/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
SUM TING /VR/Y WONG
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/10413464
https://archive.org/details/shadow-warrior-mapping-kit

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
AD MORTEM FINAL CUT (v1.5.6)
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3exnqm8nxg4gukhj10hcp?rlkey=r5nwzu32pfh2dtefpbjy2p49b
Ad Mortem Guns (DECORATE): https://files.catbox.moe/ihv4l4.zip

=== WHEN IT'S DONE ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE 2
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/9941720

=== NEWS ===


[1-03]WRATH: Aeon of Ruin's update that goes over its singleplayer content, improvements and fate of deathmatch.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1000410/view/3904122509826850382

[1-02] Perfect Dark PC port receives WIP netplay support(second link)
https://nightly.link/fgsfdsfgs/perfect_dark/workflows/c-cpp/port?preview
https://nightly.link/fgsfdsfgs/perfect_dark/workflows/c-cpp/port-net?preview

[1-01] Chasm: The Rift entity & weapon pack for Garry's Mod released
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3128742113

[1-01] Anon releases a map for the Quake 2 Remaster
https://twitter.com/Colonthreee/status/1741837792563311069

[12-30] Chex Quest: The Penultimate Breakfast released
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/themes/chex/chextpb

[12-29] Not Even Remotely Fair completed
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/127913

[12-29] MIT student displays Doom in gut bacteria
https://www.golem.de/news/biologie-doom-laeuft-auf-darmbakterien-2312-180291.html

[12-29] BYOC got a GZDoom compatibility update
https://revenatn.itch.io/byoc/devlog/657427/byoc-v15-for-gzdoom

[12-27] Quake 2R Speedmap Jam announced in Nightdive discord

[12-26] Highway Accelleroid Booster 1.1 quietly released
https://terminusest13.itch.io/highway-acceleroid-booster

[12-26] GrezzoDue 2 released
https://youtu.be/mloiLYRums8

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
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>>10578097
TinEye, 0 Results
But I did find this site which has the image along with many other quake 2 images, but no information on this image specifically.
https://dondeq2.com/2020/02/26/planetquake-gamespy-com-planet-quake-picture-of-the-day-archive/

>>10578097
>NO SOURCE OF THIS
looks like a build of the unreleased HacX 2

YOU'RE NOT GETTING AWAY THAT EASILY. IT'S STILL SCREENSHOT SATURDAY! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to keep posting that shit!

>>10578115
>HacX 2
it seems so

http://www.drnostromo.com/hacx/page.php?content=info#h2

>>10578126
http://www.drnostromo.com/hacx/page.php?content=media
this page has a different shot of the same area.

>>10578116
Reposting from previous thread.

>>10578131
if only he was still alive, he could use Q2R expanded assets as base

Maybe its a cancelled HL1 mod?

Is it snowing near any other anons? I'm hitting Winter's Fury as a result. If anybody knows of any weapon mods that have flamethrowers, that'd be nice to know. Or just mention some other winter-y .wads.

>>10578141
It is hacx 2 >>10578131
sadly this will never see daylight

>>10578142
>If anybody knows of any weapon mods that have flamethrowers
Final Doomer's Whitemare set.

>>10578116
Nearly finished with my Malice map, but started obsessing over details and decided to ripoff Doom 3's pipe endcap decals. Turns out they work pretty well in Quake also, even without the shader and dynamic lighting.
Little things go a long way.

>>10578131
What happened to Drnostromo anyway?

Mount Pain elemental

Every time it spits, a copy of TNT Map27 is created in front of it, the rest of the map shifting and expanding to fit the new geometry.

>>10577874
made a doom map with my kid. she drew it on a piece of paper and decided where everything goes. three cacodemons and a bunch of zombiemen.
bare bones, but that's alright

>>10578213
>eternal boomer models
>chaingun spawn features
>face build releases
>tnt used cool pain

>>10578116
Made some progress on two build maps, Daijobu Dojo and untitled ski resort. Remade the starting area and intend to make the map spread between multiple "island" areas connected by bridges or dive sectors and caves. Not sure how I want to incorporate the circular arena at the top, it's begging to be hub and spoke but I never found that layout particularly interesting. Shadow Warrior also has a wall climb feature that will be frequently used with vine sprites (a bit cliche I know) to create parkour areas and other neat stuff.

So I am still playing TNT: Evilution and got past maps 11-15. I had a blast with all five. My favorite of the bunch might be map 13 with map 15 being a close second. My least favorite might be map 12 because its a little too open and has two sections that are optional. The exit to the secret level on map 15 was a bastard to find.

You know how there's projects dedicated to nationalities of certain map makers?
Like France or Russia?
Has there ever been a Portuguese map maker project?

>>10578116
Here's the current revision of the ski resort, I'm nearly half way to the wall and sector limit before the blockout is done. It's going to be a fuck huge map. Progression will involve all keys, the cards will give access to one of three sector path sprite ski lifts (this will be extremely painful to make) and each slope will have it's own standard key along it. There's going to be a bunch of smaller locations throughout as well, like an arcade, gym, pool (pictured) and other stuff before I hit the wall / sector limits.

>>10578250
Portugal isn't real, she's just Brazil's decrepit grandma.

>>10578190
>made a map with my kid
>she

>https://rentry.org/vrbin
>clovr.xyz
>Ricochet

Do you guys really play Ricochet?

>>10578284
We could play Ricochet right now if you want

>>10577890

>>10578305
Thanks for the offer, but right now I'm visiting my family for the holidays, accessing /vr/ from a pc that isn't mine.
Btw I suck at Ricochet, but have very fond memories of playing the game with my friends over LAN, so I'd like to give it a shot ~20 years later.

>>10578258
>Portugal isn't real
Look at a fucking map of the Earth next time, ya fool.

>>10578097
Uh, why was my post deleted? What the fuck?

>>10578345
Racist mods. They also deleted the John Romero Appreciation General because supoorting John for supporting trans rights triggered them, being the nazis they are.

Ricochet makes me think of a 2000s Tron Sequel that could have been that made use of 3D computer graphics from the mid-late 1990s, especially when I look at the official screenshots.

>>10578342
>>10578345
That's been the name of the project since before the earthquake, pls undastan

>>10578318
Dang, maybe sometime in the future then. Probably won't catch it as quickly the next time, but shout if you wanna play it.
>Btw I suck at Ricochet
Well it is a party game, after all.

>>10578351
It's actually pretty fun. It's when Monolith were on a roll again after faceplanting with Blood 2 and Shogo.

>>10578368
Blood 2 was the faceplant definitely. Shogo was more of a poor-to-mediocre at best implementation of a great idea, I M O.

>>10578374
Actually yeah, you're right. It deserves more credit. I was thinking of the crits too much.
It, Shadow Warrior and Heavy Gear 2 were part of a very special fun time. I should also try Oni some day.

>>10578374
Shogo pulled some pretty neat tricks off for the time with getting the faked scale to mostly feel right.

Just as well Monolith's stuff will never see light of day with who ultimately owns the IPs now.

>>10578385
>Heavy Gear 2
That did some neat stuff but a lot of the weapons had way less impact than they did in the first game.
>I should also try Oni some day.
If you can get it running, it's a decent if weird experience.

>Played Sigil 2
>E6M2 generated a caco vs caco infight
>E6M9 generated an imp vs imp infight

Fuck you haters, this is the best wad ever.

