/vr/ - Retro Games

Bad geo is part of the soul

One thing you could try is a yoke research which can help linearity. Or find a service manual and add the missing component/trimpots yourself. It should work it is just voltages going to various ic's and circuits.

Reseat* sorry.

>>10617449
Another thing is capacitors could be out of spec, if you can look at them with an esr meter or something...

>>10617850

>>10617662
I hope it's this , when I try to increase v-size it doesn't even get close to fully expanded, it's like it stops scanning the upper image.
V-size-2 currently doesn't do shit.
H-size coil seems to be stuck or something, it doesn't budge despite having the proper tools.
When adjusting V-linearity now and then it goes ballistic and completely loses sync.
Piece of crap service manual is incomplete and doesn't contain a full capacitor list, so I have to fully dissasemble the whole unit and write it down first before ordering.

What a pain

>>10617889
Here's the tube itself

I found this Sony PVM 1380 in my works basement a few hours ago. It turns on but the picture fades up briefly before fading out. Is this salvageable?

i just rescued a 27" """RCA""" from my building's free table and snow looks different now eh

>>10618429
>Is this salvageable?
Yes, the tube seems okay.

>>10617564
/Thread

>>10617564
This. I rotate my TV 90 degrees before every time I use it to get a little variety with my bad geometry.

>>10618429
Me again, found a larger Sony PMV-20M2U

>>10618634

>>10617850
>>10617852
v nice anon
i have that same 3rd party gun
madkatz used to fucking SLAP back in the day
the lights on the side are a real treat in the dark
>>10618634
v nice set
fix that one
ignore the one with issues
unless you know someone who enjoys repairing them for cheap
ebay has those sony for under 150-200 all day here in the usa

ive ordered two so far and both worked and have basically zero issues

>>10617889
Also your trimpots might be corroded. They can oxidize over time and are a cheap replacement you can start with. That and it does look like you have some yoke bowing. I assume you are running a test suite with this?

>VINTAGE BLACK & WHITE GAMING MONITOR
>$999.99
i hate modern ebay so much

>>10619152
I saw a guy trying to sell a CRT box for $300 dollars the other day

how do I unburnin my tv screen

>>10619227
Take 3 pictures of the display - one showing pure red, one showing pure green, and one showing pure blue. Now import the images into photoshop and create an image that is an exact inverse of the burn-in. Turn that image into a movie, burn it to a DVD, then play it on loop until the rest of the screen burns-in to match the current burn-in.

>>10617449
I got this Sony Wega about 2 weeks ago. It's probably the sharpest looking CRT I've had so far. The geometry is pretty bad but I can live with it.
I was afraid that, with how big it is, 5th gen games and below would look pretty bad on it but they actually look really damn good.

>>10619247
old games look better the bigger the screen

ideally you should be playing nintendo on a 72'' rear projection television

>>10619253
>rear projection television
God I want one so bad but the only ones I've ever seen local were in shit condition and online they want $6000 dollars for shipping...

>>10619247
Looks good anon. There's lots of little tricks you can try to improve the geometry including placing magnets near the yoke, yoke adjustments and even making sure convergence is dialed in tight, often there are extra pots on the neckboard. Also see if you can improve anything with the east-west geometry circuit in the service menu. As well as making sure the rgb drives are calibrated nicely along with brightness levels.

$799 PLUS TIP NO HAGGLING
I KNOW WHAT I GOT

>>10619515
>condition: good

>>10619519
That's a huge thumb. Which games can help me attain this physique?

>>10619528
>my thumb is so powerful I can tear off vga cables without unscrewing them

>>10619519
Price is firm, no refunds.

>>10619247
If you can find a service menu it might have default settings for geometry which usually make a good starting point. Doesn't look too bad for 3D content.

>>10619515
>¥200 yen, free shipping
>sorry, no gaijin

>>10619623
based as fuck

hey kid... you like crts...?

>>10619253
>>10619257
do CRT based rear projection TVs have the same motion clarity as a normal CRT?

>>10619868
idk but they remind me of the pizza place I used to go to as a kid that had a big rear projection tv

>>10619868
Yes.

>>10619868
The real question is, could I mod a rear projection CRT TV into a normal projector?

>>10619907
>choice of display technology dictated solely by childhood nostalgia

protip: if you see a crt listed as "low radiation" on an auction site, that just means it's dimmed from overuse and is on the verge of death

>>10619929
selling vintage retro gaming rear projection sony tv. i know what i have

>>10620456
I'll take it off your hands if you pay for gas. Got my own people to help carrying it, no worries.

>>10620467
>nobody wants it
>can't get rid of it themselves
>2 months later get a reply
>"alright, i'll give you 10 bucks if you come get it out of my sight"

>>10619931
you'd have to mirror the image and only use it at the same distance as the screen would be
source: my ass

>>10620536
>you'd have to mirror the image
Already thought about that, if I use it behind a PC, it won't be a problem though, can do that in software.

>only use it at the same distance as the screen would be
That's what I guessed, unless it has enough adjustment for focus to gain some distance, but I guess I could DIY some lens assembly for focusing.

Would be a cool project, CRT projectors are impossible to find or expensive, meanwhile projector TVs are given away free all the time.

https://www.youtube.com/@MikesArcadeMonitorRepair This guy has me planning to buy a generic arcade driver board to put on one of my crts. If I decide to, I'll keep you guys posted.

>>10620573
mirroring the image might be as simple as switching the horizontal yoke connections

>>10620675
Sure? Pretty sure the coils don't have polarity.

>>10618921
>Also your trimpots might be corroded
Nice, il try to replace them lucky me they were mentioned in the service manuals parts list and they just happen to be underneath the board inspection hatch so I can try to resolder them without removing the whole board.

>>10619247
I don't know how much you know, but from my experience the last few years since getting my first CRT since I was a kid is that flat panels are only ever going to be so good. Both of mine are flat, and the corners are just atrocious with test patterns. It's less noticeable in games, especially 3D, but it's definitely there. I just try to tune it out, so the more fun the game, the better the geometry.
I don't understand what the perceived advantage of a flat screen was. I saw some source mention viewing angles? That seems kind of dumb to me.

>>10620958
As far as I know, flat panels are a crazy idea. I am not even sure the viewing angle argument holds up except maybe they make the screen look more futuristic or something? Flat panels work by projecting on to a rounded internal screen that is covered with glass at the front until it flattens out. Obviously depending on manufacturing quality this can introduce a plethora of distortions by itself. You then get a secondary east west correction circuit that adjusts the beam into a shape that looks relatively good on a flat screen, failure of this circuit and you just get a round blob of image in the corner of the screen. The exception would be LG who made truly flat front tubes and even they still have flaws. Not to mention the weight of the yoke is much heavier to account for this digital correction so you get a lot of yoke sag and bendy screens.

>>10620990
>a rounded internal screen that is covered with glass at the front until it flattens out
Fucking really?

>>10620990
They also use digital geometry adjustment in real time to get anything decent displayed on the screen.
Hence why it took so long for flatscreen CRTs to get popular, microcontrollers needed to catch up.

>>10620681
i think so, but i can't confirm. i bet it would mess with the convergence if it worked.
here's a video of someone who i'm pretty sure just pointed the tubes at a wall. can't tell if the picture is mirrored.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQRcWp_Mmgg
if the rear projection tv has the tubes pointing up into a mirror, then i think you could just point the tubes at a wall and it would appear normal

>>10621105
Interesting, thanks for the video, I was looking if someone had done that but couldn't find anything before.

