/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10591330
There are a few websites like that.
Refuge.tokyo is a slick website with a romanized titles option so searching is easier for you.
PC98.org is form over function and the guy who manages it generally plays/boots the games for a short bit unlike refuge.tokyo so you get something of a very small idea of what it is.
Seesaawiki is pretty decent too, but the actual lists themselves are being repopulated with videos instead meaning that you'll have to use the search function to see if they have a small article with screenshots+gif, an audio sample and generally some advertisement.

You also have .xrea lists in Japanese, but those tend to be text only with some useful cataloguing information at best.
Somewhat related for PC-88 there's 8-bits.info, that comes with a randomize option and has 1100 games listed which is a good chunk, but as its name implies, it doesn't have a section for PC-98 (it does for X68K so they lie).

https://refuge.tokyo/
https://www.pc98.org/main.html
https://seesaawiki.jp/chitentai/

Unless you have learned Japanese for ancient Japanese and definitely non-pornographic literature like most 4chan JSLs, don't bother.
If you did, just pick something and give it a shot, as a system it relied heavily on its very early larger resolution making it perfect for ADV, RPGs, strategy and VNs when they became a thing. Anyone making anything actiony for the most part stuck to other systems (that honestly were even less suited most of the time). That's not to say it didn't exist, but it is quite outnumbered.

>>10591353
An extremely high quality post? In my 4chan? Must be dreaming.

Did the language used back in the nineties for this game really differ that heavily from modern Japanese? I'm not adverse to learning more, but if it's something where you have to be beyond fluent to grasp it, there's probably no point.

Thank you for the links. I will be investigating them thoroughly.

>>10591353
Function over form for PC98.org btw, automatism.

>>10591330
Kuro no Ken (there's a voiced PS version and apparently even a Windows one, though probably not voiced on the account of its size) is a pretty cool JRPG. It's untranslated.

>>10591370
Oh and, no. Aside from old slang jokes which is a thing in most every language. Everyone who learns Japanese for gaming reasons on 4chan definitely didn't do it for porn initially though.

>>10591330
rusty?

>>10591330
does anyone know what game?
>>10591535

>>10591537
WONPARA Wars 2.

>>10591330
Yes. Just get a text hooker if needed.

corpse party

>>10591912
GreenGoobased and periodpilled

Brandish series (3 and VT or the improved version "Brandish 4" for windows not translated though)

Madou Monogatari series versions for PC98 which have a lot of gore compared to the more child-friendly versions for other systems, better pixel art too.

>>10591912
Goes show lit snes music on spc player: http://maloga.dotera.net/files/mymusic/cop1snes.zip

Example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2YefFV-oLU&si

>>10591912
>that vn

>>10591330
Yu No is good. Without a guide, it's actually got a lot of game to it to find all the routes. You'll need a guide though if you don't wanna take notes and draw flowcharts

>>10591330
>Are there any PC-98 games that are legitimately really good?
Yes
>Seems like the vast majority are untranslated anyway.
Hopefully it will stay that way. The fanbase is cancerous enough as it is.
>>10591643
>Just get a text hooker
Based faps to asciiart grandpa

What do you think of the remake?

>>10593757
I don't think I've ever seen a better example of SOVL vs SOVLLESS

ok i'm i wrong or is the only PC-98 emulator like 50 steps long?
https://youtu.be/RKLHJafkif8?si=fTrWQyruA27QE8KG

>>10591330
YU-NO is hands down the greatest game ever created.

>>10593757
What game is this? Is it the same as in OP?

>>10591537
That is Xenon.

>>10594536
dosbox-x werks pretty well too

>>10594541
Correct, that is Eve Burst Error.

>>10594536
It is if you need to do multi-emu launcher autistic version usage with an extra frontend.. Most of the video is preparing it for that/doing that. Something you won't need to do if you are massively intelligent with a wicked sense of humor, as you can just download the emulator, the roms you want and maybe change the .ini to allow for savestates and texthooking which are both disabled by default.

>>10594536
It takes two minutes.

>>10591330
I have this. ordered it online back when it was sketchy as fuck lol. Fucking love this game.

>>10594705
Nice. Would you recommend it?

>>10594708
yeah, its fun. sort of like a choose your own adventure books but better.

>>10594710
Right, I'll try it out. Thanks, anon.

