/vr/ - Retro Games

that looks nice.

>>10613310
I've started buying those stupid looking vintage Edison bulbs because even 2700k soft white LEDs are way too bright.

>>10613310
People been sleeping on lamps.

>>10613310
I tell people all the time the original incandescent bulb magnifier lens/ light accessories are the way to go for gameboy/gameboy color/ gameboy advance. They outcast me, but believe me it's the only way.

>>10613380
Did Nintendo ever actually make any of those?

You want the fixed in place ones, not the wormlights, and if the lens is scratched up you can just pop them out, but it is optimal with a lens.
>>10613381
Directly know, though a few are officially licensed I know of one for the gameboy, and one for the gameboy advance that are officially licensed.

>>10613310
>warm (~2700k)
honestly I think this is why the gameboy and a lot of other lcd screens from that era used that specific color combination, it's perfect for "warm white"

>>10613310
Sorry, not autistic enough

>>10613310
Nice portable console faggot.

hold up, before you go spreading the secret I need to buy up the entire supply of halogen and incandescent lights remaining on amazon and ebay to relist at 50x the price as vintage steampunk gamer bulbs *UNTESTED* *NO REFUNDS*

>>10613414
gl you can still get them from changland.

not my problem

>>10613410
The sun exists and most public places have overhead lighting at night.
External lighting solutions also exist.
Try again, backlight faggot.
Lamp chads stay winning.

>not playing your Game Boy the way the devs intended

>>10613429
This thing looks even worse than the DMG. I only recently found out about it. It looks like an alarm clock LCD. And there's obviously some blue light in it, so it probably keeps you up or causes headaches etc

>>10613429
Inevitable lines in the screen. Just get a DMG and mod in a new screen.

>>10613432

Can't take that under the blanket (while your parents think you're sleeping). They intended for you to use a small, low-quality flashlight.

What's the point of the lamp? Is it just for visibility reasons?

>>10613328
Also like the warmer bulbs. Used to sell these at a job I had. People like the leds more because they said they're bright use less watts and never break

The ones between the bright white and the warm yellow are best when used in a home I think

>>10613328
You might like colored lights. I have a nice purple bulb for my room and two color changing lights for this reason

>>10613656
you know all that blue light stuff is pseudoscience right? Sure as shit doesn't cause headaches

>>10613794
Fuuuuuck, I 100% did that with Pokemon

>>10613310
I remember this exact display... holy shit...

>>10613741
>mod in a new screen.
New IPS screens are soulless though, might as well buy an emulator handheld.

>>10614040
>>10614042
I've done a lot of research into sleep science and I've become wary of bright and blue bulbs. Most rooms in my house now have as warm and dim a bulb as I I can find in one fixture, like a table lamp or over the stove, to be used in the evening so the house isn't pitch black, and a daylight in an overhead fan or the main room fixture for cleaning or needing completely clear visuals.
>People like the leds more because they said they're bright use less watts
I understand and appreciate the cost savings, but I worry about the complete disregard for biology. They're going to be replacing all of our street lights with LEDs this year, and I'm concerned the power company is just going to slap in bright, cool lights all over the place with no thought to filtering. I've seen their work elsewhere and those lights don't look good.
>and never break
I actually just had my first LED burn out. It was in a pull string fixture over the utility sink the in basement laundry room, and I never turned it off to make sure we could see in there if we went down at night. I'm pretty sure I put that in right when we moved in almost five years ago.

>>10613310
As much as tendies try to cope, having to find the absolute perfect lighting conditions just to see a garbage screen, outside when the light might be completely different from how you need it to be, defeats the whole purpose of a portable... which is convenience, the 1st decent handheld they've made was the Game Boy Light and then the GBA SP, all other consoles in the Game Boy lineup are garbage if we're talking about the hardware and playing experience, despite the library being still quite good even today. Lynx and Game Gear are, and were, vastly superior, and shoudl've won it...

t. I grew up with a GBA and the screen made my experience horrible, and stopped me from truly enjoying it's superb library, all of the other kids had GBA SPs and I'll never forgive Nintendo for releasing something with no backlight in 2001 when Game Gear and Lynx both had it in 1990.

