/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10556349
No light gun? Boohoo.

>>10556349
I'm not buying your $750 scaler, shill

>>10556349
>Getting one that's an actual good size requires two people and a van just to be able to move the fuckers around
Lift some weights, skeleton.

>>10556349

>I promise you that you'll stop noticing the sub-1-frame input lag after a while.
This isn't the problem. IMO a modern flat panel can't render how a crt looks. I find retro games, even with shaders and whatever else don't look all that great on one.

A CRT represents a good value since you'll be able to get a good quality video output without having to spend $100+ on XRGB Framemeisters and whatever else, just for it to look kinda ok.

>>10556349
Bat thread

I'm not buying the upscaler

CRTs are fucking awesome and the only cool way to play retro

>>10556349
>Getting one that's an actual good size requires two people
DYEL
> and a van just to be able to move the fuckers around
Stop driving a sardine can.
>you need to hope that age hasn't fucked up the alignment or the convergence.
You're supposed to check that before you buy it, dummy.
>But if it has don't worry, just open it up and tinker with a lethal dose of electricity. After all, it has to be running while you perform maintenance so you can see the image quality!
You don't actually have to do any of that shit.
>But hey, after all that physical labor and moving shit around, you finally get to sit down and enjoy...blur.
So you don't understand anything about CRT technology at all is what you're telling us.

>>10556376
>IMO a modern flat panel can't render how a crt looks.
4k 240hz can. You said "modern".

Just waiting for autism to come up with the next million dollar products that lets us play light gun games. Will be pretty neat

>>10556349
cope. retro games were literally BUILT for CRT's.

>bro just spend 3k on a scaler and a OLED tv to get similar performance to a CRT you got for free so you dont have to move a heavy tv once every 4 years

>BOUGHT

>>10556376
>still posting the castlevania one thats been debunked by the manual

>>10556349
Nigga I'm 5'9" 148lbs and I lifted a Sanyo DS27425 into my car and into my house all by myself. If you can't lift 90lbs somewhat easily in short distances at least then you are fucked up.

>>10556442
Explain please

>>10556374
lagless line doublers are $30 on AliExpress

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>>10556426
Maybe just get a normal ass upscaler instead of the ripoff "enthusiast" products that gaming youtube shills because they get theirs for free from sponsors?

>>10556496
nah i will gladly continue to play on my free 200 pound CRT i got for free(its not an issue because im not a rentoid)

>>10556349
what a weird post

>>10556349
Led flat panels are shit. And the high nits ones will literally fuck your eyesight up.Only a matter of time

>>10556374
my $100 TV deinterlaces just fine and all my other retro consoles output at 480p anyway.

theres your issue, you were talked into crts not knowing if the hobby was for you.
I found a crt on the street and it was so good i decided to get 20 more

>>10556349
I never bought into the CRT extremist fundamentalism, a good LCD screen is often not a bad way to play these games. However CRT will always be the best.

Stop watching pornography right now, its fucking up your will to power

>>10556349
CRTs are garbage. Inferior technology that might give you cancer that faggot s o y hipsters emotionally sniff when they get it
I'm gonna be honest I don't actually feel that strongly about CRTs or their fans I just thought it'd be funny to say

>>10556349
I agree. Rather use a filter. I don't wanna have to have another tv in my place. 1 tv that I never use looks stupid enough

>>10556349
I agree, rather use a filter. I don't wanna have to have another tv in my place. 1 tv that I never use looks stupid enough

>>10556349
Youre not wrong. They’re a hassle. For me its mostly nostalgia, but i really do like the look of a curved, late 90’s trinitron. I had a wega for awhile. The component inputs were convenient, but the flat tubes dont look the same and component looks weird. Too sharp? Scan lines too prominent?

I own a ‘barcade.’ Its small and cared for. I work on all the monitors and games personally, so i have a bench ready to recap crt chassis’, swap flybacks, etc.
All thst being said, consumer crt ownership is becoming too much of s pain in the ass, unless you really like fucking with them.

>>10556349
You sound Californian.

>>10556860
OP’s a faggot, but he’s not wrong.

>>10556816
This. Just like retro game prices, the ones whining the loudest only got into it when they saw others promoting it. Most crt users probably either had ones from when they were new or found them. I cant imagine paying triple digits for one.

I transported a 36" CRT in the trunk of my car several times. Trunk wouldn't close so I just tied it down and drove gingerly the whole way home.

>>10556349
>requires two people
Are you a twink, Asian, or a woman? Anybody should be able to carry 20kg

>>10556349
>tl;dr redditot filtered by crt

>>10556349
>Boohoo I'm a reddit-spacing faggot with scrawny arms who's afraid of electricity.
Generally one should be ashamed of such a disposition, not accidently post their reddit post on 4chan for attention.

i found mine on the the side of the road like a mile away from my house and got dad to throw it in the box of the truck kek

>>10556349
Works for me.

>>10556505
This is probably where the anti CRT sentiment comes from
These people don’t have their own homes, so they can’t do whatever they want

>>10556349
skill issue

>>10556349
Upscalers are more trouble than CRT's are.

>>10557019
im part of way too many god damn CRT pages on facebook and you see it all the time with urbanite people. they hoard tiny ass fucking CRTs. they'll have like 10 god damn budget ass CRTs that would have found at some shitty non-electronics retailer like a hardware store. Its no surprise that the biggest single person moveable ones like 14 inchers with component tend to be the most sought after because these people live in precarious rental situations and get the boot after 9-12 months because the landlord wants to evict them to jack up rent.

>>10556887
i transported a CRT i found at a illegal ewaste dump at a marina in one of these.

>>10556816
Now can you take a picture that's not as blurry as a 2004 flip phone photo?

>>10556349
>requires two people
Stopped reading here. You are weak. Disgustingly weak.

>>10556816
>I found a crt on the street and it was so good i decided to get 20 more
Are you me?
You couldn't be because I only have 8... Lucky you.

>>10557151
>Can you help me live vicariously through you?

>>10556979
Pre-emptive attack before stale pasta invariably shows up again

I live in a small town and go out at 3am with a shopping cart and load up any crts i find. I probably have atleast 100 from what i have actually set up, stashed around my home and in my basement and garage.

>>10557137
I will say, i love tiny tellys for 8bit stuff. Have my Famicom hooked up to one i found out in Amish country next to a goodwill clothes dump and everything just looks so right from where im sitting playing it.

Too often do I see modern minds hung up on the idea of image fidelity without realising low resolution images work best from a distance, like pointillism. You can get close and see the details of the individual marks, sure, but the image doesn't cohere until you step back, even just a bit. Getting close up is more for the examination of the method rather than enjoying the overall image.

>>10557252
It's true. CRTs do not cause eyestrain when they are off.

>>10557342
Not when they are on
Eye strain from screens is caused mostly by lack of moisture

>>10556835
Take your meds.

>>10557342
That goes for all screens, yet you're looking at one now. Get some sleep.

>>10556374
Don't need to shill that one when it's sold out

>>10556349
Yeah you don't really need one if you're a pansy jarpigger. Leave these machines to shmup Gods who need to improve their high scores.

>>10557019
No. This is a niche CRT extremist view.
I don’t miss them at all.

>>10556473
He thinks because a manual has pixels when printed that's how it was meant to be because he is a retard.

>>10556349
>requires two people
skill issue

>>10556349
I hate CRTs and always have. I hate the look of them, the light they give off, everything. Even long before other options existed I dreamed of something better. My main reason for moving to emulation was it was easier to play on non-crt screens.

>>10556349
>wahhha me weak!
Lame.

>>10557143
what is this..

>>10557381
It falls short on every category and still can't help with light gun games..and they want a small fortune for it. lol LOL

>>10557019
This. The "I don't have enough space!" argument only makes sense if you're living in some shitty 1 bedroom apartment. You can't tell me you have space for a bunch of old consoles and stacks of games but not enough space for a CRT. Especially keeping in mind that the space they take up is highly exaggerated. Yeah, they're bulky. But the vertical space is irrelevant, just the footprint, and a couple square feet of space is nothing.