>>10594721
no prob, dev is C's Ware theres a few more in the eve series IIRC. quite a few on archive under dev name.

>>10594756
Were they translated, too?
I remember playing another game by C's Ware... was it Dividead or something? It started up spooky and mysterious for the first half an hour, then it went retarded and I didn't understand the plot, IIRC. That's been nearly 20 years.

>>10594772
burst error is the only one I ever bought unfortunately, the story and plot makes sense on burst error though for what its intended to deliver lol

>>10594536
I could figure this shit out in 2003 what's your excuse

There was a Patreon cashgrab who localized the games in the old school way, meaning he didn't know Japanese and just guessed what's going on.

Still the breast

>>10598236
Always will be.
>>10596901
Retronomicon? I liked his works, it was fun to play. I even became a patron.

>>10592318
vn is the second game. first game is like alone in the dark... or that nes horror game i forget name of. one that inspired resident evil

>>10599916
Sweet Home.

>>10591330
Its all porn. If you're not a coomer(Im not so my machine stays in the closet) there's nothing there for you.

>>10600021
yeah that. corpse party basically ripoff of that. and later yume nikki. some people claim that games like alone in the dark arent really horror anymore because horror didnt exist yet so it was more in realm of adventure games, like point and click or a walking simulator. all these games have this in common where it's neither vn or survival horror, but like an 'adventure' game in old school sense of that word

>>10600380
Is the pc-98 version of Corpse Party translated? If not, what would be the best version to play?

>>10600021
Abaddon? That game is far less sexual that Corpse Party.

>>10600380
Corpse Party > Sweet Home
>>10600391
Rebuilt

>>10591330
Dead of Brain (Return of Living Dead-inspiring)

>>10591330
i'll post an interesting one.
giten megami tensei. it has a translation in the works for both the pc 98 and the windows version but they're both buggy rn.
most stable way to play is in jp on the pc 98

>>10593757
>left
i love pc 98 artwork so much

>>10594536
np2kai, my anon

>>10591643
what's a good text hooker i can use with a pc 98 emulator?

>>10602196
Textractor.
If you need a little tuto: https://vgmrips.net/wiki/Setting_up_Neko_Project_2_with_Textractor

>>10602163
How good is the game?

>>10592318
The most unforgettable horror porn game

just use screen hook and MTL. translations aren't any better than interpreting it yourself

>>10591330
I have fun playing the Wrestle Angels series.
Like legit fun, not just for the fanservice.
Couldn't really enjoy the V series because ive no idea how training works there.

>>10591912
Jailbait has never been more terrifying.

>>10603362
i want to lick that bellybutton

>>10602219
ty, anon!

>>10602403
it has a lot of cool ideas like you have an arm computer with useful functions on it - a minimap, a translator that lets you negotiate with demons, etc. but you can also accidentally download viruses onto it that makes it unusable.
it's also bs at the beginning and unforgiving

>>10603817
>you can also accidentally download viruses onto it that makes it unusable
Looks fun. I'll wait until the translation is complete.
>it's also bs at the beginning and unforgiving
IIRC Megami Tensei 1 & 2 also have bullshit prologues.

>>10593757
This is upsetting.

>>10593757
>>10602167
>>10603985
>half-moe style & downgrade death
What were they thinking?!

>>10593757
are pc 98 games the best that games have to offer in terms of 2d art?

>>10593757
Do these "remakes" ever come with an original mode? This shit is repulsive...

>>10593757
does the remake actually add anything good?
like qol or something?

>>10604148
They are up there for anything pre-2000, the issue with post-2000 is that everyone prefers making 3D games as it is easier and cheaper to do than high quality 2D and the Japanese didn't really advance that quickly in that.
The PC-98 had a pretty insane resolution for the early days too, granted that advantage shrank as time went on, but in return it got FM synth which is nice (along with literally any other JPC, being a synth producer probably helps).
There are western games with good artstyles and similar resolutions in the pre-2000 era too, but it definitely was all a bit more "standardised" in Japan as that was just their base style most of the time with minor variations for starting artists. The bottom of the Japanese barrel in art is extra alien though, but luckily those don't get much attention in the west.

Depends what you mean by legitimately really good.
I thought Necronomicon was very cool when I watched someone stream it a while ago, but I don't think it has any translation yet.

>>10604809
what do you think is the bottom of the barrel for japanese art?

