/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10532590

>Got V90 in the mail
>Corrupted 2 chink sd cards trying to get cfw on the thing
>Sitting unused until my branded SDs get here from amazon

>Got 353p in the mail
>No gaems installed b/c didn't buy from ali
>There are 3 buttons on the thing to take you out of the game
>Reset button on top
>Menu button on face
>POWER button on face, right next to the B and Y buttons
>Thing was obviously designed by retarded people

>>10532701
Good, the 353p was the handheld I wanted before the trimui smart pro appeared. Cheaper and has a bigger screen, but no 3 buttons I'm afraid.

How do you like this screen? The handheld must be the most ergonomic thing released so far.

>>10532590
>Phone posters have taken over, chinkhelds are on an hero watch.
Oh, we've only just begun... by the end of 2024 ALL of you will have given up on your handhelds, replaced by the very smartphones you all have in your pockets right now! MUAHAHAHA
So, jokes aside, what are you guys playing? I'm on Master System Bonanza Bros. I finished it, but I want to do it on the hardest settings now. It's an interesting version since it's the only one without cooperative, which in a way makes it the worst, but also the best for single-player since you get the full screen to play on, while you only get half of it, even when playing alone, on all other ones.

>>10532701
Hey, which CFW were you trying to get to work on the Powkiddy V90

>>10532701
Always assume all SD cards are trash, infact save money not spending extra cash for the pre-loaded cards with roms. Always get just the device itself and buy your own SD cards. This is a chinkheld standard and has been for three fucking years.

I fucking hate Analogue so much.
I hate that I love my Pocket so much.
>Still no filters for OpenFPGA
>Can't buy spare parts
>Abhorrent customer service
I would suck so much dick for some other chinks to make a clone with the same screen because holy fucking shit, I love that screen. GB/GBC looks amazing on it, 8:7 SNES looks amazing on it. I legit haven't played this much SNES in years and I've discovered a shit ton of games I hadn't played before.

Rant over, I'm a little mad today.

What are you lads playing on your devices? Discovered any games lately?

>>10532816
the pocket is based
dock firmware update will have more scanline options
& hopefully they work with the arcade cores

for portable cps & mvs alone its worth it

>>10532823
Kinda want to get a dock, been on the fence about it for awhile.
I just wish they'd sell spare parts mostly. I have a transparent red and some black buttons would look great on it.

>>10532830
I got a dock when it was in stock a few weeks ago and tbqh I use it way more than I thought I would. It really adds a lot of utility to the device. They are way too fuckin slow with feature updates at any rate.

>>10532816
>I would suck so much dick for some other chinks to make a clone with the same screen because holy fucking shit, I love that screen.
Why don't you have a rgb30 yet?

>>10532835
I had actually planned to grab one, then the Pocket went back on sale and I grabbed that instead.
Their screen looks fantastic.
How's Sonic Pocket Adventure? It's one of the few Sonics I haven't played.

>>10532716
>what are you guys playing
Castlevania n64 on my phone and link tovthe past on my chinkheld. The n64 castlevaniasa are WAY more fun than people said they were and link's awkening sucks ass, lttp is way better.

steamdeck oled is the end all be all. RIP my nintendo switch you will not be missed.

>>10532872
I've never played the N64 ones, do they feel like the classics in 3D or is it its own thing? I recall it getting a lot of criticism, though I've also seen a lot of people that liked them.

>>10532835
I've never realized how much the RGB30 looks like the Neo Geo Pocket Color until now, but it has both the same screen and form factor, so I guess it's only natural... I just need one already.

Sonic Pocket Adventure is SOVL.

>>10532872
I mean I guess 1/10 is technically infinitely more fun than 0/10 like the normal person would give the N64 Castlevanias, but I really enjoy Shadow The Hedgehog as a 2005 game so you do you.

Does anyone have the PNG mentioned in the last thread with all the details on the Anbernic drama?

>>10532872
Eh, even though Link's Awakening has a lot of whatever it is called when you exchange one item for another item, to exchange that item for another item, something that is best done for extra or side content rather than the main story, Link's Awakening has far better story and gameplay than ALttP. I'd rather play Graal Online with all of its original hiccups and frustrations than play a Link to the Past again. Meanwhile I adore Oracle of Seasons, Oracle of Ages, and a Link Between Worlds. ALttP just aged like milk. Strong on release but quickly soured due to literally anything after it within its own franchise. Even on the og black and white version of Link's Awakening after wanting the special GBC coloured version but not getting it, I tenfold empathized with Marin than the entirety of the fucking LttP cast let alone all of the princesses which none of you can fucking name, admit it, you don't remember ANY of their names besides Zelda.

>>10532907
>>/vr/thread/10514881#p10531574

>>10532907
Yes but a mod also deleted it, so I am scared to post it again. Maybe Anbernic bought an ad on 4channel so mods are actively b&ing this info?

>>10532919
>you don't remember ANY of their names besides Zelda.
I don't play fucking zelda for the story dude. And I can't see how it aged like milk when it is the best 2D japanese arpg ever made.

>>10532928
>Calling LttP an RPG at any capacity
Well at least I know you're an old fag, but I will never understand why anyone ever argued that LttP was an RPG. One of my earliest frustrations on GameFAQs back in the day.
Nothing about LttP makes it an RPG. Modern Call of Duty with is leveling system is more of an RPG than LttP ever was.

>>10532879
This but MM+. It's so much more portable, which is ideal for me, and I'd much rather play most new games at home on my PC with much better frame rate/resolution/quality. That just leaves a handful of Nintendo exclusives that I wouldn't be able to play without my Switch, but yuzu is surprisingly good already. So I don't think I've touched it once since I got my MM+. I wish there was a cheap x86 device for a few indie games I wouldn't mind playing on the go, but you can't have it all.

>>10532925
>>10532920
Thanks!

>>10532890
Honestly if you want a 1:1 resolution handheld, wait for the ZPG a1 Unicorn. It's the closest thing to that LG Wing handheld that all of these are inspired off of.

>>10532954
>d-pad in wrong spot
Oops, so close

>>10532590
RG280V is the bestest GBA SP / FAMICON inspired handheld there will ever be.

I know the v90 has a better form factor regarding the clamp clasp, but it feels too light and cheap to the touch.

The rg280v feels utterly sturdy, has weight to it, and overall could be a special edition official Nintendo product, a premium one.

It does not get enough praise and respect.
I am exactly one year into mine, since I got it for Christmass last year around this date, and I have not been able to put it down. It is amazing for RPG playing with a single hand.

Yes it can get tiresome holding it close to your face with both hands, like I had to do with the GBA SP, but it is tiny enough I can control it with a single hand,to rest one arm at a time... like I had to do with the GBA SP.

I insist, specially when it comes to retro devices, you do not have to break bank in order to have something nice, I believe the concept should be one of nice cheap devices, not luxurious items for collectors...

As a cheap Chinese handheld, this is superb quality for a endearing chibi, kawaii, device.

>>10532919
>empathized with Marin
Then fucking go to the beach and give her some french fries, don't argue on the internet about how games that were great for the sake of gameplay have somehow gotten worse when they haven't changed in over 30 years

>>10532919
I dont remember links awkening characters as from maron either. The oracle games are great though. Wonder whatever happened to that studio at capcom.
>>10532928
Zelda's not an rpg, and the capcom games and link bewteen world were better. The ds games could've been great with better exploration, (And acutalcfucking controls) but the devs seemed to prefer mostly dungeons

>>10532884
Feels like its trying to be classicvanais in 3d, but ends up being its own thing instead. Camera is shit and movement feels OFF. I cant tell if its the xbox style stick on my kishi or if I need to change something in my emulator, but the game's not too bad aside from platforming.

