

>>10639726
>VG Max (PC)
Also, for the third time or something - how the hell do you run this on non-Japanese PCs? Tried chanching my regional settings - doesn't work. Somebody recommended me using DxWnd but the damn thing doesn't work either, probably because I'm doing something wrong.

>>10640381
I'm using Windows 10 and can play in windowed mode. Maybe some DxWnd expert can do better, but here's own I run it.

VGM.EXE Properties > Compatibility

check "Reduced color mode" > "8-bit (256) colors"

Then in the System folder of VGMax, create a file named "CommandVGM.txt" in which you write the following line:
ScreenMode Window

It works for me. In this file, you can also add a line with
KeyBordOffset TRUE
to play with arrow keys

>>10637979
She's honestly the only memorable character design, but it's a really good one

>>10642560
Dammit, I could have known it was THAT easy. I don't even need that DxWnd bullshit to run this game. Thanks a lot Anon, here's a chibi Yuka for (You).

>>10642604
They all have a little something depending on what you're into, from uohhh Manami to muscle-fu Jun. Yuka has universal appeal, but most of us have a different favorite.

>>10642651
Thanks, but it's still not a perfect solution if you want to enjoy the game in fullscreen. The screen remains black if I don't switch to windowed mode.

>>10642710
>uohhh Manami
She makes a great punching bag in the practice mode. God, I hate kawaii UwU catgirls...

whats so amazing about this design? i just cant see it. its just animu tough girl with long brown hair. theres one of her in every anime of that era. the one in sailor moon is still hotter

>>10642784
>whats so amazing about this design? i just cant see it. its just animu tough girl with long brown hair.
Let me remind you that almost all V.G. senshi are part-time waitresses besides being martial artists. That's something unusual.

>>10642953
waitresses that can kick ass/have some martial training are not really that uncommon in japanese media anon

I say, give VG its proper H-Revival under a good company.

>>10642784
Takahiro Kimura's mastery of shapes and forms

>>10642994
Could you imagine if vanillaware handled a vg game? Or atleast the art?

>>10643206
F for Kimura

>>10643362
Just have the girls fucked and with art on par with Master Piece and Garden: Takamine-Ke no Nirinka shit needs EP 2 with the aunt date ASAP

>>10643589
Not that anon, but seriously, just download hentai at this point.

>>10643682
noooo you can't just look at porn to masturbate that means you're from redditera or whatever you have to jerk off to clothed softcore porn for some reason!!!

>>10637979
>I miss her so much, brehs
Then go after her, dummy! Her airplane leaves in half a hour.

>>10637979
Coincidentally, I watched the OVAs a few days ago. Every single fight sucked and the story was really dumb, but all the girls were hot and the fanservice was mostly good. Pic related was best girl.

>>10644763

>>10644768
people watching on tv must be pretty mad about that convenient camera angle

>>10644783
Despite the series showing the naked tits of the majority of the main cast, they never show hers for some reason. It bothered me more than I'm proud to admit.

>>10644857
Yuka, too. It feels like the OVA was trying to be more mainstream and compete with the likes of Street Fighter II The Animated Movie and letting the main hero keep her dignity was how they chose to walk that tightrope.

I think the gimmick that the loser has to take off her clothes hurts the game because it's too on the nose. It's a coomerbrain way of integrating nudity. Keeping everything else the same but simply having a complex clothing damage algorithm would make it a lot better. Though I guess that wasn't possible back in the day. But if there's ever a revival make it 3D like DOA and do the clothing damage thing.

I love everything else about Variable Geo. A tournament where waitresses compete? Cool. Evil corporate overlord running the operation? Cool. But the characters just agreeing ahead of time that the loser strips doesn't connect. It's just tacked on. Maybe if the stages are super public there could be a tweaked ring out mechanic. Get too close to the edge and the crowd might grab your clothes and rip them off. Get knocked out into the crowd and the loser is shown getting swallowed up, her bare legs flailing to give the distinct impression she's being thrust into by a train.

>>10639601
Are any VG or Steam Hearts games good?