I love having a dedicated room for my /vr/ with a nice comfortable couch, big ol' CRT, huge fucking speakers and storage for all my equipment. Makes it easy to get right into the spirit of gaming. Playing games in other rooms of the house is fine, but doesn't have quite that feel.

>>10558040
Aye. Sanctum Vidtorium. I just got a jumbo foam lounger and I'm gonna game like no tomorrow in that room, that has only two CRTs ironically, but one is for PC. That'll be fun to hook up, then to lose in Rebel Assault II way too mush on the damn Super Star Destroyer level.

>>10556894
20kg what sort of pleb tv are you running? If your screen is under 30 inches don't talk to me.

>>10556349
>Getting one that's an actual good size requires two people and a van just to be able to move the fuckers around
I can carry my 20" around no problem as a hungry skeleton and I usually play from about 3' away. You don't always have to get the biggest TV possible.

I've got a 32 inch. I moved it myself but should have got help. It's the perfect size for my space. Also, a 36 inch wouldn't have fit in my van

>>10557434
Wrong you stupid fucking faggot
>>10556473
His eyes don't glow red, he has red irises

>>10556349
>actual good size requires two people and a van just to be able to move the fuckers around, and you have to make a dedicated space for these monstrosities

dude. most teen gamers back in the day just played it on a shitty 14 incher with composite cables. you're too fucking autistic about muh quality. i should know, i am a poor ass SEA monkie who played with a hand me down famicom on an ancient panasonic 10 inch CRT. and much later an overpriced PSX that cost about 300 AUS bucks, played on a euros 14 inch CRT, composite cables. also had to buy a PAL convertor cause that euro TV only supported an older version of NTSC color which PSX didn't like. the TV would output black-n-white colours w/o the convertor box.

I wish the crt meme would stop, these things arent for normies.
They require more then just plugging in in alot of cases and a normie would never think to adjust focus color or attempt to fix something.
Im not claiming to be an expert on crts either but when I see the posts on this board about what issues people are having sometimes I cant help but wonder how tf people forgot all about crts in under 15 years

>>10557935
Yet you keep one and use one ...

Why is this board so anti-CRT now? Heck, the board seems anti-hardware these days too. What happened?

I just want to enjoy CRTs and consoles in peace with those who feel the same. You can't tell me all those people are dead? This was just a few years ago, even.

pls help

>>10558429
The continual demoralization and demasculization of the primary bread winner (the man) means that the art of fixing things is practically outlawed. In the old days if your tv broke down you would either fix it yourself or if you didn't care for the hassle get the tv repair guy, who would be a guy known in the locality who would have a good, honest job fixing tvs, installing satellites and that sort of thing. They would even have a few small backup tvs in their van for people to use for if they couldn't fix the tv on the spot and had to take it in. Once the guy that came out to us had run out of backup tvs and instead a neighbour was kind enough to lend us their tv - lol I bet to zoomers it sounds like I'm making this shit up, it's the truth! You have to realize that back then there were no computers around people's homes so for a family to be without a tv for any length of time was a massive fucking deal. It wasn't even that long ago, like the late 80s or early 90s, we're not talking the 50s here (I have no doubt this occurred back then though). Cars were similar in that a mechanic could practically build any car from scratch back then, while today they are only able/allowed to inspect the most superficial parts of it.

So it's just this globohomo eroding away of any sense of being a functional provider, sense of satisfaction, of being able to fix stuff for your family or knowing someone who could fix it. You know nothing and understand nothing, you're given these devices by the elites to use, you don't ask questions. There's something sinister and spooky to it all. .

just buy a 4k monitors and use shaders + runahead

>>10557935
maybe get a budget CRT that has more than a fucking RF and composite connection retard

>>10558429
kek'd n saved

>>10558941
Rule change happened

>>10556349
My main man, just get a portable CRT
>Their always under $100, I found my for $5 at a garage sale.
>Easily carried by your weak ass, and will almost always come with a handle.
>The whole thing is just about as big as your laptop case, often times smaller than the actual console.
>It will run most 8 and 16 bit era stuff super well at a fraction of the cost.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185946736515?

>>10556349
>load rom
If you put any more effort than that into playing old games, you are a fool and an embarrassment.

>>10558941
>You can't tell me all those people are dead?
We're still around, yet the hardware is getting scarce, so faking it with emulation is understandable.

>>10558941
You crtroonies and plebbitors were too fucking obnoxious so we started slapping your shit in.

Retro prices, plus advances in emulation, also made you plastic huffers look like giant faggot goyslop consoomers.

>>10559181
>yet the hardware is getting scarce
How? Most consoles discussed on this board sold millions, if not dozens of millions.

Mmmm composite

>>10559243
I mostly meant CRTs, but point taken. Still, millions made doesn't necessarily mean millions still existing. For instance, I got a game that had only 1200 made maximum, but there's already proof that a few have been destroyed, so the likelihood that even more are gone and unreported is high.

>>10559369
Oh, didn't realize you meant CRTs, my bad. The way TVs were, and still are thrown away in general, I can believe their numbers rapidly dwindled compared to other electronics. Wish there was something more we could do about it. These days when I try to search for TVs, CRTs don't even show up anymore, and if they do, the prices just keep getting more and more ridiculous. All the ones I have right now I've gotten for free, but I haven't checked in a few years until the other day, and the dryness is unreal, just compared to 2019.

>>10559373
crt tvs are cummon as fuck.
no "dryness"
too many to store them all here

>>10559369
What game?

>>10559376
Where at? I can definitely see it being a regional thing, as many things are.

>>10558937
The only thing I keep it around for these days is watching VHS tapes. Once I could emulate Saturn decently I don't bother with it.

>>10559045
I've had many in my day, sometimes quite good ones but truly I don't like any of them. That one was my wife's old tv we just never got rid of.

>>10559412
I dont live in the niggered kikes of muttmerica so maybe thats why finding tvs isnt hard.
In third world countries like the us things are just more expensive

>>10556349
skill issue

>>10556469
>>10557229
The big Sony's are idiotically heavy, like 200 pounds. I have moved one a few times.

>>10557983
Yes and no. The TV itself technically doesn't take up space, but it DOES take up space to have an entire second area to comfortably play your games in, since a second screen means a second shelving unit for consoles, and a second couch/chair to sit in while you play.

>>10559593
OP here, maybe that's what tainted my view on the weight? It was a big ass WEGA, weighed about two hundred pounds, needed a custom TV stand just to support it's weight

>>10558163
He's also supposed to have eyeballs and not two red dots

>>10558163
>His eyes don't glow

>>10559510
ok
thanks for the help

>>10556349
Lol, based. But the frames are wrong.

>Americans are so rich and live in big houses that can easily keep old CRTs without having to throw away their beds or fridges
>Meanwhile, 3rd worlders and Europeans can barely afford small apartments so small that you can't shit outside your room

10560672
>make joke about us
>mutts cant stop making up cope

>>10560672
Most Russians have two homes, one for the summer and one for the winter. Land is not expensive there.

Meanwhile the US:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T7Wpg7A_xw

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacha

I like how old games look on a modern display.

this thread was made by a dyel uneducated zoomer that can't get a CRT and this is his cope. here's how I know
>a good size requires 2 people
typical weight of a good sized one is 100 to 120Kg, but the majority of it is on the screen side and there's handles at the top so you can carry it with the screen facing your body easily
>need to open to calibrate
only in extreme cases. most things can be done by going into the service menu and normal menu
>nothing past 2006 works on them
no point in running anything past that age on them. the PS3 was released in 2006 and even that is better on an LCD, but if connected to a CRT it's good for PSX and PS2
>blur
more like shadowmask. you'd get blur if you played on a big LCD due to the upscaling
>radioactive
only the first generations sets leaked harmful chemicals, and no one is going to use them due to not even having RF, and they're unlikely to work due to being made in the 70s
>get an upscaler
if you don't care about authenticity nor the sub 1 frame of input lag then instead of getting an upscaler, the best thing to do is emulating, since you can have shaders, internal upscaling and run-ahead

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>>10559664
All valid arguments, but everything changes when it comes to a single console: The PlayStation 2.
The CRT is arguably and indisputably the only optimal choice. Every other display choice has massive trade-offs.
Here are 3 main aspects: Interlaced Resolution; Internal Resolution; and Motion Resolution.