They sell frontlight mods for gbc. Just need someone to make a project of it to design one that's really good. Might do it myself. The backlight mods for dmg I think are good as is

>>10614691
The GBA is much worse than all their previous LCDs.
Everything before it is perfectly playable
(if you aren't a bitch)

>>10613310
The original DMG screen is ideally viewed with the sun over your shoulder.

Touch grass, incel.

>>10614691

Original model GameBoy Advance was unplayable at night.
How did this get greenlit?

>>10614691
Pretty much this. I don't know why people want to flog themselves with inconvenience when there is no inherit upside to it. Sometimes the past is best left in the past.

>>10613414
Absolute fucking KING

>>10613310
i remember playing on that exact set up at sears

Deutsche müssen alles schwulig machen, do you play that on the fucking floor or is that the Warwick custom build

>>10615302
originally you would lie on your back with your head pointed towards the unit and reach up with your hands to control it, a mirror would be precisely placed above you so you could see the game

>>10615312
Sounds reasonable, though it was some WEIRD SHIT

>>10614560
There are non-IPS screens.

>soulless
Go back.

>>10614128
A shared experience for many, myself included.

>>10613794
>Be good kid through the mid 90s, never play games in bed after lights out even when I got a gameboy pocket
>Early 2000s, get a GBA for Christmas, no backlight
>Play the shit out of it to the point my dad would ask if I were feeling ok because I'd just stay in bed on cold days and play via my lamp
>Love Fire Emblem and Golden Sun so much, I finally start to experiment with how to play in bed after everyone goes to sleep
>Try flashlights, setting the brightness high on my alarm clock LCD, book lights, can never find that combination between bright enough to see yet dark enough to hide it from everyone else

>GBA-SP comes out, has a backlight
>Perfect, now I can play in the dark without straining my eyes or rigging up some contraption to make it work
>No 3.5mm jack, have to play with the volume muted, ruining the entire experience

>>10613993
Yes....
I take it you've never seen on OG gameboy in person

>>10613656
I agree with you anon it's shit, not to mention the majority of the units out there have degraded backlight panels, and there is no exact replacement, because no one has made a correct polarizer for these.

>>10613794
Or you know the magnifier light combos which have the same style bulb but it's actually engineered for that purpose and fixed in place. And I'm pretty sure they did design the dmg to be under those color temperature of bulbs. But goodluck finding out how nintendo actually designed something.

simple as

>>10615245
OG GBA was peak miserly Nintendo

>>10615260
Because people generalize it to stuff before the GBA that was much more distinctive, while also being far more playable.
You don't stray too much from the original look by putting a backlit screen in a GBA, but you absolutely do if you put a modern panel in a DMG.

>replace the screen with a b&w crt television

>>10616363
My issue is that these new screens seem to not handle the dithering well at all for GBA games.

>>10614691
holy shit are you me?

>>10613310
Holy shit, I remember playing Link's Awakening in that style of kiosk back when I was a kid while waiting to get family pictures taken. It was alone in a dim corner so it was just like the Game Boy illuminated by a single golden light. Felt like some kind of holy artifact.

Doubt I'd ever by able to find a kiosk like that at a reasonable price in this day and age... Maybe I could 3d print one...

>>10616373
What dithering?
I only know about them not handling things that flicker at 60hz well.

>>10613310
Cool.

>>10616373
Same and the games that use compressed graphics instead of sprites, (which is like half the games on the system) look shitty on them too

photographs of paintings are fine, but unless you've experienced the painting on its original canvas you haven't really seen it

>>10616462
Go look at like a fucking a pokemon emerald comparison of IPS to an original display. There's a lot of usage of dithering that doesn't appear correctly on IPS.

>>10616502
Reminds me that I once tried to copy a sprite from Faxanadu to some graph paper from a TV screen, lets just say I gave up pretty quickly since it was just one blurry mess closeup lol

>>10616502
Where are the scanlines?

>>10613310
>halogen lamp
Sounds like you want to be sweaty

>>10616703
That has nothing to do with the screen type and everything to do with the screen’s resolution

>>10616718
The scanlines compose the image.
The spaces in between scanlines don't appear on low resolution sets.
Size also places a factor as to whether there are visible gaps.

>>10616745
You're being autistic anon, there is no ips screen on the market for the gameboy that displays the dithering properly, but thanks for your lesson as if it matters.

