/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10604067
"Ah, you think these shaders are your ally? You merely adopted the CRT. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see an OLED or LCD until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding!"

>>10604067
Isn't this just CRT-simple?

>>10604146
No
>>10604141
This looks like shit

>>10604067
we already have a lookin' good thread

also what's the point of using shaders without scanlines and masks? just to feel special for not playing raw?

I'll have to see more screens of opening levels of games you don't actually play

>>10604165
>does the level select trick
heh, nothing personnel kiddo

>>10604156
This looks nice, which one is it?

>>10604171
https://pastebin.com/mE0Q83i8

>>10604171
I posted a wrong one (>>10604176), the one you're looking for is this: https://pastebin.com/Z403k0BV

>>10604156
this looks good
>>10604067
this looks right

This pack for retroarch is easily the best Ive seen: https://forums.libretro.com/t/cyberlab-death-to-pixels-shader-preset-packs/35606

You get very granular levels of customization so you can tweak it exactly to however you want. I really dont think its going to get any better than this, this is the final frontier of CRT shaders. Need to have an HDR capable display for it to work properly.

>>10604179
looks like ass in person

>>10604213
works on my monitor

>>10604152
>This looks like shit

>>10604259
but enough about you

>>10604067
looks profoundly retarded.

>>10604067
you really shouldn't be wasting pixels on fake curvature when you only have 1080p

>>10604067
>>10604141
The future is now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucfPRtV6--c

>>10604067
have to admit, it looks pretty good

is this the new lookin' good thread?

>>10604156
Vignette a bit too strong for my taste but other than that pretty good

Sonic if he GA

>>10606952
sonic if he gameboy

>>10604067
Do you wanna know how I got these glaucomas? My son was a drinker... and a zoomer, and one night he goes off crazier than usual. My wife gets the kitchen knife to defend herself, he doesn't like that... not... one... bit. So, me watching, he takes RetroArch to her, laughing while he does it... he turns to me, and he says, "Why so serious, dad?" He comes at me with RetroArch. "WHY SO SERIOUS, DAD?" He puts the controller in my hands. "LET'S PUT MORE GLOW ON THAT SHADER!" And... why so serious?

>>10604067
Just like I remember
Good job

>>10604067
if i can see the pixel delineation the shader is bad

Is this the best that 1080p can do?

>>10604201
I wasn't expecting this without HDR to just be fuck-you dim

Why isn't it possible to mix sharp-bilinear with crt shaders? Theoretically you should be able to replace the pre-scale with the shader and then simply bilinear up to fill the display, but no matter what I just get shit
>>10607914
Change the conrtrast, it's too low by default if you don't have an HDR display

>>10607949
Bilinear is a waste of time when 95% of shaders have settings to control sharpness/blue

>>10607954
Yeah, but you get this uneven bullshit. I want the shader to work via integer then do the rest separately to get the best possible image that fills my screen

>>10607897

>>10604067
I've started using CRT-Lottes-Fast... "Mask: 3.00" and "Sharpness: 1.00" to get that CRT look I still remember... and I love how this looks and feels!

A part of me wishes I could use THIS shader, but with some glow, though CRT-EasyMode-Halation looks similar enough, I might switch to it I guess.

>>10608331
There's the glow version of lottes (crt-lottes-multipass-glow), too heavy for you?

>>10604201
>based on megabezel instead of guest advance
absolute waste of resources. megabezel is the biggest meme.

>>10608339
Eh... kind of, it's definitely heavier than CRT-Lottes-Fast, though I need to experiment with it some more, never gave it a fair enough shot, maybe my PC can handle long sessions with it better than I expect. Thanks, anon!

>>10608349
try guest advance fast, you can adjust glow and sharpness settings to your liking

>>10608351
here's one example of it trying to imitate the blurry settings from above while also having extra glow and bloom

>>10608356
>>10608351
This looks sweet! Thanks, anon. I'll try it.

>>10604067
Show us the waterfall, coward

>>10607897

>>10607914
I use a similar preset myself. Unironically it looks good to me if I max out the backlight on my regular-ass IPS monitor.

>>10604067
This shit is so fucking corny. None of them look good. You people make countless threads like these yet these screenshots never get any better. Why the fuck don't you just get a tiny CRT and hook it up to your GPU instead of putting so much effort and time into this nonsense, I just don't get it

>>10608675
Why do you bitch about us in every thread? Is it so hard to filter/hide the thread, or you just gotta get your attention fix?

>>10607897
It can do more.

A lot more.

>>10609485
Sexy

>>10608902
>>10609485
What shader please

>>10609693
CRT Guest Reshade port + a couple other pre-shader effects.

a setting with very light scanlines (as opposed to no scanlines which rarely look good imo) for the scanlines haters

>>10609757

>>10609710
I like this one, clean crt without any composhit/rf shennanigans.

>>10608339
I decided to give it a go, and my laptop's running a bit hot, but then again it's old and I really have been negligent with cleaning the vent area on its side, and it probably was already running hot way before that, I need to pay more attention when I do something besides emulating, or when I use a different shader... anyways, thank you! I've given it a shot and it's exactly what I've been wanting!

>>10608351
>>10608356
I gave this one a shot too, overall I liked it, but to be honest CRT-Guest-Advances has so much that I can tinker with that I barely know what to do... I did my best to get it to look how I wanted to still, but to me it didn't look as close to what I wanted when compared to CRT-Lottes-Multipass-Glow. I do find this to be a good shader though, and I get why the options it gives makes it so appealing.

>>10609791
scanlines is all you need

too clean for me desu. actual carts using standard connections look a bit grimy, and if you're not gonna include that grime then may as well just go for clean pixels IMO

pic related, it's my own shader setup I cobbled together for my 480p device.

I don't see much of a point in going crazy with the shaders because as soon as you move at all the illusion that you're looking at a tube is broken.
Just a little bit to make the pixel art look a little less nearest neighbor or smearjob is all you need.

Though I look forward to a time when we have displays that are clocked fast enough they've effectively become low persistence displays regardless of underlying tech.

>>10610096
Looks like 2 phase NTSC with artifacting

>>10610097
>Just a little bit to make the pixel art look a little less nearest neighbor or smearjob is all you need.
If that's all you want just use smuberstep or smootherstep which have been moved to the pixel-art-scaling folder recently. Makes pixel art not too sharp and eliminates shimmering and inconsistent pixel sizes if you're not using integer scaling or if what you're emulating doesn't have square pixels

>>10610270
color artifacting, blargs composite filter, and a very light scan line overlay I made to perfectly fit the screen to avoid scaling patternz

>>10608356

>>10609916
You just have to play a bit with it to understand what's what. The relevant settings for you are horizontal sharpness/substractive sharpness, and all the glow/halation/bloom settings. But if lottes glow works for you, then all the better.