>>10621127
What Toot is that?

just borrowed this CRT. what do you guys think?

>>10621259
yes

Do people typically buy a CRT TV for consoles + a CRT Monitor for older PC games? Or can you just buy one and use it for both?

>>10621259
Sharp. Nintendo approves.

>>10621259
give it back tyrone

>>10621016
Apparently even Flatrons and Sony's still have curves. It is to do with the physics of the electron guns and the timings of where they have to hit and distance.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Daniel_Engelsen/publication/250998749/figure/fig3/AS:669044164268042@1536523967168/Cross-section-of-panel-The-wedge-ratio-is-defined-as-the-glass-thickness-in-the-corner.png

>>10621262
>Or can you just buy one and use it for both?
You could if you use extra hardware like linedoublers or emulate (or have a multiscan monitor that accepts both 15kHz RGB and 31KHz+ RGB), but generally having a CRT TV and a separate VGA monitor is better. Less hassle and a CRT TV will have a softer picture more suitable for old consoles and vise versa for PC, plus they come in bigger sizes.

>>10621274
Yeah you generally want mostly even distance from the gun at all points for best geometry

>>10620536
> you'd have to mirror the image
Easy mod, just swap the wires of the horizontal scan coils.

>>10621295
but there's only a single horizontal coil

>>10621262
>not owning a different crt for every game you play

>>10620598
who makes replacement chassis, where would you buy them, and are there any medium res?

>>10621262
i have both but use a pc CRT for old console games pretty often. you lose the scanlines for 240p stuff by doubling them to the minimum 480p for VGA but keep the motion clarity which is the most important part. Some people double the refresh rate instead to get 240p with scalines on PC CRTs but then the motion clarity is lost

>>10621620
forgot to mention using emulation. connecting older consoles to a PC CRT would require a line doubler like the other guy mentioned. Unless the console supported 480p+(31kHz minimum) resolutions

>>10621620
line doubler + blanking out every other line would keep scanlines but you'd have the problem of them being insanely sharp and also blotting out half the brightness of the image. I've heard of deliberately altering focus to make the image blurrier and get a softer consumer TV look but haven't experimented with it yet

>>10621620
What CRT? I can still see separate scanlines with 480p.

>>10621675
you can use black frame insertion for the same effect at 120hz but it's the same loss of brightness as line doubler+blanking. Super bright mode on diamondtrons fixes it but it looks bad on most monitors

>>10621675
>>10621731
Yeah, 240p is just too sharp on a VGA CRT monitor

>>10621730
I mean the big gaps from double strike resolutions on 15kHz monitors. I can see the scanlines at 480p too but it's not the same look.

>>10621675
>>10621731
If you emulate, might as well use 1920x1440/60Hz (or related integer multiple resolution of the console you emulate) and use a filter. Still get latency and motion benefit from the CRT. Could even use a super resolution to help with aspect ratio correction and slight quality bump, like 3840x1440.

>>10621748
I think it depends on the monitor. 1440p looks blurry on some of my CRTs because it's towards the higher end of their scan range. I use 720p for a lot of stuff.

>>10617449

The JVC TM-2100E is a great find. However, it's all dependent on the quality of the tube. If it's a bit wonky, don't worry about it. There are recap services available in most metro areas.

>Finally get 240p on my games
>I can't tell the difference from 480p
Am I blind or do I need to be extra autistic to see the difference?

>>10622248
480p on what?

>>10621259
I would probably advise not putting the console on top so you don’t have the cable covering your vision

>>10622248
you might need the extra autism to know what to look for. integer scaling at 480p is just as sharp as 240p. But it's missing the larger gaps between horizontal lines on the monitor due to the lower resolution.

>>10618429
>>10618634
Damn bro, can you just take these and nobody will care? If yes that's awesome

>>10619931
>The real question is, could I mod a rear projection CRT TV into a normal projector?
People do it all the time in arcade cabinet repair. Those rear projection screens were in many 1990s to mid 2000s arcade games. Modern arcade owners just buy a modern projector with a short minimum distance requirement and mount that into the rear projection cabinet.

>>10622515
So they aren't even CRT projectors anymore?

>>10622621
CRT rear projector screens are not the same as CRT TVs. Washed out images, terrible viewing angles, convergence going off making poor colors, and uneven brightness. There's no real benefit to keeping them (unless you want one as a museum piece or you're a purist).

CRT Tube TVs are different. There is a real benefit to keeping them around for retro gaming.

>>10622661
No I'm talking about >>10622515
Do they replace the CRT projectors in the rear projector screen arcade games with just modern normal projectors?

Since I just got done with SOTN I decided to revisit another childhood classic. Lucca is 100% toad fucker


Also, how do you pronoun Leene? I always thought it was Lean, but i've heard people say Lee-Nay bit that sounds like a black girl name

>>10622897
It's pronounced リーネ (Riine).
Chrono Trigger is such a beautiful game, post some other shots, preferably from up close.

>>10622915
Think I'll continue with Lean, but i'll keep posting pictures as I play. It's been way to long since I last played.

Music is so good, I keep stopping and letting the music play, all of a sudden i'm 11 in my mom's basement again.

>>10622928
Lean just makes her sound like something black people drink. It's rinne because her name is a play on words for the japanese word for rebirth/reincarnation

>>10621141
ps1

>>10623003
Neat

>>10621414
well not a chassis, just the driver board, not sure about medium res, but there is a lot of chinese crap on ebay

>>10621778
Ironically, men who have other men service their tech would be those happiest servicing other men (sexually).

Should I pull the trigger on this AMAZING, one in a lifetime, offer for this antique PROFESSIONAL RETRO GAMING SCREEN DEVICE?

Low end 15" Schneider budget set

>>10623479
Looking good

>>10623479
peak soul

>>10623192
only if you can afford such a princely sum

>>10623192
>mexican peso
>brownsville
heh

>>10623557
It is 600 dollars.
I live in the border and get both feeds, the price is always in the city's national currency.

>>10623537
Isn't this absurdly, stupidly, priced?
I bet the guy selling it fell for the Reddit meme and now realized his error and wants 100% of his loss recovered.

I hate people in Marketplace selling at prices of a Rarity Antique Shop in NY City. Marketplace is meant for second hand offers. I hate this losers.

For example I got a PS4 with one controller and 4 games for 150 USD, but there are idiots selling a PS3 slim with a generic controller for 150USD because "it has the open shop".

>>10622507
Unfortunately I need to ask permission from my boss. I've found consumer CRTs in the past that I've taken home.
On a different note, I think you guys here would be surprised by the amount of TVs/Monitors s, of all shapes and sizes, are just lying around in TV stations and Studios collecting dust

>>10623578
>I think you guys here would be surprised by the amount of TVs/Monitors s, of all shapes and sizes, are just lying around in TV stations and Studios collecting dust
Where do you think I get my CRTs from? Schools/Universities, hospitals, TV stations, studios, etc. It's nice to make friends in new places and get access to all those CRTs collecting dust otherwise.

>>10623850
>Where do you think I get my CRTs from?
Touche!
I will say, we don't thow these away and more keep appearing in our storage, mostly flat screens now. Your honestly doing us a favor by taking them off our hands.

>>10623569
i thought it was in pesos

>>10624115
I wish

>>10622669
>Do they replace the CRT projectors in the rear projector screen arcade games with just modern normal projectors?
They don't put in modern normal projectors. They usually put in esports or gaming quality projectors. Basically very high end stuff that can fit inside the cabinet.