>>10578131
add HacX 2 to the list of things trend-hopping youtubers can read off in a creepy voice in a lost media video

>>10578408
Anon i would love to see HacX 2 finished using modern tools and possibly Q2R code.

the new AI would make stuff like the Cobra choppers there aggressive as fuck

>updating Windows 10
>"But I don't want to upd..."
>updates anyways
>try to run gzdoom
>Execution could not continue. R_OPENGL: OpenGL driver not accelerated!

I hate Windows 10 so fucking much.

>>10578385
>>10578389
>Oni
Got it running on Win 10 with the Anniversary Edition mod.
https://wiki.oni2.net/Anniversary_Edition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uj15hjhOTg

>>10578443
LOOK AT THIS SHIT
I AM FUCKING PLAYING DOOM YOU COCKSUCKER
I'M DOING IMPORTANT SHIT

>>10578443
>be retarded techlet faggot
>don't even know how to disable automatic updates from the settings menu
>uhhg, like, i just hate windows 10!!!

>>10578252
nice.

>>10578451
At least it tells you.
I had the situation a few times lately when it was nagging for updates and I wouldn't do it, so it would suddenly and surprisingly just throw a BSOD and restart. Of course not to install updates :^)

>>10578389
>That did some neat stuff but a lot of the weapons had way less impact than they did in the first game.
Now I might try to get the first one running considering how much I liked Heavy Gear 2. It was also a Christmas gift, pretty fun seeing all the mechs get Santa caps.
>>10578445
Very useful.

I'm having a miserable time on map 33 of Eviternity 2, is this being getting old feels like?

>>10578493
Are you playing on Nightmare?

>>10578495
No?

>>10578493
Is that the rhythm game map? It's kind of hellish but individual parts aren't that bad if you run backwards to get more time. It took me two tries. I recommend savescumming to get as far as you can, then restart and use your acquired skills to get as long of a lead as possible in the easy early sections. The finale is not doable without slowing down a lot.

>>10578508
It is. The, I assume, last part takes so fucking long I always mess up.

>>10578493
>map 33 of Eviternity 2
that map is really not for everyone, it's absolutely not for me.

>>10578149
>hits pipe

IM GONNA SING THE DOOM SONG NOW.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qPPHt7djMw

Rank the suits.

>>10578610
classic = q3a/thps3 > 64 > 2016 > 3 (with helmet) > 3 (without helmet) > eternal > champions

>>10578284
We could, but I can't imagine that people would be up for it. The game isn't even really bad, but it's INCREDIBLY plain and basic, almost no depth or variety.

>>10578452
I know how to do that and I have done it, and I still hate Windows 10. We're far away from the greatness that was Windows 7.

>>10578702
That's why Windows 7 was my last Windows before migrating to Linux.

>>10577703 #
>guncaster's pistol or DAKKA's plasma and
Ooo, that sounds nice , never heard of them, lemme look them up. Are those the name of the project?

>>10578694
If Ricochet has million fans, then I'm one of them
If Ricochet has one fan, then I'm THAT ONE
If Ricochet has no fans, that means I'm dead

Man I hate how position and offsets work with weapon sprites. I want to make a melee weapon made from two overlays (one being the hand, the other being the blade) and have them rotate around an exact common middle point where blade meets hand. Anyone tried something like that?

>>10578708
https://allfearthesentinel.com/zandronum/download.php?file=dakka-1.0.pk3

Is dsda doom worth it or should I just go with prboom+ for that vanilla experience?
I always used GZ for years and watching a video with dsda I realized I like its aesthetics much more.

>>10578734
it's no biggie, but DSDA will play more modern .wads.

>>10578734
DSDA, Woof, and Nugget all do what PrBoom+ does but with bug fixes, superior features, and MBF21 compat.

>>10578734
prboom preserves bugs that even purists don't like and has that godawful default midi synth that isn't even necessarily period-authentic
DSDA for the most barebones experience with some options for more info on the HUD, Woof or Nugget for more options like blue/green blood for cacos and barons

It really looks better. Thanks anons

>>10578778
Would you mind posting a comparison in a common spot? That doesn't look unlike gzdoom to me, but that's because I've tweaked a lot of the garbage default settings.

>>10578794
I tried tinkering around a bit as well but I am not really into it.

>>10578443
>Windows 10
This is probably an Intel problem.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/89445-gzdoom-21-opengl-driver-not-accelerated/

>MIDI music can't be go-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34SBJRHV9sU

>>10578801
I think your light mode is fucked maybe. Does indeed look worse.

>>10578810
I don't think you'll even find that many zoomers who'll say that if it's one who has passing familiarity with old games.

>>10578801
I usually play it like this. Ambient occlusion (the corner darkening) may be a little divisive but I enjoy it.

>>10578810
This one's good, but I have yet to find a MIDI track that can surpass Goin' Down the Fast Way (especially with a good soundfont).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Udj9YZUzmM&t=655s

>lost media because unoriginal lolcows

>>10578778
DSDA-Doom is also my favorite port.
I'm using the custom hud and I really like that you can hide the total kills/items/secrets counts until you reach them. It's the best of both worlds, I want to know when I killed all the monsters but I don't want to be spoiled with a counter.

>>10578869
By the way, if you don't want to use the custom hud, you can also use this "smart" counter in the automap.

>>10578810
>>10578837
We already have proof that MIDIs sound good from vanilla Doom anyway.

>>10578849
Speaking of soundfonts, does anyone know which one got used in this particular video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX_Kb0cDN98

>>10578610
Doom
Doom 64
Doom 3
Quake 3/ Tony Hawk
Doom 2016
Doom Eternal
Quake Champions

>>10578493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPcVRuq0fwA

>>10578097
For those who didnt saw since quakewulf liked this only at id and nightdive discord
https://twitter.com/Colonthreee/status/1743753051679203745
https://twitter.com/Colonthreee/status/1743766536056119805
https://twitter.com/Colonthreee/status/1743773505831731362


can anyone do a texture replacer from it, the link is at gamebanana

>>10578610
Why is QC
A: only represented by one of the suits?
B: Represented by the very last suit you unlock?

>>10578610
I like this slightly updated take on the Eternal armor here. My only complaint is I don't like the wristblade. Never have.

>>10578992
My dumb ass forgot to post the image.

>>10578190
>she

>>10578116
Working on a lightning sword. Thinking hard about how to do vertical swings.

i finally got around to deathmatch dimension. was a blast, really loved it.

>>10579017
I'm not sure if it's an option for you, but I did vertical swings for this hammer by having the arms fade out

How often do you play new wads vs. replaying old ones that you enjoyed?

holy shit this blows. map08 is atrocious.

>>10579039
Hey, that's a pretty clever idea. I can do the fading with a shader I think. I'll keep it in mind as an option. The "blade" itself is a concern though, probably I'll have to push the corners of the sprite layer surface around some so it appears to extend out into the world.

>>10579047
If all else fails, you could really stylize it into just a bolt of blue that slashes downwards.

>>10578116
I'm late to this. Been dragging my feet on finishing up this damned thing. Been more preoccupied about what to do for GMOTA's tenth birthday on the 13th, I'd like to do some art to commemorate it.

>>10578142
>Is it snowing near any other anons?
lol

>>10578142
The Blastmaster set from Combined_Arms has a flamethrower.

>>10579053
Looks fantastic. Man, that one frame right before the wings extend fully makes a huge difference.

>>10578213
>lol effort

>>10579046
What wad?