I've tuned another preset based on my preferred guest venom that looks great for pre-rendered backgrounds. Now I favor this one over the ones I used for such cases (like Royale and other flavors of guest). If you've been following these threads you might remember the FF7 screencaps I've posted on them. This one is not as coarse as the others, it's mask/scanline heavy but not as much, so you get a cleaner image and don't have to move further back from the screen like royale usually needs. It makes the backgrounds look nicely rounded and crisp without pixelation, and it's quite versatile too, it looks great for traditional 2D and 3D as well. Perhaps I need to de-tune the glow/bloom settings a little bit but I don't mind them.

for me, it's composite signal recorded on a dvr and then uploaded to gametrailers
ASS!

>>10611328

>>10611328
This reminds me about how that EOP faggot that did that Beacause fan retranslation for FFVII swore up and down that President is his actual name and not a title just because he's called Purejidento in nip rather than the actual word for President they have.

>>10604141
this looks very much how i remember it. drop the config please

>>10611468
It's "crtglow_gauss_ntsc_3phase.glslp" on the CRT folder from the "shaders_glsl" one, I love this one too, very much how I remember it all.

I have this absolutely potato laptop and I'm sort of concerned about shaders and how they make it run way hotter, so I decided to do some tests... I've turned on FPS count, turned off both video and audio synchronization and just kept using a bunch of different shaders, mostly ones with an effect to emulate a CRT's glow, I've been a lot of them during the last few months even, here it is:

GL: Default - 440

GL: CRT_Consumer - 235
GL: CRTGlow_Gauss - 150
GL: CRTGlow_Gauss_NTSC_3Phase - 95
GL: CRT_EasyMode_Halation - 170
GL: CRT_Hyllian_Glow - 135
GL: CRT_Interlaced_Halation - 165
GL: CRT_Lottes - 75
GL: CRT_Lottes_Fast - 240
GL: CRT_Lottes_Multipass - 160
GL: Smuberstep_Glow - 320

Vulkan: CRTGlow_Gauss - 150
Vulkan: CRT_Guest_Fast - 70
Vulkan: CRT_Guest_Fastest - 140
Vulkan: CRT_Lottes_Multipass_Glow - 110

I'm surprised at how low the FPS count was for a few of these which I thought were more light, I'll admit that I have no reason to guess that though, I just assumed out of nothing, I'm also happy that Smuberstep_Glow is so light, always liked it. I've played around with CRT_Consumer a bit and I've got to say, it's looking pretty close to what I like, and I'm getting a low laptop tempeature with it.

>>10604067
>intentionally making your games a blurry mess
Nostalgia is ruining you clowns.

>>10612404
>STOP ENJOYING THINGS WRONG!!!

>>10604067
On the topic of shaders, does anyone else struggle with 'em from game to game? Like, I'll get it to look perfect after some tinkering, just how I want, and then when I try a different game it looks a bit worse, but still good, and then in another game it'll look awful or borderline unplayable.

Damn, it's a pain.

>>10612675
You just gotta keep working to find that shader that never looks bad, even if it's not the outright best in some cases. I have mine, but nonetheless I still find it fun to tweak shaders and see if I can find interesting configurations.

>>10612396
I've messed around with "crt-consumer.glslp" for now and, I have to say, it's looking perfect to me, I was disappointed with how hot some shaders I liked made my old laptop get, others would look bad for its relatively small resolution, and after a lot of these tests I realized that, out of the ones I genuinely liked the look of, and that had glow, it was the lightest one, and my laptop isn't so hot.

I'll probably stay with this for a little while until I inevitably change things up again, I just tinker so much with stuff and it's hard to lose that habit, a lot of the times it's good though, as it improves.

Anyways, usually I like stuff that others don't do, but if by any chance anyone here actually likes it and wants me to post my parameters for this to look how it does, I'll post them in the future too.

>>10613053
I like how it gets more smeared in every new iteration

>>10612749
very nice

>>10614069
>I like how it gets more smeared in every new iteration
"Ah, you think smudgyness is your ally? You merely adopted the smudgyness. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see a clear image output until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding!"

P.S. I don't think I can make crt-consumer.glslp look more smeared than this, or any other shader for that matter, but everyone here's welcome to try it out for some good fun and joking around if you want, so cheers!

>>10614069
>>10614610
Also, this is how Batman - The Video Game (NES) actually looks with my real current setup on the crt-consumer.glslp shader and the parameters I went for, I suppose it's a bit smeared, but it looks clear enough for me and in a way I feel it makes it more smooth as the hard pixels stand out less, it sort of increases the definition and resolution in a way, which is why I love CRTs and the shaders.

>>10612675
A lot of my previous attempts don't work well in Secret of Mana. I never really noticed the palette being too bright in normal play but something about it really blows out the color once the bloom and halation kicks in.

>>10614620
>fake aspect ratio
>smoothing edge filter
>border with reflections
l o o k i n g o o d

>>10612749
What game?

>>10614773
Castlevania SOTN

>>10611653
Seems to have blown out the color gamut though, check out Aladdin's pants there. May want to add the image-adjustment shader from the misc folder, turn down the brightness, then put the CRT shader on top.

>>10604620
Curvature is a meme anyway.
>>10606918
ARGH THE COLOR GAMUT
>>10608372
I wish I could use MDAPT or GDAPT at 50% opacity and then throw a CRT shader on to blend it the rest of the way. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any way to reduce a given shader's opacity unless the shader supplies the option itself, so MDAPT and GDAPT remain ugly.

>>10614862
How do I do that? As in, blend/mix shaders?

I understand the blur and the scanlines and the appeal of crt filters but what do you gain from making it curved? What's the appeal? Why not add sun glare and the sound of your parents screaming at each other to make it more realistic?

>>10614973
I like curvature, you don't need to over-analyze everything

>>10614979
I remember before digital signal when people were buying those new 16:9 TV's but would watch still current 4:3 TV content and movies on it and some people would accept nothing less than stretching everyrhing onto the whole screen.

>>10614995
Still happens

>>10608675
The results are usually bad, sure, but it's fun to experiment for people who like knobs and dials.

>>10610076
PNG with noticeable compression artifacting? What did you use to export this image?

>>10604067
I just use crt-royale and call it a day.

>>10615194
Forgot screenshot

>>10604156
>also what's the point of using shaders without scanlines
I never saw scanlines on American CRTs.

>>10615202
I said scanlines and masks, but should have said scanlines and/or masks, meaning one or the other at the very minimum. Not having both feels like a larp nostalgia for recorded retro content uploaded to the internets, like those guys playing with VHS shaders.