>>10616770
So you’d rather be confidently wrong then admit fault?

>>10616801
Alright pal, just make sure you make a YT vid of whatever ips gameboy screen you're going to use to achieve your epic win.

>>10616804
What difference do you think the screen has over TN/TFT that would cause more visible dithering anon
Enlighten me

>>10616769
anon you could just say that scanlines only exist if you believe they exist

>>10616857
He's telling you scanlines are the image, not the blank lines

>>10616818
I'm going to be honest, you're actually annoying me. As far as I understand, and I used to obsess over this most if not all aftermarket screen kits for gameboys, don't show the dithering properly. Why that is, I do not know, I'm fairly certain the ags-101 does display dithering properly. Now if you want to argue over panels and display technology whatever, but the fact that you think that's relevant unless you're going to solve the problem yourself and drive your own screen, and make a kit it's just a waste of time to go on about this. Frankly, it's very reddit of you.

And yes those ita screens do show the dithering properly, all of the screens that were OEM show it properly I'm pretty much just referring to GBA games at this point.

>>10616716
Holy shit. I tried that with Warcraft 1 back in the day. Same result lol

It's kind of too bad these devices are becoming more rare as the days go on.

>>10616346
That was my nickname in middle school.

>>10615985
There are polarizers that are 99% identical.

>>10618382
No reason to be so doom and gloom yet.

>>10618489
It's been 30 years, anon. A fraction of those are still working and not broken or forgotten.

>>10618491
There's no shortage of these on eBay or other online marketplaces, and thankfully repairing is easier than ever with tons of educational material online.
I just hope every time I see a screen mod that it replaced and original that actually didn't work.

>>10615985
>no one has made a correct polarizer for these.
This. The original polarizers weren't made. They were magically pulled out of Arakawas anus by samurai yakuza warrior engineer monks who trained for >9,000 years to achieve its perfection. It totally wasn't just a cheap off the shelf piece of plastic that was and still is easy to find.

>>10618498
I'm sure people are chucking working screens or writing off a burnt polarizer as broken.
They then proceed to post a pic of a title screen on reddit and then the thing collects dust.

>>10613310
Where's this? Some Nintendo museum?

>>10619672
if by that you mean some collectorfag's bedroom, then yes

>>10619672
German text aside, this looks like the GB demo stations they used to have in every store.

>>10613310
>DMG
zoooooom

>>10614568
the blue light before bed thing is a meme abd has littke effect as long as you have spent time outside in natural light during the day

>>10614691
no one will care when (you) die

>>10620889
Do you have any specific sources you could share? I'd appreciate it.
A quick search showed a shaky refutation at best that was more saying "it's not the end of the world, but you probably shouldn't blast your eyes with light before bed." Even if it weren't true, I'd be changing those bulbs anyway because I don't like bright bulbs and I miss the light of incandescents. As for my environmental concerns, hopefully there's be a mixture of effort on their part and little effect on wildlife regadless, but I still don't want my street blasted with floodlights every hundred feet. Especially since one of the streetlights is right in my front yard.
>as you have spent time outside in natural light during the day
I've seen this mentioned in what I've read, but it can be hard to do this some times. The specific wisdom was to get some afternoon sunlight soon before it begins to set, but that can be difficult during a midwestern winter, to give a current example.

I'm not going to throw money at random fixes or be obsessive over it, but I've taken easy and rationale steps that feel beneficial regardless.

>>10618487
the original screens don't have an olive tint, but you took the chang bait, congratulations!

>>10614691
gameboys were convenient, for a different reason. you didn't have to put in new batteries all the fucking time like with gamegear, and sp had the first rechargeable port though you could have used rechargeable batteries on the older gameboys

>bring poor retards on your show
>humiliate them
>get them hooked on cigs and booze
>profit

>>10613432
a pair of candles work as a Wii sensor bar, which is just a pair of infrared sources. Emulator f-slurs have often done this.

>>10620848
? That's literally the model name and how it's referred to in the official documentation.

>>10622518
real 90s kids called it a Nintendo® Game Boy™

>>10622521
>the Nintendo® Nintendo Entertainment System™

As a kid I remember being able to see the screen. I think we live in a darker age now. Maybe we just don't have as much light as we used to since we're so used to backlit screens.

