/vr/ - Retro Games

RE4 is always gonna be the best, bud. Stay mad.

>>10597504
I liked 3 more. It was actually challenging, and that made it feel like a real survival horror situation.

>>10597504
Remake, RE 4 and the original are better.

>>10597518
FPBP
classicfags are delusional

>>10597531
I don't understand how anyone can enjoy RE1/2. They have their moments, but I felt like I was fighting and limited by the controls. I don't mind the cheesy dialog.

>>10597531
>>10597540
you didn't see 9/11 happen did you?

>>10597518
5 is better in everyway and 4keks shit on it for no reason.
>>10597531
4 IS classic. Proof? Shit camera controls.

REmake 1 and original 3 are my favorite, but 2 gets a lot of credit for the inticacy of the A/B runs if you actually do them properly. Very fun stuff.
>>10597518
5 is better than 4 because at least with 5 I can play a fun coop shooter with a friend, whereas in 4 I am just playing a shitty shooter with shit controls and not even a real RE game.

>>10597669
I'm 39. I just don't enjoy tank controls.

>>10597679
RE4make is better, peak of the series

>>10597679
>>10597690
>RE4 but with niggers, bo merchant and boulder punching
it was trash

>>10597707
Tank controls are fine. Regualr controls WITH tank cameras suck ass though and was suprisngly common in the 6th gen for some reason.
>>10597718
>Re4 but better controls, kino guns, amazing mini game, chris godfield instead of leonskeksneedy
I'm thinking not only the best, but the kinest of the nono's third person shooters.

i think you're insane if you think 5 is better than 4.

>it's not re4 secondaries anymore
>now it's re5 tertiaries
how much lower can we go

>>10597707
then you were never a fan of RE to begin with, so you enjoying 4 makes sense

>>10597504
infinite health and ammo: the game

>>10597504
I grown to like re1 more.

>>10597718
>he doesnt like curb stomping niggers in RE5
Not sure what to tell you

Are you supposed to kill most of the zombies you see? I feel like this game gave so much more ammo than the first one, which makes it play so much differently.

>>10597707
tank controls are specifically good in resident evil because they're slow paced games based around you choosing spots to stand in place and fire against melee enemies, your movement having no influence on the orientation of your vision also helps. most games that used them weren't nearly as well suited conceptually. tank controls feel like shit when things are shooting at you or you need to rotate to face fast moving enemies coming at you from all sides.

>>10597916
I don't like niggers in general. I see them enough in real life, I don't need them in my games.

>>10597690
>5 is better than 4
go back to /v/ contrarian zoom zoom

>>10597943
you also go back to /v/ with the piece of shit that is 4

>>10597504
It has the most content but I always had a soft spot for 3, and I think REmake is the technical best
>>10597518
I can't even consider 4 part of the series. It'd be like saying "Mario Kart is the best game in the Mario series." It's a separate thing altogether.

>>10597504
RE3 is better and has more replayability.

>>10597946
calling re4 a piece of shit is a tiresome absurdity. you dont have real opinions.

>>10597948
>It'd be like saying "Mario Kart is the best game in the Mario series."
stupid analogy.

>>10597957
You're stupid if you don't understand it

>>10597943
I'm 35 and never go to /v/, I just hate RE4 and what it did to the series. You can't dispute the fact that 5 is a fun coop shooter and 4 is a shit game with shit controls that I can't even play with a friend. If I have to play nuRE, at least I can play with a friend in 5 and 6. 4 is just that piece of shit solo game with shit controls and no zombies. Fuck everything about RE4.

>>10597957
It's a perfect analogy actually. Mario Kart is a subseries of Mario, in the same way that RE4 is a subseries of RE

>>10597972
>Mario Kart is a subseries of Mario, in the same way that RE4 is a subseries of RE
no. mario kart is completely separate from a platformer, it only retains theming. re4 is an evolution of the core tank control zombie shooting in resident evil, there is a mechanical connection.