>>10615227

>>10612396
I've decided to run more tests using this method to get a better grasp at shaders and how heavy it might be to run some of them, so the same setup here, I turned on the FPS count to use that as my basis, and then turned off both video and audio's synchronization, starting the test without any of the shaders, and then going one by one. I'm using the GL video driver and tested out all of the CRT shaders in the CRT folder for the .glslp shaders in RetroArch. I must stress that my laptop's old and weak at this point, but I still think this serves as a good comparison between shaders and weight.

I must say that I was surprised by a few of these, some that I though were light turned out to be a bit on the heavy side, and vice versa, with a lot of shaders that I never touched, thinking they were a bit too much for my old laptop too handle, are just as tough to run as the stuff I ran instead of it.

I don't know how accurate this actually is, but I've done my best and think that this is as close as we can get to a somewhat objective comparison, and I hope this can help out at least some of you here in this thread, might do the same for Vulkan and the .slang shaders folder in the future, we'll see.

>>10615227
Dude we fucking get it, stop posting this shit every thread

>>10615869
Are you frustrated?

Team SuperEagle for life

c'mon son step it up

>Reshade shaders make my GPU go from 49C to 70C
>Newest version of Reshade increases lag from 0.200 ms to 6.000+ ms

>>10614972
Yeah, adding individual shaders instead of presets. Though RetroArch is REALLY bad at managing shaders if you're not using presets, so it's kind of a pain. It's like, "ah, finally, I have the perfect tweaks for Shader 1. I'll add Shader 2 now. Wtf all of my tweaks have been reset"
I'm pretty sure that's a bug that's gone unfixed for over a decade at this point.

>>10615874
Is that xBRZ?

>>10617370
>but I don't want to use retroarch nooooooooooooo

>>10617918
using retroarch is like going to brazil

>>10617965
uma delicia

>>10617965
you wouldn't get it

>>10618536
>>10618557
is that guest advance ntsc?

Which one do you like more?

>>10614620
>smoothing filters

>>10617017
Is this playable with a regular controller or do you need something like pic related ideally?

>>10618536
This is a really good screen to test shaders. Sure Sonic is good to test dithered transparency with the waterfall but I feel like this one is better to test how your shader changes the colors

>>10618597
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gijc2Ol3M74

>>10618613
Hmm, looks like it's playable but less than ideal
>It's far from perfect, which is to be expected, but alas. In particular, jumping it a pain in the arse: the second-to-last level, Wild Waterway, is still basically impossible to complete without dying many times due to the imprecise nature of the jumping mechanics in the game, and the analogue stick.

>>10618574
Nope. A tweaked crt-hyllian combined with some other shaders.

>>10618664
Normal hyllian looks nice but the shader itself is lacking in parameters, I can see why you combine it with additional shaders.

>>10618682
Yeah, and yet it's very fast and easy to combine with others shaders.

>>10618703
Why did they make the bird so sexy?

>remove dithering with true color depth
>geometry correction
>increased resolution
>overclock to avoid fps dips
>widescreen enabled
Only way to play ps1 fully 3d games, anything else other than this and you are a doing it wrong.

>>10615874
weirdly enough this feels like the only game that actually looks good with that filter

>>10619303
I feel like half of this stuff depends on the specific game. Ridge Racer 4 looks fine at high res but the Densha de Go games look like ass above native res

>>10619453
a lot of racing games work fine with graphical hacks. the only problem is the fucked aspect ratios for the HUD and menus. oddly enough, if you can hack some games to run at 16:10, the HUDs don't look as bad.

>>10619303
cringe and soulless kill yourself

>>10619559
Because this is better right? Get real fag.

>>10614707
Why do you experience physical pain over how other people play video games?
Doesn't that embarrass you?

>>10618590
It's not a filter though.
Do you even understand the memes you post, or do you just want to fit in that badly?

>>10619630
>It's not a filter though
What do you call it then? A "make my game look like molten shit" shader?

>>10619640
So you don't actually have any idea what you're talking about and you're just shitposting cause this is how you choose to spend your virginity? Ok

>>10618768
what game?

>>10619690
altered beast

>>10611352
I dont have a DVR but i have a composite capture card and OBS, whats the difference?

Lookin' Good

>>10619618
Ah yes, because we the shader fags love to play games without shaders
>>10619627
Edge smoothing really ruins 2D art, fag. I'm not one to get upset over how others play their games usually, as shown by this thread where many meh shaders are posted, to each its own. But edge smoothing is just butchering of the original art and it's like taking a dump on artist intent. It's would be like some new money kid buying a revered original classical painting and then spraying graffiti nonsense over it because he enjoys it like that. Yes, the painting is his, but he just made a crime against humanity.

>>10620094
Shaders... serious business!

>>10620169
Most people's shaders won't turn into memes like >>10615239 or "please clap".

>>10620094
What is the point of playing a fully 3d game with shaders? I understand 2d games where resolution, color depth, perspective correction enhancements don't do much of anything but fully 3d?
If it's so great boot up Dino Crisis and show me how it's supposed to be done.

>>10619871
>Viper GTS
absolutely PATRICIAN tier taste, Anon

>>10620503
I like NTSC shaders for 5th gen 3D. But obviously you won't agree since you price sharpness and resolution over everything. You should emulate the DC version at least since it's "higher" fidelity.

>>10604170
What shader is this? I love the look.

>>10621448
it's an old one that has been posted multiple times https://pastebin.com/k4sF22i0

>>10621492
Thanks!

>>10620503
Makes colors feel less washed out and in the case of games like Resident Evil, it helps make the characters look like they're part of the backgrounds

>>10620503
i feel like shaders are mandatory for any game that uses pre-rendered graphics.

So... how are my absolute CRT-Consumer CHADS doing on this beautiful day? I'm having quite the good time myself, hope you're all doing amazing.

P.S. I turned on the FPS count and turned off all synchronizations, out of curiosity, and got such impressive surprise, the FPS count was stable in over 300 FPS and often 400 FPS, which is almost as much as having no shader, so CRT-Consumer is quite lightweight from what I can tell... so sweet.

>>10620094
Didn't read that wall of seethe. Unironically why do you feel physical pain over how other people play video games?
Is this a healthy way to live in your opinion?

>>10622505
It's lightweight enough that you're likely CPU-bound. Also play the Japanese version of Sonic 1, it's got water-ripple effect and bugfixes :D
https://tcrf.net/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(Genesis)/Revisional_Differences

>>10622547
I feel physical pain when I see shitty ReShade presets and xBRZ.
>>10619303
I think early 3D games really do benefit from increased resolution, almost without exception. I do like dithering but I prefer my dithering in higher-resolution by about 2x. And you can supersample it down and add shaders which is amazing for games relying on pre-rendered backgrounds.