Only CRTs can display interlaced resolutions as intended, while modern displays require a process called deinterlacing.
Deinterlacing quality varies alot between devices and displays, but even the best deinterlacing techniques wont be as perfect as a CRT.

PS2 games have a very low internal resolution, most are rendered at 640x480. Low resolutions when upscaled cause artifacts, resulting in a blurry and messy picture, and even the best upscaling processes will result in a pixelated picture.
CRTs dont need to upscale the picture, resulting in a better picture. And due to the shadow mask's low resolution, it helps to smooth the jagged nature of low resolution graphics.

And finally, CRTs have superior motion resolution due to the strobed nature of the electron beam and phosphors. All other display technologies, except for Plasma, draw frames on top of each other, resulting in noticeable motion blur.
Some have strobing or black frame insertion but it decreases brightness levels.
The CRT gives you amazing motion resolution without penalties to brightness.

And another Bonus for consumer CRTs. Because they have imprecise colors (often saturated), this actually benefits the PS2's muted and desatured color pallete, which is why many people recommend regular CRTs over professional models.

Many say the PS2 has terrible picture quality and I suspect it's due to them never seeing the original hardware running on a CRT. Dont shit on the PS2 before using a CRT!

Happy New Year everyone.

>>10556349
I grew up with a CRT and there is nothing special about them. The only minor advantage is they tend to have better speakers but you spend a hundred dollars on home theater in a box and you are set for life. And when you upgrade your TV again and again and again you can still keep your big booming sound. And if you are an audiophile then you can go crazy and get whatever the fuck you want. Has no bearing on the sound.

>>10560852
And the winner for the worst larp by a 12yo is (You)

>>10560880
if you say larp you are a child.
You might be 50 years old, but you're a child.

>>10559408
Zaku for the Atari Lynx. It has a nice box, manual with color artwork, and real shell, so it tends to be counted as an official release even though it isn't. It's fun as fuck and pushed the Lynx to its limits, it feels like playing Metal Slug half the time.

>>10556349
defeated zoomer

>>10560820
>only the first generations sets leaked harmful chemicals, and no one is going to use them due to not even having RF, and they're unlikely to work due to being made in the 70s
Not who you're replying to, but do you have any more info on this? I've been interested in collecting older CRTs (30s-80s), and wasn't aware of this until now. How radioactive are we talking?

>>10561701
dont listen to this retard, the only thing harmful in a CRT is the leaded glass which is on the inside. it doesnt matter unless you work in the business of e-waste disposal. and no these things do not emit mass amounts of harmful radiation. the glass is so fucking thick it doesnt matter.

Welcome to 2005

>>10557357
The truth is painful, isn't it?

>>10561498
Oh, dope, i got that one too. I missed the Super Fighter Team release, but by pestering and poking around, i found out Telegames had some copies still which is how I got mine. Penguinet is really talented for doing Zaku and and Ricki & Vicki, id love to see them do something on the Jaguar.

I missed out on the last 3 Genesis games that Super Fighter Team localized, Legend of Wukong, that scifi one and the Vixen mecha tactics one. The owner threw a fit or something and doesn't want to do this stuff anymore. He's been rather grumpy during times i would email them.

Why do zoomer girls love crts so much?

>>10562215
because they have soul

>>10560834
Happy new year anon!
The PS2 still looks quite mediocre on my Sony Wega Trinitron (model KV-20FS120) using component cables to the point that even my PSX with the original Composite cables looks similar. It could be the terrible chink cables but still, the PS2 having terrible picture quality is a fact, and 480i doesn't do it any favors

>>10561757
Also the slight possibility of explosion, just don't drop them. Also avoid non-western CRTs, some Soviet ones were basically grenades.

i just kept mine from when i was kid, ez.

>>10560820
Im also a CRTfag but some of these points are wrong. I assume you meant 100 pounds, because only shit like the 36" flat screen HD trinitrons are 100 kg (like 250 pounds, physically impossible to carry without like 3 guys)
Also, most CRT's need to be opened to fix problems. If the TV was used a good amount, it likely has convergence, screen, and geometry problems which you need to open the set to adjust (although its not really that hard and you don't need technical expertise to do)

>>10560884
>i r child so u r child
Sure thing kiddo

>>10562380
Sounds like a you problem anon
I have component cable and that shit looks super sharp
Maybe there are just some CRTs better at interlaced content then others

>>10556349
I'm actually investing further in them.
Got a kit, might even become an apprentice to an electrician.
Like, fine you think you won't need that...

>>10562614
Based! Show me the way anon, I want to learn too

>>10562642
NTA but the way to learn CRT stuff is just opening it up and fucking around. IDK how else to explain it but you just need to mess around with stuff until you gain confidence and a sense of what you're doing. You should look up specific guides for adjustments but also the service manual for your specific TV (which is very likely available as a PDF somewhere)

>>10556349
Get an old.

I still really like my collection of CRTs. It's fun if you're into electronics tinkering. But I've yet to open one of CRTs yet. Ive.been able to improve a few minor problems with the service menus and degausing wand. Sometimes the focus adjusent on the flyback transformer can be adjusted without taking the housing off.

>>10556349#
Get an oled. I saw someoness 65" LG C2. Holyshit that TV is increBible for gaming. Too bad they didnt get the 77". it's all chock full of gaming features and high refresh rate shiz.. its a 120hz panel.

I still really like my collection of CRTs though. It's fun if you're into electronics tinkering. But I've yet to open one of CRTs yet. Ive been able to improve a few minor problems with the service menus and degausing wand. Sometimes the focus adjusent on the flyback transformer can be adjusted without taking the housing off. Insulated screwdrivers required.

Why don't you guys just spend the last decade hoarding CRTs in your garage that you got for free off Craigslist?

>>10562642
The way to post fantasies on 4chan is easy:
>Click "Start a New Thread"
>Type in your fantasy
>Click Get Captcha
>Type in randon letters that make more sense than your fantasy
>Click Post
>>10562647
>NTA but the way to learn CRT stuff is just opening it up and fucking around
Is this really easier than tidepods? Oh wait, you wouldn't know. It's just another fantasy. I can tell from some of the you still being alive.

>>10556349
>Save yourself the headache and just get a modern display with an upscaler, I promise you that you'll stop noticing the sub-1-frame input lag after a while.

Fuck that, I plugged an old CRT VGA monitor that I had kicking around into my PC and it is the best way to play emulated games. I really do notice the lack of input lag. I also love watching older 4:3 media on a VGA monitor, it just feels right. The colours can be adjusted to look 'correct'. Older PC games have the correct gamma levels and actually look dark like they should. The original Doom 3 was a dark game on a VGA monitor. That was part of the gameplay was how dark the environments were and how you really had to use the flash light. But LED monitors really destroyed that element.

>>10562215
Most are big and black and can hurt you if not handled properly.

>>10562590
you're just weak, I don't use stupid measurements
I collected sets that were under pouring rain for longer than 1 week and likely handled poorly and only needed service menu calibration

>>10556349
A couple of years back i played 1000s of hours of sfc and ps1 games using rgb on a big b&o crt i got for free
Before that i had pic related and before that i used a small lcd

Nowadays i use composite on a medium sized 10 year old lcd and its completely fine

Sure the games look better on crts but it's not worth the eye strain and the sound they make

>>10562794
Not to mention the fact that i can use the same tv with my ps4 pro as well

>>10556887
>36 inch tube

Impressive

>>10558429
I felt like fucking neo the first time I used the service menu on my lil teac to fix an issue it had with the borders or something

>>10561536
His fault for not only being a weakling, but also getting his hopes up thinking some old crt he found on the side of the road was gonna look like an arcade cabinet display.

>>10556476
what do they look like?