>>10532954
I don't know, both it and the LG Wing have this asymmetrical layout, and I prefer it symmetrical for a 1:1 screen where I'll mostly play 2D ROMs. I don't think these are bad though, but the RGB30 is just more to my liking, really want the thing.

Still, thanks for the recommendation, anon.

>>10532716
I am most of the way through the third disc of Legend of Dragoon. I would have beaten it by now but honestly... half the game is just soing addition combos correctly. Will talk more about this later.

What am I doing wrong? I have the MinUI extra tool pa folders under Tools/trimuismart and can see them in the menu but selecting them does nothing, just a black screen until I hit a button again

>>10532835
what filter? zfast lcd?

>>10533043
I see. I believe it's probably not your device, how do other N64 titles feel on it? If they feel good in this then the Kishi's not the problem I guess. I'm struggling to make N64 run on my smartphone, but then again I haven't put in any real effort to it just yet, if I get it running and my smartphone's not exploding from emulating N64 I might give it a fair shot, sounds interesting. Thank you, anon.

>>10533095
I'll be looking forward to your take, anon! I also heard about this one before, but never played it, so I'm curious, take your time though, and when, or if, you finish it, make sure to give a heads up.

>>10533103
It feels fine for side scrooling platformers and rail shooters, but castlevania just feels off. Might just be that game because custom robo feels fine.

Pocket Flip 2 when?

>>10532773

Miyoo 1.3.3

>>10532710

Screen is nice. I opted for the 353p over the ps because of the dual boot option. Another gripe is The face buttons being about 10 percent smaller than I would like and about 20 percent smaller than optimum.

>>10532810

Oh I'm very much aware. These latest purchases bring me up to 8 handhelds.

>>10533043
Is it a kishi v1? How long have you had it? Do not ever travel with it plugged into the phone and turned on, just don't do it. Always disconnect it after play.

>>10533193
Every warning has a story behind it, what happened to your Kishi V1 and your phone, anon?

>>10533193
Kishi v1. 5 months. Had to do the dpad mod. That's a bad idea with ANY usb controller. Espeically the gamesir one's

My
Body
Is
Ready

>>10533331
Get on my level, brah

>>10532823
How much did you pay for that Polaroid?

>>10533331
>>10533342
My X7 is a better experience and still collects dust.

>>10533436
Who made the X7 and X12?

Backgrounds, loading screens, boot up, and powering down screens are located here. It requires Linux File Systems to access if you're running Windows. This amount of customization will have to do until Garlic OS comes out for RG35XX Plus.

Root partition
M:\mnt\vendor\res

BEHOLD
/HHG/ WORD CLOUD

>>10533543
kino

>>10533543
10/10

>>10533545
Honestly surprising considering how much variety and versatility there are with screens, I feel like you likely did not go back into enough threads and got skewed results with all of the smart phone discussion recently from zoomers. Games, buttons, and handheld should be the top three words.

>>10533545
>kishi is one of the top words
You used the last five threads at most.

>>10533543
>analings

fucking degenerate.

Are there any phone grip controllers with the dpad on top? I don't know who's idea it was to make them all xbox style but fuck them

>>10533623
99% of the games you're going to be wanting a controller for on phones are going to be 3D. I can't actually imagine anybody playing 8, 16, and 32 bit roms on their phone.

>>10533631
I want to play all my roms on a phone. I have a drawer filled with old phones and all I need is a half decent grip and I'd be good. I already have mm+ and rp2s but I really want good ps2 performance. I want 3x dreamcast internal resolution. I want bsnes for snes.

>>10533623
No, at least not that I've heard of... almost ALL of them have the asymmetrical layout that XBOX is known for making truly popular... the closest you CAN is either using an actual controller that uses the traditional layout, with a grip to attach it and connect it to your smartphone, or a controller in which both analog thumbsticks are on the top, so the Wii U layout really, which is still symmetrical.

I wanted a telescopic controller to make it feel as if it was a single piece with my smartphone, so an actual handheld at least in feeling, there were so few options though. I went with a MOCUTE-060.

I've had it for a few months now, since late April this year, and despite the battery indicator being buggy, the battery's thankfully fine and it works for me, at least I find it comfortable to use still.

>>10533543
https://files.catbox.moe/lskm8v.webm

ITTTTTTTTTTTTTT'S
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-FGiP5fpvg

>>10533793
not even gonna click at the risk of bumping it by even one view

or are we ironically campaigning for the worst chinkheld-focused name

>>10532716
Can it run xbox?

>>10533847
No, I'm using a Samsung Galaxy M30 from 2019, I've replaced it early this year due to its battery failing on me in a few ways, it still worked, but I could see it didn't have much time, and it was so much slower at that point too, but I didn't want to just leave it somewhere to collect dust, so I've turned it into a handheld, but it's still just a mid ranger from 2019, so the best it does well is PSP.

A few, very few PS2 ROMs run well too, but the strongest system it does consistently well, but failing sometimes too, is PSP, it only does 99% of titles well with 5th generation console hardware.

I still enjoy this setup though, since I barely feel like playing anything newer anyways, though I'll admit sometimes I want to play PS2 and I can't in this, but on top tier smartphones it's a non issue.

Time to upgrade.
What do you guys think is better between miyoo plus and 35xx plus?

ps2 will thermal throttle on anything without active cooling after a few minutes phonecopers

>>10533924
Wait for the new miyoo and 28xx before deciding.
Between those two though, the 35xx plus is a no-brainer in terms of specs and features, they fixed everything that was wrong with the 35xx.

>>10532590
>Steam Deck owners on suicide watch.

Ah? I just bought mine (LCD 64GB) two weeks ago. What did I miss?

Guys, my RP3+ is more or less 1 year old and I begin to feel the battery dropping more and more faster despite 10% brightness and all the battery saver options enabled. What about your battery health on your device?

>>10533967
>What did I miss?
good battery life
good screen
good ergonomics

but you can't really miss things you never had so you're fine anon

>>10533967
>good battery life
>good ergonomics
The LCD Steam Deck still has 2/3 of those things anon. The only problem it had was that the screen was subpar even when compared to the Ayaneo Air's 5.5" OLED display.

>>10533991
Meant to reply to >>10533989

>>10533991
wish I could reply to you about the ergonomics but my steam deck made my hands numb and tingly and it hurts to type

>>10533924
what were you using beforehand

>>10532701

>Got 353p in the mail

>tfw I could have gotten an arc with the same specs for 30 bucks cheaper and basically paid more for the (very mid and possibly worse) form factor, and put basically no thought into my purchase beyond deciding that I wanted a 353p back in august.

>>10533928
I feel like I'd always be waiting then. Because something else will be about to come at with the pace these dicks shit these things out.

>>10534189

>just read the arc has a bigger screen

Want to pull a sudoku from the shame.

>>10534165
Rg280v
Hope I don't summon that guy.
I've been using it for a couple years and figured I'd try a new one. Also kind of curious about that gkd pixel but who knows how the firmware will be or if it will ever get cfw.
I really want something that has a sleep mode. But it looks rare among these things.

How's the RGB30 hold up running shaders on SNES cores? Thinking of hopping up from a mini plus.

>>10534198

I'm happy with my MM+ if I had a time machine I might chance it with the RG35+.

Can the RG35+ and the MM+ do cross platform/cross OS netplay?

