/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10575809
Don't know. I normally don't get into games like this, but PSO is perfect and I've spent countless hours replaying it. Everything about how it looks and feels works for me. Even offline it's enjoyable just running through Forest for the millionth time. The simple combo system is satisfying. It was also my first real experience with an online game, so that itself was a magical experience. Lots of good memories of just hanging out in the lobbies.

>>10575816
This, this, and this

PSO is literally my happy place. The private server community is such a wholesome community too. Not to sound like a fag or anything but everyone currently in the lobby is like a family. Everyone knows each and we just shoot the shit in the lobby when we’re not grinding & doing quests. The soundtrack just brings the experience together.

>>10575809
cuz it good!! i hate multiplayer now tho, the min max gotta quest boys ruined the chill grind.

>>10575850
I don't play online for this reason. They've totally missed the fun of these games

It's worth it to play it single player?

>>10575809
It was made with sovl, inspiration and gamedev experience, but also a kind of naivety about online games that led to bold and unique choices. These days, online games are just copy paste, many aspects are considered "solved". Modern games also don't operate within the same limitations, which leads to less artistic expression. Limitations are what make something art and not mere reproduction.

>>10576467
It's still fun but playing online is even better in my opinion and you'll usually progress faster. Only downside if you play PSOBB, your characters are saved on the server so you need internet access to play at all, but it's also the best way to play online (Ephinea has the biggest playerbase), plus PC lets you assign items/techs/etc to numbers on your keyboard which is definitely an advantage.
If you want to be able to play without internet access or want to play local split-screen, play the GameCube version

What’s the best class?

>>10576467
No, not really. Not because it isn't good, or fun, but because playing online with others is just that much more of an amazing experience.

>>10577082
FOnewarl. Fuck the haters. Spam Gifoie, and never S/D even if they beg you.

>>10575809
This is one of the few games I wish I could have experienced back in its day. It looks great, and I know I could play it on private servers, but the fact that everyone moved on from it makes me not want to play it. Final Fantasy 11 is another game like this.

>>10575809
>how can a game feel so magical?
Magic doesn't even exist in this game.

>>10577114
Hackers ruined the original run.

>>10577119
I got NOL'd! I got KIREEK'd! I GOT BSODed! And still I kept playing (after restoring my characters and levels by using a burned gameshark CD).

>>10577136
Isn’t there a way to save your state on a website in case some faggot does that?

rip zyzz

>>10577149
Hackers are a non-issue if you play on Ephinia.

There's still no fix to playing with assholes, unfortunately.

>>10577149
Oh, I meant when playing back on Dreamcast in the old days. You stored your entire character on the memcard and they basically just saved over it.

I'd say it's mainly the music. It has a real emotional edge to it that hits you even if you haven't played the game before.

What's the best version to play offline? I don't know anything about the game.

>>10575809
One word - Atmosphere.
A combination of character design, setting design, and music made PSO a cool experience...Especially when it dropped, and the whole MMO thing was relatively new.

As much as I played it back in the day, I admit I don't so much anymore. But, I still love listening to the soundtracks!

>>10577116
>Magic doesn't even exist in this game.
According to the lore, it does. But it's extremely rare, so Techniques were invented to simulate magic use for a wider range of people.

>>10577259
Ephinea, the private server, is the one stop solution to playing PSO nowadays. if youre an insane person i think you can hook up a dreamcast and play private servers too

Why can't the Robotic characters do any magic and/or Techniques, not even the basic stuff?

>>10578158
Cause the they’re fuckin’ robots…

>>10578181
Yes, they are robots, and guess what do they lack that both humans AND elves have in them?

>>10578185
You do know that they make up for it in stats right? They also have the abilities to set traps/bombs.

>>10578195
Sure thing, and they are immune to some, but not all,status ailment effects.

>>10578195
Also they autoheal while literally idling

>>10578197
>>10578315
Then what’s your point? You just answered your own question. I’m the only RAcast on the SCHTHACK server because I’m the only one that acknowledges the ridiculous ass blown power stats of the RAcast. Even at Lv.1 I can hop right in without a weapon and still mog enemies in hand combat plus everything you just mentioned. Also Casts & Caseals are better when it comes to Mags since I don’t have to worry about the Mind stats. Power on top of power is fuckin’ OP as fuck and I love it. Matter a fact, I’m gonna go play some PSO right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asgELTWi2R0

It's a shame they never really managed to recapture the magic of the original, I always hear people say the newer games aren't the same.
Surprising they never did a 'classic' release on PC/console that's literally the Dreamcast game with no changes. It seems like there's a strong enough community to make it worthwhile.

>>10578424
this

>>10578424
The GameCube version was great. I bought the network adapter just to play it and had a lot of fun. Then I bought Phantasy Star Universe for the 360 and haven't touched the franchise since.

>>10578457
>The GameCube version was great.
This. GC PSO is kino. Still play it split-screen with buddies to this day.

>>10577234
I'm not sure... That would be pretty rad though. Could this be true?

In the old Dreamcast days, you really had to trust your party members. When you died you would drop your weapon you had equipped, and all your Meseta (money) on the floor where you died. Anyone could just pick it up. Some people would steal and then just log off lol.

>>10578457
>>10578467
buy this

>>10578471
I had pic related instead, because I'd rather just have a normal controller for general gameplay and only use the keyboard when necessary.

>>10578479
If I would’ve known that existed, I wouldn’t have spent $200 on that GC keyboard controller. Keyboards is the best way to communicate on PSO but playing with my elbows all the way out doesn’t make any fucking sense.

>>10578491
>>10578471
https://youtu.be/cnz6PA1GbCM?si=YGyoDmbK4PTXw7UH

>>10578503
Nice strawman and ragebait post, /v/tard with severe, or at least substantial. Down syndrome. You will never get to have your erroneously installed extra Chromosome 21 uninstalled.

>>10575809
Great atmosphere, music and a satisfying gameplay loop. At some point it becomes almost like muscle memory, you just do shit without thinking about it, which also allows you to focus more on the social aspect, chatting with others on the server. It's not a very complicated game, but it's fun and you can just kinda zone out while playing it.

>>10575839
recently started on ephinea or whatever after almost holy shit it has been over two decades since i played pso
regardless, playing it now is a blast and the online functions very well

>>10578417
Pretty good track. Nostalgic.
I also like the intro and the credit music for both episodes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Ufyp3F4tU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFz7Tf8paXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N4QKSzIouU
One day I will be strong enough to get through Ultimate difficulty...

>Get a Dreamcast last year.
>Get PSO in six months.
>CIB. Everythings spotless. Even had the Sonic Adventure Demo Disc.
>Registration complete.
>Just stand there on Pioneer 1.
>Remember the one time I played it at a friends house in spring of 2001.
>"You see those characters running around anon? Those are real people! Watch!"
>Pulled up a Keyboard.
>Took the time to write out a hello message.
>A few stopped, looked at him, then said hello back. One asked if he wanted to go "Play in the forest".
>Watch him clear all the way to the Dragon Boss with two Space Elves while he shot around in his Robot.
>Tear up as I look around empty the empty ship.
Its a beautiful game, theres so much passion to it. I hate to use this word, but it has a soul all its own that hasn't been replicated since.
I wish I could go back in time, and play the game when it was at its peak.

>>10575809
The reason it's so simple is why its so good. People especially today get trapped into thinking that if a game has MORE things you can do it is automatically better. Sometimes adding more just distracts from and waters down the good stuff. PSO works because it's only the good stuff on constant loop and theres no bullshit filler to distract from it. It's why every sequel to PSO has been lame. How do you expand on something that works precisely because it is so compact and efficient?

>>10577259
Gamecube is the best offline version. But unless you are doing split screen multiplayer you are really missing the point by playing offline

>>10577114
Still pisses me off that there are no true server snapshots of FF11 at 75cap.

99cap ruined that game.

>>10579287
The only thing I wish they would add is the personal room and the synthesizer from PSU. Loved crafting items and having a place to hang with buddies thats away from all the rest.

>>10575809
Pure soul.

>>10579313
Nah crafting just makes things a slog. You don't get as excited about drops when they are just pieces of the thing you really want. Having weapons drop directly and using Tekkers for variation was a much smarter system

>>10579319
The thing about the PSU crafting is that it was more of a side option than anything. Most I ever did for it was to change the color and attributes of my weapons. Frost Damage for that slow affect and chance to freeze bay-bee.

PSO is the only game I ever wanted to actually live in, much the same way tons of faggots fantasize about Pokemon being real. Despite how dangerous it all fucking is, because the online multiplayer aspect was the main drive, all of the promotional and concept art just focused on teams of four just chilling out in beautiful places. The only thing to have ever come close to ever giving me that sensation since has been, maybe, VRChat but just fucking barely. Lots of neat PSO worlds and things to visit and see in VRChat, though most Phantasy Star content is based off of PSO2 sadly.

>>10579287
Eh, I would argue Tetris DS as a package is a better experience than the original Tetris on its own. The key is not have any experimentation replace or distract from the core enjoyment. Phantasy Star Zero for the Nintendo DS did it very well, felt far more like a PSO title than Episode III Card Revolution ever did that's for sure.

>>10579368
Crafting was only optional if you grinded so much you could afford to buy the crafted shit from other players to avoid the headache of crafting, and even though PSU had far better gameplay and variety than PSO's simple 1-2-3 rhythm for everything, going through any PSU level already feels like you've already been there a thousand times before. There's variety in scenery but not layout or design. It's the same fucking hallway and groups of mobs nonstop and it's not fun. It especially didn't help that PSU was plagued by so many promises of new areas behind literally locked doors and gates but never fucking opened any of them.

PSO was an online game before the days of WoW, where normies were obsessed about having the best gear at all times instead of the actual experience of playing the game for itself. Sure you could hunt for specific things in PSO but it was rare I remember anyone playing it the same way people played WoW, where they insisted on using fifty mods to track quests and teleport you to npcs and basically play the game for them.

First of all they're not compatible since PSO is a lobby-based game and not an MMO. You'd have to compare PSO more to Diablo (which it is directly inspired by). Second, people absolutely did min/max PSO and pre-WoW MMOs in fun killing ways too. You just were too young to be aware of it.

>>10576467
No. It's a textbook MMO grind with no real story.

>>10579637
filtered. You have to read between the lines, talk to everyone inside quests (sometimes in a particular order) to see all the underlying plot threads of government corruption and the Black Paper smuggling group.