>>10622603
>I feel physical pain when I see shitty ReShade presets and xBRZ.
Your emotional difficulties are not my problem. Also the image you're pissing yourself over is not xBRZ, not that your pain would matter even if it was.

Your anguish, your inability to even exist without screaming your rage into the void that "other people aren't doing it right", is something you alone will have to cope with.

>>10622605
lol it's good I'm teasing, I'm not the seething anon. I have great distaste for most sprite interpolation filters but I also can't judge what people find appealing.

>>10622590
>It's lightweight enough that you're likely CPU-bound.
Is that a good or bad thing?

>Also play the Japanese version of Sonic 1
Will do!

>>10623002
good setup except for that whack curvature shit

>>10623002

If your shader doesn't glow like a motherfucker you are a NIGGER.

>>10623572
PREACH!
I genuinely love these actually, they remind me of that feeling of being in the dark, having only the CRT's lights in the living room, I loved that.
What's your preset/settings?

>>10622505
I wish crt-consumer had a proper glow/halation effect like some other glow/halation shaders, it just looks like a ghosting effect below the mask and doesn't really look like it's glowing at all to me, which is a shame because the rest of this is quite a decent shader with good settings aswell.

>>10624598
Load up crt-consumer
then prepend glow-trails (also found in the crt folder)
1/2

>>10624598
>>10624726
if you want an even stronger glow setting, prepend kawase_glow (found in blurs folder) instead of glow-trails

>>10624737
mario if he gba

>>10624726
>>10624730
Thanks! I kind of suck at this whole mixing and prepending shaders for some reason, it always seems to come off wrong or things don't show up in the folders and stuff, maybe I'm just this brainlet though and can't figure out something simple, I don't know, but I've played around for the last few minutes and it's working out, so I appreciate your input, anon. Have a good one.

>>10624861
Generally you want to prepend simple shaders to complex shaders, or append complex shaders to simple shaders. Doing the reverse tends to fuck up the image (just my general experience, don't take it as rule of law).

In an ideal world, you would modify/add subshaders as new passes, but like >>10617567 here says, it resets all the settings so that sucks. Basically, only use this option if you want to create a complex shader from zero.

>zoomies have been brainwashed into thinking that making your emulation look like a blurry mess is better

>>10622505
Looks like shit lit up by neon.

>>10622647
Since you're crunching so many frames it doesn't matter too much. Can't say either it's good or bad unless other games/emulators are suffering.

>>10625283
It think it's a bad bloom shader, most CRT shaders have ugly bloom. Idk if RA has any good bloom shaders, I don't usually add a shader like that.

>>10622505
>>10625283
Bloom is eye cancer.

why don't you just hook up a crt instead of this?
i don't get it. this seems like a lot of effort on your and the computers part for pretty mid results.

>>10615000
50000%% W I D E

>>10620503
If it's anything made before HD displays became standard in game development, it looks like shit on modern monitors. So for games up to PS2/Xbox/GC era it can help things look a bit more like they did back then on the old crts most people played them on 20+ years ago.

>>10612404

I just setup with a not-too-noticable scanline, without the simulated screen curve or glowing bloom-like filter. Simple as.

>>10624901
Some people take it way too far with the shaders.

>>10623636
It's just stock crt-royale with halation turned up to 30.

>>10623636
And here's a 3D game. This is using 2x resolution and other bullshit that makes autists seethe.

>>10618597
yes, but the entire game is piss easy except for wild waterway which is hard as shit, because when you actually play with a trackball you go a lot slower.

>>10626207
I'm autist without any seethe, though I do seethe that CRT shaders at 640x480 resolution don't look very good unless you have a 4k monitor or higher. I'm still on 1440p.

>>10626207

:^)

>>10615413
I went ahead and did the same for all the .slang shaders with the Vulkan video drivers. I hope it can help making it more clear as to what shaders are more light and which are more heavy, once again all I did was turn on the FPS count and turn off both video and audio synchronizations, then played for a while and wrote down the FPS I got overall, this took some time, but it was worth it.

I get the feeling that .slang shaders with Vulkan are tough to run on lower end machines, at least from what I played, but they seem better overall, so they're worth it if you have better hardware.

If you've got a potato like me, I'd just stick to the GL driver and .glslp shaders, like CRT-Consumer, which ran a lot better for me under this setup, as it got me less FPS on Vulkan and it's .slang one.

>>10626186
Its funny because you can see how shit this filter is compared to the real thing by a comparison image sent just three posts prior. >>10626074

>>10626186
>not passing the dracula eye exam
so close... yet so far
lovely halation though

rookies

>>10626718

>>10626720

>>10626391
Same here, just bantering, fren.
>>10626695
>>10626712
If you zoom in you can clearly see a (badly emulated) beam smeared across 3 or so pixels. It's nowhere near the real thing, though. Maybe this can be improved with some tuning, not sure. it's a super contrived example. The comparison is why I picked that game. Overall it's serviceable IMO.

>>10626712
Also, nice slot mask bro.

>>10626658
feels good to have upgraded my laptop recently, even maximus royale runs fine

the one that you need a NASA computer for is metacrt but then again it's super gimmicky.

>"Phosphors will fix my emulation." As we stared through the slot mask I hear those words again. Readapted, and united under CRT shaders. I swear, these games can never be prepared for the dithering we're about to blend!

I love shaders, /vr/os.

I'm probably going to switch from CRT Consumer to CRT Easy Mode Halation at this point... while I know CRT Consumer runs better on my machine, at least in GL and .glslp, the latter is still the 2nd best in term of performance for me for all of the glow/halation/diffusion/bloom shaders, and I like the effect better in it actually, anyways I've been playing around and I'm quite happy with the look.

I know that the effect might be a bit too much, I don't think any of you needs this to be fair, but I use it because my potato laptop has poor battery life by now and I need to keep the screen so dim.

I want that feel of my childhood CRTs, of a glow on a dark room, with only the CRT on, but I need to keep my screen brightness low, so I shoot up the glow and brightness on my shader, it works.

>>10626836
It's the only one that actually crashed RetroArch for me, which is why I put no FPS value there, its tough to run. I'm glad about your upgrade, anon! A nice laptop's always good for some emulation, I'm thinking of replacing mine this year, it's going to turn 10 years old soon afterall, though I need to save up some money before thinking of going through with this idea of mine... anyways, cheers!

>>10626074

>not playing raw
>not playing at base resolution
Bunch of babies in here.