>>10563223
they literally do if you are not a moron about it.

>>10563223
The difference between an arcade monitor and a retail one from the 80s is negligible, maybe even imperceptible.

>>10562380
Try more CRTs, maybe yours is worn out and not performing as it should.

>>10563269
they're retrotink 2x clones with a power switch.

>>10563687
Better spend more on the OSSC than buying this piece of garbage that will yield crappy results.
The latest OSSC even allows HDR mode, which works great with scanline filters.

>>10560834
All valid points but your wrong about the ps2 picture quality. Unless those later slim models improved it but those things are useless.

>>10563890
What's wrong with slim?

>>10563864
>Better spend more
LOL
Shills are on suicide watch.

>>10563890
What's the best way to view PS2's graphics? Emulation doesnt count btw, talk about original hardware.

the local junkyard had a PVM right at the entrance. they used it for some monitoring or something. i think it was for the truck scales, idk.
asked one of the clerks about it, didnt really give me an answer.
a couple weeks later they changed it for an LCD. my best guess is they just threw it out without a second thought.
sad.
makes you wonder why they had it in operation for so long anyways.

>>10563906
Phat shaming

Advertising thread. Where the fuck are the mods?

>>10564158
I play ps2 on a late model Trinitron with 10 dollar component cables from amazon and it looks amazing. Don't meme yourself into spending more for component

>>10564438
>Don't meme yourself into spending more for component
This. Component cables are for films.

>>10563687
Those guys managed to get their hands on the actual source code from the retrotink guy (via social engineering)
I have one of their RAD2x clones for the mega drive that works perfectly (lagfree 240p scaler) and only cost me €30 including shipping.
I usually don't like chink clones but the retrotink guys can suck a dick with their overpriced and constantly out of stock products.

>>10562794
>eye strain
I have to admit the last time I used a CRT was over 15 years ago but I don't remember experiencing any eye strain. Though I was younger and maybe today my 32yo eyes wouldn't take it as easily

>>10564504
I literally use a CRT as a monitor daily. If anything my eyes feel better. At worst, it's exactly the same as my flat screen was. This all seems placebo

>>10564504
It's nothing to do with the screen
These dumb cunts stop blinking when they look at the TV

>>10556349
But I want to play SNES games at their native 60.0988 fps and pay for all the extra bullshit that comes with it. If you crave the real crt thing you are a man child."I payed $300 for a TV that was found in a dumpster! What a bargain!"

>>10564580
me too.
I think the people experience eyestrain probably have some light form of epilepsie that makes them get headaches from flicker or something

>>10564730
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Paying for a CRT

>>10564438
>Don't meme yourself into spending more for component
Pretty sure only the GC and Xbox component cables are expensive because of the rarity

>>10564817
so make them yourself

>>10564817
Pretty sure Gamecube has external circuitry for component that makes the cables expensive. Xbox you can use any clone ones I think.

>>10564794
Get bent mugging thief from the worst of favelas.

>>10564926
I think the GC one is a bit tough
>>10564927
the 360 has many, not sure if the OG Xbox is the same, but it's easy to get RGB SCART at least

>>10564932
My brother has official component cables for Xbox. They don't have anything like external ypbr converters in them so should be cheap to find on ali express or something. Didn't know scart was available on Xbox, I currently only have crt's with component and digital inputs so I ordered a gbs-c saturn cable to use with it. But I have done scart mods to older analog tv's, just gotta step my electronics skills up. Especially for the variable voltage jungle chips, maybe will need a bus pirate too

>>10564943
Well most people would go component for XBox because they don't play it on a CRT

>>10564950
Not sure, personally I am still undecided about sixth gen. I have a ps2 but am thinking of getting a wii for gamecube and maybe import a dreamcast from Japan. Not an Xbox fan but I would play it on something like a big 29-32 with component if I did.

>>10564932
GC is nigger retard cable with a chip in it.
But you can simply buy a wii for gamecube games

>>10564956
yeah I've got a big 28" set that I sit about a metre and a half from
apparently the Xbox I have is cleaner on RGB than component so that worked out for me
>>10564958
I know, I do have a Wii for that reason, doesn't change that the gamecube cables are expensive

>>10564438
Cheap cables are usually fine for analog display, but you'll notice problems if you plug them into a scaler/digital converter.

>>10564964
If you ever see an LG flatron, grab it. I can't stand aperture grill sets, they are overrated but currently I have a 25PT Philips and a 29 LG flatron. LG had tech in collaboration with Philips to produce truly flat tv's, geometry is insane. Beautiful sets, just not the Korean slimfits. I am also the anon that rgb modded the Mitsibishi in the last crt thread but I have Sharp and Panasonic in storage I need to look at. Still a noob but yeah learning.

>>10564980
I have a Grundig with a Thomson tube it's got a very clean image
Not really a fan of the flat screens to be honest and the bigger TV's tend to have only a slight bubble anyway

>>10564990
Nice, only German tv's I have experience with are Loewe and their beautiful, magnetically calibrated in factory tubes. However the chassis are pathetically thin, buy an expensive tv and encase it in pretty much a candy bar wrapper thickness plastic.

>>10565002
people pay extra for that nowadays to have the most thing and fragile tv

>>10565128
For consumer tv's, Panasonic and Philips have the nicest internals I have seen in person. Sony has thin pcb's that Crack the solder joins but the components look alright. Ironically Sony has a ton of Philips stuff used.

>>10565146
Panasonic is great.
I have 2 big 28" tubes, very sharp and bright.

>>10564438
Component is complete dogshit. Comparing s-video to rgb is debatable but composite isn't even close.
Regardless the ps2 has dogshit video output and this can't be fixed without hardware mods.

>>10565275
can we just ban this troll that keeps saying PS2 video output is dogshit when he doesn't even acknowledge interlacing time and time again

>>10564990
Isn't Thomson RCA?

>>10564965
dont care, never playing retro on a goyslop LCD

>>10565351
>everyone who shits on my perfect religious idol of a console is the same evil troll
lmao
repeating
>muh interlacing
like a parrot won't suddenly make the ps2's video output good, you dumb faggot
literally all of the 6th gen consoles gave out an interlaced signal for 15khz displays, but fucking saturn composite is cleaner than ps2 component
now bring in the dumb cope about how it totally looks amazing and sovlful on your 150 tvl 13 inch low end gook tube because nobody ever at any point in time paired their ps2s with something as generic as a 27 inch flat trinitron which ironically enough is enough to expose the ps2 as a total piece of shit

>>10556374
Buy an ad, anti-shill shill.

>>10565389
Yep, you are definitely that troll

>>10565358
Not sure
Thomson was a French electronics company

>>10565416
god you ps2 fanboys are so utterly mentally ill
6th gen should have stayed banned JUST to keep the ps2faggots like you out

>>10565358
thomson bought rca's tube division and kept their old factory open until the mid 2000s, from everything i've heard those american tubes are still quite good, seen on some of the big meme name tvs like the 32-36 inch jvc d-series

>>10565424
>PS2 doesn't have a shit signal
>OMG YOU FUCKING PS2 FANBOY SHILLS ARE RUINING THIS BOARD
uh huh

>>10565480
>you said bad things about the holy PS2??? you are an evil nasty troll who needs to be banned!

>>10565517
No, you say shit that affects you and you alone and any time anyone says anything about the console, you start arching up

>>10565525
>it can't be multiple people saying the ps2 has bad video output, it can only be one poster!
mentally ill behavior from the mentally ill ps2faggot

>>10556349
i could move my crt when i was 8 years old and i was a skeleton

>>10556376
>I find retro games, even with shaders and whatever else don't look all that great on one.
>meanwhile, posts shaders
Why is /vr/ retarded?

>>10565535
>it can't be multiple people saying the ps2 has bad video output
Correct

>ugggh, the broken off-brand crt I found on the sidewalk sucks

>>10565590
>early 2000s
>see a pristine PVM just sitting on the side of the road
>"mom can I grab it?"
>"no we have TV at home"
>similar ones going for like $800+tip on ebay now
I think about it a lot.