>>10579653

came out at the right place and right time. PSO1's devs were running on the thrill of making something new

https://we-are-vanadiel.finalfantasyxi.com/post/?id=452
even though this is an FF11 thing, this particular snippet goes on a bit about PSO1's creation and some insight on influence from Diablo

WoW ended up marking both the downfall of the entire MMORPG genre as well as ushered in the era of people mistakenly calling every online RPG an MMO. sad.

>>10576467
>>10577259
Gamecube version is best for single player and split-screen multi. But be warned that if you ever decide to go online, going online with the console versions is possible but dangerous. On Dreamcast, you risk losing your character data. On Gamecube, you risk losing all unequipped items on your character. These versions have very few players playing online anyways. If you think you might want to go online at some point, just play Blue Burst on PC on Ephinea private servers.
>>10577082
The ideal party is 3 casts (robots) and 1 force. But PSO is pretty forgiving overall. Any quest can be completed with any party layout. Play whatever class you want.
>>10577105
I would leave your party, lol.
>>10577114
Take it from a guy who's been playing PSO online off-and-on since day 1, PSO is better now than it's ever been. Cheaters really spoiled the experience on console back in the day. You have no idea how great it was to start over on Blue Burst when it was released and FINALLY get to play a version of PSO with a functioning economy not spammed to hell with duped super-rares handed out like candy on halloween. Ephinea also has more players playing right now than the official servers ever had.
>>10578471
>>10578479
>>10578491
I just used a cheap adapter that allowed me to use an ordinary PC keyboard on my Gamecube.

>>10578424
I love PSO, but sometimes it feels just a smidge too simple for me. I’d like more abilities, but then something like PSP2 feels like too much and I’ve never been able to really get into it. I just can’t be pleased.

>>10578467
>all those hours and hours, late into the night playing split-screen PSO
Damn, dude. And I remember my friend and I listening to so much of the same band during those sessions that even as stellar as the OST is I can’t see the game without immediately thinking of their discography. Or vice versa. At least it’s relatively fitting music.

>>10581948
Play Phantasy Star Zero.

>>10581703
>Ephinea also has more players playing right now than the official servers ever had
Really? What are the numbers on the original servers vs private servers?

>>10581978
I actually had a copy of that and sold it. Something about it didn't grab me. I should try it again, though.

>>10582020
The characters and scenarios are more "anime" than PSU, that's for sure. But the core gameplay loop that made PSO so great is there, just with more variety. I'm actually gonna start replaying it tonight now.

>>10582115
>The characters and scenarios are more "anime"
I'm not too bothered by that. I actually love the Western aesthetic, too. I wish I remembered what turned me off. I'm usually a big proponent of playing games on their original hardware, but I think I wasn't too pleased with playing it on a real DS.
Also, it looks like it's easily worth 2x or 3x what it was when I sold it, so that's kind of gay.

>>10582132
Ya, it was a great and popular game back in the day but 90% of the people who played it pirated it and never bought it, and the people who did buy it wanted to keep it. Just get a modern R4 for $3 and play it on a 3DS, if you don't wanna hack a 3DS. Using the analog slider to move takes getting used to but can be better than a d-pad.

>>10582138
My 3DS is hacked but I hate playing DS games on it. They look terrible scaled and it's awkward to play something with a touch screen when it's letterboxed (thought I don't remember PS0 requiring or even using it much). I'll just emulate it.
Thanks!

>>10581990
NGL I wasn't being entirely honest in that post, I just didn't feel like going into detail. At launch, PSO Version 1 for Dreamcast had the highest player count I'd ever seen. Over 1000 IIRC. But the game having no subscription fee was the reason for it's high player count. Version 2 on Dreamcast bumped the level cap from 100 to 200 and introduced Ultimate difficulty, but it also introduced a monthly fee. PSO on Gamecube had the same monthly fee, and so did Blue Burst later. So, these games had a significantly lower player count. Based on what I can recall, I remember the player counts for GCN and BB being about 80-180-ish most of the time, maybe 200+ when GCN version was still somewhat new. Ephinea seems to have between 100 and 250 players at any given time. Even if my numbers are completely wrong due to my shit memory, what I can tell you for certain is that Ephinea has more players now on average than GCN or BB did. No doubt this is due to Ephinea not charging a fee and being much easier to get online with than any other version, official or not.

>>10581978
I couldn't get into PS Zero for one single reason: you were restricted to only 6 actions on your buttons, period. Out of the dozens you could potentially use. These included very important actions like basic attacks, techniques, and items. It was SEVERELY restricting, and made the game difficult and frustrating to play, especially if you were used to the quick-menus of GCN and the number hotkeys of BB like I was. Utilizing the DS's touch screen for additional actions could have made Zero exponentially better! How Sega overlooked this basic QOL feature is beyond my comprehension.

Are there noobs playing on Ephinea, or will you just party up with players who will steam roll through everything while you just tag along for the ride?

>>10582280
You're definitely more likely to run into fellow newbs on Ephinea than you were on any of the old official servers, but yeah, it will mostly be experienced players. PSO has an amazing community though. Create your character, log in, tell them you're new, and you're very likely to have folks eager to introduce a new player to the game and the community.

>>10577136
Braaaaah

I liked the theme song.

Xenosaga or PSO?

A kid at school had PSO and convinced me it was worth a play. Best price I found for it was ~$10 new on Amazon. This was 2003 so everything was bottoming out on Dreamcast stuff. Had to fight with my mom to order it (blah blah blah I don't want my credit card stolen) and got it, only to discover they sent me Version 2 by mistake. I asked them to do a swap or refund, which would entail paying for return shipping, which dumb kid me did not know how to do, nor could broke kid me afford, and I sure wasn't about to tell my mom they sent me the wrong version, which by extension also meant no online, so I played solo. Also coincidentally was able to grab the strategy guide at a local Babbage's. Ended up being the last winter my parents were together and my dad watched me play PSO and Seaman off and on in our sun room until I had finished both games. You're goddamn right that three-hit combo system kept me occupied. Still have the game, the guide, and the poster that came with the guide, too.

>>10582249
Different anon but I saw your post earlier and decided to give it a go for the first time in like 15 years. It's fucking wild how much more populated the servers are compared to the ones I played in the past maybe it's the same one I dunno but I managed to get a lobby going within minutes and everyone was super welcoming too. In the past I was lucky to get one person to join.

i that mome guy hes a retard

>>10582781
>In the past I was lucky to get one person to join.
what year?

>>10582249
>Version 2 on Dreamcast bumped the level cap from 100 to 200 and introduced Ultimate difficulty, but it also introduced a monthly fee. PSO on Gamecube had the same monthly fee
What the actual fuck? I'd never heard of this before, but apparently its true. Japs and mutts had to pay for a "Hunter's License" to play online. It was completely free here in Europe.

>>10583565
kek

This is why I stop playing PSO

https://youtu.be/sX2T9w0wofM?si=Eo317hdCuu4D6J44

>>10584673
Can't happen in Blue Burst because everything is server side

>>10584673
I didn't even need to watch the video to know what it's about. Yes, this shit was a real problem on Dreamcast, and caused me to quit that version. This is also why, even though it's once again possible to go online on DC, I recommend against it. Gamecube version also has problems like these, though not quite as bad. Like >>10584692 said, just play Blue Burst. It doesn't have these sorts of problems.

>>10582781
I'm glad you started playing again! Welcome to the game. As for being lucky to get one person to join in whatever version you were playing before, it's likely because you probably hadn't made it to the final difficulty yet. On the versions that charged a fee, the vast majority of players would be playing Ultimate difficulty, unless they were starting a new character. Ultimate is where the real game truly begins. Since Ephinea is free, there are alot more casual players, and people who are just curious to try it out for a bit.

>Always know about NOLing but was always careful about who I played with
>Get PSO for the GameCube
>Grind further than I'd ever achieved before in my life
>Get ASH[/spoiled]ed
>My bank is safe, but I lost my main equipment I was wearing/carrying to switch to, my main MAG, everything on me and my character was reset to a level 1 HUmar (I was already a HUmar but now WHAT THE FUCK).
I bought an Action Replay for the GameCube specifically to try to hack my character back to how it was but could never figure out how to get AR codes to work for PSO, so I mostly just ended up using the AR for hacking different Sonic character into different stages in SA2.

>>10582335
Kek, never thought I'd meet someone with the same dillemma. Overall, Xenosaga, everything is so well done there.

>>10582335
Kek, never thought I'd meet someone with the same dillemma. Overall, Xenosaga, everything is so well done there.

>>10579147
PSO had soul because like Diablo that it took inspiration from, and the games like Runescape and Everquest that were out at the same time, all these games were just forging new worlds. They were trying to attempt to try new things, or improve upon something that was still fresh and most people hadn't tried it yet. Everything hadn't become so formulaic yet. And development costs hadn't ballooned to the point where experimentation was a dirty word. PSO just also managed to carve out such a unique, and fresh aesthetic that has yet to ever be copied, or matched. Even PSU and PSO2 are nothing more than soulless zombie clones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asgELTWi2R0&list=PL8A6E4B20E712D2BA&index=6

>>10585315
Runescape is literally just Ultima Online for kids who can't install programs/get their parents to pay for a monthly fee

So is PSO considered an MMO or not?

>>10575809
Its genuinely amazing its any fun at all. On paper it should fucking suck, its slow, extremely repetitive, doesn't have much variety and its entirely a grind with almost no goal. And despite all of that its somehow a ton of fun, addictive and just oozing with pure soul. Something about the environments the music and just grinding away with the fellas keeps me coming back time and time again.

Incredible its still supported by the community too, I played the Dreamcast version all the way through online with a friend 2 years back and there were still a bunch of people actively online and we even got into some hilarious hyjinx with some randoms in a way I hadn't experienced since the early days of online gaming. When you die in the game you drop your equipment and my friend stole this dudes insanely rare and powerful weapon on accident and after the fight we gaslit the guy into thinking we didn't take it and he ran all the way back through the long ass dungeon and then just left the lobby. Later he made a lobby called NO THIEVES and we were crying laughing. We joined and tried to give it back to him since we were just messing around but he was butthurt and "didn't want it back anymore" lmao.

I recently found my network adapter for GameCube and am planning on playing through it all over again especially since Ive never done Episode 2 before. See you guys online.

>>10579287
Honestly from what I've played of a lot of other MMOs just gives me a headache. I look at some of those games with dozens of items and abilities and cooldowns to track and I just immediately go cross eyed.