Fun fact, Variable Geo's uniforms, are based on the uniform from a chain of restaurants called Anna miller's.

Are these games playable online?

>>10645004
Wow, that looks frumpy as shit in real life. I guess that's the magic of anime.

>>10644763
>Every single fight sucked and the story was really dumb
How do you exactly adapt a video game "story" about a martial arts tournament for the so-called "combat waitresses" and not make it dumb? Even Mortal Kombat, which is deemed the "best vidya movie evar" is quite dumb when it comes to adapting the story of its source material. Turning a fighting game into an animated show or movie is always a pain in the ass story-wise.
>all the girls were hot and the fanservice was mostly good
Well, the same artist worked on the OVA, which helps a lot. Pic related.
>>10644893
>Keeping everything else the same but simply having a complex clothing damage algorithm would make it a lot better.
>But if there's ever a revival make it 3D like DOA and do the clothing damage thing.
C'mon, TGL, do it. There's money to be made out there!
>>10645004
All the restaurants are spoofs of real-life ones. And bold spoofs at that - we all know those off-brand "WcDonald's" in various anime, right? Well, in V.G., Yuka's restaurant is called Hanna Miller's, while the real thing was Anna Miller's. And she also wears the exact same uniform, yet nobody gave a shit about copyright infringement or something.

>>10645780
>C'mon, TGL, do it. There's money to be made out there!
Especially now. DOA shit the bed with its DLC shenanigans so there's an opportunity for another game to steal its marketshare.

>>10642953
mid-90s anime style is pretty ugly with their angled chins and noses sharp enough to stab you in the cock.

>>10646327
Modern anime style is cheap slop and you can't convince me it's not.

>>10646327
id take those crotch stabbing chins over the modern moeblob any day all day
the picture you quoted is not even a 10 on the 100 scale of pointy chins

>>10646195
>there's an opportunity for another game to steal its marketshare
Yeah, but it won't be Variable Geo, it will be my game instead. No hard feelings.

>>10646463

>>10644783
It's a strange thing too since the OVA does have nudity in it anyway.

>>10646536
Sorry for wasting your time, anon!
For all of the pointless and unfounded bickering between 4chan users, I do actually have mental issues, leading me to occasionally pose as someone completely different (even if I dislike that person). I'm no game dev, I was just genuinely "larping" as one, of the arrogant kind. I know it's annoying, and I apologize in advance, but, hey, it's 4chan we're in... it's not like you'd expect anything better.

>>10639927
Tranny post. Titillation and porn are not the same thing. Just because you cut your cock off doesn't mean you have to force everyone else to.

>>10643879
Anon he meant the original doujinshi of Garden.
which is great, and needs a sequel

>>10647309
Take your meds.

>looking at porn makes you a tranny now
The derangement of obsessed /pol/tards knows no bounds.

>>10644895
I really like Advanced VG 2 for the original Playstation. It plays surprisingly well as a solid fighting game. As for Steam Heart's, I've only played the PCE and Saturn versions but I understand it depends on what you're looking for on a sliding ratio of censorship and playability. It could have smooth gameplay but most censored on the Saturn, or least censored but less smooth gameplay on PC-98, so maybe the PCE version is the best in-between.

>>10639338
Games don’t have to be the best in every category to be enjoyable

Is the PC-CD game the only console game in the series with actual nudity? I'm talking about the pink-haired girl's ending if you beat it on hardest.

>>10648823
If VG wasn't full of coomerbait nobody would remember it.

>>10648882
>PC-CD

I meant PCE-CD.

Don't respond to the attention whore

>>10644867
Probably. Yuka's VA in the OVA is Mitsuishi Kotono (Misato from Evangelion) and Reimi's is Yuriko Yamaguchi (Ritsuko from Evangelion), they're not the same as their game counterparts.

What made me think they actually intended for it to go mainstream is that Advanced VG2 shows flashbacks from the OVA instead of the earlier games.

>>10642720
I always post this trivia in every VG thread: if Manami misses this attack (Guruguru Rocket Punch), the cat's paw comes back and hits her in the face, and she actually takes damage.