>>10556349
Having a period-accurate display is crucial to the experience of playing on real hardware. If I'm going to be playing those games on a modern display with upscalers and hardware mods then I might as well just emulate at that point.

>>10556349
>Save yourself the headache and just get a modern display with an upscaler
What the fuck is the point of using original consoles if you're not using the original video output? If you're going for sharp pixels might as well emulate.

>>10560834
The PS2 is the only console I actually emulate despite owning one, I fucking hate interlacing
>CRTs dont need to upscale the picture
PS2 upscales that shit to 480i before outputting to the TV, it doesn't actually display 512x400 or whatever to your screen
>CRTs have superior motion resolution due to the strobed nature of the electron beam and phosphors
Pretty irrelevant when the games run at 30fps or worse
The only way I found to make PS2 games look good is emulating them with progressive scan hacks on a VGA monitor with a custom res set at the game's exact internal resolution.

>>10557019
I rent and I've yet to find a landlord that gives a shit if you bring TV or two in.

>>10556376
>without having to spend $100+
that's what they charge for shit-tier CRT TVs now

>>10565982
>PS2 upscales that shit to 480i before outputting to the TV, it doesn't actually display 512x400 or whatever to your screen
That's not what upscaling an output video signal means,
>>10565982
>Pretty irrelevant when the games run at 30fps or worse
That may be true, but majority of games run at 60fps.

>>10565365
You'll carve for gaming on a 65" OLED eventually when you stop being poor.

>>10566094
I don't see the point in getting a tv over 55".

>>10565590
offcourse what you find on the sidewalk is in most cases absolutely perfect.
If you pay for a crt TV you are just a retard.
>he thinks because he paid 300$ his crt is in good condition
oh nononono
>>10566094
now this looks like shit
no soul at all
atleast add a scanline filter to get some sharpness in there

>>10556349
>A blurriness that hides the flaws by just making everything look a little radioactive
I'll use this line in a song. If it sells, I WON'T pay any royalties. You shouldn't post your ideas if you don't want people stealing them.

>>10556349
Get a smaller CRT dumbass theres plenty that are small enough to fit on a desk. I found mine I shit you not in a roadside ditch. wiped it down with a rag and it works perfectly. These things are goddamn indestructable, as long as the tube is in one piece and it wasnt like a security monitor or something that was left running 24/7 for 20 years straight it will run just fine.

>>10556349
Nobody cares. Shut the fuck up.

>>10556349
You're just mad because you got your ass beat in melee to a Luigi main after all your shit talk with how good you are with fox. I don't play on it for the looks, if I wanted good graphics and shit I'd play some stupid modern AAA game. I do it for the raw perfect frames to manipulate. Enjoy your input delay faggot.

>>10566703
>>10566780
/thread

>>10566541
That's a great excuse for a shit bag nothing person. Go steal more shit you creatively bankrupt mayonnaise nigger.

>>10556402
>Black levels

Whoops. Back to the drawing board for you.

>28yo OP, tops
>understanding shit about a tech that was already niche before he was born

i like my crt monitor.
it doesnt have lag like an led

>>10556349
>I bought into the hype

>>10566786
>mayonnaise nigger
I'd trash talk with you, but you've given me another good idea.

>>10564794
Which one is it, anon? Shitty 2008 korean ultraslim flatscreen or a 12" mono audio RF-only durabrand?

>>10567729
The ultraslim probably has component, and they give you a fuck ton of adjustment options in the service menu to get it down right. I'd take one just for the fun of trying to make it functional

Crts are beautiful

Man facebook marketplace is brutal. I just want a decent CRT to play games on but it's swarming with flippers. If you're some 30+ year old dude with a wife and tons of income please just relax on getting more and let other people on board. Or don't I guess. Not like I can stop you

>>10567848
Why didnt you use craigslist

>filters armlets and poorfags by being heavy, requires strength or having a car in order to transport them
>filters asocial freaks by being too hard and fragile to ship, have to get out of your bubble and find one on the streets or talk to the owner instead of hiding behind a computer screen and ordering online
>filters rentoids and "people" who play videogames at their computer desks by taking too much space, have to start your own retro gaming corner and play some feet away from a couch the way god intended, or settle for a small CRT like a cuck
CRTs are the white man's best friend

>>10567905
capped, minus the white man part

>>10556349
OLED misinformation dickblower, get the fuck off my board - I know it's you. It blows my mind why anyone spends a single cent on the "hobby" when anything worth playing can be enjoyed perfectly - yes perfectly - on a laptop from 2006.

>>10567905
>having a car in order to transport them
Nope. As a poorfag, you either learn to carry them over long distances or steal a hobos shopping cart. I have walked over 2 miles carrying sets and now have 4 hobo carts in my garage.

>>10567935
yeah, sure

>>10567926
no it can't
stop spreading misinformation

>>10567848
>>10567848
>getting more
It's more about maintaining what you have at that point (for most people)? Someone up the street from me had a decent sized, 2000s silver RCA CRT out last week. The only reason I didn't take it home was that it had a little bit of paint, like 1cm wide x 5cm long that could easily be scratched off the tube with a fingernail. Oh wait, I forgot that walking around on trash night requires going outside...

>>10567940
Yes, it can. The misinfo is that this scaler and OLED is superior. It isn't.

>>10567936
yeah, sure

>>10567942
I failed to mention that the trash people don't accept electronics, and the person put it out with a sign that said "FREE", but yeah, I can see how the law makes it harder to get these things, even if many, many people still have them.

>>10567975
>bring proud of this

>>10567996
CRTlet is mad homie got [at least] 4

>>10567996
>>10568000
I miscalculated. I have 2 fullsize hobo carts and 4 half size. I found a 3rd full size recently with a sony trinitron already nicely pack into it that i took, but i had no room for the cart so i pushed it down a street on a hill and ran.

>>10566798
OLED has better black levels than a CRT, retard

>>10568000
I already have 4 myself. Having a garage but no car is just ????

>>10556349
All of this is exactly why people stopped using them in the first place. Hipsters think they are the coolest thing ever but anyone who actually grew up in the 90's will tell you otherwise

>>10567837
Interested in the Dreamcast on the left, looks like some cool stuff going on with that thing. Are you giving it an ODE mod?

>>10566094
This right here is the way to play in 2024. Ditch the tube and get a nice big flatscreen

>>10568295
Thats a GDEMU clone, you can get them on aliexpress
>>10568287
you have no idea what you are talking about

>>10567975
holy based
I kneel, poorman

>>10568287
I grew up with them in the 80s and 90s and its only made me want to obtain more of them.

The only reason people stopped was because "wider screen, less weight".

>>10567940
The other anon is right, NES and SNES emulation is perfectly perfect and is fun, even using a keyboard. "Inaccuracy" doesn't make games on other systems (that's what they're in fact called, not consoles, there's no physical machine required, and there's no need to differentiate between handhelds and non-handhelds) unplayable or unfun. If you disagree it's a you problem. Now type poorfag, it's all you can do. Now get out there and spend, payfaggot!

>>10568380
why the fuck would you play nes/snes games with a keyboard? Thats like wanting to read a book while someone throws baseballs as your nads.

>he doesn't find free CRTs locally and clean them up a little bit and relist them correctly

Shit literally prints money and I do maybe 15min of work max on each TV I've sold. I don't even fuck with the service menu or anything, literally just wipe them down and test that everything works. I only sold 7 last year but that netted me over $1k for minimal effort. Sorry if you think that's scummy but it's just good business. I never rip anybody off by the way I'm just a middleman connecting consumers(retards) with things they think they want. I also use an upscaler for convenience, space saving, and because my wife hates CRTs, which is why I'm only allowed to have 1 in the garage at a time, if that wasn't the deal i probably would have made more like $5k last year doing this.