>>10579042
99% of the time I spend playing DOOM, I'm playing a new wad.

>>10578451
I never in my entire life had this happening to me, I don't know what people do with windows

>>10578732
oh thank god it's in DECOR
thanks anon ill see what i can cook up with this!
The character behind the lever action weapon is an angel, lighting makes sense wrath of god blah blah.
For BFG I want a do a "ricochet coinflip" similar to the coin in Ultrakill. Assume I can make an actor hitbox that spawns and dies in the projectile and has damage.death states to spawn the mega projectile. If not altfire may be a blackhole. Coin might be fun to combo with other weapons.

>>10579042
I avoid having default wads because you end up limiting yourself by going through the same thing again and again.
>>10579076
It's decorate but also leans heavily on ACS because Ijon is some kind of ACS sorcerer.

>>10579069
the one in the pic

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/133295-boom-the-diseases-and-casualties-this-year-being-1632-11-maps-v11/

>>10579086
seems so, still i can use the sprites and some bits here. Thanks again anon.

>>10578116
No girls allowed

>>10578142
Does that weapon come with Winter's Fury?
>>10578149
Post wad anon?

what happened with the quake hams?

>>10579106
>*jams

>>10579108
>>10579106
which

>>10579110
the ones that are not being made

>>10579113
here or anywhere? ill just answer.

mjolnir while not a jam is on hold probably until they get more maps done since they have like 8/72 with their demo but to be honest they should just get those bugfix patches out asap because right now there's zero reason to use keep as a mapper or modder with all the bugs it currently has

violent rumble 2, there's like 2-3 mappers still plugging, one of them is doing a wh40k cathedral the other is doing some desert thing. one of them has some sick person in their family so he's lagging it. the head of vr2 teased some alternate version of the scourge of armagon laser cannon that rapidly fires missiles but hasn't posted on it since

there's a quake 2 jam going on right now on a quake 2 mapping discord

>>10579106
I don't know, I've only ever seen HL2 hams.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxGDweqSjJI

>>10578847
This looks pretty nice, what are the settings?

>>10579141
Vulkan renderer
"None (trilinear)" texture filter mode, 16x anisotropic
No high quality resize garbage
"Software" sector light mode (this one is pretty important, the old default light mode is particularly garbage)
Ambient occlusion turned on and set to high

>>10579150
For some reason I feel like vanilla doom wads (and generally, older wads with low details) look much better with software mode and low res. The graininess helps hide the simple geometry and my brain makes up details that aren't there.
If I had to use full res and GL, though, all the goodies like SSAO and anisotropic filtering are critical because the high-res fullbright look is godawful.

>>10579172
I think cramped, grungy low-light environments can look really nice and moody when things are low res and grainy, but bright or large and open ones look much better in GL.

am i imagining this or does the end of the level looks like cthulu before the portal opens

>>10579228
What map?

>>10579150
Nice, "None (trilinear)" seems to smear the enemy sprites, so I guess I'll that on None, but the rest is nice.
Also what are your settings for classic transparency?
I remember a while ago someone was talking about what was the damn setting that made it so that doomguy would emit light, do you know what that is? I should've fixed that back when some anon posted about it but I forgot.

>>10579234
that pic was from E3M6

also this this one from E1M2 looks kind of like a face/skull

>>10579228
It looks a bit like him, but maybe that's cause I read you comment before looking at the pic.

>>10579256
You're drunk.

>>10579228
>>10579256
You're definitely onto something

>>10578993
Chief, you mind telling me what you're doing on that anniversary image

>>10579278
>...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqWuJIZ5A6o

>>10579278
that's not master chef, that's predator

What cooler alt fire, homing micro missiles. Second exploding sticky grenade?

the coolest alt-fire is holding your gun sideways

>>10579307
The secondary sicky grenade had more utility than the autoshotgun mode unfortunately. But between sticky grenade and micro missiles? Micro missiles.

Mom says I can’t alt fire black anymore.:(

>>10579312
Don't say that or you'll be legally obligated to play some Monster Hunt right now

i really hate trying to figure out what exactly i'm supposed to do in a map sometimes. like some stuff is just way too cryptic.

>>10579335
What ails you anon? Specifically I mean what map what thing

>>10579342
Austrian Avian Association has a map where to raise the stairs you need to find a key and pass over a trigger and also shoot and kill one specific enemy that does not aggro to you and is located in a tower that is far away enough that it's difficult to even see it's there.

Final map of Hell Ground you have to fire rockets into something after activating a switch, but it's kind of buggy and you have to fire your rocket in a specific direction to actually trigger whatever is happening.

Also really don't like the switch hunts in areas where there are way too many enemies to conceivably even kill them with the ammo provided, this seems kind of ubiquitous but it happens a lot in Scythe2 from my memory.

>>10579312
A rapid fire micro missile launcher which you hold sideways to launch stickybombs with as altfire.

>>10579353
I won't lie, the only one that sounds lame is the middle example.

>>10579307
An altfire that fires angry bees.

>>10579369
cough turok

>>10579369
>please choose manual or automatic transmission

>>10579367
That's reasonable, I just get easily frustrated when I feel like I have no idea what the level designer actually expects me to do. It feels bad to spend an hour trying to figure something out and giving up and finding some playthrough on youtube to find out what I should have done.
With the first example, I feel confident that I would never have seen the enemy you are supposed to shoot without looking it up. It was a partially transparent lost soul, and even then I think that's the first and only time in the entire wad it was necessary to kill an enemy to trigger progress.

>>10579392
Treasure Tech being GZDoom-only really rashes up my nuggets and I'll die angry and curious every night wondering if it's just cuz of that damn upgrade menu.

>>10579458
He makes use of other fancy GZDoom features for bullet tracers and other effects. I don't blame him. Having to do increasingly stupid gross hacks for what SHOULD be a simple feature can get tiresome. Sometimes it's better to just say "Fuck it" and use newer GZDoom for your own sake.

>>10579458
Building a ZScript interpreter for your port of choice would be a better use of your time.

>>10579462
When the end result is something that I come back to less because I can't use it with a multiplayer-capable sourceport like Zan or Odamex, I can still find it regrettable nonetheless.
>>10579473
Why would I do that when GZDoom 4.12 will launch with Client/Server netcode, right
Right?

>>10579484
I still question my own efforts for Zandronum compatibility on my own work, I'm actually never 100% certain how well my shit plays online.
Zandronum offline and Zandronum online are effectively two different entities so you're pulling double duty when developing with that shit in mind. Triple if you're also working with ZDoom/GZDoom compat.

I also don't even think Treasure Tech was designed with co-op or multiplayer in mind at all.

>>10579316
Yeah feel like mini sounds cooler. Making autoshotgun either focus into a sticky or barrage of minis. Gonna go for the latter

>>10579369
SOLD! living energy crystals close enough?

>>10579490
Yeah, but then I and many others get way more usage out of it even if it ends up totally borked online while working perfectly fine offline. Doom Fighters is still unfinished and repeatedly breaks all sound if you do the wrong attack online, and I still play that occasionally because of the enjoyment that comes from running through halls with a group of brawlers.

The same would go for Treasure Tech and a bunch of Warios, even if the tackle charge somehow broke textures every time you hit something or you had to desperately avoid the bee gun specifically because shooting it crashed the server. It's not like the work isn't appreciated nevertheless, nor is the onus necessarily on the modder as it should be on sourceport devs, but the opportunity cost persists regardless

So pull the duty or pull my dooky lol

>>10579507
At this point, you may want to consider picking up the modding tools yourself and make gameplay mods you want to see for Zandronum. It'd be good to see more people making stuff for it. Because at this point it's pretty much BYOC, Kar En Tuk I think, Mega Man 8 bit deathmatch, and my own shit.