>>10534231
as someone who slowly upgraded over time I suggest just waiting till you can get an RP4+ or something and then run whatever shaders you want on any older system

>>10534189
>segafag pretending he's not the funko audience
lol
lmao

>>10534247
I'm still hoping for a cheap small form factor OLED someday in a year or two, but I am getting a little tired of vertical 'helds.

>>10532701
>trying to use the shitty chinese sd cards instead of ordering proper ones ahead of time
>trying to use the pack-in roms instead of supplying your own
Wait no the other anon was right you're pure funkojak reddit incarnate.

>>10533997
>>10533989
>good ergonomics
>30g less
damm, you guys must be down to the bone. mr skeleton.
>good screen
Same shit resolution, but with a screen that will burn out in 5 years.
>>10533989
>good battery life
maybe the only interesting thing about the OLED version, however you will see everyone still using powerbanks because they play at 15W to reach 40-60fps.

Anyway, emulating at 5W I reach 5 hours with ease.

>>10533692

How many years until something in the $100-$150 range can reliably and comfortably play Morrowind?

>>10534269
Literally with that you get a phone that runs OpenMorrowind

About 50-70 more bucks and you have decent control.

>>10534276
OpenMW is on Android? Doesn't that mean one could just play it on a Retroid?

>>10533646
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In terms of the GPU, the developer says Adreno graphics offers better performance than Mali or PowerVR GPUs found in MediaTek, HiSilicon, and older Samsung Exynos processors. However, the creator adds that you should stick to the Vulkan graphics renderer option if you’ve got a phone powered by a Mali GPU (e.g., Exynos, Kirin, or MediaTek processor), as it’s generally faster than OpenGL. Some games might perform better with OpenGL, though."


https://www.androidauthority.com/aethersx2-ps2-emulator-3088419/

>>10533631
Don't see why not; I do exactly that plus 3d games.

>>10534285
Technically yes..so...

>>10533221
I talked about it before but I went to the dentist and was playing it. Didn't realize that I left it on and put it in my small backpack and idk... after that it never worked again. I tried a second kishi and nothing, idk. Lately I was thinking I may have been messing around with UAD that day and potentially debloated something that was necessary for it but thats doubtful Cuz Ive tried everything else. I think honestly though that the port might have just been damaged or something. The kishi will turn on briefly if I press it in kind of hard but yeah.... still connects and charges though. Pissed. It worked perfectly for a year before that and Ive yet to habe anything where the ergonomics were so comfy. The G8 when it arrives will be a real test because if I did damage the port then maybe the G8 won't work. But the g8 usb flexes. Idk... its kind of a fuckin mystery to me. I did read online thoufh that a subset of folka had the same issue where it just stopped working one day. Where it similarly turns on and then off.

>>10534318
Oh and the gamesie usbc that I had briefly worked just fine too, so like... it doesnt SEEM like it was the port that was issue.

>>10534249
It's not cheap or small but the Odin 2's screen gets some really dark black levels for a non-OLED, even at high brightness. Hopefully whatever screen tech it's using will be used with other new handhelds

>>10534310
Where the hell can you find the Android version? Are you bamboozling me? Because I'll warn you now I'm retarded and you'll succeed.

>>10534343
https://github.com/xyzz/openmw-android/releases

>H version of 35xx+ announced
>adds analog sticks
lmao at the people that impulse bought the 35xx+

>>10534330
I think I'm just gonna wait, incremental upgrades are nice but at this point I just won't be satisfied till I can turn something on in pitch blackness and not get a backlight like a beacon.
Not that I even play in pitch blackness most of the time, it's just the principle of the matter.

Rp4 pro v. Odin 2 v. Deck OLED v. Rog Ally
Trying to play retro games up to ps2 and gc and I'll leave an asterisk for PC gaming in the 90s if possible otherwise nevermind.

>>10534426

>>10534475
Odin 2.
RP4 pro still isnt enough for maximum compatibility, based on videos of phones with that chip

>>10534475
Deck. Most support, plays PS2/GC full speed, great controls and ergonomics. Also PC games and x86 based.

>>10533096
what tool?

>>10534489
>>10534497
Can they also play gamepass?

>>10533545
Is this for just one thread?

>>10533924
None

>>10534475
Deck.
Ally if you're gonna be a lazy bastard and install Windows anyway, just because the display is natively landscape and it won't have issues.
Forget running PC games on Android, DOSBox is about as realistic as it gets.

>>10534513
2023's Cheapest and Ugliest Looking Handheld

>>10534603
it looks like all the others bro

>>10534603
R35S and R36S.

>>10534624
As an owner of both I have to admit, they ain't pretty.

>>10534629
It looks like you didn't mod it, did you?

>>10534640
Nah, I never bothered with cutting the face buttons or anything. In fact the only thing I really did was remove the PSP games that came on the preloaded SD cards and put on the DreamCast games I wanted to play.

>>10534252
There is nothing wrong with the roms anbernig supplies aside from nes and arcade.
>>10534624
If the upcoming r33s used rg300/51v styled shoulder buttons instead of miyoo mini, I would kneel out of respect

>>10534672
And why not? Judging by the videos and comments it looks easy to pull off and the result is worth it.

>>10534693
He probably got one from a good batch. Mine came with a dpad that's responsive enough out the box (so no need to loosen that screw holding it) and the buttons don't double-click (checked in various games, they're still connected and you can see the opposite side button moving slightly upon a press, but it never registers), bought maybe two weeks ago? The Chinese keep updating this shit constantly. Then again, they also cut costs constantly. Mine came without a rumble motor, even though the device supports vibration and the early batches had it. There's a clear spot on the board for it and I guess I could always solder one in, but yeah.

PS. I've had a good experience with a lot of games running at an enjoyable speed when it comes to the Dreamcast, but PSP emulation is fucking weird, seems to be random. Some 3D games run full speed, others are unplayable. Some 2D ones run fine, others are skipping frames like there's no tomorrow. Patchwork Heroes plays like shit (great game btw.), Tactics Ogre is unplayable. Tekken 5 DR can be made to play smoothly, Tekken 6 struggles. No rhyme or reason to it. I probably won't bother with PSP, way too random, ain't got time for that.

Xxxmas presents for my nieces and nephews.

>>10534603
But enough about the 35xx+.

>>10534843
Anbernic's a shit, but come on now. This just makes you look like a jaded Miyoo fanboy. Unless you're just anti-all-vertislop.

>>10534856
Sorry m8 it's just ugly. Miyoo+ isnt beautiful either but it's definitely better looking.

>>10534894
>Miyoo+ looks better than the 35XX+
Your bias is showing.

>>10534795
Nice. Are you giving them as is (stock) or updating them with newest ArkOS, setting up emulators (including BIOS files), coming up with separate rom lists per each particular kid's interests or what? I guess if you set up one of them it's a matter of simply cloning the cards, but plenty of work nonetheless. Stock cards would ideally need to get replaced too (shit quality, will die sooner rather than later), but dunno if you wanna be arsed with that, plus there's an additional cost included of course.

PS. Look up the Dreamcast region-free BIOS, japanese_cake v1.032, very slight speed boost on some games.

>>10534896
>It doesn't
Your bias is showing.

>>10534906
Are you
>>10522079
>>10522485

>>10534902
Makes more sense not just for convenience's sake but so there's no arguments or squabbling to just have the same list of games on each device, in case one kid discovers something and all the others want to play it too without them being disappointed that their specific device doesn't have it.

>>10534795
I don't even know you, but this alone shows me you're a good uncle, I'm sure they'll love their presents, good job! I hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas, anon.

>>10534426
Also on fdroid/droidify

I like that he still wants to do the k2ds, but I prefer the 2ds looking clone design.