>>10585315
>PSO2
I actually liked PSO2 rather quite a bit when I was playing it on Xbone, maybe it didn't quite HIT the same way the first game did but that might have been an issue of me being older and less focused on games but I did like hanging out on the hub world and going down to the different planets. New Genesis killed it for me though. I just don't like the hub they have there and a lot of the new teaks kind of bug me. But really I just want my space station hub back. I liked being there, I liked seeing all the warning lights go crazy when a big nasty event boss was attacking the ship. It was alright.

>>10585315
You haunt me, sir. This music sends shivers down my spine as I close my eyes and remember. Remember that one day I got to play Phantasy Star Online, and see, feel, touch, smell everything.

>>10586661
Other anons already picked the really good songs like "Whole New World" and "Can Still See the Light" but I think the P1 EP1 songs are criminally overlooked in these threads. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btkXgWDSH0k&list=PL8A6E4B20E712D2BA&index=30

>>10586224
I never got to try it, I'm sorry to say. I remember the launch trailers and the gameplay trailers when they were initially dropped. I remember waiting patiently to get in on it, but then life happened and now we have New Genesis. I'm convinced that Sega hates either Phantasy Star, or hates the US having Phantasy Star.

>>10586224
Don't want to start a bunch of crap, but didn't a tranny localizer censor the game to hell?

>>10579147
>>10585315
For me, it gave me that 'ache'
it's hard to explain, and I've only felt it distinctively three times when playing a game, and one of those games was PSO
it's where you're playing a game, taking in all the sights and sounds, enjoying it, and then you see THIS and someone is playing THAT and he's got THIS move and you just picked up THAT item and someone told you about a skill you can learn that you desperately want - you're sort of overloaded and want to explore absolutely everything everywhere at once and you've got that feeling in your chest like 'aaaa where should I go, first maybe this way, or that way, screw it lets go over here'
it's an odd feeling, and a very, very rare one for me

>>10587098
All I have is Episode I and I'm still early in it as well. I've only just killed that Drake and now I'm attempting to solo De Rol Le. I thought I had him so many times but he keeps coming at me faster than I can take him down.

>>10587117
Unless they did it in the change to NG I can't think of anything that was changed. People were constantly posting hentai in the chat boxes and making all kinds of lewd characters

>>10587218
The thing is, with PSO and even Diablo, when I make a character I feel like I'm playing that character. A lot of builds and options are more skill/gear based rather than meta based like so many other MMOs. If you're playing FF14 or WoW and not going by the approved rotations you're basically playing wrong. In PSO you're playing right so long as you can stay alive.

>>10587218
I know that feeling. PSO is one of those games that has stuck with me for 21 years. My appreciation for it is old enough to drink now.

>>10587297
I just looked it up, apparently it's a rare case of the actually undoing the censorship that happened when PSO2 was localized and that whole tranny drama happened. If I still didn't have to beat FFXIV, I'd be tempted to switch over to PSO2NG. Maybe I'll do that when I'm caught up. Looks like MS may have learned not to be like Snoy after all.

>>10587310
PSO absolutely has a meta, its just that nothing in the game is demanding enough for people to care about it too much.

PSO is my favorite game of all time, but a lot of people in this thread are praising it for reasons that are just plain inaccurate. A lot of it coming from the angle of "it was my first online game and didn't have all this toxic stuff online games have now." It did, you just were not aware of it back then

>>10587218
I know this feeling this 'Ache'. Its happened to me three times before as well. The first was Phantasy Star Online, just as I had described it. The second was when I booted up World of Warcraft and I heard Elwynn Forest for the very first time. It was magical. The last one was the most pronounced, the one that I believe has had the most effect on me. In 2008, I came across a video on Youtube. It was a huge, half-man half-machine creature speaking down to the player from atop a cliff rock. His voice was metallic, his belly huge, and along his neck was a collar of cannons. The battle was strange, the player fighting in a huge chamber with tall walls and using paint and orbs to destroy this cybernetic creature. By pure chance, that game showed up in my algorithm in 2017 again and I was able to learn what it was. Typгop - The Void. That game left me with an ache I never knew before - a haunting, longing feeling that stays with me even now.

You know what I like about the game? It's fun before endgame. There's high level play but there's not you have to grind out a billion levels before it "the real" game starts.

>>10587332
Are you sure you're spelling it correctly? Literally the only results for Typгop - The Void are /vr/ threads which I assume were posted by you.

>>10587620
That's because there's just "game"
Though one could argue that grinding for rares constitutes the "end game."

>>10578424
They're too busy making money with gacha trash in the sequel.

>>10587620
This used to be how all games were.

>>10575850
>>10576454
same-ish for me
I play pretty much SSF exclusively with 1-2 other people, we don't play with anyone else, the game is way more fun that way.

>>10587647
I put the Russian version, then the translation of the name for the sake of better understanding.

This thread has convinced me to try out this game for the first time this weekend. Hopefully there will be other noobs to play with.

>>10587967
If you didn’t grow up with it then you’ll probably won’t like it desu, but go for it.

>>10587986
I played it split screen once at a friends house back then and thought it was fun, but thats it.

>>10587998
Good, I forgot to mention that GC version is probably the best version. (You probably already knew that)

The items they added in Blue Burst fuck up the balance of the game too much from GC/Xbox, but no one is ready to have that discussion

>>10588057
What did they add that caused such imbalance?

>>10588057
I’ve been saying this for years. Everything was perfect until Ep4 fucked everything up.

>>10587329
>PSO absolutely has a meta, its just that nothing in the game is demanding enough for people to care about it too much.
That's one reason I love it. The community has always been pretty chill, and most of the time people don't care if you're not playing optimally or even messing around a bit with a goofy build. It's a very laid back game for the most part. Playing FFXIV, if I die once or twice on a boss or don't play perfectly, people often get annoyed even if it only wastes an extra minute at most.

>>10588106
Yeah so long as you're not being a complete fucktard you're not gonna get much trouble from anyone regardless of what retarded shit you're running with. Hell seeing people roll out with stupid builds is kind of part of the fun.

>>10588129
You sound kinda stupid. I don’t think PSO is for you.

>>10588129
I agree. There's so many goofy items too, game was meant to be enjoyed however.
>>10588137
I don't think he sounds stupid at all.

>>10575809
The anons already said it all.
I would add that because it did not have voice chat and typing with the software keyboard was a chore, there was limited direct communication with other players. As in, other players could not break the atmosphere of the game.

>>10588080
>>10588093
Actually, I would like to know what items cause balance issues. I'd rather have that discussion and have it devolve into shit rather than not have it at all. Considering how cozy this thread has been I think we can afford that risk.
>>10588129
>Hell seeing people roll out with stupid builds is kind of part of the fun.
Aren't there a bunch of high level items that look like household items? That's the party I want to join. Mops and Sega Saturn Mags for days.

You could get Eggman's gun that he holds to Amy's head in Sonic Adventure 2
And then in Sonic Riders, they use the model from PSO as his gun when he's holding people up again. God I love little crossover details like this, even though Riders wasn't a DreamCast game. Like finding the little PSO item boxes in the space levels of Sonic Adventure 2, and Sonic and Shadow having HUmar outfits.

Do you think they could ever make a game like PSO again, on a smaller budget even? Double-A or even just A-Rated Developer?

>>10589852
even if they could, it wouldn’t have the same effect.

Does anyone wanna meet up online right now?

>>10590474
How?

>>10590483

>>10590493
Ephimeral or whatever?

>>10590549
Sylverant. Idk why everyone on this board goes to the Ephinea server. Are you DC or GC?

>>10590597
It's the most popular one for PC BB.

>>10590597
>Idk why everyone on this board goes to the Ephinea server
Because there is a player base there.

>>10590673
>2

>>10590690
That's from Sylverant. And yup, sounds about right. Most people don't play GC or DC anymore. Blue Burst or bust.

>>10590673
ephinea for comparison

>>10590597
DC, but I've not found a way to hook it up to modern internet. I can't find a broadband modem and the guide I've found on Dreamcast-Talks is a bit confusing, but thats because I'm a moron.

>>10590721
https://dreamcastlive.net/shop/

Check this tutorial, it’s so easy even a caveman can do it.

>>10589852
Something like PSO would have to come from an indie developer or someone like Valve. It would have to run like L4D2 and just match you up with randos. Sad to say.

>>10576504
>a kind of naivety about online games that led to bold and unique choices. These days, online games are just copy paste
Kek.
When they were making PSO2 they copypasted a lot of PSO features that players were nostalgic about.
Then they had to spend 10 years trying to undo or work around them, because those features were actually incompatible with the idea of a MMORPG on a conceptual level.

>>10590929
>a good game is incompatible with a modern game on a conceptual level
Tell me something I don't know.

>>10590929
Neither PSO or PSO2 are MMOs.

All of PSO2's problems early on were because they added unnecessary shit that wasn't needed in PSO (leveling subclasses, skill trees, dozens of quests to collect vendor trash), stuff from PSO that they didn't commit fully to (Mags not tradable, you need to pay to have more than one) or else just plain misunderstanding the philosophy of PSO to begin with (short missions instead of long dungeon crawls, waiting at level cap instead of an absurdly high level cap you work towards over time)

>>10590597
>Idk why everyone on this board goes to the Ephinea server
Because the online population goes above 3 people

On a side note from what >>10590929 said, PSO2 was everything that they couldn’t fit in PSO.

Here’s some PSO concept art & beta shots from what it was supposed to be.

>>10590990

>>10590991
Mags were cut into “armor-like” sections of the body.

>>10591001
Pioneer 2 was twice as bigger in the beta version. Also one developer said the characters had their own apartment in Pioneer 2 to store items instead of going to the bank.

>>10591004
>Pioneer 2 was twice as bigger
>the characters had their own apartment in Pioneer 2 to store items instead of going to the bank
Sounds kino on paper but everything being closer and faster to use is better in reality

>>10590991
>Robot.
>Has a mustache.
God I wish.

>have no problem playing older single player games i never got to play back in the day
>feel a sense of sadness when playing older multiplayer games i never got to play back in the day

>>10591120
They do feel particularly empty.

I've played v2 on PC about 5 years ago with a friend through Sylverant, it was really fun. Probably the only online RPG I actually enjoyed playing. PSO2 didn't really do it for me, and it was even more boring alone.
I guess I could try Blue Burst now, but without the ability to mod funny sounds in it's not quite 100% what I want.

>>10591307
Also the frying pan quest was so worth it.

>>10591240
It's like going back to your old stomping grounds and most of your old friends have all moved away

>tfw AT&T still has records of your Sega/Net surcharges.

