/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10620203
You spelled entarteinment wrong

>>10620212
It's not my picture, took it from another thread.

There is no best setup. It's all subjective and depends on what you actually want out of your emulation experience.

This thread WILL devolve into senseless bickering.

>>10620203
It's the moment you don't know anymore if anon is trolling or not.

>>10620215
But what's objectively a good setup? I want to hear what people use before I buy things.

>>10620225
Make sure to get a high-end PVM if you want to actually enjoy retro games. If it's going for less than $500 on Ebay, it's garbage.

>>10620236
I can't find any big PVMs close by though, I don't think shipping one would be a good idea.
If I go CRT, I think I'll have to go with local TVs, plenty of free 32inch, etc Sony Trinitron consumer sets and the likes.

>>10620225
There is no objectively good setup. Don't you understand that? There is no right and wrong when it comes to experiencing media. It's about personal preference through and through.

Anyone who tells you there IS an objectively right way to experience something is projecting their own personal preference onto you, and that's fine and good, but you should really think for yourself about what YOU want out of emulation.

Is it convenience? Is it accuracy? Is it portability? Can't you reason this kind of thing out yourself?

>>10620225
Theres no such thing. Your setup will determine which one runs best, not the opposite. Theres no magic solution that makes everything run perfect everywhere

>>10620249
MiSTer exists

>>10620203
>use crt for ((accuracy))
>emulate anyway

>>10620269
>CRT for accuracy
Lol wut?
People use CRTs because they look good for standard definition content dude

>>10620254
>believing the mister meme

>>10620269
>motion
>latency
and >>10620275
why not use a CRT?

>>10620203
I can never decide to name my rom folders the full system name or its abbreviation.

Best? Well good luck with that fool's errand.

Good enough for me (and maybe (you))? Have a couple Wiis with a bunch of controllers that I break out when I or my friends and I want some hits of nostalgia.
Is every emulated game on the platform running accurately? Fuck if I know, and I don't care. I find all of your nitpicking on accuracy to be both trivial and tiresome.
One of the annoyances is the amount of controllers you need for a Wii to be able to play the full gamut of games available. However some emulators, and nintendont allow you to use a wider variety of controllers including random USB controllers, with that you can get wireless converters to use Xbox or Playstation controllers.
I've heard it outputs 240p, which you all seem to find very cool.

>>10620225
Just start with whatever PC and controllers you already own before you even think about doing anything beyond that. If you're not satisfied with the setup then take a good, hard look at the things you aren't satisfied with and go from there.

>>10620524
It's not nitpicking if it can't even run most emulators at full speed with decent accuracy.

>>10620203
I'm so disappointed my CRT PC monitor died. Surely there are people out there than can fix them, right?

>>10620963
Yeah, if the tube is okay, then sure.
Also just spend a few minutes every day looking for a new CRT and you'll find one in no time.

>>10620225
Objectively a good setup...

No.

Ideally good set up. It would be ideal if every game ran no matter what.

Imo. That become ls the objective: Sorting what works from what doesn't.

>>10620968
You can emulate pretty much any library to 99.99% extent with a good PC, up to the 7th gen, that's where compatibility drops right now and even then it's still pretty good.

>>10620203
>>10620212
Indeed.
The best Retro Entertainment Centre is....
THE WII

100% Epic CRT Goodness

>>10620976
What makes the Wii a better pick than a PC?

>>10620997
It is real hardware, so out of principle and nostalgia it checks more than one box .
It emulates PSX downwards, and has an amazing graphic emulation hub called WiiFlow which lets you visualize all your games sorted by console type, with boxart, etc...

The Wii is also native GameCube and Wii hardware, so it is not emulation in that regard, yet it allows for HDDs so you can store all the libraries there.

The emulators proper are also well optimized, specially the PSX, which has been optimized and updated (WiiStation) as currently as a month ago, making most of the PSX library fully playable at 100% speed.

And well... it is also CRT native. It has Composite and Component outputs, so you can also plug it to an HD Screen to achieve 480p out of Wii and Gamecube games....

Do not forget native 240p games run by the Virtual Console (official emulators) as well as the HomeBrew emulators (240p is called Classic/NoFilter in the graphics options).

So if you do not like the shaky interlaced look, you can opt for real 240p.

So yeah...

And all that without going into running Series and Movies from the 90s in their native resolutions, through a CRT, like they were meant to be seen.

It is surprising how good Anime and Cartoons in general look at 480i when ran through a CRT.

>>10620961
That statement reaches beyond the just the Wii to be more clear. I'm aware the Wii has some serious faults when it comes to certain platforms.

But what does absolute accuracy have to do with enjoyment? Anyone care to opine on that?

>>10620997
>>10621059

Oh, and controls. If you get the backwards compatible Wii as you should, you can connect wired GameCube controllers to the console, for precise input games that might get handicapped by the wireless lag of the Wii controllers.