>>10535334
lol why is it shaped like a penis

>>10535394
Because it is a game boy.

>>10534426
>>10535081
Cheers.

>>10534682
Does your mom still order your food for you too?

>>10534475
Steamie dick has pwm and kills your eyes

If only Odin 2 can play windows game as well

>>10536056
>windows games
like what?

>>10536056
The windows emulators are getting better and better. Soon.

>>10536061
Now that I think about it, most Windows game I want to play has already ported to switch (Bloodstained, Musou games) and I hope Odin 2 can emulate those. So that just leaves Nioh 2

>>10536074
>Bloodstained
Which one? pretty sure 2 of them are on the switch, I may try them up

>>10536083
Only the main one (Ritual of the Night) that has been ported to switch sadly

>>10536105
Eh scratch that, all of them already ported. Nice!

>>10536108
RotN actually has an Android port, check and see if that's better than emulating the Switch version.

CotM 1/2, as well as Inti Creates other 8-bit style retro platformers (Mighty Gunvolt Burst, Blaster Master Act Zero trilogy) will probably be trivial to emulate on Odin 2.

>>10534475
You get the legion go

>>10534624
I wonder who made the R36S? Anbernic? DataFrog? Powkiddy? Other?

>heard about people selling their RP3+s after the RP4 was announced
>saw one with 9 minutes left to bid on ebay
>already owned an RP2S, but bid $20 higher than the current bid anyway just to be a prick and raise the price for everyone else
>ended up winning
God. Fucking. Dammit. Should I just go with it?

>>10536270
you deserve it shlomo

>>10536267
A company called Pocket Boy/Game Consoie. Don't know why you would ever assume it was Anbernic or Powkiddy considering everything that fucking happened.

>>10536285
Alright then. I know what you mean by Anbernic, and not just the PR Twitterbrain activity, but also the needless rehashes. Not in the know about Powkiddy's current dilemmas though.

>>10536285
Everyone assumed every chinaheld maker is the same company when taki thought miyoo was powkiddy. (The fact he thought this should've tipped people off about his lack of knowledge)

>>10536285
>considering everything that fucking happened
What exactly fucking happened?

>>10536376
The R35S was shut down within a couple of weeks because it was plagiarizing Powkiddy's RGB20S and Powkiddy has ton of pull with online Chinese retailers, so the R36S was made to replace it. It plagiarizes the Anbernic RG353V board but nobody gives a fuck after Anbernic fucked with the whole OS situation. Powkiddy and Anbernic are victims of this company, they're not stealthily making them.

>>10536402
Ackshulaly the dude Powkiddy commissioned to design the RGB20S's PCB was then contacted by Pocket Boy. There was no theft done, but as you said Powkiddy has a ton of weight to throw around so retailers just stopped selling it out of respect. Nothing was ever actually stolen or broke copyright.

>>10536402
Well, then there's also the fact that Mainland Chinese, Hong Kong, at least several SE Asian nations and many nations in Eastern Europe, as well as Pakistan, & India typically don't hold very much value in IP law due to either vague or in certain cases contradictory laws, dominant cultural attitudes, as well as little if any enforcement of laws that did manage to be ratified.

>>10536402
>>10536406
Imagine being a chink handheld manufacturer packing them with SD cards full of stolen ROMs, and getting mad at having your work stolen.

>>10536487
>stolen ROMS
Fuck you, Kozumi, you copyright OCD fuck. I hope you get Kurushi'd

>>10532716
I tried this before. But the gamepads I tried were awful. The bluetooth would drop out, the gamepads were always running out of battery - and then I got a first gen GPD XD, which still works pretty well like 5 years later, though the stock launcher was shit, but I'm sure like nearly every android device in the past decade "the battery is not easy to replace" will eventually becone a problem. It's a lot better than the v90 I picked up for my wife, though she likes its formfactor.

Which phone-accessories make that not an awful experience in 2023?

>>10536270
>just to be a prick and raise the price for everyone else
You got what you deserve

>>10536270
So you're just impulsive and bad with money, and now you're coming here to lie to strangers and say you did it out of malice as some sort of abstract cope?

>>10535334
It's official, Chinese cocks have a hinge.

>>10536615
Have NEVER had an issue with any blue tooth controller.

>>10534795
Ha. I did the exact same thing. They fucking take forever to scrape all the art and videos though.

>>10536352
proof of him saying this? or you just making shit up

>>10536914
Really? Huh. I have found bluetooth controllers unpaired from my phone regularly and I got fed up. The ipega thing I bought had good reviews at the time too.

Admittedly, xbone and ps3 controllers stay nicely paired with my nvidia shield android tv box - but, thats not portable.

Hello, Jarid Carlson.

>>10536105
>Only the main one (Ritual of the Night) that has been ported to switch sadly
doesn't work according to the wiki, no word on the android port

>>10537018
hi taki, now that the rp4 is out are you going to claim you created that too

Anyone got any hope for the gkd pixel?
I love small machines but don't gkd lock there shit down from cfw?

>>10533514
I dont think anyone knows who fuck made those x handhelds. Who ever makes them probably also does the firmwares since the firmware and skin they use is OLD as shit. Like, jxd era old. I heard the powkiddy branded x handhelds have decentidh specs, but they use some ultra locked down version of android.

>>10537312
still waiting for proof

>>10537543
What's wrong, can't manage without GarlicOS or OnionOS?

>>10537654
nta but literally the first Google result, you're not going to live long in this world if you can't even Google things yourself.
He thought Miyoo was just the name of the product because he originally found it being sold on the Powkiddy store. If you weren't being so belligerent, I never would have learned what an idiot Taki is. So thank you. I now know Taki is an idiot.

>>10537860
powkiddy has always sold other party goods, your screenshot literally proves nothing you trogdolyte; by that train of thought "logitech being acquired by apple confirmed" cause i saw logitech stuff at the apple store!!!

i like the narrative you're making up in your head and neglecting his awareness of miyoo being the pocketgo and bittboy people from as far back as last year when the mini plus wasn't even out yet

>>10537872
>powkiddy has always sold other party goods, your screenshot literally proves nothing you trogdolyte
Confirmed for Taki.

>>10537931
Retroid Pocket 1 is a just a rebranded Powkiddy A19

>>10532701
>corrupted chink SD cards
That's your fault. Don't trust those end-of-the-bin type cards, trash them the moment you get them and install your own shit on Kingstons or Sandisks. Other than that, V90 is a great choice. Got mine new for 15 bucks and it's still kicking. A huge selling point for me apart from the ergonomics and clamshell design was the replaceable nokia battery. I also got every shoulder button to work and after some tinkering, many PS1 games are playable and functional. Not much lag depending on the game, contrarily to what people say. You just need to put some time into it, configurating emulators and stuff.

>>10537853
I don't even have a portable with one of those. But are you going to act like those cfw isn't 100x better than the stock shit these companies ship with these?

Okay so I'm getting offers on my RP3+ but it's still only 60% of what I paid for it originally. At this point do I just pawn it off? I'm kinda lowkey thinking skipping the RP4 and just upgrading to something like the Ally when it drops in price. Feels like a more sensible upgrade than just going from Dreamcast to PS2/GC.

>>10538143
If you want to get more, just sell it with tiny best games and some os like gamma os installed on it. People will pay more to do less.

>>10538119
No act. Depends on the device and company. You're obviously basing this entirely off of your time on subreddits, which is why I brought up Garlic and Onion specifically.

>>10538110

>Unclean shut down detected
>Checking fat32 volume...

Every time I shut it off using the power switch instead of holding start.