>>10591321
Back in the 90s, we used dial-up internet. Same landline as our home phone, so we couldn't browse the internet and make phone calls at the same time. Come the early 2000s, we have two different lines for the house and for internet, but only the one for internet. So I had to pay for my own monthly phone line to play PSO online on the DreamCast, finding out after buying a DreamCast specifically for PSO. Come time they added the Hunter's License, I was paying over $40 a month to play.

>>10591331
I can't remember when ethernet became a common thing, my first memory of it was making ethernet cables in our selective Cisco networking class in 2005 high school.

>>10590702
Why did Europe never care about Sega?

>>10591339
Europe/the UK arguably have Sonic's biggest fans. But also the most dense furry population on the planet.

>>10591339
If you are asking as to why nobody is on Lumireis, thats because its hosted in Frankshit and DCs every 10 minutes
I'm EU and always play on Fodra

>>10590721
I really don't want to discourage anyone from playing online, but I want to let you know that going online in the console versions of PSO is risky, especially on Dreamcast. The odds of you losing your character data to some dickhead with a gameshark is high. If you insist on playing the Dreamcast version, either find some way of backing up your saved data beforehand, or only use a character you don't mind losing. If you think you may eventually want to take PSO seriously at all at some point in the future, just play Blue Burst on Ephinea. It has far more content, more items, better character balance, more reasonanable drop rates, better controls, an actual playerbase, a functioning economy, and countless QOL improvements. Dreamcast version is fine if you just want to check out the game for a few hours to satisfy your curiosity, though.

>>10591120
Take it from someone who's been playing online since day 1, PSO is better now than it's ever been, as long as you play Blue Burst. But, if you insist on playing a console version, then yeah, you missed the boat. You can still go online with them, but they're ghost towns, since everyone's playing Blue Burst.

>>10590702
That's alot of trannies

>>10593043
Where could I play the Ephinea version?

>>10593076
On your PC just Google pso ephinea

>>10578424
Waaaa muh changes

>>10591340
>Most dense furry population on Earth.
Depends on the European country in question in some ways. Poland, France, Sweden, Ukraine, Russia, Denmark(?), Switzerland, Czechia and Slovakia(?). Even so, I don't see why furfags started and formed into existence all because of Sonic and Sega.

>>10581703
>Less than 200 users
>More than real servers ever had
Game had 26000 players logged on at once at peak. You could have Googled before saying something this retarded.

>>10593114
You're right, I wasn't being entirely honest. That peak was hit in the early days of Dreamcast Version 1, before cheaters destroyed the game and it's playerbase. Then Sega charged a monthly fee for Version 2, and every version of the gane that came after that, reducing the player count even further. Much further. The early days of DC Version 1 was the only time the game ever hit such high player numbers, and the only reason that happened is because the game was the new hotness, and had no monthly fee. I left this information out of my post because I didn't feel like explaning all of this at the time. So, allow me to correct myself; Blue Burst on Ephinea has a higher player count than any legit version of PSO aside from Dreamcast version 1, when you could literally burn a CD for the game and play it completely for free.

Here I go. What classes should be avoided?

>>10593367
I would probably not make a Force as your first character, but other than that it doesn't matter too much

>>10593367
>>10577082
Depends on how difficult you want the game to be.

Hunter - Easy
Ranger - Normal
Force - Hard

>>10593380
I never understood why the game designates Hunter as a beginner class and Ranger as an intermediate class. What is easier than standing back shooting things from a distance? Maybe they were worried people who started as Ranger would get too bored of the game?

>>10593375
Androids are a little more difficult for beginners I think. They can't heal themselves with magic meaning they have to be more shrewd with their stock of healing items, and effective usage of traps is a little more difficult to grasp than magic.

>>10593384
dude, I’ve been asking myself that for years but then again the stats on each class says it all.

>>10591004
please tell me you have more beta shots of what Pioneer 2 used to look like.

>>10593367
This is not WoW or FFXIV. Pick whatever class you think looks cool. However, >>10593375 is correct, I would avoid FOrces until you know what you're doing, and have some items already collected to give your FOrce a good start.

>>10593380
>>10593384
RAnger is easiest, HUnter is intermediate, FOrce is hardest. The game describes HU as easiest, but it's wrong.

>>10593389
This is also true. Casts (androids) are a bit harder to use than fleshy races, but are the best race to use in multiplayer if you're not playing a FO. Like I said here >>10581703 , the ideal multiplayer party is 3 casts (any combination of HUnters and RAngers) and 1 FOrce. Fleshy races are better for soloing though, due to being able to heal and buff themselves with techniques (magic), albeit weaker techniques than what FOrces have access to. This is not a game for hardcore minmaxers though. Don't feel pressured to play a cast. RAmar and RAmarl are the easiest classes to play, and do just fine despite not being the "best" choices. The true ideal party is exactly 1 FOrce and any combination of 3 non-FOrce classes.
Playing as a big titty elf is a more than good enough reason to play HUnewearl. Fun fact: Rouge the Bat's sexy alternate costume in Sonic Adventure 2 comes from PSO's HUnewearl, if you're into that kind of thing.

>>10593441
>the game is wrong

>>10593441
>>10593384
From what I remember, Hunter has some really good early growths.

>>10593473
Yes? What makes you think that the game's description of it's character classes can't be wrong? When starting a new version of PSO, I always start off playing a ranger specifically because they're easy to play. Just stand back and shoot.

>>10593367
Hunter Casts, they're hard mode. Especially the female one since she's less durable and only "makes up" for it by having higher evasion but not enough to save you consistently All you get is some largely useless or janky traps, no buffs/debuffs or self-heal outside items. Not as good as the techs the other races of hunters get.

>>10575809
I wish this game would have been ported to the Vita, I think it would have been perfect for it.

I had a lot of fun playing the Dreamcast version decades ago on schtack's server, but most of the time I played in singleplayer. The game has a really amazing atmosphere that feels very zen at times.

I would like to point out that the male and female classes have different attack animations that may change your opinion on the effectiveness of some weapons based on which gender is using it.

>>10593804
Enemies with projectiles have a higher hit rate on rangers than with hunters. One the first things I’ve noticed when I switch over to Hunters. The developers aren’t gonna classify these classes like that for no reason.

Also the attack combo system works exactly like it does in Chrono Cross; each successive hit is more accurate than the one that proceeded it.
Most Accurate: Regular attack.
Less Accurate: Powerful attack.
Least Accurate: Special attack.

You trigger the next hit in the combo by pressing a button right before the end of your current attack's animation.

Have fun, newhunterfriends.

>>10579692
>https://we-are-vanadiel.finalfantasyxi.com/post/?id=452
Thanks for this. Absolute kino about my two favorite games.

>>10593384
Game balance actually inverts on the last difficulty. Close combat becomes suicidal when enemies close in too fast and there is no grace period after getting hit and the way damage formulas work weapons take too many hits to kill anything. Technique damage doesn't suffer as much and you don't even have to grind force weapons.

Fun fact, icon and models of Sange and Yasha actually depict Kamui and Yasha. This had persisted through every game until they fixed it in PSO2.

>>10595301
Which is actually a change made to the GC/Xbox/BB versions. On Dreamcast Ver.2 Forces were virtually worthless on Ultimate because enemies had such high magic resistance.

Gaming right now

>>10595462
BB?

Got my old v2 PC installation working and holy crap... I forgot just how badly this game runs on period hardware. It's even worse if you have an early 3dfx card, since parts of the game use 512x512 and 1024x1024 textures, which are too big and lead to a crash.

>>10593380
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIPsR20Du6c
Aaaaaah... Takes me back

>>10595470
Congrats. I have half a mind to dust off my old account and join you. I could hook you up with tons of shit.

>>10586208

yea, PSO fucking sucks but it's good.

The game just has aesthetics and vibes that are still unmatched to this day. That really carries through being such a slow, janky, ultra-repetitive mess. Just the way that game handles targeting is some kind of eldritch magic.

Does anyone know how to get the Burning Rangers theme song to start playing in Pioneer 2?

>>10596106
If it's Ephinea they can drop
https://wiki.pioneer2.net/w/Disk_Vol.3_%22Burning_Rangers%22
Otherwise Gallon's Shop
https://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=776&sortby=name

>>10596106
>>10596132
The item is called Disk Vol.3, use it and it'll play the song

>Disks are consumable
>Grind my ass off to have dozens of copies of Disk 6
>Would play one every time during Dark Falz to piss off my one friend

>>10596153
Your one friend sounds like a fag
Who doesn’t like the alternate theme songs during a TTF session.

>>10596153
I somehow got a bunch of Nights Disks on Schthack years ago. Kept going into random rooms, dropping 1 meseta everywhere, and playing the Nights music while dancing.

This one dude in a mag feeding room got really pissed, so I kept coming back with alts and doing it. Then I made an alt with super generic name (Kate), joined the room. He was going on about "Kate, really?" knowing it was obviously me, but I denied it and talked to him for a while until he believed I was innocent.

Then, waiting after gaining his trust, I played it again and started dancing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8-otnxm4-o

Still remember the "OH GOD DAMMIT" from him after that. I miss fucking around in PSO.

>>10593829
HUcast and HUcaseal are probably the most difficult of the non-FO classes to use, but they're very rewarding, especially HUcast. WIth high-level Shifta from a FOrce or a photon blast chain, they hit like a truck. Traps can also be very useful when used at the right time. There's a reason you always see casts use freeze traps on specific spawns in TTF runs.

>>10593865
It's not just projectiles. RAngers do have lower defense and evade than HUnters on average, but I don't think this small downside outweighs them not needing to get up close to the enemy, and being able to continually pound the enemy with uninterrupted attacks due to not needing to dodge as often as HUnters. The differences in defensive stats are also more pronounced at lower levels, and are actually less noticeable at Lv 120+. Granted, this is all somewhat subjective. In my 1000+ hours of play, I have personally found RAngers easier to use than HUnters, but your experience may differ.

> The developers aren’t gonna classify these classes like that for no reason.
Lol. Lmao even. This is Sega we're talking about. They absolutely do get shit like this wrong. The class descriptions also claim that FOrces are the highest damage dealers, which is laughably wrong once you hit Ultimate difficulty. Sega probably INTENDED for HUs to be the easiest to use, and for FOs to be the highest damage dealers, but that's not how it worked out. There's speculation that, due to the unusual way that technique damage is calculated, enemies in Ultimate difficulty ended up with higher technique resistance than what Sega intended.