RE4 is definitely a bastardized rendition of the classic Resident Evil formula, but it still retains way too many aspects of classic Resident Evil's design to be considered a subseries/spinoff

>>10597984
In Mario Kart there's jumping between platforms and the goal is to get to the end of the level. It's as much a "mechanical connection" as RE4 has to RE1-2-3

>i dont like game, therefore its not part of the series

>>10598012
Nta, but you're reaching way too hard. Mario kart is a racing game. You fucking lost stop digging a hole. Jesus Christ.

>>10598016
Liking it has nothing to do with it. Lots of people don't like 0 or even CV but they're still in the same style as the other games. 4+ are too different to compare alongside the first games and are functionally a different set. For that matter, 7 and 8 are also too different from 4-6 to really compare them.
>>10598031
Nobody who has to say "you fucking lost" has won anything.
>Mario kart is a racing game
And RE4 is a third-person shooter

>>10598031
Nta, but Mario Kart is a racing game, RE4 is an action game. What don't you understand about this?

>>10598038
>And RE4 is a third-person shooter
And? It's directly related to the mechanics of re1,2 and 3. You're reaching so far up your ass your hand is coming out your mouth. Here's your (you), faggot. Now I'm riding myself of your parasitic retardation.

>>10598045
What is "directly related" supposed to mean? There's no coherent argument you're going to be able to make for how RE4 is just like the original games that aren't going to come across as stretched logic that could as easily apply to Mario.
Again, you might as well be saying Mario Golf is comparable to Mario 64 because the behind-the-shoulder camera controls are the same, and that's the kind of reasoning your argument is resting on. It's just bad logic.

>>10597968
>I just hate RE4
because you're a contrarian faggot
no wonder you think the piece of shit REmake (inferior to the original) is the peak of the series

>>10597518
1-2-3 and Code Veronica are one series (with tank controls).

The others, are another series, even if they kept the name. This may make some braindead-zoomer seethe, but I'm not saying you can't enjoy that, they are simply another thing.

It's like comparing the original SuperMarioBros1 vs Mario64, it's two entirely different games

>>10598063
>no wonder you think the piece of shit REmake (inferior to the original) is the peak of the series
Where did I say REmake is the peak of the series? I simply said that REmake and original 3 are my favorites. Reading comprehension is not for RE4 fans I see.

>>10598108
>REtrash is my favorite
contrarian AND a pseud confirmed

>>10598110
Sounds like you've got a good argument for why RE4 is a good RE game

>>10598114
>x is a good game but not a good y game!!!
go back to r*ddit you drone

>>10598116
good argument for RE4 being a good RE game

>>10598119
>/v/edditor drone is a broken record
spoken like a true NPC

>>10597504
Ah crap I got this game in my path. What am I supposed to do? There's a game in my path. And it's a really good one... I'll have to call in sick

>>10598121
I'm not sure why you think I use reddit or /v/, but you seem like an unhinged autistic retard who needs to get off the internet. The irony of calling me a drone while you rabidly defending RE4, the most reddit RE game, is just completely lost on you.

I liked re4. Never got the hate. Shame most humans are reactionaries.

>>10598130
>he most reddit RE game
you're the one defendiing REddit the shit game jerked off by pseuds and contrarians

>>10597504
RE1 > RE4 > Code Veronica > POWER GAP > RE3 > RE2

>>10598132
It sounds like you know a lot about reddit, you might fit in better there. Is pseud short for pseudo intellectual? Is that the new zoom term?

>>10597504
official ranking of all retro RE games

RE4 >>> RE3 > RE2 > RE1 > Dead Aim > Outbreak 2 > Outbreak 1 > Caca Shitronica > REtrash > Zero/10 > Shitvivor 2 > Shitvivor 1 > Gayden

if you didn't play all the games listed here then (you) have no right to disagree with my objective ranking you faggot

>>10598149
I only played 1-2-3 and CacacShitonica, so I may not rank all of them.