Yeah this will not be a daily driver for me.

>>10538298

I also followed Russ's guide and Mario Kart performance is abysmal.

>>10536352
>thinks miyoo is powkiddy
if this is the only handheld he's ever seen maybe

>>10538316
>Russ
Please, may he not be the same guy as ETA "AI voiced" Prime nor Retro Goy corps.

Is that time of the year again https://strawpoll.com/ajnEO0zb9ZW

>>10538356
Those things were clones of the PocketGO, which itself was a clone of the GCW Zero.

Anbernic RG350 series was also a GCW Zero clone, and they're up to doing much better things now.

GCW Zero was a Kickstarter attempt to revive what GamePark did with the GP2X / Wiz / Caanoo; open source handheld that had its own homebrew environment and some commercial releases (but realistically most people used it for emulators).
A few of the dedicated GCW Zero apps like the Unnamed Monkey Game demo would run on the GCW Zero clones.

Honestly I'm glad we've moved beyond the days of OpenDingux handhelds, build quality and ergonomics have generally improved too.
The scene is still heavily reliant on the volunteer work of people making working firmwares where the Chinese hardware manufacturers just don't.

>>10538397
>GP2X
God that was soul. I only had the original model but I played through so much on the NeoGeo and Genesis library on that thing.

I really wish we had more native Linux devices instead of the Android jank that most of them ship with now.

>>10538359
Retard.

>>10538359
At least they're not Joey's Retro Handhelds...

>>10538506
Oh suuuuuuuuuuuuuure...
Is that all ya got, fuckwit?

I grew up in the 90s playing SNES with my mom. She told me yesterday she wants to play all the old games we loved again (super Mario, Zelda link to the past, donkey kong country) but she wants it handheld.

I don't really know anything about modern handheld games. She doesn't want a switch, but she needs a screen bigger than like a gameboy. I googled and saw a ton of handheld emulators but they all had mixed reviews.

TLDR what are options for playing old snes games handheld with a screen big enough for a 55yr old woman

I got a ROG Ally and I am enjoying it.

>>10538684
Most chinese consoles nowadays have bigger screens than the game boy. Checkout the RGB30 which is very popular, have a big screen, have good software too and is cheap.

>>10538359
Russ is the reddit game uncle yeah.

>>10538718
What do you mean by good software? I don't know anything about these things. Is it something user-friendly for someone who isn't tech-savvy?

>>10538802
>Is it something user-friendly for someone who isn't tech-savvy?
Not 100% sadly.
Out of the box the experience with chinkhelds is usually just "ok", some do come preloaded with games.

But generally you want to throw away the sd card that came with it, then format flash a branded SD card with CFW (or just roms depending).

You may also need to get into emulator settings to tweak things to your liking, default settings can be not optimal a lot of times.

That said, it's not hard, and there's tons of step by step videos that teach you how to do it for all these handhelds.

>>10538831
What options are there if I want to avoid all that? Like I said this is for a 55yr old woman who knows even less than I do about any of that stuff.

Should I just get her something like a switch anyway?

>>10538851

Get her an sf2000.

Literally no tinkering required and is cheap

>>10538857
imagine getting a random person a device that can turn 18650 batteries into a house fire if you leave the device on until it dies then charge it

Anyone got the RG Arc yet? Curious how the buttons feel compared to a real genesis 6 button controller (This is the GOAT controller in my opinion)

>>10538851

A miyoo mini is better quality than an sf2000 and no more tinkering required after installing OnionOs. Also sf2000 has this thing with snes where you have to start a game, then exit it out of it, then restart it - not to get slow down.

>>10538851
I think some firmware's have kid modes that disable hotkeys to get into settings after tinkering, but I've never seen it in practice. Can your mother use an android phone with zero problems? Then she could use an android handheld with zero problems too.

>>10538887
I think multicore fixed that, but I don't think that thing's getting a cfw anytime soon. Devs moved on from mips devices for good.

>>10538684
>>10538851
If you still have your snes and games it might be worth it to get a clone console, since it's your mom playing it. Otherwise do the first time setup yourself if you get her an emulator handheld.

>>10538298
Allegedly there's a mod that takes care of that but personally I can't be bothered. I simply remember to do the thing, but I must admit it pisses me off when a game crashes so bad that every control is completely frozen and I must shutdown without all the procedure. Then you just pray you didn't corrupt something.

>>10538316
I wouldn't know, I don't play that kind of games. I'm not judging though. Sometimes I need to juggle around too with some games, but yeah, you can't fix all of them. Still, we're talking about GBA here. Is it really that hopeless? Did you try different emulators?

>>10538884
Yeah I got one, the face buttons are utterly sensational. Not quite as good as the real thing in part because they're a bit smaller and the feel of the press is just a touch off, but pretty easily my favorite face buttons I've ever used on a handheld. The travel is just about perfect, the shape of the ABC are just about perfect, the curve/arrangement is perfect, and the thunk and mashability when actually pressing them is superb. I've seen one guy say he found mashing them wore his thumb out, but that's certainly not the case for me at least. Also while I said the buttons are a little smaller than on real MD\SS controllers, they're still by far the biggest face buttons I've ever seen on a handheld I've owned, including the Steam Deck. The XYZ buttons are just flat rather than convex on MD/SS controllers, but they still feel great.

>>10538903
>>10538896
>>10538887
>>10538881
So an SF2000 will explode on her.

Between a rgb30 and a miyoo mini, which would be the easier setup?

>>10539043
Onion os on the mini and plus is probably the most untech savy person firmware on the market.

>>10539043
>miyoo mini
Don't do this to her, buddy. If she doesn't already have arthritis at 55, she will after using one of these. I'd imagine the 2.8" screen is also going to be too small for her boomer eyes.

Set up for both is exactly the same: flash an image to an SD card and drop your roms in their respective folders. After that she can just use it to select her game and play, it's idiot proof. Here's a guide
https://retrogamecorps.com/2023/10/27/powkiddy-rgb30-starter-guide/
The only thing you actually need to do here is in the "JELOS installation" and "Adding roms" sections, but you can do more if you want to make it prettier or more bespoke for her.

>>10537931
>i got called out and ran out of material
kek

>>10539058
How does Onion OS handle dirty shitdowns?

>>10536615
Get the BackBone controller, it connects to your phone directly over USB C. There's a PlayStation edition one but the only difference is the face buttons and color, so it's down to personal preference.

>https://www.goretroid.com/collections/frontpage/products/retroid-pocket-2s-metal-edition-handheld?sca_ref=3745859.lJwNZhCCEB
>RP2S Metal for $150
ruro
rumao

>>10539327
I think you only have to worry about that on devices with power switches. (Rg300, 64bit game v90, m17)

>>10539387
muh premium

Hmm, yes. my favorite, Angry Birds for the NES.

>>10538997
Thanks, that sounds really good. Will definitely be picking one up.

>>10539387
Metalfags deserve it

>>10539583
holy... fucking... kino...

>>10539435
Wait, how do you shut off ones without power buttons? (I have a v90 and a GPD XD)

>>10539335
Fuck, thats an expensive controller.

>>10539647
(The XD of course, runs Android)

>>10539647
The mini plus has a button. He's talking about swtiches.
>Controller.
Leadjoy has a backbone cloen but I cant find any reviews of the android versions.

>>10539583
>Courage to innovate...
>..Dominate the world...

>>10539656
>XD
get out.

Is a modded 3ds the best retro handheld?