>>10596106
>>10596153
>>10596170
>>10596192
For well over a decade now, I'd replace the music for whatever boss we're fighting with the Burning Rangers theme. It's amazing. Coincidentally, I recently got a Saturn and a CD burner, so I guess it's about time I actually played Burning Rangers for real.

Can Ephinea work on Windows 7?

>>10596303
top kek

>>10596305
I'm being serious. I run Win7 on my Desktop and with Steam more or less killing my capacity to play games, I only have MWO, Minecraft, SS13, and... Morrowind.

On Dreamcast a friend and I played a game where we made female characters and pretended to be grils who needed help from a big stong man and tried to see who could get the best loot from simps. Shortstack big titty elf always wins.

>>10596350

>>10596350
based

>>10596350
PSO is a game where you get your inventory filled with so many shitty rares that are good for low level players. So I always gave tons of item away to low level people. Sometimes I worried that I'd be seen as a simp giving them to girl characters, despite handing them out to everyone. It's weird how people still treated girl characters like they were girls sometimes, considering that with PSO the different classes are locked to genders so there's gameplay reasons to play as the opposite sex. Should've been obvious the vast majority were guys.

>>10596387
>high level chad enters low level game
>drops big stack of red boxes
>says nothing
>leaves
I'll never forget

>>10596410
That's the beautiful part of it. Leaves an impact on you when you're on the receiving end, especially the first time it happens.

pso has a lovely soundtrack. i remember when someone first came into a lobby, dropped hacked items which brought your some stats to like 32k and i realized gameshark would work on it too. i had the keyboard too, good times.

>>10596469
I had a 60hit Tsumikiri J-Sword someone dropped for me. It didn't feel like cheating if someone else gave it to you! I ended up giving it to my IRL friend when I started playing Forces instead

>>10596518
there was dropping normal powerful items on people and then there was straight hacked stuff. some lobbies i later went into were just filled with so many dropped hacked items that no one even cared to pick them up, they already had them all.
i also remember sega trying to crack down at some point and they'd delete your character from your mem card, so you had to copy it to another card as a backup as you hacked it offline
https://youtu.be/XcLXOMNIsqE

>>10596534
oops wrong video https://youtu.be/l1mtXl-uwkQ

>1x Guard Wave off Pal Rappy
>2x Holy Rays off De Rol Lee
>1x Parts of Baranz
yesterday was a good run

>>10596910
that’s too good to be true, you’re fuckin’ lying.

The problem with every online game since PSO, besides World of Warcraft during its first few years, is that gameplay-wise the only thing to do is grind, but the majority of people used it for its social aspects more than anything and played the game while socializing. It was great.

But now everybody plays every online game, no matter the genre whether it's an RPG or FPS, where they only focus on grinding their daily chores and trying to always have the most elite gear available. The only socializing comes from planning raids/tactics at end game/meta game shit.

>>10596917
NUH UH, ITS ALL TRUE
No Hit on Holy Rays though, but at least the Guard Wave was high-rolled.
I think 43/50 & 14/20 ? Dropped for friend not me.

I forgot just how cruel online mode is on Sylverant for new character builds. Friend and I just got rekt.

>>10597151
I'm now hearing and picturing someone getting slapped so hard by a gigobooma that they flip into the air before they land on their back.

>>10597224
lol that critical hit by the enemy always made me laugh growing up.

>>10593178
You can still play it for free...

>>10597224
Now imagine every arena's every wave having several gigoboomas running at a thousand kilometers an hour fighting a Lv2 and Lv3 HUnewearl.

>>10596303
>>10596317
Yes

>>10596387
>Classes locked to genders
The fuck are you talking about? There are HU, RA and FO.

>>10597445
>km
Kill yourself.

I wish the 4th game gave us the missing class combos
Male Newman Hunter
Female Newman Ranger

>>10597519
Don’t you think that’ll be pushing it?

>>10597562
Pushing what?
It would simply fill in the visual niches missing
Also, Female Human Hunter

>>10597606
sounds like a personal fetish to me, anon.

>>10597490
Go back to Liberia or Myanmar.

>>10597637
Fetish for having more options?
This is a weird take

>>10577082
For solo, RAmar

>>10577265
It definitely had the vibe and felt much bigger and alive than it actually was

>>10587967
You won't like it, it's just a shitty diablo clone. Disgustingly slow pace, combat that will put you to sleep, and insanely boring quests.

>>10597606
This looks like a male Kingdom Hearts character with lipstick.
Or a thin HUmar with lipstick.

>>10597832
I see lanky adult Kairi

>>10597485
What's hard to understand? I mean is you can't just play as a female HUmar, and HUmar is different than the other HUs. Yeah the main classes are HU, RA, and FO, but the specific class of character is a set race and gender. FOmar and FOmarl for example aren't just different genders, they have different stats, so you might choose FOmarl over FOmar purely for gameplay reasons.

It's not like many MMOs where gender and even race are purely cosmetic choices.

>>10597856
What the fuck, that's not only not the image I uploaded, but how the fuck did it let the exact same image be posted twice? I've seen thumbnails repeat/be wrong before, but this is literally the same picture twice.

>>10597858
No, because a "female HUmar" literally does not exist unless you're doing the whole perverted, "I'm a succubus(male)!" shit, in which case fuck off. The "mar" in "FOmar" "RAmar" and "HUmar" literally means, "human male". You are asking for a female human male hunter. What you actually want is a HUmarl.

>>10597863
Bro, I'm just explaining how the game works. You can't play as a female human hunter in PSO. Even when a race and class combo has both sexes available, they have different stats. FOmarl is considered better than FOmar by most people, so you might pick it for reasons other than "I want a female character."

>>10597868
I would argue FOmar is the worst option in all of PSO history.

HUmarl would've been fun though, could've made Alys from Phantasy Star IV. HUmarl with slicers.

>>10597873
Yeah FOmar blows sadly

>>10597873
>>10597882
what did you expect from a guy in a dress?

>>10597894
More than I got, that's for damn sure. They should have made him look like a magician, but not a circus jester like FOnewms.

>Pick FOmar
>Don't want to waste my fluids
>Just equip Soul Eater and play it like the squishiest HUmar ever.

Good times

>>10588639
>Aren't there a bunch of high level items that look like household items?
Hacked OP items

>>10597898
kek, he’s a medieval disco pimp.

>>10597894
I wanted Zio

>>10597894
The concept art was 10/10
This did not translate well to the game unfortunately

>>10597973
Holy shit, that’s actually pretty cool. wtf, how did we end up with this fag >>10597894

>>10596958
This is because social media is so prevalent and the novelty and joy of talking to other people online in a game is long since dead and gone

>>10593380
>>10597894
>>10597873
>>10597882
>mar?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn5P224Rou8

>>10597969
Faggot

>>10598020

>>10598034
That's not what she said 'bout my Dark Phallus, bitch

>>10587332
>>10587703
>>10587647
The Void, by Ice Pick Lodge. It's on steam.

>>10596317
>MWO
Free yourself from this shit game. I say this as a $120 legendary founder.

>>10597485
>diff base and final stats for diff genders

>>10575809
It really was, same with psu. I know everyone prefers pso but psu really did something to me. I sadly really dislike pso2.

>>10597868
>>10597873
>>10597882
>>10597898
>>10597924
What are you guys on about? Melee FOmar is one of the most popular FO builds in high-level play. The fact that damage cancel exists, combined with enemies having high technique resistance in Ultimate difficulty, makes spamming attack techniques a bad idea. So it actually makes sense for a FO player to melee instead, and with the highest ATP of all FO's, FOmar is basically meant to be a battlemage.

PSO is a janky game. It does not follow the usual RPG meta of tank-dps-healer. FOs are not the glass-cannons that mages often are in other RPGs, even if that's what Sega originally intended. In fact, in Ultimate difficulty, FOs will typically be doing less damage on average than the HUs and RAs. Their value mostly lies in support. Their level 30 support techniques can GREATLY boost the attack power of their teammates, making quests much faster and easier than they would be without a FO in the party. Any damage done by the FO themselves is basically just a bonus. So, even though a FOmar's melee attacks will be weaker than that of a HU, they can still do respectable damage (buffed by their own level 30 Shifta of course), and by using melee for damage instead of spamming attack techniques, they avoid the risk of damage-cancelling high-damage HU attacks with their low-damage AoE techniques. Damage cancel is a real bitch, and needs to be taken into consideration with any FO build.

On top of all of this, FOmar can still use level 30 attack techniques like any other FO for the situations where a specific attack technique is useful. Also, like the other new classes added to Ep1&2, FOmars have some unique attack animations. His unique melee animations are generally better than those of other FOs, which makes sense considering his role. He holds katanas like Sephiroth, which is kinda neat. And he can actually look pretty cool if you choose a nice color scheme for his robes, and avoid choosing one of the dumber-looking hats.

The major downside to a melee FOmar build is his low ATA. You can counteract this by acuiring weapons with high Hit. That makes melee FOmar a build for serious players, who are willing to put the time in to acquire high-Hit weapons.

TLDR: FOmar is good actually.
Sometimes I'm convinced that I'm the only one posting in PSO threads who has ever gotten a character past Lv 80.

>>10598610
>Melee FOmar is one of the most popular FO builds in high-level play.
Okay schizo, you need to appreciate that you weren't the average player and not everyone obsessively scoured the meta end game through PSO-World. Even within the PSO community, rarely anyone cared about that shit. People just used what they liked.

>>10598610
By your second paragraph you're no longer being objective and are straight up just reminiscing about your personal experiences as if they were universal in anyway. Especially with your whole speel about a friend/rando making a Sephiroth, holy fucking shit my guy.

>>10598640
It's not a 4chan PSO thread without a random schizo showing up to ruin the party.

>>10598610
>>10598616
To be honest, I posted FOmar blows kinda baiting for this type of response. I wanted someone to make the argument for FOmar being good, because I've heard it before but didn't know the details.
>Sometimes I'm convinced that I'm the only one posting in PSO threads who has ever gotten a character past Lv 80.
Despite replaying since it came out, I always give up around level 150-160 at most.

>>10598634
nta but, chill. Most PSO players knows what he says to be true. Even in his description, they mention that FOmar has the highest STR.

>>10598610
Thanks for the info. So FOmar struggles more than FOmarl early on, but becomes better at high levels with great gear? What are the accepted tiers for classes now? All I know is HUcast is high.

>>10598750
Tiers and min/maxxing are great and all if you're into that kinda thing, but true high-level play in PSO is all about the swag.