>>10604971
That depends on the era, if we'd really want to go ugliest, keep in mind that I'm specifically talking within the context of games.
Stuff in the early 80s is obviously not going to look pretty unless you want the game to spend a long time drawing every scene unless you try to "draw" using characters (essentially ASCII art with special graphical character) which tends to be creative at least. Trying to go for sprites comes with massive clashing of colours between sprites, but that's not unique to Japanese systems.
If we're talking actual art, think terrible proportions. The typical artstyle already has somewhat deformed proportions which isn't a bad thing, but when they fuck it up badly you just get actual aliens.
Also we can think of the comical, I forgot the name of it, was a small or middling game/anime franchise where the official artists drew everything with excessively oversized breasts and gigantic eyes. I'm no prude, but that was a bit much. I've seen it posted before here so someone probably knows its name. The rest of the artstyle wasn't exactly amazing either, but at least it was original.

>>10605015
Not the anon you're answering too, but I remember the gigantic tits & eyes monster.

>>10602172
>load floppy
>install game on hdi
>drivers missing
>wrong hardware settings
It isn't as simple as selecting the right emulator. There needs to be a database of settings for each game, instead of trawling through forums to see what version of the sound chip a game supports.

>>10605212
What games aren't running for you, anon?

>>10605216
No particular title - it's a general issue when only a floppy is available rather than an hdi with the game already installed.

>>10605294
>complain
>there's actually no problem

>>10599339
I'm glad her original designer still loves her

>>10606936
Who wouldn't?

what do you guys think of misty blue? it's been in the back of my mind ever since someone posted a song from it in an ost thread. it has good music.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu_28ytG4bg
i'll probably check it out soon

>>10608914
also, something funny about misty blue is that one of the songs sounds like the corneria theme from ff1

lovers - misty blue
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fRVn48dOv20&list=PL5C4B4FAAA4BBAC53&index=12&pp=iAQB8AUB

corneria - ff1
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UaaShIQnrHg&pp=ygUQZmYxIGNhc3RsZSB0aGVtZQ%3D%3D

>>10608914
Never played the game, and I can't if it's not translated anyway.
That being said, it's a good song indeed, thanks for sharing.

>>10608914
From what I heard it's largely a step up from what ADV games used to be when it comes to production value and it starts the shift from ADV game to VN. It's more important as a PC-88 game, but that's from a historical perspective. For playing it's largely irrelevant what version it is.

>>10593757
They turned the rasta man into black Mike Pence

>>10609325
Damn anon, I can't unsee it.

>>10605015
>>10605201
>small or middling game/anime franchise where the official artists drew everything with excessively oversized breasts and gigantic eyes

Robopon?

>>10609618
Dayum, lina inverse looks like THAT?

>>10591912
>that VN
The most unforgettable horror porn game I've ever played. No other game had a bunch of elementary schoolers gangbang a teenage girl against a wall. And the teenage girl loved it. No other game I've played had a 17 year old bishonen guy drink a 14 year old girl's piss and chase her down the hall to rape her, only to wind up getting anally raped by a 32 year old fat man. I still remember the scene where a 16-17 girl was hiding under a bed as her same age best friend was having sex with that same 32 year old fat guy on top. She heard every moan, bed shake and sound. In the wrong end she was discovered under the bed by her friend and made to join. A most terrifying scene was when an unwilling girl relives another girl's sex memories. The girl in the memory consented but the reliving girl didn't. It didn't matter that she was mentally screaming, her body in the memory did all the motions and actions as in history. It's like mind control rape except the victim was fully aware. Another scene the same girl and a friend were almost raped in a magic sex ritual, saved by the girl's older sister, and the backlash made the older sister want to rape her younger sister and friend.

The loli in this pic is freakishly lewd and once disguised herself as a teenage girl, fucked a boy until he nearly came, transformed back saying
>You thought you were having sex with a highschooler weren't you? I'm an elementary schooler all along!
And leglocks that boy, forcing him to cum inside her unprotected, when he screams in fear upon learning this. This isn't even getting into the tentacles, the gay sex, the lesbian sex, the incest, the sequel's mother/daughter lesbian scene, etc. The first chapter alone contains lots of lesbian sex scenes with an unavoidable girl masturbating in the bathroom. Truly horror is intrinsically connected with sexuality.

>>10609618
Yes.