>>10618587
top right or bottom left

>>10604170
this is pretty much what it looked like on my old tv. nostalgic to look at.

>>10604270
stop being mean pls :(

I'm loving CRT Easy Mode Halation so far, having a really fun time just messing around with all its parameters and testing things. I decided that no scanlines, while fun to experiment with, isn't the look I truly want, so I went back and tried to give it a look closer to my older CRT Consumer preset (>>10622505) which I really liked, but with a nice glow effect, which I exaggerate on purpose too.

As I've mentioned before, I try to keep my laptop on lower screen brightness, so the effect needs a bit of a push for me to perceive it well, on a more lit screen it'll look too much, but for me it's good.

Also, I'm getting a stable 230 FPS on it when the video and audio synchronizations are off, it's less than CRT Consumer, which gives me 400 FPS, but still more than all other glow shaders I've used.

I'm loving the scanlines and mask, the glow, and the overall feel of brightness and definition for graphics that I'm getting... playing around with CRT Easy Mode Halation is a recommendation from me if you've never tried it, it's an excellent shader, and if you don't dig the glow, there's the regular CRT Easy Mode aswell. If anyone wants my preset, I'd be happy to post them here too.

>>10628307
Looks like when I'm playing Sonic and smoking at the same time.

>>10628358
Kek

>>10626658
for being such an ugly shader, crt-lottes sure does take a lot of GPU processing lol. Good references though, thanks shader-autist :D

>>10628307
Turning down my screen brightness I can see what you mean, though I do think the bloom may still be a bit too spread out.

>>10604067
how to achieve this crusty ass 240p look?

>>10628819
Not OP, but ntsc-adaptive and ntsc-simple-hd achieve a similar look. Alternatively, you can tweak guest advance ntsc by disabling scanlines and the mask and it will resemble OP too

>>10628358
I kek'd.

>>10628689
I think CRT Lottes is decent enough, but it really surprised me that it's way more resource heavy than a lot of way better shaders, don't know why that is, but these were the result I got I guess. I hope the list was helpful overall, anon! Cheers.

>>10628691
I agree, though that's on purpose, I really like the bloom effect and it's something I want to be at least somewhat noticeable even when I look at it from afar, and to do that with low brightness I do exaggerate the effect a lot, I just like it I guess...

I also particularly like the halation effect as it's a way of somewhat blending pixels a bit more and getting a more rounded and smooth look, which I appreciate. I'd say this screenshot sums it up so well for me, the bloom is way too much, I agree, but on a dark screen, it looks just right for me, and everything looks quite smooth and round, which feels appropriate considering what this one's based on, more accurate to the source material in a way, especially in cutscenes really.

>>10628689
>>10629930
It's probably poorly optimized. The main draw of it was the unique mask layout, which sort of looks like a horizontal slot mask and works decently well at 1080p. Said mask has since been incorporated into guest's shaders, and I think Hyllian's as well, so no real reason to use it if you ask me.

>>10628691
Now that I've played some more I can see what you mean, for a few titles it's way too bright, for a dim screen aswell, it's still too much, so I went and turned it down just a bit, it's looking good.

>>10629964
I suppose, which is a shame, because I do like it somewhat, especially the glow variant that I've tested out and actually runs a bit better, but it's likely the poor optimization goes for all of them, so maybe I could run the variant I like better if all of them were better optimized, maybe one day they get updated and improved in that regard, it really ran poorly for what it was, at least for me.

>>10604067
sonk the honk

>>10630615
Much better! :D
>>10629930
CRT Lottes fucks with the colors too much, seemingly no matter what I do. I've added all sorts of pre- and post-processing shaders to try to fix it but no dice. I do really like the mask it provides.
>>10631535 >>10631538
This one looks REALLY clean. What's this one? The only thing I'd tweak is disabling the rainbow effect since I don't have any nostalgia for it.

Hoy lads, I recently lucked into a gaming pc and I can think of no better way to put a 3090 through its paces than to choke it out with shaders. Any recommendations on where to start? More importantly, is it even worth attempting on a standard HD screen?

>>10612749
explain to me the purpose of the random brown pixel on her shoe

>>10619313
yoshi looks high, baby mario looks like an sbk character, and you're retarded

>>10631580
It's a secret! :P

>>10631661
That's the buckle. Smooths out on a crt. Like the single red pixels used for draculas eyes in SotN

>>10631664
Nah it looks fine.

>>10631683
>:( Now I have to reinstall RetroArch after years of not using it to find out.

>>10631580
>What's this one
Not him but I would venture to say it's royale

>>10631683
If you're not telling, then who's gonna tell? The government hides things from us, you hide things from us... Is there even anyone in whom we can trust?

>>10631580
>Much better! :D
I'm glad you've liked it, anon.

>CRT Lottes fucks with the colors too much, seemingly no matter what I do. I've added all sorts of pre- and post-processing shaders to try to fix it but no dice. I do really like the mask it provides.
I see, that's a shame, anon... what are you currently using? Are you happy with your current setup?

>>10631580
>>10632726
Again, if you like Lotte's mask, just use guest's shaders. It's Mask 1 IIRC.

>>10632738
There are four Lottes' masks in all variations of guest's shaders. Even gdv-mini has them. However, I'm not gonna lie, I find pretty jarring that people are using those masks with sub-900p resolutions, when they are for 4k (or 1440p minimum). You can even individually see the phosphors. For a resolution that low, you may be better with no mask or perhaps a cgwg one. I don't know if even a Triniton mask can work properly (picrel is one at 1080p, it's good, but still doesn't blend perfectly).

>>10632787
Mask 1 is the unique horizontal slot-style mask that originated with Lottes, which is meant to work well at 1080p (though I don't much care for it tbqh). Mask 2 is a boring old Trinitron mask, the same as Mask 6 in fact. Masks 3 and 4 are supposed to be shadow masks, but indeed they're too coarse at 1080p, especially Mask 4. Much finer shadow masks can be achieved by taking Masks 5 or 10 and setting the Shadow Mask parameter to 1.

Whats a good all around shader for PSX, I honestly don't want to go around setting up shaders depending on whether the game is 3D or has pre rendered backgrounds, just a CRT shader that gets the job done at 1080p.
I was lucky enough to find that crt geom deluxe with a few tweaks worked perfectly for MAME, but PSX eludes me.