Just design cool characters and outfit them with matching gear, even if it's not, like, the "the best" or whatever.

I’ve only played the DC version my entire life so idk wtf FOmar is.

>>10598780
Yes you fucking do, because the first time you even came across the word was a fucking explanation on exactly what a FOmar (and FOmarl) even is.

It can't be THAT bad

>>10599053
This would have been comfy as fuck to play online. Shame I never did.

>>10598868
kek, calm down anon, geez.

>>10599053
I love this game, my only criticisms are that the speed of play is way slower than it needs to be (which maybe has to do with hardware restrictions) and the fact that you have to grind an absurd amount of matches to raise to level enough to unlock the full drop pool. Online it wasn't so bad but offline you're looking at doing the same story mission on loop 10+ times.

Also because card collection is tied to characters and requires grinding, it's impossible to try and show this game to my friends unless we want to use nothing but the starter decks.

In terms of story, it's actually quite a throwback to Phantasy Star 4 with the same manga style cutscenes and dramatic plot twists. It takes place 20 years after Episode 2, so it's cool to see how that world evolved after they defeated Falz

>>10599053
Bro, I’ve been playing PSO for 20yrs and trust me, it’s THAT bad. Idk wtf SonicTeam was thinking.

>>10599053
I remember having fun until I tried to play the Dark Story side, holy fuck is the game completely one-sided for Heroes against Darks. Dark team can almost exclusively only use mob cards while Heroes get to use all sorts of characters, weapons, items, etc. It isn't anything like Kingdom Hearts: CHain of Memories where Rikku's unique deck makes for an interesting challenge... team Dark in PSO epIII just fucking sucks.

>>10575809
Came out while the internet was still in its adolescence. IIRC WoW hadn't released yet so it was THE MMORPG for consoles. It also had a cool sci-fi aesthetic before the genre started being done to death by stuff like .//HACK. And finally, split screen multiplayer meant your buddies could level up and grind with you without having to lug their PC over for a LAN party.

>>10599053
I remember fapping to those massive titties as a kid.

>>10577259
>offline
Tethealla Blue Burst on a localhost

>>10578424
I am more of a OG Phantasy Star fan, so Online has never been nostalgic for me. However I did get that nostalgic kick out of Episode 4 of Online 2 where they reimagined PS2 Mother Brain plotline, complete with a remixed Death Place
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GJFeK8_kxc

>>10588639
>>10588080
I am going through the list of items right now. Armor and shields do not actually top the strongest armor from v2, but it's not like defence stats do anything anyway. On the bright side there are a lot of shields with cool models. Every weapon category got at least one weapon stronger than the previous stronger weapon. According to my understanding of damage formulas, they are going to do, on average, 20 more damage per hit, which is not much. On the unit side there are units that increase stats by five more points that older units. The standout is Smartlink that removes accuracy penalty for shooting with a non-Ranger class. There are also QoL changes, like quests where you have easier time geting some rares from earlier versions and a wandering tekker that sells almost all of them, the caveat being that it's a 1 in 25 chance to win a real rare rare for whole 100000 meseta.
Bottom line: don't tell that anon that there are games these days that update every few months and add new tiers of gear, it would melt his brain.

>>10599053
I would be great with an in-game "speed-up the slow-ass NPC's turn" button. Using Dolphin's speed-up feature sucks because it ruins the soundtrack.

>>10595343
I wonder if my RAcast can use those. I know the RAmar can.

>>10599658
I assume he was talking about some items being straight-up upgrades to classic EP1&2 stuff or new units/armors giving set buffs and improving very specific loadouts in order to make EP4's enemies less of a pain in the ass to deal with. It's easy to get attached to stuff in PSO since your playstyle is based on your loadout.
Personally I don't mind Red Saber being a bit more relevant for a while (thanks to armor buffs) even if Excalibur invalidates the whole saber category or hunter-exclusive armor having built-in attack speed units and telling me to throw battle units in the garbage bin. For me EP4 was ass because subterranean desert was shit and government quests sucked (the port to PC wasn't perfect graphics-wise either but same can be said about every port/remaster/etc. I guess). I still appreciate PSOBB for being so easy to mod thanks to the community (both graphics and enemy/item data).
>don't tell that anon that there are games these days that update every few months and add new tiers of gear
Honestly I appreciate that PSO is a "complete package" rather than a corporate rat race simulator. Items in PSO don't just suddenly lose value and that adds a bit of extra flavor to their uniqueness. I would tell you to ask PSO2NGS' players how they are enjoying their bi-annual gear grind but I assume at this point all of them gave up on it thanks to the pre-built welfare sets they get in every event.

Modern grindfest-as-a-service titles are too much about the "next new thing" (and every now and then an option to turn the "previous old thing" into a cosmetic). I wish more games had mechanics like PSP2i's Extend feature, or tried to keep old weapons relevant with various systems like Warframe (even if half of them ends up with being huge grind with a shiny "pay2skip" button next to them).

>>10599053
Just the opposite: it's very good! Since when are people saying it's bad (and why)?

>>10599743
>ask PSO2NGS' players how they are enjoying their bi-annual gear grind but I assume at this point all of them gave up on it thanks to the pre-built welfare sets they get in every event
Wellfare gear is okay, I am more frustrated that there is nothing to do in the game other that running the same quest over and over.
Implying people didn't run Towards the Future over and over.

>>10599763
There are people who will "optimize" the fun out of anything, but personally I only did TTF a couple of times and just did normal runs the rest even if it was slower

There is no rush to the "end" in PSO, every step is enjoyable and starting fresh characters is even more fun than endgame shit imo. That's why I love Challenge Mode, though finding 4 people to run it with has always been a pain

>>10598634
>>10598640
>>10598687
> After playing this long-term online RPG for all of 20 hours I've determined that FOmar sucks!

"If you put the time in, he's actually quite good, here's why:"

> NoOoO WhY wOuLd YoU bRiNg Up LoNg TeRm PlAy FoR a 20-yEaR oLd OnLiNe RPG y.. y.. yOu AuTiSt! HoW d.. d.. dArE yOu TeLl Me I'm WrOnG!!

Don't spout your dumbassed opinions like they're indisputable facts when you've put no time into the game and have no idea wtf you're talking about. It's an online RPG for fuck's sake, they're meant to be played for a long period of time. If you just want to check out PSO for a few hours before moving on to another game, that's perfectly fine, but that doesn't give you the right to spout incorrect nonsense based on your meagre 20 hours of easiest-difficulty gameplay like it's fact and not be called out on it. Instead of saying "this class is shit", say "this class seems shit from what I've played so far".

BTW when I mentioned Sephiroth, I wasn't talking about another player, I was talking about FOmar's completely-unique-to-him attack animation when equipped a katana. Learn to read.

>>10599802
>when I mentioned Sephiroth, I wasn't talking about another player, I was talking about FOmar's completely-unique-to-him attack animation when equipped a katana
Yeah I caught that too, fucking speedreaders

>>10599802
Pic related: it's you?

>>10598640
Worthless post
This guy plays HUmar and is gay

>>10597863
You're too autistic to live if you can't understand clearly what the other anon was explaining

>>10598634
> you need to appreciate that you weren't the average player and not everyone obsessively scoured the meta end game through PSO-World. Even within the PSO community, rarely anyone cared about that shit.

You're wrong about this too. The official servers charged a monthly fee. This meant that it was very rare for the official servers to get new players. You're right when you say that I wasn't the average player; I was an outright casual compared to most other players on the server. Almost every game being played was on Ultimate difficulty, and the few that weren't were long-time players starting new characters. Again, you don't know wtf you're talking about.

I started over on Ephinea recently, and I must say, it's very refreshing to play PSO with such a large playerbase, with players ranging from complete newbs to grizzled veterans. I have been having an absolute blast introducing the game to new players and helping them out, as this was something I almost never got to do on official servers. It's so much more satisfying to help out new players than it is to do the 12th TTF run of the night, and the gratitude that these new players give me is far more gratifying reward than the EXP I could have grinded out with that time instead. I always make sure to get them off to a good start with their first mag, and get them into the habit of feeding it constantly.

It was also alot of fun being a lowbie and having high-level players join my game, introduce themselves, and offer to introduce me to the game, thinking that I'm new. "Thanks for the offer fren, but I'm actually familiar with the game. I'm just getting myself established on a new server. Can't wait to get to Ult and start hunting for my old gear again!" Next thing I know, I'm a Lv 18 having in-depth discussions about late-game gear with a group of Lv 180+'s, before they help me powerlevel my way from Normal to Vhard in one night. Good times. This is such an easy game to make friends in.

>>10599802
NTA and meta memes aren't my area of expertise but
>I was talking about FOmar's completely-unique-to-him attack animation when equipped a katana
You mean this? FOmar uses male hunter's melee animations, at least in PSOBB. I'm fairly sure this also applies to EP1&2 and EP3 (Break uses this animation too) but I can't test it. I agree it's neat (I enjoy fucking around with him every now and then), but it's not FOmarl's "2000's girl power set" kind of neat.
But FOmar have unique animations for other weapons (like fist weapons), just like the other EP2's classes and FOmarl with her "2000's girl power" set.

>>10599802
>>10599870
Imagine being such an elitest asshat towards fellow PSO players.

>>10599878
There's gatekeeping, and then you have straight up barricading.

>>10599874
Also, taking these screenshots made me realize my HUmar is a manlet with clown shoes. RIP.

>>10588057
>>10588093
>Go to EP2
>Get best in slot shield for 300 dogshit points out of a minigame
>Invalidate literally all other shields
Yeah man, EP4 man

>>10599874
Hmm, looks like I was wrong about it being a unique attack animation for FOmar. I guess seeing Break using his katana put that idea into my head. It's been a very long time between the last time I played on SCHThack, and starting over on Ephinea, so my memory is a bit fuzzy.

>>10599878
>>10599880
> FOmar sucks!
"You're wrong."
> STOP GATEKEEPING!!
You guys are ridiculous.

>>10599917
What's the actual worst class in the game? HUmar? RAmar maybe? I can't imagine it's any Force, buffs and debuffs are too good. People always want a Force on the team. I guess best classes change too depending on solo vs. team play. It's a game where you can get away doing fine with any class, so it doesn't matter all that much I guess in the end. Just interesting.

What's the best resource/community for PSO these days? I haven't played since SCHThack in the mid 2010s. Might start a new character on Ephinea, this thread has me in the mood to play again. Maybe I'll actually get to 200 this time.