>>10568483
i hope someone throws boiling water in your face anon, honestly.
good bait though, had me in the first line however there is no way in hell you have wife so you should work on your pasta.
Make it your mom or something.
Because no married would waste his time with trash for only one thousand a year

I just hate how popular crts have become again you fucking cyka making it impossible to build out my collection the way i want to.
Especially I hate those fucking pieces of shit like op that get baited into crts by others.
Very annoying, why tf would you get something you dont know you are gonna like?
You really got into something because it was shilled on 4chan?
damn
crts are awesome though its a shame we stopped making them

>>10568483
>letting his life be dictated by his wife
This is probably bait but if it is true, you are a cuck.

>>10568603
Based

>>10568604
You are correct.

>>10556349
>sub-1-frame input lag
I saw this post on the home screen and I just wanted to drop in and tell you you have no fucking clue what you're talking about

>>10568295
Yea it works. I just dont put the top on cause no one bothers it.

>>10568604
Not even close, she just doesn't want 10 CRTs sitting in the garage, which I agree, would be a little excessive but I could see myself doing something like that. I Don't just do it for money though, I do it because I want to test drive these sets and find out what TV I like personally before settling on the one I'm going to end up owning. And I know some people won't like this either, I mod consoles for a hobby and flip them back on the market, it's fun but I don't make nearly as much with that considering the time put in. And again, I don't play with modded consoles myself because I'm somewhat of a purist, only modded console I actually play is a SNES Jr with the RGB mod, which isn't really a mod since they already have all the hardware inside the console to output that.

>>10568586
Is it shocking that somebody on /vr/ has a wife and kids?

i got one of those cheap hdmi to component converters like i was told to do in >>10552643 but i cant seem to get a proper output. all im getting is various levels of green noise.
the TV in question is a pvm 14m2e and i think at least one of the issues is that that cheap converter box doesnt have a separate sync signal, which i think my TV needs.

>>10568360
That is the first thing OP mentioned

He is right though, they are also kind of unreliable and blurry. And they make that awful hissing sound which is maybe kind of cool at first but not great after a few minutes

>>10569246
yeah sure commie kys

>>10567986
I posted this last night. Lo and behold, look what I found not 150ft from my door (picrel)...
>>10568419
Would you rather play on a touchscreen? Keyboards are fine for RPGs which are all I really play.

>>10569428
My pic didn't post. Lmao

>>10566541
I'm sure the voices in your head will enjoy your "song"

>>10569432
They are helping me to write it, retard. You can't have a band with a single person.

>have to occasionally smack my CRT to get the picture to display right
>suggestions are that it's a cold solder joint or whatever
>never soldered in my life
I guess I better start learning before it finally goes

I think I played around too much with my TV's technician menu and I may have fucked up the image irreversibly.

>>10556349
>It's a pain in the ass!!
What's the pain?
>It's too big!!!!!!!
Child.

>>10569683
>>10569713
Here in shitty old PA, we still have TV repair places.

>>10569845
I just checked and there actually is "vintage" repair shop about an hour from me here in Michigan

>>10569858
What do you mean ""vintage""? What's there to air "quote" about?

Love my CRT. I just wish these screens didn't reflect light so fucking much, I can't see shit during the day.

>letting this thread die before I get a single (You)

>>10569525
Writing a song isn't a "band" champ. And the voices in your head are called Multiple Personality Disorder, not Multiple Person Disorder

>>10571575
turn up contrast during the day

>>10571727
Wait a minute! I was taking it lightly until you called me "champ". Is that right? Am I reading right here? You come to my house and disrespect me like that? I'm sorry, but...

>>10572093
No. You are not reading it right here in this place that is not your house, chump.

>>10572339
Oh, I'm starting to understand... It's the old tough love. You tried your best as a songwriter and failed, now you don't want my heart to be broken as well. But don't worry! I received your love, and I will do my best to achieve our dreams. That's right, OUR dreams. You're gonna be up on that stage with me.

im trying to hook up my PC to my TV. it has RGB/Component as well as a separate sync input.
ive bought one of those HDMI to YPbPr converters, but they dont output a sync signal. ive also tried looking into going with a GPU instead of a converter but i dont know if and how i would get a sync signal out of there either.
is there a solution or am i just shit outta luck?

>>10572741
People recommend using a old gpu with vga out and one of the transcoders (search up VGA2NTSC, Linuxbo on ebay, etc.)

>>10567926
>perfectly
Saturn, Dreamcast, PS2 and Xbox say hi

>>10556349
We get it. You want to come out of the closet.

>>10572995
Every single console that's not worth emulating. Perfect.

hi i dont get excited or upset by physical objects at all. I used little tellys to play snes games on in the 90s and I still do and everything is fine, thanks bye

I want to get the most out of my CRT TV as I can't find CRT monitors larger than 17 inches

The interlace is terrible, and I heard there is a plugin that allows you to change the render aspect ratio. I would like to use the 720x144p mode both to preserve clarity (720 instead of 640 horizontal pixels) and for the refresh rate (100Hz at 144p, instead of 60Hz at 240p and 50Hz at 288

>>10572995
Tell them I say "hi" too! Good consoles.

>>10556349
They are a novelty for those that didn't have to deal with them back when they were de rigueur, they are a bulky heavy unreliable pain in the arse otherwise, I am a big fan of HDMI adapters for retro stuff though I am not much of a retro gamer, playing old stuff tends to underline how much progress has been made since rather than highlighting much that was there that is missing from more modern games!

>>10574528
90% of the progress in modern games is just them turning them into fucking playable movies which are mostly unfun trash. ya the control schemes have improved a fair but the entire gaming landscape from 7th gen onwards has been a raging dumpster fire of uniformity and bland game making. 5th and 6th gen had alot of garbage titles but had immense creativity and had some real winners.

>>10556349
>Getting one that's an actual good size requires two people and a van just to be able to move the fuckers around, and you have to make a dedicated space for these monstrosities because nothing made past 2006 will work on them.
All untrue I have a phillips 32 inch widescreen crt and can carry it and I'm not /fit/. This is a fake OP thread where pseudo AI shite is posted of no meaning or consequence>>10556349
>Save yourself the headache and just get a modern display with an upscaler, I promise you that you'll stop noticing the sub-1-frame input lag after a while.
I have a CRT because I have a complete library of PS1/PS2 lightguns and games that ONLY work with a CRT. Sucks to be you OP

>>10567975
People telling me that I need a special stand to put CRTs on, and that you can't use just any stand available nowadays or else it'll break. Meanwhile, this guy has what appears to be a 26 inch CRT in a fucking shopping cart of all things.

>>10574584
I think a shopping cart is way sturdier than most particle board furniture

>>10564980
27PT9015D/37B MASTER RACE HERE

I got mine yesterday, finally found a decent CRT at Facebook Marketplace (I made a FB account just for Marketplace, I hate FB).

I got it for 30 USD, 27'' weighs like 50kg lol but got the guy to deliver it to my home and carry it inside (I got a deviated lumbar and cannot lift).

I feel this was a complete, total, steal.
The picture is vibrant and warm, the chunky pixels look lovely in it... and the Modded Wii I have works superbly over Component.

I have an USB HDD connected to my Wii with all my favorite 90s TV shows, Cartoons, Anime, etc... They all look amazing.

I even downscaled 1080p Anime to 480p, and it looks AMAZING.

This is the feeling I had watching media growing up in the 90s.. I really like HD monitors, but nothing beats Retro Media over a CRT.

I am in love, cannot wait to get back home and try the Rhapsodii Shima SD (SD version of Rhapsodii Shima skin/launcher for WiiFlow) I am installing on the Wii SD Card.

>>10567837
I see you are a man of culture.

I love that Lovecraft collection under your monitor, it was the best budget Lovecraft compilation at the time (based on Yoshi's which was impossible to find).
The previous compilation of Lovecraft's work was a mess of clerical errors and misspelling.

Also the cover is superb, purple is my favourito colour.

Barns And Noble make pretty decent collections for 20USD and they are all the same size and format, they look good aligned together on my shelves.

Also, you are a Lovecraft's cat for using it as monitor support, treat it properly.

>>10575693
Wtf are you talking about, weirdo? It's just a book I had already read. Geez...

>>10575868
This book?