You cannot emulate playing Super Smash Bros Melee with 4 real controllers in a CRT or even HD Screen, with friends or family... the controllers are simply superb.

I have a classic controller I got for emulators, but after realizing I could simply get a GameCube controller with a cable extender to play from my bed or couch, without need for wireless controllers, I did not look back.

My classic controllers are gathering dust since I got the GameCube Controller cable extenders. Which are also cheap. Like 5 bucks or something.

>>10620203
Making an arcade CRT cabinet (even bartops are fine) with mame roms in it and the ability to stream your games from computer to the cab and using a controller of your choosing just for that unadulterated retro kino.

>>10621059
It's only real hardware for GC and Wii games though. Everything else is emulated, including VC.

>>10621059
>>10621071
True but...

>You cannot emulate playing Super Smash Bros Melee with 4 real controllers in a CRT or even HD Screen, with friends or family...
You certainly can.

>>10621108
Yes, I mean.. sure you can get USB/Switch GameCube controllers and emulate the gamecube, but it is soulless.

>>10621116
You can get adapters too and use real GC controllers.
As long as it's a CRT TV with real controllers, does it actually matter?

>>10621132
Connecting the controllers to the real hardware has a certain appeal, something about them not being USBs... they are really retro objects, from an era before USBs everywhere, when every single cellphone model had their own proprietary charger... Man I feel old.

But yeah, I am talking about a fetish here, an object of desire, a mystification of the object.
The gamecube has way more soul in that regard. But whereas I used to hate the aseptic sterile white of the Wii, now I appreciate it for its minimalism. The cube is gorgeous tho.

>>10620976
Based

>$20 TV Stick
>OTG cable
>cheap USB drive
>Genesis bluetooth controller
>secondhand Vizio flatscreen
Idk if it's the best, but it's pretty good

>>10622653
Kek

>>10621059
>It is real hardware
Only as far as GameCube and Wii games. For everything else, it's no more "real hardware" than a laptop running RA is.

>>10620203
A PC.
You already have one and it's almost guaranteed to run everything up through 6th gen no problem.
Get an active HDMI -> VGA/YPbPr adapter if you NEED a CRT, but shaders are close enough these days unless you sit 1 inch from your monitor, which you don't.

>>10622708
shaders don't fix latency and motion though and most modern screens aren't 4:3

>>10622708
>Get an active HDMI -> VGA/YPbPr adapter if you NEED a CRT
What's a good HDMI to component adapter that does 240p?

>>10622719
>most modern screens aren't 4:3
So don't stretch the image. If you haven't figured out how to configure base level options like that, it's really nobody's problem but yours.

>>10622720
I don't think any go below 480i, sadly.
But something I used to do with my old CRT monitor was output to 480p and use a basic interlacing shader, which really just blanked out every other line. It was indistinguishable from a real 240p image.

>>10622721
but black bars are ugly, specially if you don't have backlight zones or an oled

>>10622735
That dims the picture though compared to real 240p.

>>10622708
>>10622720
>>10622735
If you want 15kHz component, you have to go DP/HDMI (I recommend DP) to VGA(RGB) first and then VGA(RGB) to a component transcoder. Depending on the transcoder, you might have to join the sync signals first, many just have normal RGB SCART input for example.

>>10622736
So get an OLED? Though, even with an IPS it's a worthwhile tradeoff to have a larger screen than you'd ever get with a CRT (4:3 on an 80" 16:9 display equates to ~65") and use something you already have in the living room.

>>10622738
Over VGA, none of the blacked-out lines bled into the lit lines, so they weren't darkened at all. It was identical to what I got on the same monitor at 240p. But yeah, I can see that being an issue on something that isn't a PC monitor.

>>10622758
>Over VGA, none of the blacked-out lines bled into the lit lines, so they weren't darkened at all. It was identical to what I got on the same monitor at 240p. But yeah, I can see that being an issue on something that isn't a PC monitor.
It isn't identical at all. I have used CRT multi-synch monitors and compared 240p to 480 with various methods of adding the black lines and they look notably worse.

>>10622771
>It isn't identical at all.
Don't know what you're doing wrong, but it looked the same to me. Skill issue, I guess.

>>10622758
>Over VGA, none of the blacked-out lines bled into the lit lines, so they weren't darkened at all. It was identical to what I got on the same monitor at 240p. But yeah, I can see that being an issue on something that isn't a PC monitor.
The overall picture is dimmer.

It was talked about here just yesterday.
>>10621675
>>10621731

>>10622771
They look very similar, but you loose brightness.

>>10620203
where do I get a good CRT like that?

>>10622653
I use a a Chromecast HD with Google TV(tm) on my HD screen, paired to a 8bitdo Arcade Stick, and Lemuroid to play my MAME SHMUPS.

It is neat, lol.

>>10622698
Yes, but all the Homebrew emulators in the Wii and 90% of the Virtual Console ones have a 240p mode to play through a CRT, the way the games were meant to be played, in all crisp pixel chunkiness, no interlaced blurriness, no flicker...