It's really crazy to me the last time I beat CT was 20 years ago

what will your next dream be?

>>10625768
That's an amazing setup with retro consoles, but no offense.... that emulator box neo geo ruins the vibe. I'm not insulting you...but you need to find a real retro Neo Geo and it in there anon! For the amount of money you paid for that mvsx you could have just bought an actual Neo Geo cabinet!

>>10625783
>For the amount of money you paid for that mvsx you could have just bought an actual Neo Geo cabinet!
And then you have to pay for a NeoGeo

>>10623479
>Trash tier set with RGB
Soul

>>10626420

Realistically how long does it take for these things to actually break? It seems like the board always goes before the tube.

>>10625787
i have an aes and several MVS boards
>>10625783
i would love a bigred (L-LEWD!)
but i am holding out for a vertical cab
OR an mvs 1-slot cabaret
i currently have a 1up that i converted\customized to be a jamma 4-button setup
i use it alot

mvsx is great though
>customizable neocd layout
>close for 2P nuzzling
>small size\footprint
>hylo = full retail library +cps(1\2)
if you dont want to blast 500$
a neo ASP pro and usb stick is great


pic somewhat related:
old as photo i took of the KoF series

>>10623537
you can get those exact monitors for under 150$ delivered on ebay pretty often
both of mine worked and were within 300 miles of me
just be patient
the model N145U or whatever has s-video & can be rgb modded if you are autistic
i just use rgb>svid scart converters
looks great

pic not related

>>10627119
Be careful with air purifiers that emit ozone. They really shouldn't be in the same room with anything you wish to preserve or people for that matter. Ozone accelerates the degradation of plastics and paper, harms the lungs, and not only does little to actually remove pollutants from the air but it can create additional pollutants when it reacts with certain VOCs.

I managed to talk to a seller for a unqiue CRT that I haven't been able to find any specs on Google. It's a Taiwan Brand CRT Called SAMPO Alpha Scan 950 20" can anyone tell me more about it?

>>10627504
If you cant find it on google, we don't know about it.
20" is very high end though, probably very nice and high scanrate

>>10627504
Found it on this list here

https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/government_information/intelligence_and_espionage/homebrew.military.and.espionage.electronics/servv89pn0aj.sn.sourcedns.com/_gbpprorg/mil/eckbox/monitors.html

Looks like the horizontal range is 30-95. Decently high.

tl;dr: are there any HDMI to component converters that output at 1440x1080i?

Picked up an HDCRT for free on the sidewalk.
I can get my PC can export at 1440x1080, but every HDMI to component converter I see only exports at 16:9. Not ready to drop hundreds of dollars on a scalar since at that point I could just buy a different CRT.

>>10627575
you should just try it and see if it works when you feed it 1440x1080i. If not you can just use 1920x1080i and force 4:3 desktop scaling with nvidia control panel to get 1440x1080i.

>>10627623
Forcing it through the nvidia control panel would work, but the TV itself has tons of overscan, which I can't fix in the nvidia control panel without also breaking the aspect ratio. Kind of a catch 22. I can have it 4:3 or I can have no overscan, but I can't have both. That's why I think getting a different converter would be the simplest solution.

>>10627736
can you get into the service menu to adjust the overscan?

>>10627389
its just a fan brother
i dont run the heater (pilots off)
and i rarely run ac even in summer
i stopped air scent plugs too
distilled water only

Anyone have a guide on recapping a pvm14n5u?

Planning on doing a full recap (it has some issues) and an rgb mod while I'm in there. Never done this before but this seems like a decent first choice. Lots of documentation and all the shit necessary for rgb is already present.

I can get this CRT
https://www.crtdatabase.com/crts/dell/dell-p780
for $50. Aside from a crack in the shell not shown in this picture, it seems to be in good shape. Worth it? It would be my first CRT.
Also, is 16" to small for playing PC games at my desk?

>>10627942
https://consolemods.org/wiki/images/0/05/Sony_SSM_PVM-20N6U_20N5U_14N6U_14N5U_Service_Manual.pdf
look at the parts list for every board. the caps labelled "ELECT" are the electrolytics

>>10628069
16" is plenty for a desk. that's what it was designed for, after all

>>10627942
waka video ebay
just use a lagless rgb to svideo adapter
run it til it breaks then replace
i only opened mine to remove rattling loose items & to dust off

not worth fucking with it
you could hurt yourself
or worse, hurt your /vr/ gear kek
i recap systems & arcadeboards but refuse to service crt

>>10627942
>circa survive
you are super gay

>>10627112
Where is a good place to buy a good conditions MVS? If Aliexpress, is it safe to use a debit card on and do you know of a good seller on there?

>>10628148
>being to much of a wuss to CRTs

>>10628160
prefame juturna era was ok
its just music kek
>>10628236
its not about being a wuss
i just have limits
i dont attempt boards exceeding $500 either
i just blast the $100 and let the dweeb with better solder gear than me do it
i got them shaky hands bro

i have done some ridic "mods"
but a few of them im never doing again kek

>>10627932
based shitzoid

Hi CRT general.

I'm searching for information on Chinese made CRT tubes. Someone told me that the Chinese still make brand new tubes? Is this true? Has anyone tried them and where can I order it?

I have several arcade cabinets with old bad monitors. I bought some new (old) stock K7000 monitors that had been sitting in a storage warehouse unused for years. I replaced the caps just to be sure. They worked fine for a few hours/days. Looks amazing, but then they started smoking and eventually shut off. All 3 of them broke within a few weeks. All started smoking out of nowhere and shut off. All of them in different cabinets.

I decided that these monitors are just too old to handle being run anymore. I need some new monitors. I don't want to put in an LCD, but I'm running out of options.

>>10617449
Is this 13 inch emerson CRT a good first CRT if I only have an N64, a PS2 and a Gamecube?

>>10628263
I don't accept limits. If I need better tools then I get better tools. If I need more knowledge then I get more knowledge. If I need more git gud then I get more git gud.

Found a PVM by pure luck. Never messed with them before.
has S video input and a few BNC video inputs. Am I correct that BNC to RCA adapters turn these into composite inputs?
It also has separate RGB inputs. Both BNC and a digital RGB input. Is there anything I can do with this or does that involve modding?
most importantly, damn thing is mono. What are good external speakers for SNES/Genesis/N64? Would a sub woofer be overkill?

>>10628335
Post pics

If those BNC inputs are labeled "line", or something like that, yeah it's composite and you just need an adapter

>>10628306
looks like a shit tier tv

>>10628314
i have git gud anon
it's cheaper to pay someone 100 bucks to buy the expensive desolder gun
my eyes arent so good these days either


I appreciate the sentiment, always striving for self improvement
certainly nothing wrong with that
however at a certain point it becomes gambling i am not a rich man
aes is getting recap via mail
jaguar too probably
i dont usually fail but would rather not on the rares

>>10628306
>Is this 13 inch emerson CRT a good first CRT if I only have an N64, a PS2 and a Gamecube?
I would say so. That's how I gamed back in the 1990s with my N64.

>>10628148
no one ever dies from CRTs. you are a huge pussy

>>10628296
>get unused monitor
>recap
you killed them yourself retard. had nothing to do with age. why do faggots think everything needs recapped?