>>10602219
i tried it and it connected but it doesn't capture the jp text. it just says things like"window" "emulate" etc.
i don't know what i did wrong or maybe it's just the game. i'll try a different game

>>10610689
Something like that, anon?

>>10609861
What is the horror game called?

>>10610801
yeah, stuff like that. it says weird stuff in all the dropdown options

>>10612269
Sorry anon, I haven't been using it for a couple of years. IIRC you need a special (old) version of NP21 called NP21W, which supports text hooks. The savestates are hidden but you can add them easily in the config file.

>>10610863
PSPee special edition

>>10612424
i got np21w. the 0.86 version specified in the tutorial. i'll look around more and see what i can about fixes. i probably just messed up something stupid and it'll be an easy fix or something

>>10612424
The newest version straight from the website works fine though after you edit the ini though, just add the given hooks and wait for some actual text to appear (images and buttons are generally not text).

>>10613440
i'll try it. ty, anon!
just to make sure, i have to add "USETHOOK=true" right? because that's what i put in the ini in the version i was using.

>>10613567
Yes, USETHOOK=true in the version of NP21w's ini you'll be using.
Then after opening up textractor and hooking it to NP21, you'll add the following hooks manually in case Textractor doesn't. Any other hooks can be removed to get rid of clutter, but you'll still get clutter anyway. After some actual text is displayed, you should look through the lot. If you don't fiddle with the menu too much before starting emulation and hooking, they should end up near the top.
/HS4@0:kernel32.dll:lstrlenA
/HQ4@0:kernel32.dll:lstrlenW

>>10613669
oh, i added the second hook you mentioned but i never did the first one
>HS4@0:kernel32.dll:lstrlenA
maybe that's what's wrong. ty, anon!

>>10591330
Ryuuki Denshou: Dragoon. Probably the most fun and unique TRPG I've ever played. It got a remake for PSX and an erotic OVA, but unfortunately no translation

>>10613669
Not the anon you're answering to, but thanks for being helpful.

Why does untranslated matter? If you're not a faggot, you can just learn the language. Reading those old VNs will make you fluent all on its own.

Bump

>>10594536
this video is retarded.

>>10609726
nagalaugh.jpg

>>10592281
wow, that example is awesome

>>10613669
okay, it worked, anon! ty again!
is there anyway to have my user hook text automatically get copied to my clipboard?

>>10615761

>>10593757
It's crazy to me just how different the exact same scene can look vastly different when done by a master vs an intern. Even with a fraction of the available colors they can pull more feeling in the piece.

Take the drowning scene. The original, all the bubbles evoke a sense of panic and show that the girl is struggling to stay alive. The remake, she already looks dead, and the man seems more annoyed than panicked.

>>10615891
How do you post images with sound like that?

>>10615812
Should just be an option in textractor iirc.

Bump, I'm playing OP's game right now and man is the translation absolutely insane.
I'm confident that this line was made up and is nowhere to be seen in the original version.

Bumping

I'll stop there. Bump if you want more.

>>10618985
i always enjoy seeing pc 98 artwork but could you also say what games they're from?

>>10619181
nah, just ctrl f the file names on here: https://www.pc98.org/main.html
Good screenshot website for pc98 games.

I'll post some more, keep the thread on life support.

>>10620951
A-anon...

>>10620974
I can relate, honestly.

>>10606936
she's the mascott of PC98 for me.

>>10619428
ty!

I'm thinking of getting a PC-98, but I'm worried that those magnetic floppy disks have a limited life-span.
Has anyone had any problems with that?

>>10620993
While not the mascot it is funny that most Japanese comments I see tend to remember Lakers as "that series where the boob sizes went CRAZY after the first game"

>>10620951
is this from a real game?
name?

>>10621676
Press this button.

>>10609618
I freaking love tamori wataru's art more than life itself

>>10591330
Well, I got temporarily banned from Twitch for streaming that game. I don't get it, as there wasn't much of sexual content at all.

>>10622223
twitch sucks. there are no good video game streaming platforms. youtube sucks for streaming too. they're all too inconsistent with their rules

>>10622251
Yes.
Oh well, it's not like I had any viewers anyway.

>>10593757
i despise modern anime aesthetics so fucking much bros...

>>10622286
I understand, anon. I won't post the other "remake" bait pics.