Can a trivial and cheap PC (as trivial and cheap as a second hand Wii) output 240p through Component cables into a CRT?

This is why the Wii is an absurdly great option, it is absurdly cheap for what it can do for the retro-lover and CRT-lover.

The Wii does not live in the Limbo. The Wii IS the Limbo between Analogue and Digital.
It will output 240p for a CRT or 480p for an HD Screen.

I bought an OLED TV and love it but went back to emulating on an IPS monitor because I realized I hate playing retro games on a giant ass TV, it unironically feels comfier on a smaller screen. If they make affordable 24” OLED monitors in 5 years I’ll get one.

>>10623614
Being able to output 240p is not what the term "real hardware" means.

>>10623659
Playing Wii and GameCube games on a Wii is what the term real hardware means, swiftwit.

Is Wii + rp4 the best ghetto crt combo?

>>10623668
So then why'd you respond to >>10622698 as if you were correcting some fundamental misunderstanding? You seem to agree that everything they said is factual.

>>10623579
5 yurobux off local sales sites

>>10620203
Pc with gtx 980s so you can plug a crt into it and double your scan lines.

>>10623614
>Can a trivial and cheap PC (as trivial and cheap as a second hand Wii) output 240p through Component cables into a CRT?
If you use RGB, like a TV with SCART in or a PVM with RGB input, it's easier and cheaper, if you use component it will require a component transcoder, but those are cheap too these days, like 15 USD.

>>10623826
Don't need to linedouble and you'd only need a older GPU if you want to do interlaced modes too.

>>10623837
>Don't need to linedouble and you'd only need a older GPU if you want to do interlaced modes too.
(talking about using a CRT TV, not a VGA CRT monitor of course)

>>10623807
>Being this anal and conflictive.

I was adding to my argument. Go fight with your wife.

I wrote in the first post you quoted (>>10621059
)the following:
The Wii is also native GameCube and Wii hardware, so it is not emulation in that regard, yet it allows for HDDs so you can store all the libraries there.
I literally wrote that.

To which you quoted my post to say:
> Only as far as GameCube and Wii games. For everything else, it's no more "real hardware" than a laptop running RA is.


So I am baffled at your childish projection when you say, all mighty and high:

>So then why'd you respond as if you were correcting some fundamental misunderstanding? You seem to agree that everything they said is factual.

Well... you seem to agree with my first post, no?
Dimwit.

>>10623807
>Being this anal and conflictive.

I was adding to my argument. Go fight with your wife.
-------------------

I wrote in the first post you quoted (>>10621059 (You)) the following:
>The Wii is also native GameCube and Wii hardware, so it is not emulation in that regard, yet it allows for HDDs so you can store all the libraries there.

I literally wrote that.

To which you quoted my post to say:
> Only as far as GameCube and Wii games. For everything else, it's no more "real hardware" than a laptop running RA is.


So I am baffled at your childish projection when you say, all mighty and high in post >>10623807 the following:

>So then why'd you respond as if you were correcting some fundamental misunderstanding? You seem to agree that everything they said is factual.

Well... you seem to agree with my first post, no? Do you live up to your standards?

Dimwit.

>>10621059
Yeah but can it do shaders?

>>10623872
>Go fight with your wife.
That's a epic boomer thing to say, made me kek.

>>10623882
Aren't really that important when you already use a real CRT TV and you can get away with lightweight shaders if you use RGB and want composite artifacting for example.

>>10623897
>Aren't really that important when you already use a real CRT TV

Yeah but I don't have one.

>just get one

Live in a small apartment with limited space, using my main 4k tv as a multipurpose device is more sensible. This is where a decent crt shader comes in handy. Plus retroarch on PC is way quicker for downloading and modifying games and their emulator parameters than on wii.

>>10623837
Gtx 980 is the last video cards with integrated ramdacs and vga out

>>10623929
I don't have sense. I had 3 big CRTs hooked up in a 38m2 apartment I shared with my gf.

>>10623872
>reddit spacing
The first post didn't specify that being "real hardware" was only applicable to GameCube and Wii games. In fact, that aspect was explicitly presented as a separate benefit.
>It is real hardware [...]
>[nonsensical line break]
>The Wii is ALSO native GameCube and Wii hardware

To anyone who understands what the term "real hardware" means, you look like a fucking idiot.

>>10623931
Doesn't make much of a difference, the 900 series already had the DAC hooked up over internal DP lines anyways. Would be identical to a good external DP to VGA DAC, it would even show up as a native VGA port by the driver.

The benefit you do get from GTX 900 and GTX 1000 series is interlace support, which more modern GPUs don't support anymore, neither Nvidia or AMD, but if you only want 240p and related 15kHz modes to hook up a CRT TV, it's not really a problem (or interlacing on a VGA CRT).

>>10623939
So the Wii is not real hardware.
The Wii is software.
The Wii was built for word processing and office work, but it has been modified to also play games.