Have you guys ever drawn any PSO Art?

no love for the Xbox installment?

>>10599998
Nah. I pretty much gave up on drawing after grade school, so the last game I drew art of was Donkey Kong Country. I kinda wish I kept drawing.

>>10600000
I somehow had both this and the Gamecube version. Never played the Xbox one though because I spent all my time on Gamecube. The Xbox one had voice chat though which was neat.

>>10600000
Checked.

>>10600000
Checked. Those digits give me the same feeling as seeing a red box.

>>10600000
Fantastic get my friend, for both digits and the game.
>>10600007
Do you have a screenshot of your character then, for me to draw?

>>10600000
Damn nigga

>>10600027
Don't have a screenshot anymore, but he was a HUmar with the white outfit and an afro named Disco Stu.

>>10599960
It's hard to say. It depends on alot of variables. Like, RAmar is indeed not the ideal choice for team play, but him and RAmarl are probably the two best choices for soloing. And you certainly wouldn't be holding a party back by playing as them. HUcaseal and RAcaseal are a bit redundant, as they're basically slightly worse than their male counterparts while filling the same niche, but again, that doesn't make them bad or not worth playing. FOnewm is probably the worst choice for FO, seeing as he specializes in attack techniques in a game where attack techniques are effectively neutered. But I could be wrong; it's entirely possible that there's a good build for him that I'm simply not aware of. Any competent FO player is welcome in pretty much any party regardless of which FO they play. They all have level 30 shifta, deband, jellen, and zalure after all.

The thing about FOs is, you want exactly one FO in your party. No more, no less. Every FO in the party after the first is somewhat redundant. It's one of the big reasons why I personally don't main FO. It feels great to be the one FO in the party, until a 2nd FO shows up. Of course though, even a party with multiple FOs can do just fine. This game really isn't hardcore enough to warrant worrying about the ideal party setup. Play whatever class you like, and join whatever party you like. What classes are you considering?

>>10600041
>What classes are you considering?
I always used to play Hunter, never got far with Ranger or Force so considering one of those this time. Maybe RAmarl or RAcast if Ranger, FOmar or FOnewarl if Force. Something new.

>>10600037
>Disco Stu in PSO.

>>10600000
An Xbox-owning friend of mine got this after I showed him the Gamecube version. He even went online with it for a while. I got to try it for a couple of hours at his place. From what little I've played, it seems to be the exact same game as the Gamecube version, but with voice chat. Seems pretty damned cool to me, I just can't say much about it since I've barely played it. IIRC it had the same split-screen offline multiplayer as GCN, and for me, split-screen multi is the best reason to play the console versions.

>>10600069
I wish I got to play split-screen more. Tried it a couple times at a friend's house when the GC version was new and loved it.

>>10600050
Those are all solid choices. I went with RAmarl myself as my main this time around, knowing full well that she's not as ideal for teamplay as RAcast, but her level 20 support techniques combined with ranged attacks makes her independent and versatile. Those Lv. 20 support techniques makes her an okay faux-FO if your party is lacking one, similar to HUnewearl. I generally don't recommend starting out with a FO as your first character on a new server, but if you're up for the challenge, go for it. I like to already have some high-level technique disks saved up for my new FO, and a MIND mag to use them with, but it's absolutely not necessary. You're likely to get gifted some good tecnnique disks from other players anyways. Both FO classes you mentioned are excellent choices.

>>10600041
>>10600112
RAmarl it is then. I like playing solo at least half the time, so she makes the most sense.

>>10600112
I forgot to mention, even as a RAmarl someone was kind enough to gift me a bunch of level 20 technique disks and allowed me to borrow their MIND mag so that I could use those disks. As a new player starting out as a FO, you are likely to get the same treatment if you are friendly with people.

>>10600152
That would be nice, hunting for technique disks was always kind of a pain for me. Excited to start playing again. Can't today but I'll probably get into it sometime in the next week or so.

>>10600146
>>10600172
Good stuff anon, have fun! I've used RAmar alot before, and she's quite similar, but it's been nice to play a human ranger whose idle animation when holding a rifle doesn't look pants-on-head retarded.

>>10575809
Bros... I can't get enough of female CASTs. This series MADE me start liking robot girls. Their usual "more machine than human" appearance is just right. CASTs are the most fascinating aspect of the series to me in general. Are there other games with girls like this, retro or not? I remembered Medabots now.

>>10600198
There's Virtual On, also from Sega

>>10600205
Damn dude, I’ve always wanted the Fei-Yen & RAcaseal model kits side by side next to my Dreamcast.

>>10599998
I did, back in the PSOworld days
This was probably over 15 years ago

>>10600259
>>10599998
I bet my entire Dreamcast that these are the samefag

>>10600268
nah.

>>10600268
Keeb your Dreamcast though. I dont want to debrive anyone of theirs.

>>10600268
Gimme that Dreamcast

>>10600259
Nice.

>>10600259
Cool shit anon! The item boxes clipping through each other made me kek, nice detail.

>>10600000
It's the same as the GameCube version except it has worse water effects (which interestingly carry into PSOBB as it's based off the Xbox version) and you can't play offline split screen.

>>10600198
Small pet peeve of mine, but even though CAST is in the class names, the name CAST is not used in-universe until Phantasy Star Universe. In PSO the robots are excusively called Androids in episodes 1, 2, and 4, and in Episode 3 they are called Humanoids after obtaining more civil rights.

>>10600000
>$8.99
that’s so fuckin’ disrespectful

>>10600000
That couldn't be played offline, right? You HAD to have a Hunter's License to play at all, and now since the servers are gone it's useless.

>>10600410
>>10600492
Oh shit! I was just wondering why we always played split-screen on Gamecube, and never on Xbox at my Xbox-owning friend's house. This would be why. This is good to know. I will now stop recommending the Xbox version as a good alternative to the Gamecube version.

>>10600508
why tf would you recommend it in the first place? Xbox fuckin’ sucks. I only owned one specifically for JSRF & Morrowind and that barely “shivered me timbers”

>>10600518
>He missed all the cool xbox exclusives and wrote it off
Many such cases

>>10600508
PSO on Xbox doesn't need online to play, it just needs an Xbox live account saved to the hard drive. There's a program that can create an "Xbox live account" onto a USB stick and then you can use a special connector ($5 on Amazon) to transfer it to your system. Sounds like a pain in the ass but only takes 5 minutes to do. I think the only thing is that you have to use a certain kind of USB stick (or a PSP, apparently) that the Xbox can recognize. Thankfully I had an old one from college that did it for me but most people recommend just picking up a cheapo one that you see for sale in dollar general or some other discount store.

>>10600587
The only reason to play console versions in any case is either split screen, which Xbox can't do, or because you have save data you're attached to and refuse to start over

>>10579537
I, too, have imagined myself living in Gurhal many times. Imagine all the CAST and Newman pussy.

>>10599917
FOmar is the worst option. Being the worst when everyone's good doesn't mean "you suck". Stop overreacting like an impotent, fatherless child throwing a tantrum because he heard the word, "no". FOmar is the second least popular FO out of four fucking available forces. Nobody cares if you like playing as one, just stop acting like somebody mortally wounded you when the only thing hurt is your ego.

>>10599960
A HUmar can heal himself, a RAmar cannot. Also most Rangers are fucking boring how easy and far removed from combat they usually are.

>>10600608
Xbox does have split screen

>>10600649
All I did was disagree and explain my case. You're the one throwing a tantrum and calling me names instead of making any sort of counter argument. If you don't like FOmar, that's fine, don't play FOmar.

>>10600659
RAmar can heal himself too. All non-casts have access to Resta.
Captcha: PTSD

>>10600649
Jesus Christ. Calm the fuck down, dude.

>>10600680
>All I did was disagree and explain my case
Two thirds of your recent posts are crying wojacks, strawmen arguments, and basically piss-shitting yourself. Seriously my dude. You were fine until posts like >>10599802 and >>10599917 where you full-blown throw a tantrum. You're not the authority on PSO and we're literally all, "PSO anon" in this thread so you can drop the pretentious namefagging.

>>10600680
>>10600690
Okay, so I just posted >>10600708

I take it all back. You're actually, demonstrably a schizophrenic fucktard with this samefaggotry and you can fuck off forever. I feel gross giving you the benefit of the doubt at all, now.

>>10575809
Anons I want to play the offline campaign but I heard there are content that are softlocked in the multiplayer, is that true? I can't finish the game in offline mode?

>>10600680
>>10600690
Oof. This is why I only participate in /vg/ PSO runs. Faggots like you are quelled and rejected on the spot before you get a chance to sour our gameplay experience.

>>10600716
Don't worry about it

>>10600716
You can finish the main story but it's so bare bones, most of the heart and lore is in side shit which very little is available in offline single player. You'll miss things like getting a Tails Chao for Sonic Adventure 2 and story elements with side characters that are richer than the main cast such as Rico.

>>10581703
>PSOanon
Why did you start namefagging and getting an air of self-importance to your posts?
No seriously, you're not providing anything special that a basic PSO-World glance won't provide.

>>10599586
Didn't Tethealla go closed-source? I remember reading on the Ephinea forums that they wanted to discourage any more private servers popping up so they could consolidate the shrinking PSO community.

>>10582132
PSZ just felt like a really downgraded version of PSO to me. Like >>10582270 said, there was no quick menu for swapping weapons or using techs, the camera felt like it was lower to the ground (making it harder to see what was in front of you), something about the attack animations just weren't as satisfying, and perhaps the biggest problem for me was the god-awful Nintendo online system. You couldn't join games that were already in progress, parties were put together through matchmaking that never seemed to work right, and you were stuck to only being able to run one dungeon or quest for the duration of the lobby. And if you wanted to play with friends, you had to deal with Friend Code bullshit.

It was just a poor substitute for PSO.