>>10539714
>Get out.
Is having a meltdown about android-based emulator handhelds a thing? It runs games alright, and handles PS1 games a lot better than the v90 does. It also doesn't shit itself when you shut it off with the power button and make you do a goofy shutdown ritual like a PC. (I know it runs linux but I've seen people make custom linux builds that handle sudden power loss shutdowns gracefully, it can be done).
But I'm genuinely curious. What's your issue?

>>10539769
It can run 3ds, NDS and GBA but screen is fucking terrible, I honestly can't stand it

>>10539058
MinUI probably beats onion os

>>10539771
Its a meme.
>>10539797
Minui is not only retard proof, but it also looks nice.

>>10539583
And they say that the chinese don't have SOVL.

>>10539797

No. Minui doesn't have a filter or favorites option built in. Shaun Inman is too much of a hipster to implement a simple file list filter in the UI. Which is crap if you're using a large rom set.

>>10539814

Minui is simple - but Trimui pulled some shit where they required the update files to have a different name on the Trimui model S - so Minui stopped supporting the device, where as the GDMenu guys simply renamed their update file for that device and moved on. Also if you try to do the update on a newer model S rolling back to 1.05 as the github recommends it now gives you a white screen, so I actually had to roll the OS back to 1.06 and figure out the renaming trick for myself because its mentioned nowhere in github, but the GDMenu guys put it in their readme. Stock is almost better than both in terms of usability at this point - but doesn't have the better rom/emulator optimizations.

It is not only not retard proof, on some devices, it's actually difficult for regular people.

>>10538932

>I simply remember to do the thing

I own 10 other handhelds. None of them require a special shutoff.

>>10539892
Yeah, it behaves like a linux laptop instead of a handheld. But I agree thats obnoxious for a handheld. It's annoying for me, and it's just not going to happen with a little kid. Ideally something like a read only SD with saves on a separate SD would be handy.

Man, I was gonna say it's still the retroid pocket 3+, but with the announcement, I think it's finally for an update

Lads, I'm thinkin' it's the retroid pocket 4+

>>10539918

Even if they made it so the "main" partition was treated read only, and they had a separate saves partition that was more dynamic.

>>10539879

Also unlike OnionOS - MinUI uses its own folder tree instead of adapting to stock, so you have to move your files to each directory. Which you should get used to - as creating a favorites folder for each device is the "clever trick" to get around writing a simple filter. The whole thing is a showcase of great implementation and bad usability choices at the same time.

>>10539924
Yeah, even that would be better. Make a special boot mode you can do to make changes, but otherwise boot it with a read only partition or sd.

>>10539879

No search option, either.

>>10532590

I would love to go to Russ's place. Put my feet up on his nice furniture and have him pass me some hacked to death chinkheld prototype to mess around while he goes off into the next room to cook us a wonderful, gluten free paleo meal.

https://thedomesticman.com/

>>10538881

>imagine getting a random person a device that can turn 18650 batteries into a house fire if you leave the device on until it dies then charge it

Is there a single incidence of this happening anywhere on the planet or is this just "battery looks cheap so is dangerous" type rhetoric?

>>10540131
18650s arent dangerous if you handle them correctly but the sf2000 has no over-discharge prevention, so it will discharge the batteries to dangerously low levels, which is a huge danger when you attempt to charge them again

>>10534795
Based

>>10538851
First of all if I were you I spend maybe a week reading threads like this one or watching youtubers to get a foothold. Eventually you will recognize brands, firmwares, and whatnot. IF you don't do this, you are wasting your money.

Second, you may buy a handheld and do all the customization yourself, which is probably the best idea. Or you may buy them preinstalled but they are more expensive, usually the software is obsolete and under performs, the sd cards are slow and breaks in a couple of months, and they feature thousands of games with no filters.

Just to give you an idea I'll drop some famous youtubers reviewing popular products, but give it time and do your research.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIdTcgI24YA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTb6ik1Eb40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRWvXiwTn-w


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpwGLONS7MM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJR0Evx3KS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGjG1_Iuyx8

Also take into account the upload date

>>10539583
>Overlord kid
>"Actually it stands for realizing your dreams dear employees!"
Major kek.

The limited edition GKD Pixel is a purple Eva theme that honestly looks pretty stupid. I'm glad it's not a base colour that's going to be limited, liek white or something. (

>>10540404
Red, Black, Blue, ans Green are the launch colours with the purple Eva one being a limited edition presale one. More colours to come next year. I'm going blue since it reminds me of the Ice Blue GameBoy Pocket.

>>10540407
Not having a square screen for such a tiny display is a big mistake. The only system worth playing here is the game boy. Make it square, underpowered but cheap with good battery, even I would play pokemon hacks.

>>10532928
You are wrong. I suggest you stop getting your opinions from your favourite YouTubers

https://fxtwitter.com/analogue/status/1738930789532811436?s=20

Analogue OS 2.0 dropped with support for screen filters

>>10540683
oh fuck yeah

>>10540404
Have they said what the price is for these yet?

>>10540628
You don't need to get offended. It's a story for children anyway though the gameplay is solid.

>>10532928
LttP isn't an ARPG, lmfao

>>10541052
Swordfighting is an RPG element

>>10541102
So are walking and dialogue, I guess Super Mario World is a fucking ARPG to you as well?

>>10541112
Metroidvania

>>10541052
How is it not an ARPG?

>>10532928
I dunno about best, but it is good. The combat could be a bit more varied. Some newer indie ARPG dungeon crawlers have better game mechanics. Wizard of Legend and Moonlighter come to mind.

>>10541208
The lack of the entire fucking RPG part for starters. No, gaining more health doesn't count as leveling up. It's an Action Adventure game, always has been.

>>10541265
>RPG means levelups!
Wut. Tell that to the TTRPGs that have similarly limited levelup mechanics.
No. JRPG means it's a linear story with actual gameplay and controlling your guy(s). WRPG means a more method-acting approach + "choices matter".
Zelda is an ARPG because there's a plot and /you control where you go/, and its an action game. Distinct from a metroidvania in that its top down.

Levelup mechanics are common in RPGs, but not at all required. Warcraft 3 has levelup mechanics. It's still an RTS, not an RPG.

>>10532590

Why'd this thing never get english games. What a waste...

>>10541298
Zelda? Action adventure.
Ultima? Rpg
Mystic quest? Rpglite
Boom btw.
>Plot/Control where you go
Sounds like action adventure to me

>>10541298
>Super Mario World is an ARPG because there's a plot and /you contro, where you go/, and its an action game. Distinct from a metroidvania in that its two-player.
Not continuing this with you. Especially when Nintendo themselves officially label it an Action Adventure game and always has, for fuck's sake. All of the Zelda games are action adventure, you don't know what a fucking RPG is.

>>10541298
Tabletop RPGs specifically involve leveling up and creating a character. That's it. Otherwise you're just playing any other strategy board game, but I know your ignorant ass is going to try to argue shit like Risk and Battleship are also RPGs "bEcAuSe YoU'rE pLaYiNg ThE rOlE oF a CoMmAnDeR" levels of retardation.

>>10541314
>Why was this device, that was never released to an English speaking country, never receive any English games?
It's a fucking mystery, my guy

The problem with the term, "RPG" is that most idiots think you're supposed to be playing the role of a specific character, when in reality you're supposed to be filling a class role for an adventuring party. The former are also the type of people when given the opportunity to create a character, they default to just inserting themselves.

>>10541298
SM64 is a Immersive Sim btw, you can't refute this

>>10541452
I mean, playing Super Mario 64 was one of the most immersive experiences in my life. Prior to it, I had only ever played a little bit of Pilot Wings 64, Wave Race 64, and Star Fox 64, all of which you were stuck on vehicles mostly going forward/around a track/map. Super Mario 64 just let you go anywhere, however you wanted, whatever pace you wanted, it was a really immersive... simulation.