Gotcha, kiddo.
Please stop addressing me.
I already understood your point and am converted to your ways, wise one.

>>10623958
>The Wii was built for...
BBC!

>>10623973
no that was the BBC Micro

>>10623958
>So the Wii is not real hardware.
For everything outside of GameCube and Wii, yes that's right.
>The Wii is software.
Do you consider a PC running a software emulator to be software itself? You have a very poor grasp on the concepts you're trying to argue about.
>The Wii was built for word processing and office work, but it has been modified to also play games.
Such a monumentally poor grasp.

>>10623958
>The Wii was built for word processing and office work, but it has been modified to also play games.
Technically true, it uses a PPC G3 core, which was made mostly for that.

>>10623983
Yes yes, wise one.
You are truly right.
Thank you for your insight.
I cannot believe I did not mention the Wii is great for emulation in an emulation thread.

>>10620203
I think that what makes emulation so good is the fact that, while we can talk about what this ideal setup would be like, it's so simple for a setup for emulation to be good and just work. It's likely we all have at least a single TV in our homes, even if it isn't a CRT, we're good to go, we have shaders afterall. It's likely we all have a PC, laptop, tablet or smartphone, often we have at least a couple in our homes, and again we're good to go. ROMs or emulators are free and easy to find, shaders also are quite simple, and free, I'd say the main thing I spend money on now for my setup is controllers.

>>10624041
This

>>10624001
KEK

Le Reddit thread will read:
TIL The Wii Emulates Wii Games

>>10624152
Made me think of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar9WRwCiSr0

>>10620203
>Winblows

>>10620203
>DualSense
I want one so bad, but it's too expensive for it to justify it's price and the purchase, such a shame...

I can only hope price drops at some point for me.

>>10624618
Have an Apple, then!

>>10624618
What else would a dedicated gaming PC run?

>>10624629
It's overall the best controller for the price IMO.
Good dpad and low latency, even wireless.

If you play /vr/ and /v/, it's totally worth the price.

>>10624575
>18:50
>NES emulating NES
kek

>>10620997
Nothing. You have to use a little dildo dongle remote to play games, or a gaycube controller. It’s dogshit

>>10620203
>shitty 13 inch monitor from the 80s
>PS5 controller
>Enterntainment
>emulators
>RGB lighting
That pic gave me explosive diarrhea.

>>10624839
>>Enterntainment
*Entertainment
Yeah thats what vidya is mainly for. Fuck off and bitterly sulk like a retard somewhere else
>>emulators
YEAH SO!?
>>RGB Lighting
OP is not here to please you nor your /v/tard delusions and Schizoid fuckery. Seethe and pop a blood vessel.

>>10620280
>>>10620254
>>believing the mister meme

Sega Saturn and N64 cores are really shaping up. Everytime I see Saturn Emulation on the Mister, I am shocked at how much closer it is getting to the real hardware. Despite there still being some hick-ups.

>>10624839
>CM8833-II
>shitty
shiggidy

>>10624629
get one of those Hong Kong gamepads with microswitch buttons and hall effect sticks

>>10620203
That one ain't too bad. Is this yours? I presume you've got a transcoder/crtemudrivers going on. The one thing that blows about 15khz is that is sucks at outputting high res arcade games in progressive scan, have to flip to 480i for those. Another thing that's kinda crummy about 240p output from a PC is that 224p games won't fill the screen like 240p games and vice versa so you'll never maximize the screen for all games without over/underscan between them. That said, within those limitations, it's a pretty good time.

>>10624839
>>shitty 13 inch monitor from the 80s
It's a 600 TVL slot mask, with RGB, Y/C and composite inputs. Also has stereo speakers, does 50Hz/60Hz and analog picture/geometry controls, main ones right on the front. Plus the tube is in great health, one of my favorite monitors.
>>PS5 controller
Yeah, great controller and low latency even when wireless.
>>Enterntainment
I suck at writing, what can I say.
>>emulators
Yep.
>>RGB lighting
It's cold white though.

>>10624942
It's mine but I'm not OP. I've posted it in /CRT/ threads before.

>I presume you've got a transcoder/crtemudrivers going on.
DP to VGA and VGA to SCART with joined sync signals. This monitor actually accepts separate H/V sync too in addition to composite sync, so I made a custom cable for it.

>The one thing that blows about 15khz is that is sucks at outputting high res arcade games in progressive scan, have to flip to 480i for those.
Yeah, I'm limited to 15kHz progressive modes only.

>Another thing that's kinda crummy about 240p output from a PC is that 224p games won't fill the screen like 240p games and vice versa so you'll never maximize the screen for all games without over/underscan between them.
I have many ~15kHz modelines for many consoles and games, many refresh rates and from 224p to 288p, CRT SwitchRes automatically switches between them depending on the console/game to keep it 1:1.

>That said, within those limitations, it's a pretty good time.
Thanks, I didn't have much space for it at the time, got more space now but it's currently in storage at a relatives after I moved, going to do a better setup after renovation.