>>10600742
The old version of Tethealla is still open-source, and you can find old executables (servers and localhost-linked game.exe) based on this version on a pinned thread on Ephinea's forums. Unfortunately this old version have some bugs (like luck material drops being entirely replaced with monomates) and also lack all features current Tethealla have, the default drop table doesn't include any of the JP-only items, and you need to find all of the editors and server management tools to properly use it.
I was able to "fix" the material bug and added one feature (being able to select your SectionID) back then when the Tethealla forum still had people talking about it. It's fun to be able to edit stuff like giving Excal's multi-hit propriety to katanas and sabers, adding Zonde-boost propriety to Raikiri for my FOmar, messing with drop rates so I can put more swords on Skyly, etc. But honestly it was too much effort since there are no tutorials for any of the tools and data is all over the place (item stacking and races' material limits are saved on the game's executable while the rest of the character data is saved on the server, the same item data needs to be saved in different files, every bit of info have a different editor, quest creator is a mystery to me, etc.).
Even if you just want the "plug'n'play" experience (like a typical emulator), a bit of tinkering is required to turn the servers on for the first time, you need at least the server management tool to make your login routine a bit more smooth, and the old executable is kind of fucked on W10 (the game crashes if you use alt-tab on fullscreen mode). The emulator is mostly smooth sailing after that, at least.

tl;dr If you want to play offline just play EP1&2+. Only use Tethealla if you somehow fell in love with EP4's dumb desert and yet really dislike the idea of having your save attached to a server (because you have Schthack PTSD or something), or if you want your own Zonde-boosting Raikiri.

I have tried to return to PSO and found that i can't bear how little control you have omer your characters movement. On the bright side, I rediscovered PSU that passed me by when it was new. It turned out it improved everything, without going full action gameplat like PSO2.

>>10600938
PSO is a janky game. There is a trick for this. You know how your character goes into a battle-ready stance that slows you down when enemies are nearby? Bring up a menu, any menu, to negate this. Could be the chat menu, start menu, quick select menu, whatever. You can now move at full speed, even when surrounded by enemies, and find a gap to slip through unharmed.

>>10600938
The one thing PSU did not improve on was the actual level design. Even though they have far more variety in themes, the actual layouts of the stages become very dry very quickly. PSU is a chore to go through for even the fifth time while PSO was still enjoyable even after the 500th time. It all comes down to PSU's level design, but Phantasy Star Portable 2 fixes most of those issues and even improves upon everything PSU did well.

>>10600964
Traps basically don't exist for anyone running with their menu open.

>>10600964
Thanks, this is new to me.

>>10600987
I wish my pc could run Portable at full speed.

>>10600987
I couldn't get into PSU, despite being so hyped for it that I preordered both the PS2 and PC versions of the game, knowing that they were cross-compatible and that I could use my online character on either system. And while most folks hated that the offline and online were completely seperate, I actually thought that that was a great idea. By keeping the multiplayer portion completely online with server-side saving, you can avoid many of the cheating and griefing issues present in the online modes of previous console entries. And for single player, you play a proper single-player action-RPG, with a predefined character who has a proper story arc, and is uniquely powerful and adaptable compared to player-made multiplayer characters, who goes on to become a legendary character in the story told by the online multiplayer mode. On paper, it sounded perfect. In practice... Sega gonna Sega. PSO hooked me as a game that you could just pick up and play, yet had plenty of depth that you could sink your teeth into. PSU just felt really bogged-down and player-unfriendly. I'll admit that I didn't really give it much of a chancr to grow on me, but PSO didn't need to "grow on me", it was compelling right from the get-go.

I don't want to bore you guys with a detailed description of the things I didn't like about PSU, but Phantasy Star Portable 2 surprised the hell out of me. It was like PSU, but fixed 90% of my problems with PSU, by being more like PSO. PSPo2 is literally the only other online RPG I've ever been able to get into other than PSO. I just wish that that there was a way to use a keyboard to chat.

>>10600995
This is one of so many examples of how PSO got things right purely by accident. If you know the traps are there ahead of time, have a menu open. If not, you might get hit. It reminds me of crawling over mines in MGS.

RRR a cute. That is all.

>>10601172
PSU was god awful at launch, it didn't actually get good until over a year in with the Ambition of Illumimus expansion, after which a lot of people had already written it off.

On top of that, only the Xbox 360 version was really good, as the PC/PS2 shared servers were overrun with hackers which Sega of America could not keep under control. And this was back when 360s were still RRoD'ing so they weren't really a good investment.

But yeah these days if you want a PSU fix you really should just play Portable 2 Infinity.

>>10600000
The digits of truth. You will own nothing, you will eat the bugs, you will play PSO and you WILL be happy.

>>10601176

>>10601176
>>10601325
based

>>10601176
PSO was like, one of the first 3D video games I had ever played where your equipment physically changed your character's appearance and it pains me that not all three of Rico's items can be equipped by every class.

>>10600225
I bought the yellowboze one years ago.

>>10601884
>>10600225
The RAcaseal chogokin is where its at

>>10600719
If /vg/ PSO runs are full of people having rants about peoples parents over a minor disagreement about the efficacy of a character in a discontinued game from 2002 then maybe getting "quelled and rejected on the spot" would be a good thing.

I've been thinking of reviving my old Pentium III system, anybody for some v2 with fresh Lv1 builds some time?

>>10601026
Did you set everything to minimum, turn all speed hacks on and enable frame skip and auto frame skip? Try using an older/newer version of the emulator. Try changing your monitor's color depth to 16bpp after starting PPSSPP to lower requirements.

Post your config.

Post a screenshot or photo of your character. I would like to see them.

>>10602982
Lv68 HUnewearl

>>10602982
Level 142 HUnewearl

>>10602982

>>10603169
damn bro, I want to fuck your character in the asshole, then get her pregnant just so I can drink her lactation.

>>10603169
What a brat...

Another fun fact: for some characters changing skin color also changes things other than skin color, like Sue's clothes or Rupika's tribal tatoos.
https://files.catbox.moe/p6ec0u.webm

hey, sorry if this is the wrong thread for this sort of question, but i want to play this game and was just wondering if the JP copy of PSO v2 on DC has an english language option? its a lot cheaper, but i don't speak japanese. also, do i need to buy it brand new? it seems you need a registration code to play.

>>10603715
Yeah, it has English, Japanese, French, Spanish, German, Korean, Chinese Simplified, and Chinese Traditional.
Registration codes are nothing special, private servers have patched executables that direct you to their own account registration systems.
Save yourself the money and download a repacked torrent of the game here: https://psopalace.sylverant.net/downloads.html
Hit us up again if you wanna play some time.

>>10603735
>Registration codes are nothing special, private servers have patched executables that direct you to their own account registration systems.
Is this true for the Gamecube games as well? Really not too keen on paying aftermarket prices to get a code to make connecting to a server have more features. Then again I might anyway because I'm a bit of a hoarder anyway.

>>10602982

>>10603735
thanks. while you're here i might as well ask, is that also the case for EP3 on the gamecube? also, i noticed the website mentions a patch for the DC version, is it not possible to play on fan servers on an official GD copy? i'm totally fine with emulation/burned CDs so that's not an issue, i'm just a bit of a hoarder and like the feeling of owning the game when i can afford it, though i know that mindset is frowned upon here.

>>10603776
>>10603752
Quite frankly I wouldn't know, never played on DC or GC, only PC. Sylverant and Ragol should support all of those platforms, so read on their respective sites on what you should need to do.

>>10603789
i see, thanks anyway.

>>10602982
i hit the dressing room quite frequently though

>>10603875
You got enough gun there?

>>10603946
A little bit more gun please

>>10603946
>>10603954
It was the only solution to some booma wanting to tear her a superfluous new behind.

>>10603976
Im 123
But no V101 yet, hoping it drops this week
v(｡･ω･｡)

I think I will give my Dreamcast PSO one last touch before I set it down and pick up Ephimea.

>>10604081
Here you are, Gadeon. +4 Autogun. Level 16. Double MAG. Love this guy.

>>10595472
blue burst

>when they talkin shit about the FO

I tried making a new texture for the default saber.

>>10604357

>>10604370
>>10604357
thanks I hate it

>>10604389
What about upscaled stuff?

Frying pan best weapon.

>>10604693
it’s alright, nothing crazy about it.

https://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=27&sortby=name

>>10604702
It's funny, that alone puts it at the top.

>>10604702
>go to PSO-World to check out the rare item database
>tfw you realize that Rangers don’t get Launchers on the Dreamcast

Does PSO even share a timeline with any of the previous Phantasy Stars before it?

>>10605330
I think when there was only Episode One it was conceived as taking playing in the far, far, far future of Phantasy Star. But as the series evolved, they moved away from it until it was decided that it took place in an entirely different universe.

>>10605330
I remember reading at the time that the ruins (or a log in the ruins) had something to do with PSIII but that might've been speculation.

>>10576467
Absolutely.

>>10605359
Yeah I think it's supposed to be related to the escaped spaceship colonies from Phantasy Star 2 that escaped planet Palma being destroyed. Phantasy Star 3 takes place on one as well.

>>10605330
>>10605359
MOOTE DEIZ POMM = Motavia Dezolis Palma

What exactly is the "Blue Burst"? The meteorite in the crater is green. Pioneer 1 explosion was blue, but that was back in Episode 1.

PS4 - Abyss and PSO - Nearest Place to Heaven Part 2 are kinda similar sounding

>>10605330
As far as I know the only direct connections (no easter eggs, just in-game storylines) to PSO in other games are PSZ's post-ending quest and maybe PSP2i's true ending (and that goofy "friendship is time/space magic" quest), though in the latter's case it's a bit hard to say if the reveal is an intended part of PSO's timeline or just the devs fucking around with nostalgia fanservice (or both). The goofy quest only exists so people don't blame Nagisa for killing millions.
That said, I believe it's possible to assume PSO have an indirect connection of sorts with the classic series, if you are into fan theories.
>PSZ mentions that "Earth" (PSZ's planet) used to be called "Coral" before Mother decided the only way to fix Coral was to genocide humanity and all of their toys
This is the bit of information (plus newmans being technically failures and Mother Trinity project) that connects PSZ to PSO. Despite its name, Phantasy Star Zero is actually set hundreds of years after PSO's events.
>Pionner 1 brought mostly military and scientists to Ragol, and Pioneer 2 was full of civilians and mercenaries (and criminal organizations full of knife-ear womanlets for some reason). I assume the corrupt politicians who ruined Coral didn't just decide to die with their planet, so maybe a Pioneer 3 was built at some point, especially because P2 cut communications with Coral in EP3.
>both PSII's Earthmen and PSO's Coral are advanced civilizations of humans who left their dying planets and invented super-computers (both of them called Mother) that are capable of modifying the landscape of planets
And maybe a possible Pioneer 3 ended up on Algol somehow.
All that said, the series is full of intentional parallels like that, and maybe PSZ's writers just wanted a cool reveal and the name "Earth" is just a coincidence. As a side note, did you know this series have at least three (possibly four, maybe even five) planets called EARTH? Funny stuff.

>>10606408
Just a fancy way to use the "BB" subtitle, for BroadBand

More upscaled textures

>>10607074
soulless