But, why (you) and not you?

>>10597518
zoom zoom

>>10598149
can you calmly and rationally explain why you dislike REmake?

>>10598138
Kek, that retard fucked off hard

>>10598149
Objective ranking? How so? show the board your planning and work.

>>10598149
RE1 > RE3 > Zero > RE2 > REmakes > Code Veronica > RE4 > Outbreak 1 > Outbreak 2 > Dead Aim > Survivor 1 > Survivor 2 > Gayden

Kill yourself

>>10598471
>RE4 below Zero
this is a new level of contrarianism kek go neck yourself

>>10599042
RE0 isn't as bad as people say. Great aesthetics and the gameplay itself is good, it just has some parts that'll fuck you on the first play-through

>>10599182
I think its main issue is that it's just kind of a boring, redundant premise. Rebecca is already in re1, they really didn't have the hook re3 did to justify an interquel.

>>10597679
>5 is better in everyway
5 is literally worse in every way. Shit level design, shit enemies, shit bosses, shit forced co-op mechanics in what should have been a single-player game, and all the blatant attempts at copying the fads of the time and aping Call of Duty and Gears of War in a soulless cashgrab (which is why Chris is all roided up, why there's more of a military focus, why they're in Africa, why there's shitty green and brown color filters over the camera, why there are more gun zombies and cover shooting compared to RE4, etc.)

>>10597504
Guess OPs IQ. The thread.

>>10599042
Any fixed angle RE game is better than RE4, this includes both 0 and CVX

>>10597504
RE2 is still king

>RE1
is the second best
>RE3
could be the greatest, but falls apart after clocktower
>4RE
it's fun, cool, fast, looty, reminds me of dremcast arcade games

There are not many good remakes out there, and for a very long time REmake 1 remained the gold standard for remakes (I like both RE1 and REmake 1, for the record), but now that REmake 4 is out, the original can be completely ignored and put into the garbage can of history. The control scheme alone makes the original 4 a pile of shit, and I thank God everyday that the remake of 4 exists and actually feels good to play mechanically. The level of precision in movement and aiming is phenomenal, the stealth kills are fun, and the parrying + pistol gameplay makes me feel like John Wick. I've finished the game 3 times on hardcore, once on professional, and am now doing my second run on professional. After years of hating the original for writing off Umbrella in the opening scene, I can finally say that I like the remake of 4. I'm still a little mad about the series moving away from zombies and more classic horror and fixed angles, but at the end of the day, the remake is fun as fuck. The original may have been the only shooter in existence to play worse with mouse and keyboard than a controller, and now that it plays great with mouse and keyboard, I can't stop playing it. I think once I have had my fill of this I will play the original Super Mario RPG, but that is for another thread.

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>>10597504
I feel like og re2 and re3 had the coolest atmosphere for an actual zombie outbreak on the ps1. Hell probably even beats anything on the ps2 aside from maybe the outbreak spin offs

>>10599653
stopped reading (you know exactly where)

kys yourself

>>10600215
If you live stream your suicide to prove to me that you killed yourself, then I promise I will kill myself, but only if you kill yourself first

Second question, how far behind is RE3 from RE2?

>>10597952
/thread

>>10600401
in gameplay terms I would say there's parity, more a matter of taste in what you prefer. re2 is definitely the more iconic adventure, contribution to the IP.

>>10600401
RE3 has a lot of great parts, but a fair amount of frustrating and clunky ones too (dodging is unreliable at best and a liability at worst). It's a good game, but 2 is better holistically

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The items immediately setting off a lightbulb as to where you might use them in 2, ups the pace from RE1, and the decision making over what zombies to kill, and more inventve ways of their layouts in rooms, sometimes bunched together, makes the game more strategic. You have more choice and options than in 1. For instance, crowd of zombies attack npc, do you take his gun risking bite or run? Weak zombie is near you as you enter a room and you don't have time to turn around, do you let them bite and push them away or shotgun them? There's just way more moment to moment decision making on the fly. Whereas RE1 almost always has one optimal strategy.