>>10620203
An actually decently specced PC not some shit emulation box, Retroarch, 4k 120hz OLED with HDR, https://youtu.be/VghduLw79-E?si=saK9oJEZsKrAX6Cj CRT shaders from this video, wired controller of choice for even lower latency I swap between the Dualsense and a Dualshock 3, beer, and just simply enjoy man.

>>10625084
Based

>>10625084
how tf does that work when only raspberry pi can do emulation?

>>10620203
>A TV with a size you're comfortable with and a decent resolution
>A good chair or couch to sit on and lay back
>A desktop PC, mini PC, laptop or tablet... anything that can stream it's screen to the TV through HDMI or wirelessly, also with good specs to run whatever you'd like to play
>RetroArch or any preferred emulators you use
>ROMs for the stuff you care about, or full ROM sets depending on your storage
>CRT shaders to make everything look good, this is why a decent resolution for the TV is good
>Controllers for each system you like emulating the most for a more accurate feel

Home

>>10620203
>What's the best emulation setup?
Whatever you already have's probably all you need.

>>10620203
As long as you've got CRT shaders and accurate controllers for the consoles you emulate, you'll be just fine, definitely recommend 8BitDo M30 for SEGA, and DualSense for Sony, it's just good.

>>10620212
>entarteinment

ESL detected.

>>10620225
>objectively
You guys overuse this word

Do you guys use 1:1 or 4:3 for aspect ratio?

>>10628837
Does anyone know if there is a controller that has both Genesis style face buttons and dual analog sticks? Bonus points if it also has modern shoulder buttons (dual) I feel like a controller like that would be very versatile to use for emulation

>>10620203
In my opinion there is no perfect setup. It chances according to the generation you are playing. Eg: 8-bit and 16-bit, PVM and small-medium CRT, 5th gen a mid-big CRT with 4:3, maybe a bigger PVM, from 6th gen up HD CRT

>>10629102
4:3 to eliminate the bezels

>>10629102
The CRT does the aspect ratio

>>10629280
RetroBit's Saturn (Analog) might just be exactly what you're looking for, anon.

>>10621071
>You cannot emulate playing Super Smash Bros Melee

My Wii has 4 GameCube controller inputs. Js

Wii sd readers can break.

No Saturn no Dreamcast.

You have to dig for a mame emulator version that allows more than 100 titles on the screen.

Sega CD works

Pico 8 does not
But runs Sega 32 x sometimes in retroarch, which doesn't always work right away.

>>10620225
Generic flat screen tv, retroarch, and 8bitdo. Caring about shit like muh emulator muh crt muh controller is just autism. Set up whatever you want on whatever you want, get a good controller (simply because keyboard fucking sucks to play with), and just enjoy your games.

>>10630268
>wanting to have a good experience is autism
I hope you use the most basic car, caring about AC is autism.

>>10620203
EUGH, Dualsense.

>>10630372
can't get better for the price

>>10624041
This, everything for the most part is fine for me with shaders but I’ve started to get picky with controllers, I tend to like closer to the original controllers whenever I can find them

>>10625084
Honest question are you not worried about burn in with an OLED with the letterboxing

>>10630702
Not really, modern OLED is pretty good

>>10630694
Indeed, obviously we all love an authentic feel, if we decide to go with the route of emulation, we have ways of still making it authentic, with either a CRT, or shaders if we don't have one currently, a frontend that we enjoy using and that gives us a shelf feel at least to a certain extend... and the controller in our hands, I'd say this is the part I'm focusing the most on too, for individual consoles.

I'm using a 8BitDo M30 for SEGA Mega Drive and Master System, as the latter got a 6-Button Mega Drive controller in later releases, so it feels right, and also Game Gear. As for PS1, PS2 and PSP, I'm using a DualShock 4, I'm using it for SNES too as the PlayStation layout is a SNES controller with handles. I'm looking into getting more stuff too though, even a DualSense would feel nice aswell.

>>10632690
I actually have an identical setup to you although I use the 8bitdo pro 2 for snezz as I really like the d pad on it. I am looking to get a dedicated nes and TG16 controller, I actually think I might go with just a TG16 one that has the turbo buttons as I like shmups on the NES as well and I’m getting too old to button mash.

>>10632727
I've had a pretty positive experience with 8BitDo so far, so I might get more stuff from them, all of their SNES styled controllers look appealing, and ideally I'd love to get one to get more of an SNES feel, even NES due to the Dog Bone controller it came with on later models, also their N64 model they'll release with that new Analogue console, if it's good of course, I like the N64's button layout.

I think one with turbo buttons is ideal, regardless if you plan on using them often or not, having an option is always good in case we ever decide we want to use it, so I'd go for that if I were you too.

I can definitely see what you mean with button mashing, when I was a kid I never got why people complained so much about it, but nowadays I'm an adult and, well, I get pains way more easily.

