/vr/ - Retro Games

you're retarded and that's not how that works.

Usually, retro games that chug do so because the CPU can't keep up. Look at an SNES emulator running Star Fox with and without CPU and SuperFX speeds up

AI ain't got nothing to do with that shit

the idea of "frame generation" in fact that: generating in-between frames using AI to save on rendering. but at the moment is gimmicky at best (only enhance framerates above 60fps), and even then the resulting generated frames are just motion-blurred tweens.

>>10605226
yeah, just wait 2 more weeks

>>10605226
Kill yourself

It makes it look "smoother", but it doesnt address input latency at all. Its just slop at the end of the day.

stop being a bitch

>>10605226
better to train a decompilation ai

>>10605226
I hate zoomer framebabies so much it's unreal.

>>10605238
You're an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about and didn't even understand what OP was suggesting.

>>10605226
Looks fine to me.

>there are many games i refuse to play because of the framerate
I'm fucking GLAD.

Some emulators do have options to emulate an overclocked cpu.

>>10605238
ironically you're the retard

>>10605238
The game that the OP posted a gif from, Virtual Hydlide, runs at a slideshow framerate on real hardware. That's the kind of game they're talking about.

>>10605845
>runs at a slideshow framerate on real hardware
I love games that run at their native resolution.

>>10605865
Not sure what that has to do with the fact the game runs like shit on original hardware. It's one of the biggest examples of this.

>>10605875
I love games that run like shit, I absolutely fucking love games that drop below 30 frames per second. I play them without issue, knowing other people can't.

>>10605226
>games with low framerate are forever safe from zoomer hands
holy based

>>10605932
zoomer eyes can probably withstand shitty framerates better than mine.

>>10605882
>i love eating shit
that's nice but actual humans are speaking

>>10606087
I don't eat shit, I'm just not a fucking crybaby about framerates.

>>10606317
If you think Virtual Hydlide's single digit framerate is playable and only zoomzooms complain, you are eating shit.

Most of these games were jury-rigged to the frame rate in one way or another and overclocking them breaks the game

>>10605226
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICsEbofw_nE
Look at this smooth framerate WOOOOO thanks AI

>>10606319
Looks fine to me, I even like the graphics. Sorry about what you lack in perception.

>>10606489
it's ok not to be a contrarian from time to time

>>10606623
"Animation: it stutters far too much!"
October 1995

>b-but i'm a boomer i like shitty framerates

>>10606636
based

>>10605226
>can AI enhance retro game framerate in the near future?

>>10606698

>>10606703
it's somehow even worse

>can AI enhance retro game framerate in the near future?
How? Like attempt to draw in-between frames? Have half the rendered shit be your computer draw cursed ass shit?

>boomers being out of touch with technology
not surprised

>>10606753
>draw in-between frames
Frame generation, DLSS does this. It just werks

You have no idea if anything wasn't hardcoded to a certain framerate.

>>10605226
You can interpolate it to high framerates with AI interp models, but AI will never be able to reduce latency that is inherent to low framerate games no matter how high the apparent FPS is. If you don't care about input delay but do care about interpolation, then just wait for someone to inevitably make a solution for this.

If AI is so great why not just get it to make the perfect game.

>>10605226
It's hard to say. I feel like it can help, but knowing what I know about the way this works with TV shows and movie remasters, it might not look perfect. Actually optimizing the game will always be the best option in this case, but AI could make it look smoother even if not 100% accurate, at least in its current implementation

>>10607353
One day it will probably happen

>>10605226
What, for emulators?
Has to be a reason that isn't just yours.

>>10605226
This is basically a feature on your tv right now if you bought it in the last few years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYDzL5hVzSM
This is the best we'll get.

>>10605226
>interpolate a bunch of frames
sure, at the cost of massive latency (you'd always be at least 1 rendered frame behind), it'd be purely graphical and external to the actual emulation
>improve responsiveness
not without rewriting the game itself

>>10607353
Because that'd require the perfect prompt.

>>10605238
DLSS is essentially "AI" generating frames.

>>10607697
>sure, at the cost of massive latency (you'd always be at least 1 rendered frame behind), it'd be purely graphical and external to the actual emulation
i'm too dumb to understand how adding frames would increase the latency.
plus as others said, dlss is basically AI adding frames and it seems to work ok

>>10607697
>sure, at the cost of massive latency (you'd always be at least 1 rendered frame behind), it'd be purely graphical and external to the actual emulation
i'm too dumb to understand how adding frames would increase the latency. there's still the same amount of time for an action to happen after you push the button isn't it.
plus as others said, dlss is basically AI adding frames and it seems to work ok

>>10607731
if I want to interpolate between frame A and frame B I need to know what frame B looks like...

>>10607731
Anon, draw a color gradient between red and

>>10607693
I'm extremely triggered by Zelda 2's "improved" title screen.

>>10606363
Man is there anything AI can't do?

>>10605245
>yeah, just wait 2 more weeks
In your dreams. It will take at least 3 weeks.

It breaks physics a lot, and you aren’t going to fix that unless the code changes