>>10632849
See which one you like better https://imgur.com/a/ZCUWQur I'll upload the preset if you tell me

>1. Raw
>2. Custom Guest advance with LUT and tuned to NTSC-J palette. This one plays nicely with all kinds of games.
>3. Some royale preset one anon posted long ago. Strong mask but it works well with pre-rendered backgrounds and generally does a good job with all kinds of settings but the mask and the colors are quite strong.
>4. Guest advance tuned to mimick megabezel preset settings. Sharp looking but you might not like that sharpness for 2D games. Looks good for detailed 2D arcade games.
>5. custom Guest Dr. Venom. This is the one I use the most and it's very versatile. Specially great for 2D but good with 3D too.
>6. tuned lottes multipass with LUT settings + NTSC-J cold looking palette. Soft looking and goes well with everything but I could never tune the colors in lottes shaders to make them stand out more. I don't use it.
>7. custom flavor of guest advance ntsc. modified to be sharper than the usual smeared ntsc shaders.
>8. a custom royale preset. I liked using this one long ago but haven't seen much use lately, as I hate the long time it takes for royale to load.
>9. a custom guest advance preset made to be soft looking, with very light and barely noticeable scanlines.
>10. a modified version of the previous dr. venom shader, with more noticeable mask and scanlines. works well with everything, specially pre-rendered backgrounds

>>10631592
I can say, at least from my experience, shaders do look better on a 4K resolution, but 1080p or even 720p can look decent depending on your shader. I'd say just go on RetroArch and start with the 1st shader on the CRT folder, then press M and N on your keyboard to switch to the next one, or back if you want to compare, keep going one by one, I know that at some point you'll find one you like.

>>10619313
I bet Okami would look good too

>>10632818
By the way, some Triniton masks set the tint of the picture heavily towards green or magenta. I've never seen any CRT with an effect that accentuated. I imagine those masks are just a starting point for further adjustments, but I've never came up with anything interesting for them.

>>10633047
I'll take number 4, thanks a lot anon.

>>10633186
here you go senpai https://pastebin.com/BMSM3EDg

>>10633137
I don't know where this myth of shaders having no benefits on anything below 1080p comes from. I remember when I started emulating, using scanlines and ntsc filters on Kega Fusion in a window running the game at 2x, and it still improved the image.

>>10633205
Indeed, I also used the filters and scanlines that KEGA Fusion offered and liked the result on my laptop, with that 1366x768 resolution most still have even today, and I liked it, it works just fine.

Of course 4K and even 8K if you have access to it will make it look better... but not a requirement.

>>10633205
Phosphor layouts (shadow masks). They need a minimum resolution to be properly displayed. Below that, quality starts to degrade, and a low-enough resolution can make they look bad.

Scanlines and NTSC simulations do not suffer from that, though having a higher resolution helps them to scale better. Basically, if your shader does not attempt to recreate the phosphors, you're mostly unaffected regardless of your resolution.

>>10633259
No one denies they look better at 4K but the attitude of many is to scoff at people who use them for lower res screens. It's a stupid attitude imo. Sometimes I will game in a window running the game at 3x instead of fullscreen at 4x, and shaders still improve the experience, even if there's less benefit.

>>10632067
[hspack-24-01-25-r1](https://easyupload.io/apo5qm))

>>10633294
>shaders still improve the experience, even if there's less benefit
For anything, but masks? They sure do, even at lower resolutions. The masks themselves? They only bring down the quality. Practically all shaders which have masks let you disable them and enjoy all the other benefits they provide, so why not just do that? If, someday you get a higher resolution screen, then you enable the mask back. It's advice, not scoff. But you do you.

Just like how it used to be

>>10633832
guest could never do this

>>10630774
snokk the hokk

>>10633832
A dev couldn't intend more than that.

I'm so glad I discovered reshade, I just wish I had it sooner

https://imgur.com/a/6KfTiYK
which one of these should I go with? I have a hard time deciding.

>>10615413
>>10626658
I was hoping somebody would do some kind of test like this, fucking nice.
Could you test the Koko-aio ones? It's in the Bezel directory. It would be interesting to see them with and without bezel/ambient light/mirroring/curvature settings on a potato laptop, I think it might do pretty good

>>10635236
kek, do you want to destroy his potato laptop? the bezel shaders are super intensive

>>10635253
Runs on my shitty handheld. Megabezel, Royale and Guest are just unoptimized bloated garbage

>>10635265
your shitty handheld is probably more powerful than his laptop

since we're at it, is there an easy way to toggle integer scaling without going to the main menu? you can't assign a shortcut in the shortcuts menu.

>>10635279
Shaders worth a damn have their own setting for scaling, or better yet, doesn't need them at all.

>>10635285
>doesn't need them at all.
I like using integer scaling when playing closer to the screen.
>Shaders worth a damn have their own setting for scaling
still a hassle and probably more so than the current way to do it globally.

>>10634664
I'd recommend playing in fullscreen over window mode, since your scanlines are looking uneven, it might be due to the resolution. Well, anyways I'd say that, among those I like the 1st one better.

>>10635236
I'm glad you've liked it, anon! I could try, but I'm short on time this weekend and, from the little I played around with these shaders, some of them fail to load, and when they do it takes about 10 or 15 seconds and it makes me think RetroArch's crashing, I think my laptop can handle it, but it'd take a toll on it for sure as, again from the few I played around with, none got past 100 FPS, so I have no truly light shaders for my laptop to get a bit of rest inbetween the tougher ones, so I think it's probably best for me to not do it, but even if I wanted to it wouldn't be viable for a few days.

Still, the good thing about these tests is that the execution's pretty simple, just turn on the FPS as you turn off audio and video synchronizations, it should work fine, and then you can test all of the shaders that interest you, while skipping those you don't care all that much about, it's simple.

Anyways, if you'd still like me to do it, just hit me up on the next thread, I can try it next week if I have a bit more time, it's just this weekend that I won't have much of a breathing room sadly.

>>10635253
>>10635265
>>10635279
Indeed, my laptop is turning 10 years old later in this year, it has 4GB of RAM and 512GB storage, also a quad-core 2.4GHz processor, Intel i3 from 2014, if you were to get, for example. the most basic entrance level smartphone by Samsung, the Galaxy A05, you'd get the same RAM and a octa-core processor, my laptop's weaker than some of the most basic smartphones around by now.

Also, the vents are full of dust, I really need to open it up at some point just to clean it from top to bottom, or else it'll start to heat up way too much. I need to take much better care of it.

>>10634664
>color correction so fucked up it's changing pink to orange

RetroArch has some weird presets man (this one is the ScaleFX with scanlines, blur and Bloom one)

>>10635341
Probably a recolor hack, there are many of those

>>10635379
Okay, so it's just bad taste and should be ridiculed anyway.

>>10635318
No problem at all, I appreciate your effort, it's genuinely a good test, some shaders are more taxing than what they seems to be, bring it up more on these threads.
I have a even older laptop, I could do some tests on it too if I wasn't a fucking LAZY NIGGER

I'm the op, what game you wanna see with my best shader of all time?