8BitDo is pretty good for modern games, but the d-pad is too mediocre for retro gaming. I tend to use overall worse controllers just because they have better d-pads.

>>10633274
>8BitDo is pretty good for modern games
Shit polling rate

>>10633274
I find the M30's D-Pad to be genuinely excellent.

>>10633274
You aren’t the first person I’ve heard that on about the pro 2 but I genuinely enjoy it way more than the DualShock or dual sense d-pad, I don’t know why. The m30 mogs just about all of them though.

>>10620203
>What's the best emulation setup?
the one you had when you were a kid

>>10633429
My childhood emulation setup was garbage.

>>10633429
Well, my setup as a kid was a desktop PC my dad used for work, that had a version of Ubuntu in it with GNOME 2 before they changed it to Unity, I had the Gens emulator installed on it and played it using the keyboard, and the PC was kept in the corridor next to the chicken, and then in the hall next to the living room and dining room, so we'd all take turns to use it, I also save scummed a lot.

Actually, you're right, this was peak video games for me, I loved this time, and while I'm ashamed I save scummed, as a kid I didn't even consider it a cheat, just a tool, if the emulator had it, I'd use it.

Also, my older sister installed Gens, I didn't know how to do anything in Ubuntu, I didn't know a thing about emulators either, so all I had were a few ROMs until I learned how to get more stuff.

>>10633507
Based

I just want to play retro games with wife. We have a modern tv.

What is the fastest way to get a workable emulation machine up. I have a raspberry pi but will spend to get everything to work. A guy locally is selling a Wii with roms but only Nintendo stuff on it.

I am technically minded but don’t have time to research in-depth.

Not getting a CRT, and would like to be able to upscale. Thanks

>>10633749
if you don't want to emulate on a crt then your only real option is to drop $15 grand on a mister fpga emulation system

>>10630702
Doesn't really seem like burn in is too big of an issue anymore, Ive had my current one for about 2 years, game on it every day at full brightness and no burn in. TV has built in options to help mitigate it like moving the screen an imperceptible amount every once in a while among other things. Play tons of games with static huds and even all the stuff you think would burn in just running a windows desktop on it hasn't left any sort of burn in.

>>10633749
Well, do you or your wife have a laptop or tablet? If you do, then you're pretty much set to go, also, if you want your modern TV to look more like an old CRT, use shaders. If you have a laptop, you're going to need an HDMI cable, then just plug it in the TV and it should mirror the screen, as for the tablet, they often have screen mirroring for most modern smart TVs, wirelessly, so just use that.

Now, you've got your laptoo or tablet's screen in the TV, now what? Well, you can either get some standalone emulators, or just RetroArch if you'd like it all in one place, some ROMs, and set it up.

Alright, you're pretty much ready to play, now all you need is some USB or Bluetooth controllers, I think Bluetooth's best if you want to play on your couch comfortably with her. I think that's all to it.

crt royale with default settings.
good enough or nah?

>>10633817
disgusting

>>10633749
Old PC or android device will be better than the wii since it only does 480p. Don't worry about upscaling because you can always just turn on integer scaling (exact multiplying of pixels) in emulators and most old consoles divide evenly exactly into 4k.

>>10633817
Sovl

>>10633803
>>10633826
Is the retropi not a decent way to go?

I don’t have a spare laptop that would be powerful enough. I run a x200.

I saw in another thread people recommending getting those corporate all in one pcs to emulate. Is there a good solution there?

>>10633898
Put Batocera on that dude

>>10633898
>Is the retropi not a decent way to go?
Sure, it works well.

>>10620203
To add on to OP's question, as a Windows anon, what is the best emulation software to find? NES specifically, but others too - sega gamegear? I'd love to have a NON emulation setup, but the nature of an emulation thread is necessarily "hey I'm in a situation where I can't have more hardware but I do have this laptop and a USB controller so lets goooooooo!"

>>10620997
240p

>>10634000
What do you think OP's picture is?

Ryujinx or Yuzu, which is the best?

what is best in emulation

>>10633986
Also, where does an anon find a good archive of ROMs?

>>10634041
Sneed's ROMs and NOMs

>>10634041

>>10634046
Peerf thx
>>10634054
looking emoji

>>10634054
The normieweb says they're down and provides no useful information...

>>10634079
That's what they want you to believe.

>>10634007
It used to be per-game based and what hardware you have, but right now Yuzu is objectively better. But try both and see what FPS you get, settings and features wise there's no difference anymore.

Some other threads sparked my interest in getting the original gameboy/gameboy color set up. I was absolutely shocked to see some of the file sizes. The original monopoly game that I had was only 72kb in size.

Just caught my first pokemon, a weedle.

>>10634902
>The original monopoly game that I had was only 72kb in size.
SMB was like 40k

>>10633898
Yeah that's fine. I was just saying things you might already own that would be better than a wii. An old android phone with hdmi out and a charging dock makes a good emulation hub.

>>10620203
>What's the best emulation setup?
misterfpga
next best? analogue pocket +dock

>>10633817
I would turn down the glow but other than that it looks ok.