You are a dim Lovecraft´s Cat.

>>10556349
>Getting one that's an actual good size requires two people and a van
Are you retarded? Very few of us played on a large television. If you had a giant rectangle in your livingroom in the 80s or early 90s, then it was probably a painting or a rug not a TV.

>>10556349
>too heavy
Start exercising. If you can't lift a CRT, and you're an adult male, you are too weak.
>convergeance and alignment
Convergance is a bitch but here's a tip: Flat screens have more issues with that than curved ones.
Geometry can be fixed by entering the service mode.
>blur
Stop using composite, this one is entirely your fault. RGB/Component on a CRT is razor sharp.
>get an upscaler
Fuck off. If my CRT's die and i can't find a new one, i will just emulate with shaders. I'm not paying hundreds of dollars for a subpar experience.

I found a magnavox mwc24t5 a at my parents house. Is this a decent CRT for gaming? I have many old consoles and games but have never switched back to a CRT for them.

>>10576275
Dad had the exact same one.
It is good, I understand they are rebranded Philips which are Kosher.

>>10564498
Fuck is this true? I feel ripped off now buying one.

>>10576072
>I am poor therefore everyone was poor
TVs under 20 inch as a main TV are a sign you were inside the household of a real poor person

>>10576739
Not exactly. Everyone in my family had their own CRT TV for their room. I think we had 6 or 7 different CRTs with at least 1 or 2 crts in the garage. They were all 15 to 20 inches IIRC.

>>10576072
My family always had a 30"+ TV in the living room with a 27" in the basement. You lived the poverty life.

>>10576750
I understand having a small TV in the bedroom or something, but why have 6 small TVs instead of maybe 1 large one and 2 smaller ones?
Isnt watching on a small TV with the family a pain?

>>10576854
Bigge4 CRTs are a major pain to move. The biggest one we had was maybe like 20 inches in the living room. But I think you are seriously underestimating how big 20 inches for a CRT really was in the 1990s. It plenty big for a family of 4 or 5 to watch.

>>10576869
lol no

>>10576869
fuck no 28" was medium sized in the 90s.
If you want really big you had 36" or even more allready at the time.
Biggest direct view crt is 40" Mitsubishi from the 90s

>>10565564
None of those are shaders

>>10576869
Agreed.

My family wasn't poor. We just didn't have a huge crt in the living room. I think our living room tv was around 22 inches. Not huge.

Everyone had their own TV in their rooms, and we RARELY all watched TV at once together in the living room. Everyone preferred to do their own thing and watch their own shows separately.

Not everyone liked those massive goliath 30+ inch crts that had huge backs and needed their own stands.

>>10576910
>Not everyone liked those massive goliath 30+ inch crts that had huge backs and needed their own stands.
poorfag cope unironically.
Dont try to change history like that

>>10576910
OP here, and I absolutely did have 30"+ CRTs growing up, and as a result it's really hard to wanna go down to half the size I'm used to for a CRT. I know it's entirely a me problem but that's part of why I bitch about the weight. Im not super weak (Admittedly I should lift or something my ass could use it) but my idea of a "quality CRT" is one of those 200-pound monstrosities.

I got handhelds if I wanna go smaller, when I'm on a couch with a controller in hand I want somethin sizable

finally managed to hook up my PC to my TV, but i think its trying to push the wrong resolution and i cant choose the right one. the lowest windows lets me go is 800x600, and my TV does something like 480i max or something. i think it does techincally have 600 TVL but i feel like the content im trying to dispaly doesnt look right because of the wrong res

>>10577217
windows supports 480p

>>10577219
doesnt let me select it.

>>10577217
Windows 10 is restricted to minimum of 800 x 600 for resolution.

If you want a lower resolution for 480p, then you will need to use an older version of Windows such as Windows 7.

>>10577217
You can add custom resolutions in nvidia control panel

>>10577905
that worked, thanks. windows is such a piece of shit OS, especially when dealing with monitors, its amazing its still this bad.

>>10566094
I have a oled tv as big as yours and no I dont wanna play 8-16bit games on it.

>>10577848
>>10577226
lol
lmao

>>10576910
The big tv's were like the latest iPhone pro's back then. Something poor people used to signify status and wealth that they didn't really have. It was a dream of the proles to have a big TV. Truly wealthy people didn't care about TV that much, they were jetsetting around on holidays and skiing, that kind of thing.

Smaller and medium sized tv's were often in wealthy people's homes for when they felt like watching something or so it would fit tastefully in with the decor. Look at the photo of Robin Williams in his daughter's room, do you think he couldn't afford a bigger TV for his daughter if he wanted?

>>10556349
I don't have too much space (or money) so i just depend on the filters on retroarch, works pretty good so far

>>10576275
a really basic way to tell if a CRT is good for gaming or not is its inputs. higher quality tvs always had component and s-video. budget ones always had mono composite and RF.

>>10578532
Well older tv's didn't often have those inputs but that doesn't mean they weren't good for gaming. In fact for older consoles, you really don't want to use a flat panel with those inputs because the geometry is shocking for 2D. So it's all situational and dependent on the tube quality.

>>10578453
>The big tv's were like the latest iPhone pro's back then. Something poor people used to signify status and wealth that they didn't really have.
>Truly wealthy people didn't care about TV that much, they were jetsetting around on holidays and skiing, that kind of thing.

Thanks for this post. I didn't understand why people here were insulting me for not having a huge TV. I never felt the need for huge one. In fact I had 3 different TVs in my room. A 5 inch portable TV/radio combo. My Game Gear with a TV tuner. And my 20 inch one In the corner. I never once felt "I need an even bigger TV". Half my time was out of my room playing with friends or taking trips with family.

>Smaller and medium sized tv's were often in wealthy people's homes for when they felt like watching something or so it would fit tastefully in with the decor.

This is a good observation I never noticed as a kid. Now that I think about it, the TV in the living room did not dominate the space. It wasn't the center of attention. It was off to side near the corner. It was slightly bigger than the TV in my room. But we had couches, a coffee table, and a fireplace that took up the most space. Paintings on the walls too. The TV was not the center of attention.

I noticed that much bigger TVs tend to dominate the room and eyeline. They needed their own stands sometimes and they had huge backs. When I see stuff like Pic related, I'm amazed that people have such huge TVs in their houses. It seems like a massive investment in space for something that is only on half the time.

>>10562746
i got the same jackie chan dvd, based

>>10578598
>picture
That thing...is a dinosaur.

>>10578623
It also looks like a shitty rear projection TV

im an emancipated 45kg 5'6 estrogenated homosexual and even can lift a crt by myself you faggot lol

>>10562746
cool pad. you should build some shelves and put those up.

>>10578598
You can see what the wealthy ideal of the late 80's, early 90's was in the movie "Wall Street". Bud's apartment is a classic indication of what was stylish and successful at the time. Notice the abstract art, designer kitchenware(entertaining was popular at the time as well as eating out, basically socialization as the internet was non existent) and not much in the way of tv's. To a lesser extent, a more modern though artificial emulation would be Patrick Bateman's apartment from American psycho. Again, not a huge tv but one tastefully integrated into the environment.

And last of all there's Home Alone and Beethoven which again show middle class families with modest sized tv's in their houses. I was a kid in the 80's but I was there.

>>10578629
>It also looks like a shitty rear projection TV
Did they even have those in the 1970s?

>>10578598
Following on from this, I'd say a greater indication of wealth and class would be owning an up to date home personal computer in the late 80's, early 90's as they were expensive and difficult to use without graphical environments indicating a level of intelligence and education. Poor people just didn't use personal computers, maybe a console or handheld. They had a stigma of nerdiness as well, that didn't really dissipate until the early 2000's when they started being ubiquitous in office and governmental environments.

>>10578453
Here's another example from "Feris Bueller's Day Off". This is supposed to be a wealthy, upper class kid's enviable room at the time and it shows a modest sized television that doesn't dominate, you can see the computer in the corner has more prominence as an indicator of wealth and status.