>>10628459
The capacitors were only designed to last 15 to 20 years. Even if the CRT monitor was sitting unused in a box since the early 1990s, thats over 30 years ago.

>>10622349
Sound advice.

>>10628630
They were almost certainly better than the chongs you put in.

>>10628104
Thanks for the manual.

>>10628148
It's got a terrible green hue on bootup that doesn't go away until it warms up for 10+ minutes. So either I fix it or it craps out sooner or later. And the rgb mod is babby mode, as the 15n6u unit which is 99% identical already has rgb from the factory.
Anyways, even if I do break it, I have bigger and better crt's that I actually use. I don't even use this thing as it stands.

>>10628160
That's not my unit or room, just a pic of one with rgb mod already done

>>10628630
Was the smoke white? I bet you used a regular capacitor when a low ESR one was needed.

>>10628296
Put in an LCD. I don't want to be rude but you've killed 3 NOS tubes and so with the best will in the world, you don't know what you don't know. I don't either, all I know is that there was something that was wrong or went wrong while you were doing it and you didn't have the knowledge to spot it. So for the sake of what little stock is left, leave it to someone who does know what they don't know.

>>10628679
I am not that anon. But sometimes CRT monitors just fail. It happens. They don't last forever even if you baby them. Recapping and changing the flyback only go so far. Even the tube itself can fail.

>>10628630
no cap, you are a retard. Why did you not stop recapping them after you killed the first one?

:3

>>10629032
I have been meaning of getting one of these mini CRTs to play Wiith as well lol...
I want this meme setup for the office lol.

>>10628395

>>10628209
arcade project forums
i do ebay sometimes too
for alie they will be coverts or bootlegs
i have ordered a few there for around 40-55 each
"jw-sega store"

ebay can be the cheapest if dont mind checking often
and being a bit neurotic about it
>check, sort by ending soonest
>scroll til you have 4-6 days of time on the items
>interested? dont maxbid throw 11.11$ on there as a "placeholder"
set an alarm for 2 minutes before the auction ends and snipe in the last 3 seconds

>>10628456
i am what i eat anon

>>10629762
anon literally limits their skill, why even reply

>>10629756
Thanks. Would you recommend getting an AES for $500 or an MVS for $100 and then a Supergun? My only issue it that I don't have any RGB monitor and it seems like Superguns go for about $300. I have legit MVS copies of Metal Slug X and 3 along with KoF 98 if that makes a difference. I know you can't use MVS on AES, but still.

>>10629921
dont get a chinese supergun you will hate it +the cheap converters add latency (analog to digital back to analog)

supergunminigun or H.A.S.
i would go the gun route if you plan on picking up more boards than just mvs
if not open mvs sells kits you can use as a makeshift gun
then use a pc laptop style psu

i love having the AES but it is much more expensive for carts
there are adapters that let you use mvs carts on aes but theyre so comically expensive you might as well just hoard redundant mvs-1c boards instead

>no rgb monitor
not needed
flat panel = gaming monitor, upscaler gun and game (you can use a cheap hyperkin genesis hdmi as the rgb/hmdi for $30)
crt = rgb > svideo @ $50

i recommend building your own controller
the aes sticks are ok esp for that era but i dont want to be the one who breaks them kek

>>10629968
I was thinking of getting one of those "161 in 1" flash carts if I did got the AES route.

>>10629978
those carts are ok/serviceable
some graphical glitches
some games crash
some you cant beat they just trail on for infinite on the final stage
its a decent way to check out what titles you might want to pickup
but its a marginal step above pandora box junk
atleast they run at the appropriate speed on real hardware, not much else going for it other than price

i have mvs 161 in 1
and aes 161
i almost never fire up either now that i have games

Where’s the best place to get CRT’s? Estate sales?

>>10630135
offerup/craigslist/facebook boomer marketplace
i have had good luck with ebay but i think it depends on where you live and how far it has to ship

>>10630135
my basement

>>10629762
you eat huge worn out pussy?

Was there ever an official S-video cable for the Genesis/Mega Drive? The Sega Saturn had one, and apparently the Dreamcast had an ADAPTER for one, which is kind of weird, but did Sega ever make an official S-video cable for the Genesis/Mega Drive? I mean, Nintendo made one for the Super Famicom, and that was the game generation, so I'd think Sega would have done the same, but I can't seem to find one anywhere. Did Sega really drop the ball on that?

>>10630007
Thank you for all your detailed info!

>>10630258
No cables cause it doesn't have s-video.

>>10629482
you got a model number on that? don't recognize it.

>>10630304
>>10629482
https://crtdatabase.com/crts/sony/sony-pvm-1342q
Only mod it would need is if you want audio on the RGB input, but if you're using external speakers, it doesn't matter.

>>10630282
So it's not even capable of doing S-video at all? That's kinda disappointing.

>>10630349
just get a SCART cable and a cheap RGB to s-video converter on aliexpress for like $30.

>>10630273
no worries

supergun i hated was a red "cbox"
look closely at the pcb of what you are buying
if you see red chips/parts stuck on those converters are bottom of the barrel

>>10629790
>>10630207
anon pls high mileage is ok sans disease my dong is big enough kek


deep down you know we both have a point / always improve but dont be a dumbass and break expensive shit
if you think you cant do it you might be right
pick your battles brother

>>10630515
>new in box
>50k hours
which one is better?

>>10629126
yeah, they are cute. don't expect great quality though. this one is grayscale only.

>>10630349
It is with a simple mod

>>10628456
>no one ever dies from CRTs. you are a huge pussy

I actually got zapped pretty damn hard from a CRT. I had one unplugged for 2 weeks. I opened it up to repair work, and when my finger got near the PCB it zapped my hand. You could see the electricity zap my hand. It knocked me to the floor. It hurt like hell and felt like I got hit with a taser.

Thankfully I had the thing unplugged for 2 weeks. So I doubt it had a full charge. They aren't joking when they say CRTs can kill you. Who knows what would have happened with a fully charged CRT. Don't mess with CRTs unless you know what ur doing.

>>10630534
depends
im an idiot who will pick the prettier face

>>10630584
Yep, it's the same reason people tell you not to go poking around inside amplifiers.
The charge in those capacitors will fuck you up, and if you're unlucky it will kill you.
At the very least make sure you own a capacitor discharge tool and know how to use it.

>>10630541
>grayscale
sharper than any color crt

>>10630657
i have a sylvania b&w mini tv
scored it CiB at a thrift store for $20
its actually quite good in person
non-color sets remind me of the poorfag days playing on the handmedown b&w set at my grandmas

i have a color-kill modded apple ii crt and use that more often than i thought
the clarity/sharpness goes way up
i think the intent was to help basic code fags with blurryness over 240p rf

>>10630636
one hand in the back pocket bud
when i troubleshot my marshall head i was apprehensive

>>10630534
>>10630625
>try to refurb expensive thing outside skillset/comfort zone
>fail and lose nearly 1,000$ due to being too prideful/arrogant

>>10630636
>>10630584
Show me one example of a verifiable story where a person dies as a direct result of a shock from a CRT. I've been shocked by electric fences that hurt worse. I doubt either of you have ever opened one up let alone been shocked.

>>10631346
Anon. You don't die from CRT electrocuting you like it's an electric chair frying a death row prisoner (unless you are stupid and leave the CRT plugged in while working on it).
You die from an electrical shock powerful enough that can trigger a heart attack and THAT kills you. And yes anon. It's a real verifiable thing. Electrical shocks can trigger heart attacks.