>>10579513
luv you kegan <3

>>10579513
Can't. Too busy playing Unreal Tournament. You do it for me.

>>10579523
>>10579507
>It's another faggot complains and decides not to do anything about his complaints Classic FPS Thread episode
Hate reruns

>>10579507
Based on your posts I've concluded that your bar for what constitutes quality is so low that I hope you never make anything because it'd immediately drown in the sea of half-assed-but-at-least-they-work mods, all limited by the engine they were made for, with all the issues that come from the hundreds of clums second grade workarounds that everyone in this community seems to adore. If you forgo the ability to produce something stable and complex for the ability to play in what boils down to a graveyard of a source port, just for the sake of muh multiplayer, you might just be hopeless. Players like you are the absolute worst, more so because you expect people to do what YOU want on the source port that YOU want and get angry when they naturally tell you to fuck off.

>>10579529
I didn't decide anything. I was always going to do nothing. Does the sun decide to shine?
>>10579530
>what boils down to a graveyard of a source port
Graf please

>>10579538
>I didn't decide anything. I was always going to do nothing. Does the sun decide to shine?
Same anon, that was pretty based I gotta say. Found a pic of you.

>>10579538
>Graf's Law invoked
I declare my victory.

>>10579538
He's not wrong. Zandronum isn't exactly a thriving sourceport. Though you should reconsider your decision to not do anything about this. Creation will always be more gratifying than consumption.

>>10579540
Whoa, where'd you get that picture of me totally working on my Serious Case of /vr/ map
>>10579541
But we weren't playing together, anon. There was no multiplayer!

>>10579105
>Post wad anon?
It will come with the map, though obviously it's in Malice's color palette, so it probably won't look great in regular Quake which has half the greys.
If you really just want the pipe cap texture, here you go.

>>10579546
>Creation will always be more gratifying than consumption.
They go hand in hand with something like this. I wish I had more time to host multiplayer games for Doom and its ilk because creating a location for people to enjoy consuming old, classic multiplayer goodness is valuable in its own right. I think you should revise that to
>Creation will always be more gratifying than griping

>>10579546
Oh, it's definitely not wrong. Even if they did have robust and active development that was pumping out pulls on the reg, one can't escape the fact that ports like Odamex and Zandronum are inherent walking corpses in terms of how you can trace their fork lineage back to veritably ancient versions of ZDoom. Many would make that point, but not everyone would use that rhetoric, and you know the kind of person/crowd you're dealing with when they're talking like that.
>creation will always be more gratifying than consumption
But I'm not consuming. I'm complaining, and by god that's the most gratifying thing on this mother Earth

>>10579571
>I'm complaining, and by god that's the most gratifying thing on this mother Earth

>>10579571
Then I'm gonna side with what that other guy said above you:
>Creation will always be more gratifying than griping
Because the path Term had put me down like 11 years ago has shaped me into a better person.

>>10579583
>[Creating] has shaped me into a better person
Complaining has shaped me into the best person

>>10579484
So far the only thing the 4.12 betas have accomplished is breaking the title screen for Highway Acceleroid Booster.

>>10579585
I think we're done here.

>>10579587
I like that wad. I just wish I had an easier time finding map wads that complimented it. Feels like it wasn't to be way more open and jumpy than others similarly based around (air) dashes and wall jumps like like Demonsteele.

Without being too negative in a way that would necessitate a "be the change you want to be" response, I miss the Ghouls vs Humans games. Those were a ball and a half.

>>10579597
*wants to be
Fingers become their own autocorrect when it becomes late, I swear
>>10579598
Wouldn't that be easy to set up with TSPG? I've actually never touched the gamemode myself, but I've wanted to check it out after hearing a lot about it. This Sunday might be good since the SNS is dead I was half-planning on doing some Quake/Half-Life deathmatch out of happenstance, but that'd be good too

>>10579603
>SNS is dead
Again? I thought the server was rented for another year.

>>10579605
I'm pretty sure it was stated in the last thread with it that the guy hosting it currently was only doing it until the year was out, and that the one who re-upped their server for another year was the SRB2K host. Might be wrong though: memory of a goldfish.

>>10579606
I've been out of the loop anyway since I work weekends so I miss out on literally everything good in this world and I hate it.
>Wouldn't that be easy to set up with TSPG?
I'd say so if TSPG has the mod. It was really fun, it eclipsed Megaman Deathmatch's popularity completely for a good year or so in its heyday. I'd join if I could but like I just said I'll be working in fact I gotta sleep goodnight /doom/

>>10578213
>Zombieman archvile
>Holy heal laser
>Love animations
>Baron fucked outside
>Soul comes deep

>>10579610
Well if you got sometime in the week you wanna play it, shout if you can and I'll try to be there if you need players or a host. We'll do it right after the Ricochet session.

How does zandy corruption cards work? Does everyone vote and majority chooses the card that goes into effect?

Hive hand is a great weapon and I’m tired of pretending it’s not.

>>10579652
I'd say Half-Life's gunplay overall is too poor for it to really matter, but yeah the Hivehand aint particularly bad out of the bunch. People certainly don't seem to expect it to be as cromulent as it is in multiplayer. Ganghaps it's just frowned upon because the way it works inadvertently shines the most light on the failings of Half-Life's shooting.

>>10579652
I don't use it much outside of defusing the Nihilanth's teleport balls.
I like Opposing Force's Shockroach better as an infinite ammo alien gun.

>>10579671
I do like shock roach project look but u like the homing bees.I also love the needler from halo1 I want a mix of three. Homing shock organic crystal

>>10579636
one player gets randomly picked to choose the card at the start of each map

>>10579652
agreed

Rarely happens but wish mods include a cool melee weapon. Ricochet machete or retrieving axe.

You guys got any fav fist/chainsaw replacement?

>finally try Alien World Order
>it's a bunch of annoying arenas
>-_-

>>10578610
Each of them are good or decent for what they're. Would still say that original is better than 64's. THPS is nearly (if not fully) identical to Arena, which is fine. Don't care much about DOOM 3's suit. 16 & Eternal are fine.
Champions is hard to judge due to its cosmetic nature, especially since there's no unique skin for Doomguy there. I'll say that I like his face for the classic suit much more than Eternal's in-game face that loses even to its own concept art.

>>10578970
Fuck, this looks nice.

>>10579964
doesn't seem like he baked the bump maps

does eternity engine allow crouching?

Breadtank.

>>10578970
>>10579964
>>10579972
I am using Arghrad and haven't had much time to test things out yet, but apparently there is no normals to bake.
However, this has so far proved to me that the Quake 2 Strogg are perfectly suited the Quake 4-level textures, and look even better than the Quake 4-versions in the Remaster with the glowmaps.
I am working on a delivery for GDC so I will not have much more time for this until then.

Just release a texture replacement pak for vanilla at this rate
https://twitter.com/Colonthreee/status/1743986706473250938

>>10579992
pas de pain
pas de gain

>Finishing testing the long map
>Final battle
>Spider mastermind is somehow missing from the room
Explain this, eggheads.

>>10579996
With the new dynamic lites in the Remaster, the improved shading on the models, and the overall look, this manages to impress me more than Quake 4 in comparison.