>>10635515
Zelda 2, if it doesn’t make the sword shimmer in the intro it’s pure shit

>>10635569

>>10635592
Holy shit, this actually looks amazing

>>10635592

>>10635623
vidyas never looked like this, >>10635592
is way better

>>10635489
I'm glad you liked the tests, anon. I might do more in the future, we'll see, and I'll try posting these ones I future threads too. I don't think you're lazy, life's tiresome for all of us, you're just tired and other things you have to do have been too much.

Don't be so harsh on you, life's tough, if you get the motivation it'd be cool to see results, but don't push yourself too hard.

Cheers!

>>10604067
this is the best shader

>>10635808

>>10635814

>>10635341
I don't like pink haired link

>>10635814
>>10635819
not retro

>>10634443
Don't you get lag from it though?

>>10635808
Games never looked like that in person

>>10635938
I never noticed any lag and I play fighters

>>10635592
Does the sword dance though?

>>10635515
>>10604067
This shader would not work well with later SNES games that ran at higher resolutions like Donkey Kong Country and Super Mario Kart

>>10636080
Looks good to me

>>10636087
looks disgusting

>>10636092
that's how I remember my tv looking like.
I've tried the more "accurate" filters and I don't like them. Stock crt royale or this look the best to me.

Where's the smuberstep anon? are you proud of my shader?

>>10636196
>>10636203
looks nothing like a real tv back when those games launched

>>10636196
This is how it should look kids

>>10636245
I played these games way later in the mid/early 2000s. That's where most of my memories are from, I don't remember the exact crt I had but I remember it being kind of similar to this.
I know it's not the crt/filter these games were made for, but I prefer this look much more. Having to look at accurate filters with the blur and everything makes my head hurt lol.
>>10636257
looks decent, what filter are you using?

>>10636286
my own custom made filter

>>10636286
accuracy is a meme mostly. burgers think "accurate" meant dogshit image quality while I grew up as a PALfag and I can't stand the smeared ntsc feel. games and tvs didn't look uniformly the same back then. I remember having two tvs in home and I preferred to game in the small one because it looked much better than the fuckhuge CRT we had in the main room.

>>10636257
CRTs aren't pixelated.

>>10636257
>can't stand the smeared ntsc feel
yeah I think it looks really weird and annoying. It's how I would imagine a person with really weak eyesight would see video games when they weren't wearing glasses lol. I get that the game itself wasn't supposed to be seen in high quality, but this is just complete overkill.
I had a few tvs at my house, and they all did look pretty different. I remember i used to switch around on all of them and at one point had different consoles plugged in to each.

>>10636381
You are seeing this effect in a still picture which is compressed and in different size

>>10636381
also meant for >>10636360
>>10636382
yeah, I would say this filter isn't even bad and looks alright. I meant to reply to the other anon.

>>10636286
>what filter are you using?
You can achieve the same look with ntsc-adaptive, if that's not what he's using.

Shader comparison using gdv-mini. Same scenes, same settings, only difference is the mask used, just for illustration.

Picrel: cgwg mask.

Shader comparison using gdv-mini. Same scenes, same settings, only difference is the mask used, just for illustration.

Picrel: lottes mask #2 (Triniton-style, aperture grille)

>>10636538
>>10636539
the dithering tho

>>10636546
gdv-mini isn't a shader made for handling that.

>>10636203
Hey! It's cool to be remembered from time to time, so thanks. I've actually made the switch already, from smuberstep-glow to crt-consumer and then crt-easymode-halation, your setup looks pretty close to what I'm running at the moment, so I definitely like it, anon! It's good to see some fellow glow fans.

>>10636286
>>10636360
Agreed.

>>10636587
Nta, but I won't forget you, smuberstep anon. You're a nice, down-to-earth guy. Hope to still see your posts and screenshots around.

>>10635236
God please. The Koko-aio 4.1 NTSC-1 is my personal favorite shader for 5th gen consoles, but I can't stand the bezel itself what with the reflections and a giant white glare on the top right. Even when I was younger, I played without any lights on my CRT because I despised glare. Anybody how to get the shader settings on that one without the border shit + the glare?

>>10636953
actually I'm honestly willing to keep everything else about it besides the glare on the top right. I don't know much about shaders, I've only dipped my toes into it recently but if I can just remove that then I'll be golden.

>>10636539

I like to run my PS1 games at 6x resolution 2k. Recently discovered reshade and am unsure how heavy a shader to use. Heavier shaders make the HUD elements on games look a lot better but kind of remove the point of rendering games at a higher resolution, though some earlier games have jagged low poly counts so its not that bad.

What do you anons think looks best? also check>>10634443

>>10637456
>>10634443

Is it just me or does crt-consumer look way better than all if these other advanced/heavy ones like royale, guest, etc.
It looks almost 1:1 to the last crt I had.

>>10637541
Consumer and hyllian look very good in their stock preset form, their problem is the lack of parameters. Guest doesn't look bad in stock form, and it's so configurable you can make it work very well with just a few changes. Royale is for the mask fetishists and it works better the more resolution you have.

>>10637583
Consumer look too dark here.

>>10637649
change the gamma, bro

>>10637672
I know you can tweak any shader params. I was just commenting how the default values are OFF.

Tuned hyllian a little bit and added grade lut. I'm still disappointed that the shader doesn't include a parameter to make the image just a little bit blurrier, but anyway, it looks fine.

Hyllian is great, but falls flat in two points:
1. Can't be made brighter in a less destructive way, like some other shaders (guest, royale, easymode, zfast-crt, gdv-mini, geom-mini...);
2. Doesn't have a scanline cutoff option (hardcoded or customizable), so the picture looks strange when content outputs 480i.

hyllian, já que você lurka por aqui mesmo, não tem planos pra dar uma atualizada no teu shader?

>>10637456
>>10637487
If you're going to be using a CRT shader, use downsampling. You still get the antialiasing benefit of the higher rendering resolution, but it works better with CRT effects.

>>10636818
Thank you very much, anon! It means a lot. I plan on keep posting screenshots from time to time, also those FPS tests whenever I can make them no problem.

Cheers!

>>10637981
>use downsampling
No, don't do this. Don't turn your PS1 games into blurry messes resembling N64 games. It's soul destroying.

>>10637924
I'm sure if you get the latest advancements, you can get brighter pictures: https://easyupload.io/w7ryic

Emulating screen curvature and vignetting is for homosexuals.
>>10626074
>>10627065
Oh look that meme disproven by official artwork

>>10638019
>no teeth
And they call it "official artwork"?