>>10622518
People only started calling it dmg recently. Just like the PS1 was just called the playstation back then and the Switch1 was called switch back in 2023.

>>10622821
lmao. Every 12yo boomer knows it was always called the PSX.

>>10622821
bruh, I don't know what you're talking about but it's been referred to as the dmg on the internet among enthusiasts since the 90s, I'm sorry you're an ultra casual and think your playground lingo from elementary school applies here

>>10620892
>no one will care when (you) die
this is how tendies react when you dare say anything bad about their favorite 20yo toy

>>10618482
What type of a nickname is "simple as"

>>10624605
obviously he means his nickname was joyplus.

>>10616502
Well, we have shaders nowadays at least.

>>10615339
Basically any screen other than the original type is blasphemy and your better off buying an emulator handheld if thats what you want.

>>10613414
I unironically did this. I have 100 dollars worth of really good GE reveal bulbs i've been selling to boomers for almost a year now

>>10613414
kek

>>10613310
Halogen light I ordered just got here, going to try it. Will post pictures.

>>10628260
I fucking hate you so much OP

>>10628305

>>10628305
Looks pretty much how I remember from my childhood. Retroarch shader when?

>>10628305
Use a magnifier retard. The lights are positioned and fixed at the best possible spots.

>>10628412
Th-thanks for the tip.

Now I'm playing with power.

Much better with LEDs.

>>10628305
>>10628451
>>10628454
>>10628471
honestly the first one has the comfiest looking colors, try to find an angle that avoids the glare

also replace the plastic cover over the screen

>>10628478
Best I could manage. Honestly it looks better in person than through my shitty phone camera and probably is better than your typical bright white LED.

>>10614040
>never break
I've gone through more LED bulbs than I ever did incandescent. This is pure marketing babble. In my experience, most LED bulbs don't even last 2 years.

>>10613328
Just buy a set of low watt/lumen bulbs, I picked up 3w/300 lumen bulbs for my ceiling fan, cut the overall light in half, way less harsh

>>10628305
>>10628451
>>10628454
>>10628523
>having to put a ton of effort for the screen to still look awful and hard to see
and faggots still try to say this was better than the game gear, even the lynx was better
seeing the screen properly is probably the most important part of being able to play something

>>10628523
perfect, ship it

>>10628478
>also replace the plastic cover over the screen
anon, the scratches are where the SOUL comes from

>>10624605
>>10625525
My nickname was "Stereo," actually. I'm a retarded black man and that Cuba Gooding, Jr. movie was really popular at the time.

>>10615260
it's for the battery life retard, holy shit. Do you people even play games? Yeah, i'm sure you have the battery life mod that tells you when your Nimhs or lipos are running low? No? Have fun losing all your progress then retards, jesus christ why do you fuckers care? Play on your fucking modded consoles if you want

>>10621582
try not sounding mad for once in your life

>>10619661
cool story dude

>>10628523
Looks like it probably looks pretty good actually, just the contrast is set a little too high and it's out of focus

>>10628305
>believing no-games zoomers on the internet

Your own fault. Anyone who was actually alive back then will tell you the Gameboy fucking sucked, and glare was inescapable.

>>10626513
opinion on backlit and bivert original screens
?

>>10628523
how did ya manage this?
--posted from deck

I love my backlit Gameboy. Doesn't even need a bivert which makes the screen blue. Just needed a brightness switch which I put in the battery slot behind the battery. Between that and the contrast controls, I can comfortably see everything in direct sunlight or in bed with all of the lights off

frontlit=soul
backlit=soulless

simple as

Are there any Gameboy emulators/shaders that simulate how slow the screen was to update? Playing Metroid 2 on original first-gen hardware was a profound experience and there was something about that screen that made it feel like really wading through an alien atmosphere.

>>10628897

I found Game Boy oddly, unappealingly primitive when it was new - but this isn't a very good criticism of it I think. I've never had to work hard to get the display on mine to be clear and easy to use. It's crude and greenish and sub-NES simple, yes. But it's clear. Lighting it perfectly to get the ideal "soul" or whatever may or may not be difficult, but lighting it well to achieve basic clarity and playability is not very difficult.

>>10631667
LCD smearing? Yes, like all of them now.