>>10580005
You didn't make it appear in the chosen difficulty

>>10580010
Wrong.

No news from waifu wad? Also, i was thinking of starting a doom project, the idea is to get the original doom 2 maps, remove the map geometry and keep the monster placement so you have to build a map around that

>>10580029
I had this idea, could be fun.

>>10580029
oh that sounds very interesting

>>10580035
>>10580041
also, if i do this, should i keep item placement too?

>>10580046
>should i keep item placement too?
I would.

>>10579254
>Nice, "None (trilinear)" seems to smear the enemy sprites
are you using an intel gpu under windows?
the intel drivers suck ass: in both gzdoom and ironwail I can only use GL_NEAREST because all the other GL_NEAREST_MIPMAP_SOMETHING filtering modes would result in filtering being applied to the whole texture, not only to the generated mipmap

I warned gzdoom/vkdoom devs about this, since both engines default to vulkan now
obviously they can't do nothing, it's on intel drivers developers
tgk4st

>>10580060
>are you using an intel gpu under windows?
Yep.

>>10579369

can you set a key to the shotgun in gzdoom?
(I want shotgun and supershotgun in separate keys)

>>10580070
or a mod that allowed me to double tap 3

>>10580070
You can make a mod for that, or possibly mess with the engine code files. I don't think it has a setting for it by default.

>>10578610
Doom > Quake 3 Arena > Tony Hawk's > Quake Champions >Doom 3 > DOOM > Doom 64 >>> DOOM Eternal

>>10578190
based father sharing a passion with his kid. you sir are an excellent human being.

>>10580070
>can you set a key to the shotgun in gzdoom?
Choose a key, open the console:
>bind KEY "use shotgun"
For the supershotgun:
>bind KEY "use supershotgun"
You can do the same to separate the fist from the chainsaw.

>>10578101
"Four Base" my incompletable techdemo showing off Quake 4 in Quake 2 is now released (due to no time until I am done with GDC), and can be loaded down from here:
https://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/maps/fourbase.zip

Be aware it is not able to complete this map, and it requires the Quake 4-textures from GameBanana. I have added the .map-file so you can play around with it if you want. Related Twitters here:
https://vxtwitter.com/Colonthreee/status/1744012704728183163

>>10580106
it doesn't work, I'm trying to play elementalism btw

>>10578851
Meh.

>>10580108
Looks quite cool, though I'm getting 'rat map' vibes from the screenshot so I'm going to try this myself soon.
>>10580131
>I'm trying to play elementalism btw
Oh you're playing something that mods the gameplay.
The mod author renamed the shotgun in that as 'eshotgun' so:
>bind KEY "use eshotgun"
Just tested through 4.11.1
You can do this with any other gameplay mod but you'll have to figure out what the mod author named the weapon slots.

>>10580108
if source is included, let the anons including br anon play it a bit
I think even the old prefabs at https://www.quaddicted.com/webarchive/prefab.planetquake.gamespy.com/quake2/q2doors.shtml may look great in it

>>10580176
thank you so fucking much, anon
I don't know why he changed it, it's the same shotgun
maybe all weapons derive from the player object, I don't know about doom modding
liked this map a lot, very unreal/turok

am i missing something in barrels o' fun? i can't get past the room with the pain elementals, i don't have enough ammo/time to kill them before they pollute the room and if i try running past them i get swarmed by demons

since voxel enemies are a thing, do you think it's possible to have sprites than can be looked from above and below?

>>10578408
fucking hate those, stupid motherfuckers ranting about how creepy it is to be alone in a hl1dm/gmod/hl2 map - grow a pair faggots.
I mean it's nice to discover lost prototypes but the way they narrate it and the clickbait thumbnails just make me wanna puke
>>10578131
>>10578115
HacX 1 was pretty terrible, so the sequel would probably be a curiosity at most. Maybe some elements of 1 were good, like setpieces (metro train) and some of the enemy buffs (but not the terminatrix) were fun - doom2 monsters beefed up a little bit like an imp that sends chain of fireballs and not just one, would work as a nice dehacked gameplay mod.

>>10580194
Is this a pistol start? You'll have to pull through with the chaingun.

>>10580205
yeah i've been pistol starting most maps (any where i couldn't beat it in the first try) and i've been able to manage it so far but this one just seems impossible

>>10578810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW8U-e4NmnE
listen to this, nigga

>>10580108
>>10580176
I think it's just that circle-hole-thing floor texture that's messing with me. This is fantastic.

>>10578610
Quake Champions - The way I'd picture the original Doomguy in modern times, slick and simple
v
Quake III/ Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 - Cool grungy looking, very 90's
v
Doom 64 - A slightly more stylized version of the original, I like the blue visor and the antenna
v
Classic Doom - It's a generic military outfit, but it's the original, so it deserves to be in the middle
v
v
v
Doom 3 - Doom? More like Drab
v
Doom 2016 - An overdesigned mess
v
v
v
Doom Eternal - Overdesigned AND painfully edgy

>>10580198
Yeah it's possible in GZDoom either through a significant bit of scripting or some tricky GL shader work. Not reasonable for vanilla enemies, but can be done if you render a new one out from Blender. I tried it ages ago in zandro by having each enemy be a vertical sprite sheet, and the shader offset the UV coordinates depending on camera angle (I could only do it per pixel which is wrong, rather than common world origin because I didn't know how to retrieve that value).

fuck

>>10580182
Yes, the .map is in the .zip, so go ahead and do what you must.

>>10580228
Everything is 1:1-scale with Quake 2. There is a texture set that is 200% due to higher resolution, but I made it "fit" the original layout. It is a big hallway, and the crate is quite big too.

What do the numbers mean on the medkit in Hideous Destructor? Like 0.0/0.0/0.0 ? the multicolored ones?
I've checked the manual but come up empty.

>>10580228
Wait, you are correct. The floor-textures are supposed to be 50% of the size.
Oh well, some other time...

>>10578610
Classic armor - 9/10 No black gloves.
D64 armor - 10/10 It will be always my favorite design
Q3 armor - 7/10 Nice remake of the classic one, no helmetless alt. tho
D3 armor - 8/10 Different from the classic but the marine looks badass
D16 armor - 4/10 Too halo-ish and boring
QC armor - 10/10 I don't mind the additions but it's faithful to the Doom 1's coveart design.
Eternal armor - 1/10 Fucking retarded

>>10580292
>>10580228
>>10580108
I've updated the .ZIP to have the correct texture-scale for the floor.

is there a way to disable the clusterfuck that is the """simple""" menu of vkdoom?

>>10580287
The number is the size of the wound, and I think it roughly corresponds to how much that wound reduces your max HP by. Red is the amount that's open and bleeding, yellow is bandaged, and grey is sealed. There's usually some inaccuracy to the scan, so don't be surprised by oddities like that negative bandaged amount.

>>10580292
It's still all absolutely beautiful and that floor seems to be an easy ch- >>10580317 oh there we go.
Well damn, another morning off with Q2. I think I'm going to finally finish this jam before maybe trying some other classic maps.

>>10580329
Thanks anon. Any tips for getting over lava without a bio suit?

Do you retards think circlejerking on codex will change the consensus on HL?

>>10580364
go back

>>10580371
Not until you rpg faggots stop seething over valve games.
Grow up already.

>>10580346
If you use a stim, it should be feasible to repeatedly jump to avoid damage with the right timing. The boosted HP regen will help mitigate any damage that you do take. Try to use vertical jumps to maximize airtime.