>>10631358
post example or you are parroting made up bullshit.

>>10631360
they can cause your heart to stop in the same way an they use it to defibrillate

>>10631360
>>10631358
kinda
it takes slightly less than one amp of electricity to stop a human heart permanently
so if you touch something with a LOT of current with your hand on accident
you could injure yourself, damage equipment, or both
or death i guess but you would have to be alone and accidentally grab onto something within the chassis
electricity causes the muscles to contract so you wouldn't be able to let go (electric chair example)


consumer CRT are dangerous because they can hold high ampere and voltage even unplugged sometimes for up to a couple weeks
unless you know how to discharge the model you are working on or have some type of crazy service documentation or have done it before
I don't recommend opening them up like a tard and fiddling about

>>10631372
(in your head)

>>10629482
Has composite, s-video and RGB, nice. The digital RGB port is only for some really old computers, like commodore or something. Also, clean it up lmao

>>10631346
its not gonna instakill you like a static shock
but if you grabbed hold of the electric fence and your hand muscles seize up on it making it so you cant let go
what do you think will happen? kek


i would imagine the crt shock from a set that has been sitting unplugged for 20-30 days is less sting than a 240v live line shock
>circuit breakout box failed
>mains was mislabeled
>it was live
>was mad

>>10631375
In your imagination anon. You can't post a single instance of someone dying as a result of a CRT shock.

>>10631384
Post example. your imagination doesn't count

>>10631387
Not him, but if it happened, it was way before the internet, some retard in 1960s probably did get rekt poking around a turned on CRT

>>10631396
(in your head)

>>10631380
Not saying it will but a 30kv shock is enough to risk stopping a heartbeat
not the caps but the Anode

>>10631387
it's possible that there are no documented cases of electrocution by crt. it's possible that no one's ever been electrocuted by crt. but that doesn't mean that a person couldn't be electrocuted by a crt.

>>10631401
>>10631403
>i imagined it so its true

>>10631413
>I didn't imagine it so it is untrue
Imagine all the people... dying to CRT's.

>>10631346
>Show me one example of a verifiable story where a person dies as a direct result of a shock from a CRT. I've been shocked by electric fences that hurt worse. I doubt either of you have ever opened one up let alone been shocked
>>10631360
>post example or you are parroting made up bullshit.

OK. I have documented examples. But I want you to make a trip code account first. Make a post here with a trip code saying:

"If a verified story of someone dying from a CRT is posted, I will apologize and admit I was foolish for challenging the internet. I will admit I'm a Donkey butt moron. "

I want something out of this when you are proven wrong. I want your humiliation and delicious internet tears.

>>10631185
git gud

>>10631428
stop posting your weird fantasies.

>>10631434
Lmao. What a coward. All you needed to do was make a trip code account and post what I said. 10 seconds worth of work. Now you are running away like a rat.

This discussion is over.

>>10631185
>let me practice first time on expensive equipment
IQ issue

>>10631384
240V is nothing

>>10631439
>if i imagine it, its real

>>10631428
Coward

>>10617449
My BVM20D1FU no longer powers on :(. It doesn't even get a red standby light. I verified with a multimeter that the power board is getting power but stops getting voltage on the front panel where the buttons are. I'm guessing there's a dead capacitor somewhere on the power board.

Sigh...

>>10631442
Yep, does that upset you?

Imagine being gullible enough to fall for the CRT deadly meme parroted by retards who overcharge you to turn a couple knobs and reflow some solder

>>10631384
Depends, if you have a weak heart it can cause cardiac arrest, this is the biggest danger.

>>10631456
CRTs can shock you. The average color TV has 27,000 volts when fully charged, well over lethal level. Even if you don't die, if you have another medical condition then you could suffer after the shock happens. Like a heart condition or something else

>>10631441
>240v AC live line is nothing
lol wut?

>>10631464
Cool fantasy. That's never happened though.

This is getting ridiculous. While it is technically true that a discharge from an unplugged CRT can kill you it is exceedingly unlikely. The most dangerous part of the shock is your reaction to it. What does actually stand a good chance of killing you is the power supply and B+ if the thing is powered.

People pissing their pants in fear at the mere thought of opening a CRT TV makes me lol

>>10631520
Nothing wrong with being cautious. I've read about people dying from dumber things.

>>10631524
I'm cautious with CRTs. Probably overly cautious. I'm not talking about caution. I'm talking about letting fear stop you from doing necessary the maintenance yourself.

>>10631531
You're among friends here, you may refer to it as "doing the needful"

>>10631520
>>10631509
>>10631531
It's not "unlikely". It's a possibility that shouldn't be ignored. You have a cavalier attitude about working with CRTs. If you think it's so unlikely then stop discharging them and just do the work without worry about it. Oh wait you still discharge CRTs even when it's unlikely? Heh.

>>10631560
If it's possible surely you can post an example of someone dying from a CRT

>>10631464
if you have a heart condition lifting the CRT is more likely to kill you than getting shocked

>>10631560
I am extremely cautious and anything but cavalier as I stated previously.
There's a difference between
"Be careful"
and
"Don't do it. Overpay another man to do it for you because it's so scary and the CRT will shoot Palpatine lighting at you if you look at it the wrong way."

>>10631647
This is why I pay other men to service my gf and CRTs. It's not worth the risk.

>>10631474
I shock myself for fun all the time. I have a outlet without a cover and I wet the tips of my fingers and do a V shape and short the two contacts with my fingers. The buzz is nice.

Would buying a 5 inch CRT be retarded in a good way or retarded in a bad way?

>>10631647
>Overpay another man to do it for you because it's so scary and the CRT will shoot Palpatine lighting at you if you look at it the wrong way

Or maybe my time is more valuable than spending hours or days tinkering and soldering a CRT monitor PCB and worrying if Im doing it wrong. I'd rather pay someone else to do it. That way I have more free time to play more games. Not worrying about fixing CRTs.

>>10631687
There's nothing wrong with it. Just depends on the available inputs and if it's a color screen or not. Mini CRTs are getting hard to find. Everyone threw them out years ago so only a few are still around. So it's good investment if nothing else. In another 10 or 15 years they will all be extinct online.

>>10631680
>Buzz
anon, that's a bang, not a buzz

>>10631704
As long as you've come to terms with your sexuality and are happy, I'll support you, anon.

>>10631704
It's part of the fun IMO.

>>10631748
For me It's not directly related to gaming so I don't enjoy it. I like the look of CRTs. I grew up with CRTs. But I don't want to fix them. I take no joy in fixing their issues. I want to play games on them.

>>10631778
gross

>>10631704
The point of doing something you are uncertain about is accomplishment. I sincerely hope you don't apply this logic to every single possible opportunity for fun tinkering in your life.

>>10631778
for me, all the fun is fixing geometry (but never being successful) and never playing games

>>10631778
I'm into tech repair in general, so it's just a bonus.

>>10631687
It's retarded in a bad way. The screen is so small you can't see anything. 14 inches is the absolute minimum

>>10631859
This is the correct approach. CRTs (and especially PVMs) are not for playing games, you're supposed to just obsess over them

>>10632352
That and the joy of "will the jungle imitiate blanking?" of rgb modding.