>>10648882
>>10648994
In the PCE-CD version the most naughty thing you get are girls flashing their panties when jumping or performing kicks. The Saturn and PS1 animations follow the anime law of "magical skirt".

>>10648965
Do you think everyone fap to animu girls, right? Get off your hentai tentacle porn and take meds, now. Inb4 PC-98 games - they're barely playable.

>>10649063
I wonder why for the OVA they hired different seyiuu than in the games. Still, these are some known names in the industry.
>Guruguru Rocket Punch
It's Neko Rocket Punch and this move shows what a clumsy little annoying bitch she is.

>>10649116
Nope, in the PCE-CD version, you see the pink-haired girl's bare ass getting spanked by her mom in the ending. You need to beat the game with her on hardest.

>>10649140
Hats off for beating the worst port of A.V.G. on hardest difficulty with the weakest, most annoying character. I couldn't stand both the gameplay and those atrocious sprites that just don't do justice to character design artworks, not to mention their poor animation.

>>10643589
I havent watched hentai in ages, since like midnight sleazy train and female teacher 23 years old(?). Ill check this out.

So what developer was behind V.G. Max? I googled some names and they all mostly trace back to FamilySoft, the guys behind Asuka 120%, but I'm not sure if it really was them. I'm pretty sure though it wasn't TGL themselves, who only published the game under their GIGA label.

>>10649063
>What made me think they actually intended for it to go mainstream is that Advanced VG2 shows flashbacks from the OVA instead of the earlier games.
It does seem like they were trying to make that transition. VG was better than your average coomer game but still rough around the edges that it wasn't going to stand up against Street Fighter II. But it was at least as good as those Bandai DBZ games. Sony was pretty restrictive with nudity though so unless they were willing to let the game languish on Saturn they had to make a choice. It seems like it didn't work out and they bailed but had the PS1 game sold well they probably would have continued the franchise nudity-free.

I guess that's still a problem should anyone want to bring it back. Sony is still pretty anal retentive, even ironically compared to Nintendo. And now CERO is a thing, causing even more of a barrier. They'd almost have to decide to release it exclusively overseas with only a Steam version being available in Japan. Not sure any Japanese publishers would be satisfied with that arrangement.

>>10650726
You gotta appreciate the effort they put in too. Full story mode with animated cutscenes.

>>10650726
>And now CERO is a thing, causing even more of a barrier.
The PSN releases are rated CERO-B, with content warnings for "sexual content", "crime" and "violence". What did they mean by "sexual content" if outright lewd stuff was cut? Probably damaged outfits in the cutscenes and intermission dialogues. Crime? It's all because Miranda shoots someone, twice, and that's all. Violence? It's cartoony for Fred Fuchs' sake... I swear CERO is more pain in the ass than ESRB or PEGI.

>>10650746
>Full story mode with animated cutscenes.
There was not that much animated cutscenes throughout the course of A.V.G.2's story mode, but man are they awesome. Some anon posted an animation cel (pic related) several threads ago.

>>10650746
The PSX era was weird like that. Evil Zone/Eretzvaju has a full story mode with narrated and voiced transitions for every single character, even the secret boss. I think there are at least 2 hours of voiced dialogue in that game.

>>10650763
>I swear CERO is more pain in the ass than ESRB or PEGI.
It is. It's actually why games get censored now more than anything. The ESRB and PEGI are actually pretty chill all things considered. But because Japanese games have to go through CERO first, and CERO is way more anal, it means that CERO standards effectively subsume the ESRB and PEGI, so we effectively have CERO worldwide. Since it's the most restrictive body the games have to go through before landing anywhere else it means that so long as it's a Japanese game. The only way around it would be to release separate versions in different regions but no developer is going to bother with that. You can probably blame this all on Pokemon. That seizure incident instigated an aggressive protect the children campaign in Japan, much like America went through in the 80s.

>>10647309
That got to 11 fast.

i still can't get over how much fun avg2 is

>>10650763
>There was not that much animated cutscenes throughout the course of A.V.G.2's story mode,
Hey this was still when having any at all was kind of novel.