>>10579652
When I picked it up I saw the 8 ammo count and thought "ok, it's a superweapon" and proceeded to never use it and forget about it
If I knew how relatively short the lambda core was I probably would've also used the gluon gun more instead of peekaboo shotgunning grunts
>>10579671
>defusing the Nihilanth's teleport balls
what what
WHAT

William Gee made a compilation of all his Duke3D maps into one mod, It's pretty neat, especially the latest map "Lady Killer"
>https://www.moddb.com/mods/wg-mega-pack

>>10580310
>>10580332
whoops wrongly you'd
>>10580398
>has a version supporting Alien Armageddon
That's crazy

What sourceport to use to play heretic?
Woof doesn't support heretic

This mastermind better be working the way I hope it does, lmao.

>>10580463
Crispy or Chocolate Heretic or Russian Heretic.

>>10579063
Oh shit. Good to know. I'm surprised it doesn't make it into more weapon sets. Seems like a good weapon for murdering waves of demons.

>>10579062
Sorry anon. My snow turned to rain eventually too so now it's snowy out with a little ice on top. could be worse. It LOOKS wintery though at least.

>>10580465
I friggin hate the Mastermind. Getting him to come outta the closet is a real pain

>>10579105
It does come with the weapon in the pic. It's Winter's Fury. I think there is a separate file somewhere if you just want the weapons, just not included with the original download so you'd probably have to google it.

>>10580494
Here it's not supposed to be stuck in a closet, just sit there and gun down the bridge until it dies, at which point teleport destinations it was blocking with its body becomes available and flood the very same bridge with more monsters.

If it doesn't work out, I'll just put some monsters at the start, but I'll be salty I didn't get to use the mastermind again.

>>10579484
>when GZDoom 4.12 will launch with Client/Server netcode, right
They've been telling themselves for years that Zandronum would cave in and somehow fold their shit into GZDoom, for a bunch of programmers they've got weirdly unrealistic ideas about that working.
>>10579597
I found it went ok with Equinox + Yholl's enemies robot mod that I forget the name of.

>>10580465
>peekaboo on a narrow bridge to advance to the SM, probably getting shot at from the sides
Wow, how original and fun.

>>10580381
Gotcha. Just got blasted like seven times in the side by a shotgunner while prone, used a stimpack, a berserk kit so I wouldn't die and then beat his ass to a pulp, its been like three minutes, I drank a potion and the berserk still hasn't worn off and oddly enough i'm losing blood fast, as fast as the blood bags help. No bleeding however?

>>10580507
Welp I died. Not big surprise.

>>10578101
>>10580398

>>10580498
That's a neat idea. I know the trickle-in on death thing is common, but using the mastermind to block a whole mess of them is a cool twist on that. Might steal that for a halloween mod and have the mastermind "spawn" arachnotrons on death like a brood mother.

>>10580507
I don't know the numbers but using a berserk pack gives you tons of wounds and blood loss, either have multiple soulspheres in your bloodstream or moon jump over to the exit switch, the berserk (and post-zerk crash) will wear off and the passive healing in between levels will heal most of it

also might have dropped dead from a heart attack, stims shouldn't be used less than 5 minutes apart from other drugs

>>10580507
Never apply a blood bag right after a stim or especially zerk, adapting to the synthetic blood fucks with your ability to stabilize your heartrate. Use potions and wait it out if you need to regen blood during zerk.

>>10570501
water monsters

>>10580507
Are you sure you didn't hit comedown? Zerk lasts 3-4 minutes depending on your heartrate, and then you have to deal with a 5 minute comedown which can kill you if you do the wrong things. Ideally you want to have healed as much wounding as you can before comedown, because you'll need all the max HP you can get, but if you use stims after comedown starts you should be able to survive even with a decent amount of injury.

>>10580529
Bloodbag and stim is fine, good even because the stamina regen from the stim will override the penalty from the bloodbag. It should even be okay to have a bloodbag in during comedown as long as you are also using a stim. Two stims basically guarantees that you'll survive comedown, as long as enemies don't find you.

Here are all the doom 2 maps without the geometry, only the things are placed. In case I or anyone else decides to host this project >>10580029
https://files.catbox.moe/rvp7ap.zip

>>10578610
10/10 classic
7/10 boba fet
2/10 not a fan of chest armor or helmet
4/10 same model+skateboard
6/10 y2k armor aged better
4/10 too halo
5/10 not fan of arm, top, shoulder
7/10 too ancient Viking bullshit I like ther arms

>>10580485
It's a hard kind of weapon to get to work satisfactorily even if you make it simple. I'm working on one that's a bit excessive on the code side but does some cool stuff. I really want it to behave like it shoots thick sticky napalm that splashes if you hit something close by but sticks at longer range when the pressure is lower.

>>10580592
>check out how hard I can pee

>>10578101
Simpler Times for Duke 3D released

https://www.moddb.com/mods/simpler-times

>>10580592
>>10580604
and now the flowers will grow

>>10580604
>>10580629

The snow levels in Eveternity 1 and 2 are so bad that they singlehandedly ruin the megawad and the person who decided that slippery ice physics were a good idea deserves to be fucking lynched.

>>10580645
>person who decided that slippery ice physics were a good idea deserves to be fucking lynched.
At some point in the 90s and early 00s, every single platformer HAD to have an ice level with stupid ice physics. For some reasons this bled out onto some shooters.
Outlaws has an awful level that's full of ice, it's the worst level on that game, thankfully it's one of the bonus levels (the only one I never finished) and has nothing to do with the main campaign.

>>10580645
The basic thing many/all games miss with ice (and water levels) is they fail to give you an item like ice skates that turn an annoyance into fun mechanic. Emphasis on making it seem less like a complete downgrade, and more another movement style that has its own quirks to learn.

>>10580672
>Outlaws has an awful level that's full of ice
Which was there because Dark Forces had it as a mechanic and they just had to reuse it.

>>10580685
Dark Forces also had an item that negated the ice bullshit, why didn't they reuse that as well?

>>10580592
What are you using to get those sparks so eye-searingly bright? I'd like my bullets to look like that, right now they're plain sprite trails

>>10580672
quake 2 64 has some ice inside a cave

yeap, it's doomin time

>>10580690
"AddShaded" blending and bloom turned on. if you do this you can also crank the alpha up past 1.0 and it'll sort of overbloom.

>>10580615
I hate that urban settings in Build look so kino and completely ass in Doom. The latter could do with more urban maps for sure.

>>10580690
Also, for fast tracer type bullets you can use a 3D model.
https://pastebin.com/RvtZdk7T
paste that into a text file and name it "tracermodel.obj" or whatever.
Put this in your modeldef:
https://pastebin.com/cEdkRmMt

Then finally in your decorate or zscript code, you
1) call A_FaceMovementDirection
2) add or subtract 90 from the actors pitch
2) set scale.x to the radius you want and scale.y (aka length) to its speed.

>>10580721
Isn't that due to the textures?

>>10580745
More like the pixel scaling. Urban maps just feel more realistic in Build scale-wise.

how the fuck do I kill this

>>10580615
>Simpler Times reflects the story – with how Duke was The Hero back in the day, when everything was much more simple and straightforward
>Duke was The Hero
>back in the day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4zdDXPYo0I

>>10580770
it's fucking over

>>10578610
1. Doom
2. Quake 3 Pro Skater
3. Doom 3
4. Quack Hampions
5. Doom 64
6. D44M
7. Eternal

>>10580770
Shoot it until it dies.