>>10631704
>>10631647
>I AM SILLY!!!
why is it that we have to create a caricature of the opinions we don't agree with? kek

fixing stuff is fun/good/cool/great or whatever
but the truth is I have more stuff to fix then I have time to
I could spend the time researching/rgb modding etc
I'll have wasted time and money for a marginal increase in picture quality (over svid)


when you get old you realize it's just not worth it I'd rather spend my time doing something where I'm happy

if you pay other people for repairs you build working relationships with them
freebies etc trades etc dealz

>>10632536
>when you get old you realize it's just not worth it I'd rather spend my time doing something where I'm happy
That's literally what I realized.
See >>10632070 >>10631748

I'll be picking up a pretty basic early-2000's crt monitor from a friend soon. As well as PC gaming, I'd like to play some 6th and 7th gen consoles on it. What's a good solution for playing Gamecube games on a crt monitor via a Wii? I'm thinking of using a component to vga converter like picrel.

>>10632614
Man I really need to my make my GBS a nice little case. I've got bare PCBs lying there for over a year now.

>>10632614
I've got a garo component to VGA transcoder and it works for everything except my wii for some reason. I'm positive it's at 480p but get out of range from wii on multiple monitors with it. if you get one working with wii post which one you got.

>>10632614
I'm currently using one of those AliExpress GBSCs and GameCube games look great in 480p passthru or 720p, the issue I'm not sure how to address when using a PC monitor with external hardware is how to compensate for brightness and gamma since most monitor OSD controls don't allow the fine tweaking computer controls provide.

>>10632345
I have two, pic related and also a jvc tm, and I like them. If it's your first you'll probably be underwhelmed. They were meant to sit on a desk directly in front of someone. Not really playable across a room or anything like that.

>>10633058
meant to quote >>10631687

>>10633058
Oh, that's perfect then. I'm planning to just plonk it down on my desk next to me.

Does my Wega pass the test?

A good clean fully working CRT TV with component inputs is worth $300 shipped.

>>10633298
Meanwhile a top notch condition 32" black Sony Trinitron consumer TV with several RGB SCART inputs costs 5€.

>>10633321
>CRTs are cheap and plentiful in America
>CRTs are cheap and plentiful in Europe
>CRTs are expensive and scarce in the UK
I hate it here

>>10633321
But that's not the kind of CRT I want.
I want a specific 27" CRT with component inputs, and I'm willing to pay up to $300 shipped for it.
Therefore it is worth $300.

>>10631854
I have a limited amount of free time each day outside of work. So I have to be selective on what I choose to do. Gaming is #1. Fixing CRTs is not. I'll just pay someone like you to fix it so I have more time to play my backlog of games.

>>10633324
At you understand these facts compared to many of your countrymen on 4chan who think because they don't see CRTs anymore then nobody does.

>>10633058
could you take a picture of a text on later gen console that outputs 480i? i wanna know how readable small text is in something like zelda or the the ammo count in an fps. also what input you're using.

>>10631854
>The point of doing something you are uncertain about is accomplishment.
This is the statement of a very young person.

required viewing for anyone who thinks they should DIY everything
https://youtu.be/-1CACkgUJcU

>>10633351
Nah.

t. 45

>>10633321
>Meanwhile a top notch condition 32" black Sony Trinitron consumer TV with several RGB SCART inputs costs 5€.

You need to leave America or mainland Europe. CRTs are gone in the rest of the world. And it's too expensive to ship replacements to my country. Not worth the cost.

I found an old school Pac Man in the basement of my neighbor who gave it to me for free if I took it away. The tube was necked and busted. But the cost to ship in a replacement arcade monitor from another country was ridiculously expensive. So I just put in a gaming LCD they use on esports. Now it works and functions in my living room for everyone to play.

>>10633346
I mean, they aren't that horribly rare here, but definitely a lot harder to find than in other countries.
There are quite a few on FBM and Gumtree, but most of them are turbo budget models and/or eye-wateringly overpriced.
Oh, and I'm playing on veteran difficulty because I don't have a car.

>>10633353
Ironic considering I fix my own CRTs, maintain my own car and have renovated my own house, done all the electricity, pipe and networking work and built the shack in the garden. Just like my dad did before me (the house I live in was built by him and inherited to me).

>inb4 regulations
Fuck that shit. It's my personal shit, I'll cry if I don't get insurance, not you or the people who make the law, but I'll keep doing DIY.

>>10633353
>disabled and NEET
>live off welfare and disability money, plus any extra I make with my hobbies
>will have to do so till I die
>every day just spend time doing things I like and learning / acquiring new skills or refining old ones

>>10633365
yup, you're the dummy from the video

>>10633375
you're not disabled if you're able to put those skills into practice to the same level of the work of a skilled professional

>>10633376
Worked perfectly well for 30 years by now, I'll stick to it.

>>10633379
you're just ignorant

>>10633356
>CRTs are gone in the rest of the world.
Plenty of CRTs remain in India and China.

>USA
>mainland europe
>China
>india

That's most of the world.

>>10633321
>>10633328
It will cost nearly $300 to properly ship a CRT that size.

>>10633380
Until one day...you accidently burn your house down, and find out your DIY electrical wiring was the cause of the fire.

>>10633389
No.

>>10633386
Yes please direct me to all the Arcade CRTs in India. Lmao.

>>10633396
At no point in this thread of discussion was it specified it had to be an arcade CRT. Your request is denied for being off-topic.

This thread is really weird.

It's mostly people who play retro gaming on CRTs and enjoy it as a casual hobby. And enjoy talking about different CRT models. Just happy to have them.

And then you have a few turbo autists who camp. This thread 24/7 and insult anyone who doesn't meet their standards of their (questionable) DIY CRT repair. Do they not have jobs or a life? They also don't realize that life doesn't revolve around CRTs and that some countries don't have them anymore.

>>10633390
>implying
My work is better than majority of contact electricians.
But whatever, keep arguing if you want.

>>10633405
>discussing repair arcade cabinets
>oh shit he found a hole in my argument. Gotta find an out to not look stupid.

Lmao.

Give me a Trinitron :)

This thread is really weird.

It's mostly people who play retro gaming on CRTs and enjoy it as a casual hobby. And enjoy talking about different CRT models. Just happy to have them.

And then you have a few turbo autists who camp. This thread 24/7 and insult anyone who doesn't meet their standards of their (questionable) CRT usage. Do they not have jobs or a life? They also don't realize that life doesn't revolve around them and different people enjoy different things.

>>10633416
many people are saying this

>>10633386
>india
India? Lmao. No one is seriously ordering and shipping CRTs from India.

>liking DIY means you don't have a life or a job
wut, what the hell

>>10633396
Any of the millions of late-era flatscreen CRTs sold with component inputs would work fine as a home arcade monitor.
>inb4 that doesn't count because flatscreen CRTs have bad geometry.
This is known as "moving the goalposts". First it was CRTs didn't exist in India, now it's a specific breed of CRT that you want.


Lots of viable CRTs here
https://www.f******k.com/marketplace/chennai/old-tvs/

>>10633379
Not anon but missing a leg for example makes you 100% disabled in most civilized countries, even if you have a prosthetic
That won't stop you from doing any desk or stationary work just as well as someone who has both of their legs

Even type 1 diabetes gives you 50% disability and that's hardly a hindrance in most cases

>>10633421
I question if you are capable of doing DIY correctly. Or if you take a bunch of cheap amateur shortcuts. Show me an example of your work.

>>10633420
Indians make up a large portion of internet users and the world population.
They are not shipping them. They are finding them locally and still using them.