Forgot to post link.

https://torontolife.com/culture/come-up-to-my-room-2016-gladstone-hotel-ferris-bueller/

>>10578774
It's more likely 80's because there are similar sets from other companies around that time

Another movie that depicts the middle class in early 1990's is "Beethoven" with the NES scene. Again, a smallish television. Many kids also had a vhs player and a stack of Disney movies that seemed obligatory. Though because media such as games and movies were limited, they were often just one activity or diversion amongst many as you can see the bucket of lego blocks and physical toys that dominated the era for children. The family hardly looks poor to me but not overly wealthy either. But again, proves the point that not every family needed a huge television or even considered one, even people with plenty of money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSbsWKztYzw&ab_channel=NESWORLD

You can obtain a solid CRT simply by knowing a friend that still has an ancient TV they don't know what to do with, it's not that hard. I got an amazing trinitron model from gf for free that she was about to sell to gypsies cause she didn't know better. Far better experience, the difference between emu and console on CRT is night and day.

>>10578453
cope and seethe.
Bigger TVs had more features, and were just objectively better in every way.
I have everything from 13" to 32" crt and bigger is just better.

>>10556349
I got memed into buying a CRT (picrel) by faggot reddit basedboys circa 2020 and holy fuck it did it suck ass.

>misaligned yoke causing corners to be fucked up
>degauss coil fried so I had to manually degauss every time I wanted to use it. Without degaussing, everything had a green hue to it
>overall image alignment was fucked up, spent hours trying to get shit working through 240p test suite but still had a wavelike pattern in certain areas
>had to be floor standing and nothing was made to withstand a 220 lbs. light bulb so neck was always fucked up
>constantly emits high pitched frequency

ended up throwing that shit away.

never again.

>>10578975
Yeah, sadly I'm in the process of selling off most of my flatscreens as the geometry is too whack. I'm after a smaller bubble tube for 2D games. Flat panels actually have a rounded inner tube then glass on the outside to make them appear flat as well as something called an east-west circuit inside them to correct the geometry but it doesn't work too well. Even my LG flatron with it's true flat front panel has whack geometry compared to bubble tv's. On a playstation or 6th gen console you don't notice it but 2D is shocking. I suggest getting a small bubble tv, like a 14-13 inch and trying again.

>>10578973
I got a bunch of large CRT's but I don't really see how they're objectively better. It all depends on the tube quality and geometry which varies from set to set.

>>10578984
I ended up getting a childhood CRT (picrel) and I like it more, even got a PS2 for it and played Time Crisis 2 and 3 with the guncon. It was ok at the time but I didnt need it so I threw it away. albeit the smaller form factor was nice

>>10579003
need to make it overscan, lower the brightness and up the contrast

>>10579003
Fair enough, if CRT's aren't your thing then that is okay. I just suggest getting a rounded bubble tube and you might be pleasantly surprised. And you don't need a Trinitron for every TV, just a small 90's black one would do.

>>10579006
not my pic but yeah I agree.

Model is kv20fs100

>>10578985
simply being bigger allready makes them better

>>10579003
You should have given it away.
Dont throw working electronics away like that

What is the average age of users here on this board? 20s? 30s?

I'm in my 50s. Some of you people talk as if CRTs are rare pieces of technology, and we were fools for throwing them away. I feel like most of you were babies back in the day or not even born yet. You do not understand that CRTs used to be EVERYWHERE in the 80s, 90s, and early to mid 2000s. Hundreds of millions of CRTs existed at one point. Every house had at least one but probably several. Even the homeless guy sometimes had a portable CRT on the street. They were not rare back in the day.

CRTs were as common as owning a microwave or coffee maker in your kitchen. Maybe even more common.
We tossed them out when they stopped working or malfunctioned, and periodically bought new CRTs.
It was common to switch to LCDs when they became cheap around 2006.

There was no such thing as cool retro technology back in the 90s. Most of the world just looked at old technology as...old. Like no one really kept Black and White CRTs when color CRTs became a thing. We ditched them. These TVs were massive when you got to 30 inches or more in size. 100 to 200+ pounds and you needed at least 2 or 3 people to move them. So please try to understand why we got rid of them.

We had no idea that there would be a market for 90s kids demanding CRTs again. No idea that people would be scrounging, selling, and trying to keep these Beasts running. No idea that all CRT factories would close and spare parts be impossible to get. No idea that scalpers would be trying to sell them for hundreds of dollars. If we did know, then we would have saved some more CRTs in our garages or in storage.

Please understand kids....I probably will never want another giant 36 inch CRT again. But I wouldn't mind a small 12 or 14 inch CRT to play retro games on

>>10579175
Is this some fresh pasta?
How many times do I have to say it, SD content just looks better on a CRT, that's it

>>10560834
>Low resolutions when upscaled cause artifacts, resulting in a blurry and messy picture
with homebrew you can make the ps2 output 1080i or 720p so this isn't really a problem

>>10556349
>I'm done with CRTs
you obviously didn't get one

>>10578615
Got it at a boomer's garage sale for a dollar, would have been worth it for just the Operation Condor movies

>>10578681
Gotta get some more TVs first, the two 19" trinitrons (consumer model wearing coaxial cable hat and sitting on top of its PVM brother) are going in my office and a handful of those are dedicated computer monitors (Atari ST and PCJr are the most visible) so I'm gonna need some more consumer sets before before I actually build the wooden colossus that's gonna hold all these guys. Trying to go for a grid about 7'x7'

>>10579175
>You do not understand that CRTs used to be EVERYWHERE in the 80s, 90s, and early to mid 2000s. Hundreds of millions of CRTs existed at one point
Doesn't matter when everyone threw them away because the size and weight is inconvenient, and in some countries they can't even pick up channels anymore. Also, a lot more people are watching internet based shows with smart TVs.

>>10556816
This. Who gets talked into buying CRT lol. If it’s how you play it’s just how you’ve always played.

>>10556349
>get an upscaler
fuck off, for the price of a god damn retrotink you could probably buy a TV that has component input

>>10578973
>cope and seethe
I CAN'T do both, it's too much for me. I can either cope or seethe. Choose one and I'll do it. But if I'm feeling rebellious, I'll do the opposite. Like that: you tell me to cope and I'll seethe, or you tell me to seethe and I'll cope. ONLY if I'm rebellious. There's a chance I'll do exactly as I'm told.

>>10580015
>and in some countries they can't even pick up channels anymore

I don't use CRTs for over-the-air broadcasts anymore. But if you really care about getting the signal, buy a digital converter box for like $10 dollars. Its a small box that converts the digital broadcast signal to analog for your CRT.

>>10580015
There's only ever been three OTA channels on the Canadian prairies, one of them is french and the other two suck. Over the air TV has never been an important thing here.

Fuck it, here goes.
I work as a firmware developer for a major LCD panel manifacturer.
CRT threads in 4chan is a major problem for the company. Higher-ups are so annoyed they literally hired a "social media task force" (yeah, I hope I was kidding) whose whole purpose is practically derailing crt threads here and in some other forums (e.h. [h]ard forums come to mind...).
They are 100% scared. People buying used CRTs actually cut a large chunk off our production because they tell their friends/relatives and has a snowball like effect.
I once worked for a prototype digital interface for CRTs (basically a feasibility project) and the whole thing got canned once we delivered results.
Don't let them win. Keep fighting.

>>10581851
Tell your bosses to make new CRTs.

>>10581851
This can't be real, right?

>>10559001
Yes life sucks now. I wish liberalism and technology never took off. There's no hope lol

>>10581851
I knew it was wise to keep tabs on this thread. So, one of our employees is spilling the beans, I should've known. Well, it's not like you will ever spill anything again.

>>10558429
>these things arent for normies
Neither is 4chan, so go back.

>>10567853
nta but I've literally never seen anything on craigslist. That site is dead now.

>>10568287
You did not grow up in the 90's. All hipsters on Earth are in their 20's btw. There are no old hipsters.

>>10569389
>commie
What he's doing is pure unleaded capitalism you buzzword-brained retard.

>>10582098
Forget that, hep cat.