The atmosphere and mansion are slightly better than the police station, but the atmosphere of the police station is underrated. RE2 has you in a fallen city where everyone is dead, it's like Stephen King's the langoliers, looking at empty chairs in the police room, reading about the last days of the officers. Seeing your celebratory cards, then finding something deeper going on.

It doesn't have the same effect as 3, which feels way more populated and alive.

I think 2 has the best of all aspects of the classic series. It improves on 1 in every way, so much so that 1 retains it's uniqueness, like Devil May Cry 1 and Devil May cry 3, or MGS1 and something like MGS3.

Resident Evil has bee rebuilt from the ground up to good success multiple times with 4, and 7, but 2 is the greatest refinement of a successful formula. I suppose remake also counts as doing this.

It's a question of is the leap between 1 and 2 greater than between 1 and RE1 remake.

>>10602872
>decision making over what zombies to kill
what? you always have more ammo than you need in re2 to kill everything you see. even re1 ends up like this at the guardhouse

>>10602875
assuming you know where all the ammo is and don't waste it

>>10597707
RE4 has tank controls you fucking moron. Every entry did, up till RE6, where they switched fully to TPS controls

What you don't like is the camera angles of the classic REs, coupled with tank controls.

What tank controls are, you press left and right to rotate, up and down to move. So again: RE1, 2, 3, CV, Zero, Remake, 4, 5 and Revelations ALL HAVE TANK CONTROLS. Only revelations has alternative control options.

>>10597754
What the hell is tank camera? You mean the different camera angles like a movie? Lots of 6th gen games has that because prerendering allowed environments to look much better, taxed the hardware far less and resulted in smaller file sizes.

Some of the areas in FFVII (for example) couldn't be properly rendered by the PS1 in real time, would have looked far worse and the game would have been much larger, storage wise. So the logical solution was used.

>>10597920
The first one was heavily altered for its American release so that kids wouldn't be able to beat the game on a single rental.
The amount of ammo on every pickup was halved, auto aim was removed among other changes.

RE2 has differences between regions too, but far less pronounced. The US version is honestly no harder than the JP version.

>>10603008
They didn't change the amount of ammo you get in the US version of 1. You do get 2 ink ribbons per pickup instead of 3 though.
And RE2 isn't a hard game by any stretch, but the Japanese version is just disgusting. There's fewer enemies, they do less damage overall, and most of the hidden ammo pickups are moved somewhere in plain sight. It also has a very basic form of adaptive difficulty where enemies do 2/3 damage if your health is 50% or less.

>>10602986
fag

>>10603008
>The first one was heavily altered for its American release so that kids wouldn't be able to beat the game on a single rental.
why would the devs care about that?

>>10603556
Because the producers told them they had to

>>10603558
i guess what im asking is why would anyone involved in creating the game care about how many times kids rent it. once the rental store buys the game, why would they care how many times it gets rented at that point?

>>10603568
The slower the rate of return, the more copies the store needs to carry

>>10597504
It's pretty fucking great but I feel like it's a lot more lenient with mistakes than 1. Not that it's a bad thing, but it loses a bit of the survival horror feel the first one had. 3 is a full blown action game.

>>10603343
He is right but not for the reasons he cited. The game doesn't drop less ammo in the US version but enemy HP is tweaked to make them weaker so you'll end up using less ammo if you fight them. Hunters can be killed with just on magnum round, for example. You can play with this difficulty setting on standard mode's Director's Cut if I remember correctly.

>>10597518
>tank controls without a fixed camera
ok fag.

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>>10597690
Best take in the thread, based anon

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>>10597504
It’s classic but it’s not as good as re3

personally I think 6 is the peak of the franchise

>>10597518
>RE4
= RE easytype

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