>>10633425
>Any of the millions of late-era flatscreen CRTs sold with component inputs would work fine as a home arcade monitor.
Thousands of arcade enthusiasts and professionals would disagree. You call yourself an expert, but don't even realize there's an entire level above tinkering with consumer crts. You are just mid.

>>10633425
lmao

>>10633427
What do you want? Close up of my solder joints or something?
You realize that majority of the people who repair CRTs or do console modding for /vr/ fags lack any actual education in the field and are self taught?

>>10633434
There's no need for tinkering with them.
You're asking for something that goes beyond the requested function. Once again moving the goalposts because now it can't be an RGB CRT that checks all the common boxes for compatibility and requested functions, but now it must be something with the right screen curvature, dot pitch, or support for medium and high resolution modes.

You know what you are?
A stubborn asshole who doesn't ever like to admit they are wrong about anything even a little bit.

Chipi chipi chapa chapa
Dubi dubi daba daba
Mágico mi dubi dubi
Bum, bum, bum, bum

>>10633442
based anon

>>10633434
>Thousands of arcade enthusiasts and professionals would disagree.
I'm one of them and I disagree with you. Component TVs make fine arcade monitors.

>>10633435
No one is going to pay hundreds of dollars to ship one of those from India.

>>10633442
>literally talking about repairing arcade cabinets
>wHY doNt u UsE a SOnY in ur CabinEt???? REEEEEEEEE

Consumer CRTs are not good enough. Deal with it and stop crying that your argument has failed.

>>10633457
Your the type of guy that runs a ghetto arcade, and makes customers use a remote control to turn on the CRT screen to play the game. Bottom tier.

>>10633460
Majority of arcade tubes are slightly higher end consumer tubers with decent TVL and hooked up over RGB

>>10633458
If it was the exact right CRT I wanted? Hmm, maybe...

>>10633468
So now the arcade monitor has to be in an actual commercial arcade setting?
Not just used for playing arcade games at home? You know like 99% of people in thread would be using it.

Ghetto arcades have the best players btw.

>>10633393
You're right. The lowest quote I got for freight delivery from California to Texas is $400 for residential delivery. The shipper will have to drop it of at a terminal and the receiver will have to unload it. This is for a 27 inch JVC D series on a pallet.

beat a couple levels then saved and quit
time to play grand theft auto liberty city stories

>>10633458
Will they pay hundreds of dollars to I know what I got guy instead?

>>10633476
How ghetto is your setup? You are the one who called yourself an actual arcade professional. Now your complaining about keeping cabinets running in original condition. Sounds like you're a fake and pretender.

>>10633457
>I'm one of them and I disagree with you.
Doubt.

I have a 21 year old CRT, I can't explain how it works. It's like magic. Hope it continues to work for a very long time.

>>10633538
Hope it will, anon

>>10633514
>all the anons replying to me are the same person
You're one those idiots.
We're done here.

>>10633542
Mostly because I have no idea how I'd replace it in this day and age.

>>10633494
You don't need freight for that.
UPS ships up to 150 lbs.
A 27" CRT TV isn't near that, even with the packing materials and box included.

>>10633348
Honestly, wouldn't use it for anything after fifth generation, but here is Halo. I can actually read the HUD but find it difficult to photograph these tiny screens. This is the 250 TVL JVC.

>>10633551
Additional note: A 27" JVC D series weighs less than 80 lbs. Definitely not freight.

>>10633328
>27" CRT with component inputs
Fine, but it won't be able to play any games in component.

>>10633551
The reason for freight shipping is so it doesn't get broken. Anything else is a gamble.

>>10633587
>Fine, but it won't be able to play any games in component.
Did you lose track of what you were replying to? I'm not going to buy some cheap CRT that has fake component inputs.
>>10633594
Paranoia. Just make sure before buying the shipper knows what they are doing. Look for a seller who has shipped several CRTs and has good feedback.

>>10633553
God damn that is some low resolution

>>10633543
>You're one those idiots.
>We're done here.

Oh puh-lease.

How many anons do you think camp the /vr/ board, specifically post on CRT general, within the last hour, use the same grammar and post style, AND hate on arcade monitors? Most of these anti-arcade posts are you.

>>10633543
>You're one those idiots.
Lmao. ESL.

>>10633636
It is, but trust me it's better in person. I would have no problem going through most retro games.

>>10633639
>Actual ESL
Embarassing

>>10633543
>You're one those idiots
>You're one of* those idiots
If you're going to insult someone's intelligence, then make sure your spelling and grammar are on point.

>>10633660
>>10633662
>>10633685
>>10633637
cringe

>>10633660
I definitely think this would be best for Atari games but nothing more
It does look unique though

>>10633637
>How many anons do you think camp the /vr/ board, specifically post on CRT general, within the last hour,
This general is one of the most popular and fast moving threads on /vr/.

>>10633457
>I'm one of them and I disagree with you. Component TVs make fine arcade monitors.
You don't fix arcade machines. Post a picture or you're full of bullshit.

>>10633748
It's fine.

>>10633836
Because you samefag and spam the thread. You camp and live here 24/7

>>10633917
Oh god
I definitely still stand by that statement but if you like it, more power to you

>>10633928
It's 250 TVL, that's the same as most consumer TVs of that era. It's not going to photograph well because of how shitty my phone's camera is. I'm telling you it's better in person but you're just judging the picture.

>>10618429
>>10618634

Good job! Some of the best equipment I ever had came from asking the boss if I could take X thing I found in the back room. Got a Pippin in the box that way.

>>10633917
Is convergence as bad as it looks in the picture?

>>10633960
Nah I’m judging by how big and visible every phosphor is

>>10633892
There is an essential distinction between arcade monitor and arcade machine you're apparently too dimwitted to understand here. An arcade monitor need not have an accompanying cabinet.
It's a display device to play arcade games, which can be delivered in the form of a supergun, emulation, FPGA, or console/PC port.
When I'm playing an arcade game on a component television it is being used as an arcade monitor.

>>10633973
jesus you're a dumb fuck

>>10633343
You're free to do so, but being into old games without having any interest in tinkering with the tech surrounding old games is pretty gay, imho.

>>10619515
some guy in my area is selling the same thing but for fiddy bucks

should I do rgb scart to RCA or should I do component to RCA?

The arcade monitor that gets wanked over the most, the Nanao MS9-29, uses the same tube found in premium Toshiba consumer CRTs.

The tube code is A68KJU96X

A - TV tube
68 - Viewable size in centimeters (26.8")
KJU - Region Code (Japan)
96 - Tube Family Code
X- P22 phosphors (consumer grade)

It's a fairly unremarkable shadow mask CRT.

>>10634026
Good quick look-up source for tube codes:
https://www.arcadezentrum.com/forum/board/index.php?thread/17815-interest-check-monitor-kompendium/&pageNo=2

>>10634019
Video source? CRT?

>>10620536
>only use it at the same distance as the screen would be
All you have to do is adjust the focus on the lenses.

>>10621326
Then flip it in software.
However, the best thing to do is get a normal CRT projector. They are of much better quality than typical rear projection units.

>>10619247
The notion that large CRTs look "bad" is nonsense from autists who spend more time looking at convergence and geometry patterns than anything else.

>>10634019
>RCA
You mean composite? Just use composite to begin with.

>>10634036
>source
ps2, n64, gamecube, saturn, dreamcast, etc. Lots of shit.
>crt
pvm20m4u

>>10634076
Sorry, I meant BNC not RCA

>>10634078
>>10634091
BNC cables directly from the console. Get an extron matrix switch while they're still cheap.