>>10580770
white enemies have like 10000 HP, you need a weapon set that lets you progress to OP stuff or is just OP off the bat

>>10579671
>>10580391
The Hivehand can also be used to distract active turrets and sentry guns. It's a little wonky though, they won't shoot the hornets if they're already targeting you, so you gotta fire from behind cover before exposing yourself.
When it goes right, you can distract the turrets indefinitely and even direct their fire into something else. I plan to use this for a puzzle segment one day.

>>10580398
tripping

>>10580794
an attempt was made

>>10578610
Why does it look like the Tony Hawk one has texture filtering off for the pants but on for the rest of it?

>>10580940
lmao

>>10580940
The boys chilling at the club.

>>10578610
Classic>>Q3a>Doom 64>2016>THPS3>Doom 3>>Eternal>>>Champions

>>10580967
me 2nd from the right

>>10580398
We're off to a good start. I also want to start looking into editing Build sprites for some personal touchups.

>>10580947
THPS3 on PC had inconsistent texture filtering

>>10578992
That and the shoulder cannon are retarded. Also, why have the wrist blade when he has a chainsaw. Moving more and more into the techno-medievalism realm is kinda shit desu.
Still like the games, overall, but I miss the nam era inspired space Marines. The closer things get to Warhammer the less I give a shit.

>>10578097
what is this? quake 2 beta?

>>10578610
OG Doomguy > Quake 3 Doomguy > THPS3 Doomguy > Quake Chudpions Doomguy > Doom 64guy > Doom 3man >Nudoomguy 1 > Nudoomguy 2

>>10581325
HACX 2 it seems

>>10581325
It was answered early on, HacX Cancelled sequel for quake 2.

it sucks that no one knows if a working version exists DrNostromo is dead or missing.

>>10580465
Didn't work, I blame blockmap. Gonna fill this room with imps or cacos.

I don't know why I subject myself to this

Can anyone help me find this Doom WAD?
I watched it in a video on YouTube around 2008-2009
You have an AK 47 that looks like the one from GoldenEye 007
You start in an apartment building and there's even a third person cutscene. Then you walk out of the building.
That's all I remember sadly.

>>10581294
I like the shoulder cannon. Mechanically it makes sense seeing as you can fire grenades and other subweapons without needing to fuss with animation cancelling.
But then again sci-fi/medieval blending is my jam.

>>10581378
I'm gonna say Operation Einhenjar but it's most likely not, sorry anon.

>>10581387
Sorry, that was Project Eihenjar, still probably not what you're looking for, but just wanted to correct myself. https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Project_Einherjar

>>10581387
Yeah, that's not it.
Thanks for the suggestion tho.

>>10581365
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hETiLFPjtA

>>10581378
It could have been a custom episode wad but with another wad loaded with different weapons, maybe it was modern warfare 2 doom?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXsgeDZZ05U

>>10581424
I should've clarified that the AK sprite was an exact copy of the N64 GoldenEye 007 one.
>It could have been a custom episode wad but with another wad loaded with different weapons,
That is possible yes, in that case I'll probably never find it.

>>10581382
I like sci fi fantasy, but not specc murrines big armor etc etc. I like the stuff that's closer to the fantasy side. Half naked women in impractical space suits riding 4 winged dragons shooting lightening guns sort of thing. Laser swords.

>>10581294
I like Warhammer, but for completely different reasons.
Doomguy's cool because he's just some marine with a shotgun and he kills demons good. Making him an anime protagonist is gay.

>>10581553
>Making him an anime protagonist is gay.
The comparisons to Japanese media is weird because the stuff we got here is still as Western as it gets, from the possible MCU influence to the "MOBA art style".
Closest i can think of might be the Dark Lord (You kill God, evil you) but he feels more like a terrible execution of ideas done better elsewhere.
>>10581382
They feel like a way to "canonize" being able to use inventory without blocking the main weapon, which is pretty much how it worked in some games like Heretic.

>>10581572
That's how I saw it too, a way to canonize firing off those weapons without needing to use hands. While still having some sort of extra visual flair/feedback when firing them off.
It's why I stole that idea.

>>10581546
Based. I like dragons with jet engines.

>>10581572
I don't watch anime, nor modern cinema. I didn't even play nudoom, so I'm going off on aesthetics here more than anything.
NuDoomguy looks tacticool to the point of being derpy, that's what I meant I guess.

>>10581553
>anime protagonist
What did he mean by this?

>>10581420
>gzdoom

>>10581643
Here we go again...

>>10581643
Yes and?

>>10581643
>gzdoom mod
>oh no, how can this be possible
(You)

>>10580645
>>10580672
>>10580684
>>10580689
Anons you gave me a great idea
1.Fill the level with annoying slippery ice
2. You know how some DBPs have fake "items" made in dehacked? Things that die on contact? Like gold in that wolf3d dbp or demon keys in newest one - make one that looks like ice skates and using umapinfo/mbf21 make it trigger a door upon being picked up
3.beyond that door is a voodoo doll that will cross a couple "change floor effect" linedefs on a conveyor - disabling all ice effects on map

>>10581690
I mean, I suppose you could do that but then again you could just not make ice physics at all?
Dark Forces does that in one single level and gives you the cleats at the very beginning so the time they spent making the ice physics is pretty much wasted. It's even more retarded on that game because you're supposed to be funded by the rebels or whatever and the very least they could do for their agent is giving him some bloody cleats before sending him off to a ice planet.
I suppose your idea could work in a larger project as a one off gimmick in something like "hell froze, but satan is still evil, time to prepare you winter gear and go kick his freezing arse" and in the first map you go around grabbing items to negate winter inconveniences and the like.

>>10581690
>>10581714
Ice physics are dumb because they have nothing to do with walking on ice in real life and break immersion because they're so video-gamey. If you're going to screw with movement and physics, do it like Serious Sam TSE: very briefly, and made ridiculous on purpose. Like the bounce castle room, which is completely absurd but made very funny due to the doppler effect on the kamikazes.

I played Skulltag Invasion for a few months a decade ago. What's the best way to get DOOM I + II, TNT, Plutonia etc. set up nowadays?

>>10581745
Do you want comfortable modern features or an authentic experience?

>>10581748
Nothing wrong with both depending on the mood I suppose

>>10581748
For modern features get Woof or Eternity, ignore GZDoom. For authentic experience get Chocolate or Crispy Doom.

>>10581753
Agreed with the other guy about chocolate or crispy for authenticity, but gzdoom is really really good. It does have some pretty stupid default settings though.

Note: do not use GZDoom if you're a brazilian with an old craptop. It lacks support for some older low-end graphics cards these days.

>>10581770
>>10581756
Thanks fellas. Anything I should know about multiplayer or setting up serves?

>>10581776
For multiplayer you want Zandronum. It's the successor to skulltag, and the only popular port that even has client/server afaik. I think you can google up some guides on how to play it, it's pretty straight forward.

Odamex is just barely to slightly better than Zdaemon these days.

>>10581781
Thank you guys for the help. I'm used to stuff like UT that has in-game browsers so I appreciate it.

>>10580696
Quake modding is better because it avoids this gay ass config shit

>>10581810
yeah, by only being able to run one mod at a time lmao

>>10581813
It's funny how even John Carmack recently said it's really bad as a modding platform compared to Doom.