>>10649116
>Do you think everyone fap to animu girls, right?
ESL detected.

>Get off your hentai tentacle porn and take meds, now.
You're the one playing a fighting """game""" where 100% of the appeal comes from the coomerbait despite not having any nudity in it. You're like a child who still faps to fashion mags because he can't find real porn.

>>10650814
Is there any way to play it online?

>>10649063
>the cat's paw comes back and hits her in the face, and she actually takes damage.

I remember this happening but then I remember not happening so I got curious. I went on a Manami quest to play her on every single Variable Geo game.
Variable Geo (PC98) > No return damage
Variable Geo 2 (PC98) > No return damage (super also does nothing)
Advanced VG (PCE) > No return damage
Advanced VG (PSX) > No return damage (super also does nothing)
Advanced VG (Saturn) > No return damage (super also does nothing)
Super VG (SNES) > Damage on return !
Advanced VG 2 (PSX) > Damage on return (even the super does damage if it fails!)
VG Custom (PC) > Damage on return (super also damages)
VG Max (PC) > No return damage (super also does nothing)

Seems like it was an addition on the Super Famicom version that stuck on the 2nd PSX game and the Custom PC version, but thats it. Every other version doesn't damage her, she has the animation for the paw hitting her head but it doesn't do actual damage.

>>10652070
Nice.

>>10648882
>>10649140
>>10649116
I remember the difference between PCE and Saturn versions was interesting, on the PCE version the Story Mode has Manami changing her clothes in public (with her fans in the background looking) down to her underwear, bra and panties. But in the Saturn version she's still has her dress on just starting to get undressed.
Meanwhile the Normal Mode on PCE has no defeat screens for any of the girls while the Saturn does have them yet censored.
Anyways since I was on a Manami quest and I played every single game I also checked her ending on PCE on difficulty lvl 4 and lvl8, I also checked the Saturn version on difficulty lvl4 and lvl8.
On PCE and Saturn on lvl 4 she gets rich by winning the tournament then becomes a teacher and breaks a window, then she hides from the principal or whatever while she gets scolded by her students that she should come clean.
https://files.catbox.moe/3o22kl.mp4
On PCE on lvl 8 she still gets rich by winning the tournament but then it cuts to her mother scolding her about the part time job and slapping her but several times while she cries the butt is clearly seen and her pantsu is down and all.
https://files.catbox.moe/sbaept.mp4
So I guess that's the most nudity the console Variable Geo games show.

>>10649591
I experienced all sorts of AI playing all games and it's mostly terrible, with the characters programmed to react certain ways which is very exploitable.
The hard parts were getting past characters with great movesets that had insane hitboxes and were made to counter everything, like Chiho, which is the hardest character on the SNES version. But the rest were all very easy, if rolling didn't cut it, then rocket punches, and if that failed, jump>sweep did the trick.
This is Advanced VG Saturn on lvl8, absolutely pathetic.
https://files.catbox.moe/6ub1bw.mp4

>>10651582
i've played it online with mednafen but apparently duckstation has rollback.
ps1 was supposed to be coming to fightcade but its taking forever.

I just beat advanced vg1 saturn/ps1 arcade and story back to back
-same games but saturn has different backgrounds or just different details on most stages
-saturn lets you choose p1 as cpu in arcade mode....and cpu yuka beat the entire arcade on level 8 without losing 1 round
-saturn brings back the per match win hentai cg, but censored
-character talking cgs on saturn story are large like a VN. on ps1 they're the cropped pre-fight cg with transparency box
-ps1 has transparencies for the character select
-ps1 also has exclusive k-2 character select art (saturn is pallet swap k-1)
-speed 5 is insane and i've never seen a fighting game go at this speed

>>10637979
Youre "waifu" is a fuckling faggotard. You should eat cement

>>10653539
i find it interesting that vg never had properly drawn animations for the hentai cg since dicks were removed.