>>10630078
But that is not emulation... the Wii plays GameCube natively, which was my point.
The Wii emulates a bunch of stuff, but it is also Native Hardware for both Wii and GameCube, which including our glorious GameCube wired controller inputs... it is arguably the best budget/soul dedicated retro-emulation device, specially paired to a CRT.

>>10634082
Care to share? I got to their main page but I see nothing but the logo.

>>10620203
Learn your favorites then just buy them because there's not as many as you think. The rest are bad copies of the best games

>>10633898
>Is there a good solution there?
Frankly? The best option your money can buy. If you can afford a x64 PC, it's probably a better solution; just get a medium or small case and connect to your TV through HDMI. Can't afford one? Then a Raspberry Pi (with Lakka or Batocera, not RetroPie) is also decent, but you may be pretty limited depending on the model you get. Also, I'm a little against used goods, because it's down to luck whether the previous owner took care of the hardware or not.

>>10620203
Pc with the emulators and roms and usb accessories that mimic the original system's controllers.

>>10634041
For anything pre 5th gen, archive.org. Anything 5th or later, there's a lot of places.

>>10620203
>What's the best emulation setup?
Retroarch on Linux with a 15khz crt on the analog output using crtswitchres to get original resolutions and refresh rates.

>>10620203
retroarch with big crt and xbox one controller. No scan lines. Line doubling gets a bad rep because fags don't know the difference between internal resolution and output res

>>10638568
why would you use a 125hz controller? specially one with a bad dpad

>>10638579
It works and I have never had an issue with the d-pad. I don't play fighting games. I don't even know what you mean by 125hz in this context. If it has to do with input lag, then I'll say that the biggest source of input lag is your brain and obsessing over such a thing is what stupid people do.

>>10638592
>8ms extra latency
it's just too overpriced for such bullshit, might as well get the elite controller then, better dpad too

>>10638568
>Line doubling gets a bad rep because fags don't know the difference between internal resolution and output res
Could you elaborate?

Has anyone tried using some third party joycons for emulation? It seems like the ones with an IR sensor would be perfect for emulation. Just use them together as one controller for the majority of consoles and when you want to waggle just use them separately.
From what ive read online it doesnt appear to be that many that are usable on PC.

>>10620203
Is it possible to emulate pic related?

>>10641112
not with the current level of technology

>>10641120
I should have known :(

>>10641112
Yeah, MAME has support for some Plug & Play units, and I think this is one of them.

>>10641142
Nice, thanks friend

>>10641112
kek

>>10620203
>What's the best emulation setup?
A tablet that can cast its screen to your TV, so it can be used as a console when connecting your controllers through bluetooth, and also one of those telescopic controllers to turn it into some handheld when you want to play that way, it's a cheap Nintendo Switch for emulation exclusively pretty much, and it's compact and convenient.

>>10643767
Genuine question: do you have some idea about the input lag when casting to the TV?

>>10620254
Mister is a pretty good emulator.

>>10643929
Not anon but unless you're using Steam or GeForce Now/Moonlight for casting/streaming, it will have pretty bad latency.

>>10643929
No idea, I just mentioned what I believe to be an ideal setup that I'm going to try putting in place this year, saving up for a tablet to replace my old laptop who's on the brink of death by now, but I admit latency will probably be an issue, though I still need to see if it'll be manageable and a thing I can get used to, or if it'll break the whole thing. I'll be sure to post about it when I buy all I need.

>>10644018
I'm only considering this method because my GFs tablet streams to the TV without any latency we can notice, but I suppose when you add a video game and a controller, it can suck a lot harder.

>>10644168
Get a Windows handheld, like the GPD Win 4, better every way IMO.
You could hook it up to a TV with just a USB-C cable (to HDMI) or if you have a shart TV, you can just stream from the handheld with Steam or Moonlight.

>>10620203
Steam deck. Runs everything through gen 6 just fine, and even some gen 7 games. Not to mention it’s portable.

If you want something smaller, a hacked vita (plus sd2vita) or a hacked 3ds.

>>10644214
I'm considering, since my whole idea is to have a single device for my entertainment that's both portable and convenient, but I want to give the tablet method a real shot first since it's so light and flexible, also cheap depending on the tablet. I really liked some tablets that came out last year so I'm waiting for new ones to release this year so the prices of last years' drops significantly.

>>10644282
do you intend to emulate 6th gen games? if you don't you really don't need to spend much.