>>10541328
>GURPS isn't a tabletop RPG if you use the "train / study to learn new stuff" mechanic rather than handing out xp to 'levelup'.
>Mutants and Masterminds' 'mostly static PL10 characters once campaign starts' is not a Tabletop RPG.
>Classic rpgs like Call of Cthulhu where you get better at skills slowly, by using them, are not Tabletop RPGs.
>Every TTRPG is D&D!
Negative.

>>10541328
>That's it. Otherwise you're just playing any other strategy board game
Are you playing D&D 4th or something?

>>10532823

>>10541465
>Super Mario 64 just let you go anywhere, however you wanted, whatever pace you wanted
I imagine morrowind blew your mind.

>>10541485
$250 please

>>10541528
OK what?

>>10541574
You read correctly, you know that new rp which can emulate ps2? Yes, that's cheaper than the handheld "made in china designed in California" which can emulate only snes.

>>10541636
RP as in RaspberryPi? I've been thinking a Pi Handheld might be a fun project. Or even a Pi Phone.

>>10541643
Retroid Pocket newfriend

>>10541646
Ah. Yes, I am new to this board. I usually just haunt /tg/, but I've been setting up some old games on the living room PC and decided to check out /vr/.

>>10541467
Using a skill to get better at it = LEVELING UP THE SKILL, retard.
It doesn't matter how many times Link slashes his sword in a Zelda title, the volume of times the sword is slashed doesn't improve how effective or proficient Link is from when he first gets it. Changing what you're leveling doesn't change the fact you're fucking leveling something.

>>10541507
It did, so did GTAIII.

does anyone have a recommendation for a controller that will work on bluetooth with my RG353P?

>>10541824
Whatever 8bitdo form factor you think looks comfy/efficient. Otherwise, honestly any Dual Shock 4 or Xbox One wireless controller with a + shaped d-pad.

>>10541816
>I don't mean actual character levels, I mean literally any character improvement!
So, like the Hearts then.
Also, your sword, shield, gloves, armor, quiver, arrows, etc - all upgrade in LttP. The upgrades are permanent stat increases. You don't have to worry about losing your better armor and having to replace it.

And again, not all TTRPGs have character improvement as the default option. See Mutants and Masterminds. It's not uncommon for that to be run as stock PL10, with no expectation of getting more points or moving up to PL11.

Or real life. Work out, get stronger. Study & Practice, learn new skills. Guess it's an RPG too.

>>10541845
New abilities are not leveling up how proficient or powerful an ability is. Again, it doesn't matter how many years you spend slash Link's sword, he's never going to get better at at. The only argument anyone ever had, even twenty fucking years ago, is that you can increase Link's hearts. You can increase Banjo's fucking health in Banjo-Kazooie as well, guess that's now an ARPG as well! You're getting fucking ridiculous here, the argument was ended decades ago, find something more interesting and relevant to be such a piss baby about.

>>10541467
>>10541845
>plays stock L10 M&M
"If I download somebody else's maxed out Skyrim character, then leveling isn't part of the game!"

>>10541845
Larping is in fact not a roleplaying game. It's shitty improv.

>>10541845
>Or real life. Work out, get stronger. Study & Practice, learn new skills. Guess it's an RPG too.
Try to explain what you think leveling up your skills or character in a game is meant to be representing, this ought to be interesting

After reading earlier in the thread, do you have to baby the batteries for all these devices, or just some of them? It wouldn't be that difficult to make sure I never completely drain the battery, but that's still slightly worrying.

>>10541854
>Download a max level save in skyrim
>Retarded comparison that does not apply

PL10 is the default power level recommended in the main book, to which most of the sample pregens are also built. Try again. Thats their "typical super hero" tier. Lower tiers are for street level supers like Daredevil, who are not the avengers, or regular people. The expectation is that the PL is picked by the DM for the type of campaign they want to run, and it stays that way. This is not D&D where anyone "starts at level 1". After the super heroes get their powers and learn to use them, they genwrally stay the same power level unless some plot event super charges them. Like in comic books. Spider-man in 2015 is not wildly more powerful than Spider-man in 1975.

>>10541867
I have never read a single comic book where a super hero isn't constantly getting stronger and learning new ways of using old abilities except for Batman.

>>10541862
He said "leveling up". Then he moved goalposts and said it was any kind of character improvement (but somehow heats and all the permanent character improvements in Zelda don't count?).

Before he backpedaled, what did I take 'level up' as? D&D/FF-ish 'character levels' where suddenly your character has all their numbers to go up.

>>10541871
A lot of them follow the static powered batman formula. Sometimes theres an arc where they power up though story events, and aometimes that becomes the new status quo - while others it gets reset to their old PL.

Either way, PL10 is the recommended campaign level for typical superhero stuff, and other PLs aren't 'I leveled up as is always expected' it's an optional rule or it's the GM deciding to shift the campaign to a higher scale of conflict.

TTRPGs do not necessarily have to have 'nunbers go up', let alone discrete character levels that go up.

>>10541874
If the hearts and new moves makes LttP an ARPG, then the honeycombs and new moves makes Banjo-Kazooie an ARPG.
Zelda's objectively and definitively an Action Adventure game. Especially with how you go about obtaining that extra health and new abilities. If you just systematically receive experience by grinding, no matter what, it's likely an RPG. If you have to complete a specific task to get a specific upgrade needed to progress, it's likely an adventure game. Pokemon has both with their HM bullshit but you primarily advance from leveling and experiencing, so it's an RPG. It'd be an adventure game if you removed the fighting.

>>10541887
Just because the levels aren't going up doesn't change the fact that there's fucking levels and stats associated with those levels my guy. The whole point of the Skyrim character's stats being maxed out is that it can't gain experience like in a L10 run. You are not this stupid.

is mystical ninja an arpg

>>10541863
Depends on the battery and the device. Most of the time it comes down to the device itself. Personally, I've only ever had an issue with my PSP-2000 battery and my launch 2011 3DS battery, both of which bloated like balloons.

>>10541845
New abilities and upgraded abilities aren't stats, you disingenuous piece of shit

>>10541895
>The whole point is the max level skyrim character can't gain experience.
I thought your point had to do with 'cheating' and playing the game in a very different way than what it was designed for not simply not gaining xp regardless of the intended game design.

>>10541924
Upgraded abilities that are literally just permanent "number goes up" are absolutely stats, obtuse retard.

>>10541956
Understandable miscommunication.

>>10541960
What numbers go up when a normal destructive ability needs to be upgraded to destroy more durable barriers? Even in the sense where all an upgrade does is make an ability "twice as strong" where enemies who required two hits now only take one, what number is being doubled? The number of strikes to defeat an enemy in itself isn't a stat. Otherwise Sonic The Hedgehog enemies have health stats and Sonic games are now ARPGs.

>>10541973
Shadow The Hedgehog is literally more of an RPG than any Zelda title is without even considering the health shit.

>>10541973
Youre the one saying "numbers go up=RPG". I pointed out that this ridiculous standard of yours applies to all sorts of shit (including the game you say doesnt count) and does not always apply to RPGs. I can't justify why your standard I think has nothing to do with being an RPG shouldnt apply to other games.

>What number goes up when you do more damage?
Your attack strength. Next question?

>What about breaking new types of barriers
I dunno what thy would jave called it. Barrier-breaking? Either way I'm sure its also a number comparison.