>>10624238
nta but i don't mind if you post more comparison pics between original games and remakes. i just like the pc 98 and 88 aesthetics

>>10604148
90's had the best animation/art quality japan ever offered, pretty sure it's somehow related to their economy and budgets back then but i'm no expert

>>10624238
>>10622286
Remake do grow on you?

>>10624238
not sure if someone with a hood or a very racist caricature.

>>10625223
No, but they grow on old video games like a cancer.

>>10591330
Is there a way to convert multi floppy hdm files to a single hdi? I have a couple of patches to apply on a game but one works only in hdm and other in hdi.

>>10625339
You install it.

>>10625484
I'm an idiot. thanks lol.

>>10606936
You can commission him to draw more MegaMilk. Price is 50k Yen.
https://skeb.jp/@Kan_TORI

>>10627581
Yeah, most of the images of her he's done were commission. But his style is different from the 90s these days.

I guess I'll try Animahjong. Starting with V3. Never actually seen people play it, but I guess that makes sense considering what the game is about and how you get it (actually playing mahjong).
Always figured the literal (you) forced the girls to play stripjong, but it was their old man all along. Literal please fuck my daughter story here.

>>10628496
>get 2 ready hands for free (selection of tiles that are 1 away from a winning)
>run her out of points despite them not being worth that much
>just speeds through all the scenes
I assume no points means I actually have to win for every scene? Does this count as easy mode? Cute retard though.

>>10628496
>>10628853
Sorry anon, I never understood how japanese dominoes work.

>>10628881
I expect that anon. It's basically like slightly more complex poker where you have slightly more control and slightly more autistic winning hands.
It's all slightly more. I'm just bumping.

>>10628278
>style is different
It's been more than 20 years ago since the last Lakers series. 31 years since the first Lakers. I played the first one in late 94 or early 95.

>>10628889
Oh, I'm well aware of the passage of time. Heck, even by the early 2000s his style was changing away from the way Lakers looked. I want to say this image here is 2001 ~ 2004? Either way. Funniest part was back then I couldn't even recognize it as the same guy. "Wow, whoever this guy is he sure likes Natsune".

>>10628908
>I couldn't even recognize it as the same guy
You're not the only one. His style change a lot.
BTW, someone commissioned a pic of Narusawa Yui from Doukyuusei 2 a few weeks ago. It's the only Yui pic in Skeb I found.

Yumikasisters...
This game is really short.

>>10629439
There's X Perfect, Mahjong Elegance and Mahjong Sports Line if you want more.

Oh yeah.

>>10609861
How faithful are the PSP versions? I only ever played the first little bit of the first game on PSP back in like, 2010.

>>10609861
Wow I played the steam version and don't remember most of that. I mean, yeah it some weird shit like the bathing scene but not that.

>>10591330
There's a ton but there's no point in sharing if you don't know Japanese

>>10631265
would you mind sharing? i'm learning japanese

DRUNK HAGS
DRUNK HAGS
DRUNK HAGS

Any worthwhile murder mystery VN's that don't rely on 11th hour supernatural plot contrivances?

>>10631332
What level are you? Do you promise not to translate anything?

>>10631553
idk what level but i learn new stuff often.
i'll probably never make translation patches.

>>10609861
This is really missing some of the best parts. I came buckets when one of the girl’s was fucked in a pool and the chad kid who liked her was forced to watch. The ending cg with the shot of the girl’s limp legs had me in diamonds. I also love the fact that all the tomboys have big boobs. And the scene where the main boy gets a double blowjob from his tomboy childhood friend and younger sister was great. The OVA had nice original scenes too. Once that chad kid was holding back a door when the ugly middle aged fatty used his tick to break through the door, aiming his dick right at chad kid's anus and lifted him into the air with his long dick. But we can't forget the double blowjob the main boy gets from his tomboy childhood friend and his little sister. Why do you keep on forgetting https://files.catbox.moe/8wpfo0.jpg?

>>10631553
NTA but it'll be nice to get PC-98 recs for plot heavy ones if possible. I'm probably around ~N2 at this point in terms of reading comprehension.

>>10631553
What's your beef with translations?

RIP thread and RIP me.

>>10632121
EOP weeb scum are unworthy

>>10632121
Nothing. That guy has nothing valuable to say nor actually knows Japanese.

Auto-sage time, I'm surprised the thread lasted so long. Thanks, it was nice.