>>10644893
>It's a coomerbrain
Get a fucking vocabulary

>>10646463
>it will be my game instead
Not unless you have my art (which you don't)

>>10652104
>I experienced all sorts of AI playing all games and it's mostly terrible, with the characters programmed to react certain ways which is very exploitable.
I noticed that too, it's hard to properly combo an AI opponent, too. It all comes down to:
>if rolling didn't cut it, then rocket punches, and if that failed, jump>sweep did the trick.

>>10653539
>-character talking cgs on saturn story are large like a VN. on ps1 they're the cropped pre-fight cg with transparency box
Noice, I didn't know that. I didn't play the Saturn version a lot, PS1 was enough for me. Also Ayako opens her eyes after winning a bout in the PCE-CD version.

>>10654101
Heil grammar o/

>>10654125
That's being taken care of. Just know that if you don't draw for me, then you won't draw for anyone else.

>>10653539
Sounds like Advanced V.G. is best overall on the Saturn. Kinda weird considering Advanced V.G. 2 is a PS1 exclusive. On the flipside, it looks like the Saturn port was from 1997 whereas the PS1 version is from 1996. Is Speed 5 really a Saturn exclusive?

>>10652104
>I experienced all sorts of AI playing all games and it's mostly terrible, with the characters programmed to react certain ways which is very exploitable.

So it has the bad sign of a fighting game, cheating AI.

>inb4 NO, YOU SUCK, GIT GUD!

god forbid some games are bad.

>>10653539
Weird seeing that CG with clothes on

>10651573
Faggot. Also no (You) for you.

>>10654709
both have speed 5 and play the same with the same ai

there needs to be an audio comparison at some point because i swear arcade has different lines between ps1/sat.
(checked and yep)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXmFI0Asu5g&t=165s

I also need to go back and emulate both versions pixel perfect and check story cgs. saturn looked worse at times but that might have been an emulation issue. like there were grey and green pixels in cg sometimes.

>>10655172
its almost more lewd when you know the originals

>>10655567
>its almost more lewd when you know the originals
i dont, which one is uncensored
i must do this for science now

>>10655667
>which one is uncensored
The ones in PC-98 games.

>>10655678
how playable are they for people who dont know moonrunes

>>10655685
No moonrunes knowledge is needed for this one. It's a fightan, c'mon. But the playabilty itself leaves much to be desired due to how PC-98 handles games of this genre, so you have been warned. Well, at least the static pixel art is S O U L.

>>10655734
Yeah. These are pretty clunk, as are most fighters on the system. I wonder if they use the same code as Sword Dancer, an RPG with versus-fighting combat, also by TGL.

>>10655567
>I also need to go back and emulate both versions pixel perfect and check story cgs. saturn looked worse at times but that might have been an emulation issue. like there were grey and green pixels in cg sometimes.
I wonder if it's worth it for me to burn a CD and give it a shot if you provided reference CG's exhibiting the issue. Can't make any promises since my life is a pretty constant dumpster fire at the moment but the Variable Geo threads are always top tier.

>>10655685
The game itself isn't very playable, to tell the truth. The game still uses diskettes, so unless you figure out how to install it to the emulated HDD, you'll have to change disks depending on the characters you choose. Aside from that, the scrolling effects on the PC-98 are absolutely horrible, so the game will feel really janky when someone hits one of the corners.

Just look up the CG online and play the much better console versions.

>>10652346
>duckstation rollback
Want to try it with me? Apparently we need to exchange IP addresses in order for it to connect but I don't really mind if you don't mind.

>>10639927
>>10647309
both of you fuck off to /v/

>>10655294
>muh (You)s
Okay /v/tard.

>>10657353
No YOU Fuck off back to /v/ you coomertard. This is /vr/ it's a board for men. Men look at porn. Manchildren look at skimpy softcore PG-13 shit and they belong on /v/.

>>10657446
this is a board for /vr/ related topics
die somewhere else

Why is this series called Variable Geo anyway? Sounds more like something to do with racing as in "variable geometry turbocharger... Just like Viper games which are hentai VNs, but the title sounds like it has something to do with Dodge's iconic sports car. Oh... Japanese and their weirdness will never cease to amaze me.

>>10658585
I think that says more about you if you think everything's inextricably linked to motor racing.

>>10657446
>>>/h/