>>10638019
>>10626074
>>10627065
Op here, this is how he is supposed to look like ya ding dongs

>>10637981
>>10637992
>do this
>dont do this
The only reason I dont use downsampling is because it doesnt work when rendering at 2k. Do my current shaders need it?

>>10638294
>Do my current shaders need it?
No. Downsampling is the biggest meme and it was made only because the n64 kids get a panic attack when they see unfiltered polygons.

>>10638301
In Duckstation the downsample option lets you only downsample the 2D elements while leaving the polygons untouched

>>10638310
>downsample the 2D elements
Which you don't need either, unless you really really like blur because you grew up with the N64. And if you do use shaders, which is the point of this thread, it's the stupidest fucking shit ever to activate 2D downsampling.

>>10638404
>How it should really look

>>10638417
I've never seen a CRT look like this in my entire life

>>10638426
Anon is going by his memory of captured footage uploaded to the internets and trying to gaslight us into thinking that actual CRTs didn't have phosphors smoothing and blending the pixels nicely

This is how it actually looked like, chud.

This is how it actually looked, chud.

>>10638451
Just like I intended.

>>10638346
Alright then out of these two shaders which would you play with>>10637487

there are new crt guest shaders for reshade
https://forums.libretro.com/t/crt-guest-advanced-hd-and-ntsc-for-reshade/41880/52

>>10637487
None. Your entire setup is bad. Either pick up-res or pick shaders. Doing both works bad, unless it's 2x the resolution at most (thus mimicking 480i content). In your game, the only 3D elements are the fighters themselves, everything else is 2D. And the Tekken 2 models are designed well enough to display in original resolution. I recommend avoiding upresing and downsampling in this specific game. Upres only in full 3D games.

But anyway, this is just a matter of opinion after all. If it looks good to you then that's the final say, even if it's a real L O O K I N ' G O O D preset.

>>10638464
forgot pic

>>10638464
alright well here they are in action in another game
>>10637456
I honestly notice minimal improvement when upscaling beyond 2x anyway might take your advice

>>10638469
ew. no thanks

poor chunners

>>10638436
>phosphors smoothing and blending the pixels nicely
id did, if you were touching the tv screen with your nose

>>10631535

>>10638581
I know shit about competitive play, but, for casuals, Hsien-Ko kicks ass. She has good range and can throw lots of stuff onto the opponent. Her forward + punch even works as an anti-air. Fun to play with, annoying to play against.

really it's just whatever makes you happy. But even the best shader will not compare with a basic composite CRT, viewed in person. Old hat, I know, but it must be said in every shader thread. Sorry nerds

>>10638118
>no teeth
That's right, zoom zoom. From an artbook

>>10631535
>>10638686
You know that water fall is blended because of the Genesis' shit composite encoding right? You know this has been covered a million times before, right?

>>10618597
i'd recommend a trackball anyway, my wrist has thanked me for switching. I use one of the vertical kensingtons

>>10636953
>>10636979
It's in the fucking settings my guy. Just scrolls until you find it, everything is configurable with these shaders

>>10637981
>>10638346
I'm curious, can you do a comparison with downsampling + shader, and then the same scene with the same shader without the downsampling at native res?

I don't know anything about shaders and I'm kind of a retard, but can someone explain to me what a mask is? Like you have different mask types and stuff in shader settings. The shader I use goes from -1 to 8 and it seems to change brightness.

>>10614610
>crt-consumer.goyslop

>>10639014
No.
Hope this helps.

This is crt-consumer. 2x upscale. Really nice shader as another anon said.
Like the good old Sony days.

Native resolution.

>>10639028
Here you go, anon. I hope this helps:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_mask

>>10639060
based

>>10639028
The mask is the phosphor of the CRT. Different CRTs had different types of masks. It's something you're not gonna notice much with shaders if you don't play at very high resolution and take a really close look to the screen.

>>10639073
>>10639079
ty

>>10639014
Thing is, if you downsample 2D (adaptive mode), you trick the shader into thinking it's higher res content so the shader doesn't even work right. You end up with a blurry image for 2D graphics. It's mostly for people who don't use shaders and don't wanna look at a raw image, but at that point it's more efficient to use a bilinear filter.

If you choose 3D downsampling then the shader works fine and the 2D elements should be unaltered, so they should look "right", just with the 3D models smoothed. Take a look at this gif, the 2D backgrounds remain the same, just the models change.

>>10638913
D-Did you just called me "zoom-zoom"? I can't believe you intentionally sought to hurt my feelings...

>>10639097
Here's a fully 3D game using 3D downsample. It looks like shit without the shader, and the downsampling description warns you against using it with fully 3D options, recommending it instead for hybrid 2D/3D games like the ones using pre-rendered backgrounds. Shaders do improve the look of a downsampled 3D game (it's an absolute mess without it), but nonetheless downsampling heavily alters the feel of the graphics. As I said, I prefer my PSX games to look like the PSX and not the N64. Blockiness and jaggies are part of the charm.

>>10639014
>>10639097
Here's a fully 3D game using 3D downsample. It looks like shit without the shader, and the downsampling description warns you against using it with fully 3D options, recommending it instead for hybrid 2D/3D games like the ones using pre-rendered backgrounds. Shaders do improve the look of a downsampled 3D game (it's an absolute mess without it), but nonetheless downsampling heavily alters the feel of the graphics. As I said, I prefer my PSX games to look like the PSX and not the N64. Blockiness and jaggies are part of the charm.

Another hybrid 2D/3D example, the setting where downsampling has more of a "justification".

>>10638464
>Either pick up-res or pick shaders
This. The only exception is if you downsample back to the native res

>>10639097
>>10639123
>>10639146
Very insightful, thank you anon. But as I expected, it don't look bad at all, I too prefer the blockness, in fact I fucking hate how N64 looks (with has more to do with how they "art" the textures imo), but this definitely looks the better alternative compromise to upres, that the only logical application would be for the AA (which you might as well not use any shaders at all anymore), so this fixes the the aliasing but retains "look" (I mean, more than the bazillion res anyway), and definitely helps with the 2D/3D mixing. The shader is a must, yes
Again, thanks anon

>>10604067
I have a job

>>10639668
You can always quit, you know.

>>10639879
Without shader for comparison

>>10639218


Looking good!
Lovely game.

>>10639879
Too much bloom and wrong aspect ratio.

>>10640101
>wrong aspect ratio
4:3 wasn't ever a real aspect ratio

>>10639879
Looks good mate
>>10640101
enjoy your black bars

>>10639879
>visible dithering
I sleep

>>10640198
ntsc composite looks like shit, burger
>ugh le soul... ugh my nostalgia...

>>10640214
now do it with a proper shader

>>10640245
ya like?