>>10581813
You're not losing out on much considering most doom mods aren't even worth playing

>>10581813
>OG Quake Engine can only run one mod at a time without fucking up in one way or another
How about offshoots like Goldsrc. In addition, some sourceports might one day bump up that limit to 3, maybe 4.
*Crosses Fingers*

>>10581810
>>10581841
Don't be a zealot. Quake is good, Doom is good.

Doing some Ricochet since talking about it got me in the mood. Join in if you want.
IP: 164.152.111.147:10666
Pass: penis
Name: Booty Lickers Incorporated
Was gonna do HLDM but I forgot to upload the maps

>>10573270
>Does anyone else notice that in nugget doom and the dev build of woof at 600p there is a weird outline on the weapon sprites?
Is there a way to fix that?
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/commit/6cccb751849b83d0f5e12b9c85f139f085d62db1
Haven't been fixed until woof dev came along and put "+ 1" text into the code, that's about 2 years? Nice "cutting-edge" port you have there nugget friends.

>>10581961
When has Nugget ever been cutting-edge? It waits for Woof or Crispy to implement a feature and then copies it.

>>10581959
4/32

>>10581965
Hopefully woof won't start copying after the nugget in the race for whistle features, although the fact that they already gutted comp and automap options for being "cluttered and confusing" is enough worrying, being conveniently placed behind named categories before the change. I guess I could hold onto the current version in the worst case.

Just finished map 24 of Sunlust. This is pain.
The room with the archvile party and damaging floor is bullshit.

>>10582050
The idea with that part is you had the option of getting the yellow and red keys beforehand and using them to add cover to the fight, or just taking it head-on. I hope you didn't do the latter.

>>10582057
I got both keys and they BFG, since I'm playing continuously I even had some extra cells for it. It was still CBT.
Being spitroasted by archies, boners and barons is bad enough, but the damaging floor is just mean.

>>10581959
>>10581979
And closed for now. Certainly fun in short bursts, although I've rarely played for more than 30 minutes. Shame there wasn't more of a mapping scene for it despite how simple the concept is but how much you can do with it, but at least Crossfire was ported and that makes all the difference.

>>10581546
I like big space marine armor.
Half naked woman with robo arm type shit.

>>10581464
Remember seeing mercenaries something on skulltag, might fit your bill.

Had like 3 diff classes.
I can’t find WTF.wad or the ICP mod.

>>10582065
The damaging floor wasn't nice, I played on HMP and there is at least an extra rad suit. Fighting hordes of archies with the BFG can be interesting because you have to keep in mind the timing of your weapon and of several archies simultaneously.

>>10581853
It's not going to happen. The things that stop Quake mods from playing nice together are the same things that stop Doom mods from playing nice together, namely multiple mods replacing the same stuff.
In Quake's case (and Q2's, etc.), the issue is that everything's bundled up into progs.dat/gamex86.dll/whatever, so one mod entirely overwrites the entirety of the programming of another. What you are asking for, effectively, is a source port that can dynamically disassemble and merge the files. You'd need to have an entire AI built into the port just to handle rewriting the code, to say nothing of disassembly of compiled code.

>>10582126
I'm on UV, so only 2 rad suits. One won't last the whole fight so I had to grab the other while avoid getting flamed, that wasn't fun either.

>>10581420
this is exactly how doom eternal plays

>>10581853
makes you think, the one game that is designed to be able to be played with multiple mods is the most dead one

>>10581810
anon, that combination is a speedrun to death

>>10578610
um... sweaty, why did you forget all of the actually good designs?

>>10581420
is this mod supposed to be played with vanilla weapons?

>>10582184
Hell no.

>>10581643
... and that's a good thing!

>>10581748
GzDoom for mods and modern features, Woof or Nugget for just the game.

>>10580615
comfy
>>10580792
there is still hope

>>10582178
desu

>>10579959
>>10578983
my only problem with QC is the size of his helmet(head?) looks too small
>>10581326
>Doom 3man
heh

How do I read dehacked files for a mod if I want to see how it works internally? I can open them with Slade but it seems all gibberish.

>>10580967
>>10580959
what mod?

>>10579686
Ty very much for the answer.

>>10582428
Alien Armageddon Episode 3

>>10582446
thanks

>>10580615
Does it work properly in software mode or is OpenGL recommended?

>>10582460
nvm the manual says Polymost
>>10580615
great manual btw

Slowly making my way through the 2023 Cacowards. Pina Colada is really fun. I really appreciate the shorter average maps lengths.

>>10582586
>Pina Colada is really fun. I really appreciate the shorter average maps lengths.
Yeah it makes wads feel a lot less of a slog when they're not hitting 200+ monsters halfway in.

>>10582613
The difficulty feels really nice too, the level designs are smart without being too cryptic, and the levels themselves are really aesthetically pleasing too.

>>10578954
stopped watching this guy when he said his bf is home and how he better go give him a kiss in one of his older vids

>>10578954
>this is Doom now

>>10582836
You forgot
>feel old yet?

>>10582836
If you want it to be.

>>10578954
i've made a habit of falling asleep to doom videos because i find the rhythmic sounds of combat soothing
surely this is the quintessential case for /not/ leaving a brendondle video running in the background for such purposes — fucker's mic goes from 5% to 300% in an instant

>>10581853
>>10582131
it is actually possible to engineer mods that slot "inbetween". botman did that for his Half-Life bot which uses DLL trickery to shim itself between all calls from whatever mod is targeted and the GoldSrc engine

>>10582918
there's Doom ASMR on Youtube but that's just dudes whispering in the mic while playing. so weird

>>10582927
high pitches like whispers aren't fun to fall asleep to
like distant nails on chalkboard, my ears pick it up and hone in on it, it demands focus, it clouds my mind's eye, it's like a brick in my gray matter
hate hate hate hate hate hate hate

>>10582047
dsda-doom too has gutted the compatibility options menu

>>10582954
Found pisshat paramount responsible for this
https://github.com/fragglet/DietBoom/blob/master/README.md
>Boom added a feature that color-codes the numbers. (...) How much does it really improve your experience of playing the game?
>Percent symbols are displayed grey or colored. It's hard to think of a more pointless feature.
I only use ports which have color-coded numbers and also set percent sign grey, do you wish to force standards on me? What a fucking nigger.
>baffling maze of options
Fuck. Off.
And get a job.

>>10582945
this is why doomguy chose to stay in hell desu

>>10582975
Color-coded numbers are great for speed-reading the hud from periphery, I always use them unless they look like shit with a wad's custom status bar numbers.

>>10582975
Why the fuck did he want to gut the options menu for? It could be improved, but deleting shit is just retarded, these things are options for a reason.

>>10581641

>>10582178
>2nd image from the left

>>10582351
>there is still hope
Not with Gearbox.

>>10581643

>>10581961
The 3x resolution was released less than 2 months ago.

>>10582419
Try WhackEd4, outside of strings, dehacked is nigh-unreadable as text.

Done with half of the hard part of the energy sword swing. It is sort of self-animating: in the states I just need to tell it how high to raise or lower the blade and with what amount of force and dampening, and it'll jump to the next state when it's stopped moving enough.

Second half of the hard part is figuring out where the hilt is in absolute screen coordinates, because I'm gonna draw the actual blade with the polygon drawing function. I want to try to use a full screen camera texture only visible on the blade with some shader work to make it look like light-warping forcefield.

>>10583339
uh i mean damping