>>10634026
Yes, arcade monitors were mid. The important parts were that they used RGB and the geometry and picture controls were tuned for whatever game was being played.

>>10634078
RGB is negligibly better. they're practically indistinguishable. convenience is more of a factor here

>>10633976
I'm dumb because I don't like your low resolution TV?
very bold of you anon

>>10634103
>Get an extron matrix switch while they're still cheap
Planning that now, actually. Looking at listings for em and trying to figure out what I need.

>BNC cables directly from the console.
Like splicing a scart cable to a bnc cable? Probably the best way to do it.

>>10634140
>Like splicing a scart cable to a bnc cable?
I'd just buy them from whatever people are selling them now.
I think retrogamingcables and retroaccess has them (not cheap, though).

>>10633976
>>10634125
Sorry, I am dumb
I didn't realise it was 5 inches, I thought it was 14

>>10634058
>>10620573

glad i kept them from my childhood

>>10634078
Take the path of least resistance which preserves 60hz.

>>10630304
>>10630332
Anon with the PVM here. 1343MD
https://crtdatabase.com/crts/sony/sony-pvm-1343md
>>10631381
It was stuck in a lab for god knows how many years. Got it from my uni's surplus. I'll get around to it.

I wanna make a videotape of some of my favourite music videos. How would you guys do that with a laptop and a VCR?

God i hate the migraines of CRT eyestrain.
You can tell who never had to grow up with these things

>>10634612
>You can tell who never had to grow up with these things
People with weak eyes who get migraines from CRTs?

>>10634592
hdmi to composite converter

>>10634612
don't state something that's unique to your bitch-ass as if it's a universal issue.

Is this game better on a PS2 with a CRT television or on a modern computer with a regular IPS display?

What is the model of the CRT monitor in the 1st gen DDR cabs? Like Dancing Stage Euromix 2. Is there a way to get a replacement flyback for it?

>>10634861
It's a PC game, obviously it will be better on a PC

>>10634861
PC with a good monitor.

>>10623569
600 pesos is like 40bux or some shit, cuh

Just got this set and stand for free. Nice upgrade from my 17 inch sharp.

>>10635119

>>10635125

>>10634861
PC with a CRT monitor at 800x600 tops.

>>10634612
-said the zoomer who grew up playing ps3 and xbox 360 games in interlaced mode on a SDTV.

>>10635128
Why does it smell the stick?

>>10634026
Whats wrong with it? Cant go wrong with round tubes.

>>10635630
There's nothing wrong with it.
It's just that there's getting to be this meme on the board that arcade monitors are somehow special and a consumer television can never be an appropriate substitution for one.
There's no merit to that argument.

>>10631375
You would also need the current to go through your heart would you not? This could happen if your other hand or your feet were grounded but probably not if you were wearing shoes and holding your dick.

>>10633123
yes

I got an old Phillips matchline classic F1.10 50Hz. It has some pretty bad bowing and geometry. Is it a retarded idea to try and fix it myself? Or should I just call someone out?

>>10634959
https://www.ukvac.com/forum/threads/ddr-29-inch-monitor.79227/
>The original DDR monitor is a Toshiba D29CR55.

Anybody know a good DP to VGA converter with minimal lag for displaying up to 2048×1536? Would like to get the most out of my GDM F520.

>>10638016
They are DACs, they don't lag.

Recommended good known brands are DeLock, StarTech and Rankie. Can't tell you about pixel clocks since between even the same models, they sometimes use different chips. Have to try yourself for that.

>>10638028
I hear DACs have a delay

>>10638028
Unlike dvi/hdmi where a designer would have to go out of their way to make it laggy. DP is packet based so a buffer is required, which opens the door for a carelessly design resulting in lag.

>>10638429
>>10638429
Yeah but we're still talking about sub-1ms, which is irrelevant.

>>10638429
>>10638460
You're both wrong, most ports can do ++ so as long as the dongle shows up as a native VGA port in the driver, it won't have additional latency

>>10638429
Anon was asking for a DP adapter, even with DP being packet based, they all would have the same latency by design, if they are DP. So this is totally irrelevant.

>>10619515
I saw some boomer on facebook trying to sell an HP laptop from 2012 for $200 dollars and in the comments of the post someone asked him why he thought a 12 year old laptop was worth that much and he said "I need to buy a new computer since this one doesn't work". When they then asked why he thought he could sell a broken 12 year old laptop for $200 dollars he replied "it's a good deal if you can fix computers you can make it like new"

I hate boomers so much it's unreal

>>10618634
Cool to see this thread is still up a week later. Here's that 19" Sony with something on it this time.

>>10637970
can you take a picture of the screen? how bad is it?

>>10638709
n o i c e

>>10638709
Based

what shielded speakers would you recommend to pair with a sony kv20fv12? mine's right speaker doesn't work according to 240p Suite's speaker test

>>10638774
Some nice entry level monitors maybe?

Anyone got tips for taking better pics of CRTs? I got a Pixel 7 Pro and I'm never happy with the pics

>>10638898
It has to do with the processing that smartphones do when taking pics of CRTs.
I'd be interested if anyone knew how to get around that, too.

>>10638909
make pics in raw with manual adjustments?

hyuck

>>10638960
I use an iPhone for reference, but even trying to take "RAW" pics on there has processing which desaturates the image heavily and I can never quite get it right in post.

>>10638898
I get decent pictures by repeatedly tapping on my to refocus on the CRT screen until it finally syncs up long enough for a shot. just keep focusing until you don't see any weird shit

>>10639110
my phone*

Can a CRT's geometry 'fix itself' over time? Used to look wonky.. and somehow doesn't now. Everything seems perfect. I didn't do anything to it recently, I don't think. Been regularly playing games for the first time in a while.

>>10639120
Sure if it hasn't been used a while, electronics rejuvenate and heal themselves after you start using it again after long periods, like capacitors.

why does outputting 480i on my tv cause warping around the edges?

Anyone have a guess as to what inputs this has? searching for ct-907 gets me nothing. someone is selling it new in the box

>>10639282
another pic that was on the listing. It's kinda far so I don't want to bother driving if its composite or rf only.

they won't take it out of the box for more pics

>>10639128
is it flat screen? I notice pin distortion when i set my geometry for 240p on my flat CRTs then switch to 480i. doesn't happen on my curved ones

>>10639282
Panasonic ID numbers have the screen size in inches as the first thing following ct-, so this is a 9 inch CRT.

>>10639323
thanks, saves me the trouble. Don't really want a 9 inch. it looked bigger. And that size pretty much guarantees composite or rf only. I thought it might be a bigger one with component or s-video

>>10639323
are you sure it's not 90cm?
Panasonics aren't usually an American thing

>>10639448
? We have panasonics in the united states
I have a 27" myself that starts with ct-27 and that applies to every other american panasonic i've seen

>>10639448
the listing was in the US

>>10639304
Yeah a 2001 flat screen crt

good news everyone! your snes can now look like an emulator!

>>10640089

>>10640089
>dumbass thinks 1chip is an emulator
(You)

i love my crt

>>10640303
why does it look like a gameboy light?

>>10640314
the specific area is foggy https://youtu.be/qdYywfgRURU?si=hn6Nian4eaSmtknm&t=260

>>10640317
well either your camera is making it look blue or it's a bit imbalanced with the colour because that looks a little more grey in that video