>>10620225
OG xbox is a good enough cheap catch-all emulation device for pretty much anything 8 or 16bit. put that on a CRT and youre good to go
if you dont like using xbox controllers, raspberry pis can be got for slightly more, and then you can use any USB controllers
either way both have tons of homebrew to do pretty much anything you could want

for handheld i use a hacked new3DS
i like the buttons, and it natively runs NES, SNES, GB(C) and GBA. its also one of the only ways you can emulate a lot of DS titles without it being frustrating due to lack of a touchscreen
its also got tons of different emus for all of the above plus PCE/TGFX16, genesis, master system etc
just a really big hacking scene in general

>>10644289
No, just up to PS1, though some PSP isn't bad I guess, but I can emulate PSP and even a little of PS2 in my entry level smartphone, so a low end tablet shouldn't be too different, if I go just a bit higher I can probably emulate PS2 just fine, and then I'd be set really, but time will tell I suppose.

>>10628928
That's the joke...

>>10620203
that depends... are you using one of those 240p trinkets, or just your plain 'ole HDMI2AV? if its the former, how are you using yours?

>>10644696
>...this is it, that's the end of the joke...
Good song.

>>10637146
Oh thank you fren
Just getting the party up to snuff in FF1... I cut my teeth on FFVII, and haven't played the earlier episodes. LETS GOOOOOOOOO
>Ft, Rm, Wm, Bm

>>10641112
What are the odds that someone has ever used this controller as a dildo? I think that at least a few probably have at least once.

>>10647690
Imagine how many controllers with vibration have been used as masturbation toys.
I remember a ex once telling me how she used to rub a PS2 controller against her ... while pressing the vibration on/off option in a games setting on off that made it vibrate for several seconds on max.

>>10647697
I did that too. Thanks THPS2.

>>10647697
That's why you always properly clean used controllers when you buy them

>>10624827
You can use the classic controller pro or the SNES wii controller. Or the SNES Gamecube controller.

>>10647690

Is there a tool like clrmamepro for the Smokemonster packs to organize and identify missing ROMS on various consoles?

>>10643767
>>10644168
>>10644282
>>10644653
So... my idea has sort of gone to shit, I've looked it up and apparently the super advanced setting to cast your screen onto a TV from your tablet is only available on higher end Samsung tablets, all of their cheaper ones can't do it... seriously, fuck you so much, Samsung. What a bunch of garbage.

I might've read it wrong of course, but from what I gathered this does seem to be the case, if any of you here have an A Series tablet, or a S6 Lite or S9 FE and can confirm if they have Smart View or not, that'd be pretty sweet, I tried using Smart Things app on my low end phone, it doesn't work.

>>10653137
Anon, frankly, you want a jack of all trades, master of none. Technology isn't there yet to give you a cheap and practical all-in-one solution. You'll have to pay premium and still deal with a few limitations. I think your situation would get much more feasible if you, at least, divided your needs into two devices; one for portable gaming, one for the big screen. If you're still adamant about it, perhaps a jailbroken Nintendo Switch might be the best cost-effective solution, even if not perfect.

>>10654532
Yup, it's exactly what I want, a single entertainment device with all of my stuff in it, it'd just be so much easier that way... I currently use 2 devices, my old laptop and an old smartphone, it works, but I want to replace my laptop for a tablet as it'd be more enjoyable for drawing, so I figured that, since a tablet is pretty much a big smartphone, I could replace both my devices in a single go. I looked it up and apparently I CAN cast any Android screen... with a Chromecast, though I need to look more into it, anyways maybe I can still pull this off, I want to try with a cheap tablet so it's not a huge investment in case I don't like it, and the Chromecast seems cheap too.

>>10654912
If you don't want a shitty experience, I suggest you to wait a little and see what devices come out in the next few years. Manufactures already develop handhelds which can be plugged to the big screen, so it's only a matter of time until something which suits your needs is released.

>>10655712
I know it's ideal, but my laptop's really old by now and could die at any moment, and I prefer to buy a tablet to replace it for the sake of a better time drawing, so trying out video games on it feels so natural, if it doesn't work out I might get a brand new laptop, which is why I prefer to not spend so much on a tablet, just in case it doesn't work for me in the long run, but we'll see how it goes too.

>>10625009
You can get 240p on a CM8832-II/CM8833-II without fucking with PC drivers using a GBS-C
GBS-C can output 240p RGBHV from any input, including 480p and 480i.
Not only can you downscale 640x480 from a PC like this, but you can also force a Sega Saturn to be 240p only with none of that annoying 480i flicker you'd normally see. This also lets you further control timings and do minor image adjustments to get perfect full screen without having to fuck around with the analog controls on the display itself.
Another use case for 240p GBS-C output is acting as a framebuffer for arcade games. Some arcade PCBs output weird video levels or non-standard sync signals and this solution solves nearly all of those.

>>10655998
Anon, you do you, but, judging by your situation, I advise you to buy a proper laptop. It's cost-effective and has better performance, emulation, durability, compatibility. You can easily draw using a drawing pad, connect both wired and wireless controllers and seamlessly casting its screen with a simple HDMI cable. Chance of buyer regret is much lower. Android (OS) still has a little issue with retro gaming, since relevant input lag might be an issue depending on your device, emulator and if you're screen-casting or not.

>>10655998
I have a Surface Pro 4, but that thing is a piece of crap, drawing is clunky and laggy.