>>10541997
Dude's now talking entirely out of his ass and never designed a game before in his life.
No, there is no "number comparison" in game code for required object/ability X to continue past/interact with object Y unless a person decides to program it that way for some retarded reason. The only numbers typically being used are in reference to speed and angles, in which case literally every video game is an RPG because they have "speed stats".
Also, not every tabletop game is a TTRPG.

>>10541997
You're still arguing Banjo-Kazooie is an ARPG, huh?

I've read a dozen different reasons on why aLttP is a not an RPG but not a single reason on why aLttP is an RPG.
Besides, "it has swordplay", "you play a character", and "you can get stronger". But also that getting stronger isn't even a required part of an RPG. So what makes aLttP an RPG?

>>10541636
wrong, hows the hateraid?

>>10542020
HEY ANALOGUE,
WHY WON'T YOU RESTOCK THE ANALOGUE NT!?

>>10541863
If you're worried about the posts regarding the SF2000, keep in mind that handheld is 20 dollars. Almost all decent devices have overcharge/discharge protection. The SF2000 is just a piece of shit that got memed into mild popularity. All devices from Anbernic, Retroid, AYN, Powkiddy, etc do not have this problem.

>>10542007
>I would program a check for which barriers they can break through with a bunch of strings rather than fast comparisons on a byte!
Oh yeah? What other dumb shit you going to do, pull down entire tables from a database and then search the resulting array yourself it for the single thing you need every time you need one thing from the database? Let me guess; you only write in python and javascript.

>Not every tabletop game is an RPG.
So you ARE saying "TTRPGs that don't revolve around 'numbers go up' no longer count as RPGs"? Then how do you justify Zelda and Castlevania not being RPGs?

>>10542010
I had no interest in the mascot and never played Banjo Kazooie. i can't tell you if I would consider it more than a platformer or not. I've never played it. Jak & Daxter is an Action RPG / Platformer though, and Soul Reaver is an Action RPG Puzzle Game (much like Zelda). If you'd like to argue those, they're games I've actually played.

>>10542091
>Zelda, Castlevania, Jak & Daxter, and Soul Reaver are all RPGs
You're literally just calling every game an RPG where you play as any pre-established character.

>>10542017
duhhhh... you play a role!

My favorite RPG is Crash Bandicoot

>>10541903
Yes!

>>10542091
>Zelda, Castlevania, Jak & Daxter, Soul Reaver
Took it too far, must be your bedtime and you wanted to make one last big push before being tucked in.

>>10542097
By my standards, Zelda, Jak & Daxter, and Soul Reaver are RPGs, and Castlevania is just an Action Platformer. Castlevania is close though, and maybe some of them count. With more freedom of where you can go and what order you can approach the zones, or ways to skip ahead and get to Dracula / whatever, then sure, it counts. But it's the plot + defined character + 'choices matter' that make it some manner of RPG, not "hurr number goes up".

>>10541298
>Warcraft 3 is not an RPG
>>10542091
>Jak & Daxter is an RPG

Note I'm not suggesting Warcraft 3 is an RPG, but there is infinitely more ground for someone to argue Warcraft 3 is an RPG over fucking Jak & Daxter, come fucking on now

>>10542131
>Anything with dialogue and a good/bad game over is an RPG
This still describes 99.99% of video games

Zelda is shit either way, it literally does not matter if it is or isn't an RPG you queers it's not tho

>>10542137
Almost every tabletop RPG plays like a video game strategy or tactics game anyway, so why not, Warcraft 3's an RPG

>>10542150
Yes, Patrick. Mayonnaise is an RPG.

A lot of these genre terms have become so nebulous they barely still function as descriptions. Go ask rougelike fans what actually is a rougelike, for instance. RPG has clearly morphed into a mush word where Halo is an RPG since you play the role of Master Chief, it's not useful aside from some general notion it's going to have levels and stats.

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>>10542048
>"LIMITED" edition mean anything to ya son???
frogpostin again?
...anon?!

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>10542150
>>10542157
No mayonnaise is NOT an RPG.

>>10542158
No, this is purely a generational problem where Gen Z and Common Core has taught them that anything can mean anything but everything is also a black and white binary. These genres are defined, but video games can cross over or have elements of several, much like music or movies but to far more degrees, or even be experimental and not fit within any previously defined genre and trying to shoehorn them into one is idiotic.
But the entire Zelda series is demonstrably an Action Adventure series, always has been. It's an adventure game with action in it. That's it.

>>10542158
>Genre Twrms have become so nebulous they barely function.
Agreed.
>All it gives you is a general notion that it has levels and stats.
I'd say it tells you the game has a plot, and you will have choices that affect the plot / can travel in a big world map and choose where to go rather than rigid linear maps. Stats sure, character levels optional.

But I agree that it tells you very little about the game.

>>10542184
So JRPGs confirmed for not being RPGs as your choices mean fucking nothing.

MY GOOD SIRS! IF I MAY HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE!

THE TIME HAS COME!

THE MOMENT OF TRUTH!!!!!

>>10542193
merry christmas gamesir.

>>10542184
Genres describe a game mechanically. Subgenres exist. "Action RPG" is a fucking subgenre that tells you it's an RPG with real-time action. Phantasy Star Online and World of Warcraft are both Action RPGs, though the fact that they're online RPGs takes precedent, so they're ORPGs/MMORPGs respectfully.

>>10542193
AND YES! A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL!

>>10542207
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7oMBq1vkCM

>>10542209
I just realized the logo is an angry rooster
It's a fucking RAGING COCK

>>10542193
>>10542209
How's the d-pad, sir?

>>10542209
Guys.... I am not shitting you. This controller is fucking perfect!
THUMBSTICKS: orgasmic, they feel aIng, the hall effect is a joy.
BUTTONS: ROBOST, CLICKY, FEELS GOOD
DPAD: perfect amount of travel, slight clicky, not mushy.
TRIGGERS: TOP TRIGGERS, CLICKY, DOESNT FEEL CHEAP. BOTTOM TRIGGERE GO IN ALL THE WAY, DOESN'T FEEL CHEAP, FEELS LIKE AN XBOX L2/R2.
ERGONOMICS: comfortable, not super heavy, feels light weight but solid, easy to hold.

I've done it lads, I've found the perfect telescopic and for under 70$ I am so psyched. My search has come to an endm i have found the Holy Grail of phone controllers.

It's perfect.....in every way

>>10542238
Thumbsticks: they feel amazing*

IN CONCLUSION: The Gamesir G8 Galileo in my humble opinion is the absolute King of all phone controllers, all hail.

>>10542187
Which JRPGs dont have a world map where you get to choose where you go and not just linear levels? If you mean choices that affect the plot - that one is not always present in JRPGs (but it usually is in western RPG titles.)

>>10542238
>Perfect
It does sound very good. Does it support Gyro though? With Gyro you can play a good variety of PC games with it too, and aiming feels nicer in shooters.

>>10542246
That's pretty much what every review I've seen said. Blows every other telescopic controller out of the water and for less money too. The only negative I can think of is that it isn't very pocketable but most of the recent ones haven't. Only the Flydigi Wee 2T was really pocketable and that thing was an overrated piece of shit that made me question if phone people were even right in the head.

>>10542247
You're drunk and alone on Christmas Eve shitposting on /vr/. And that's being charitable.

>>10542253
From a few online searches; it seems that is dependant on your phone; so if your phone supports gyro; then yes.

>>10542147
Speak for yourself, anon. Now go back to playing Mario Lost Levels or SMW.
>>10542162
>>10542160
HAHAHAHAHA NO! Enjoy being tone deaf to criticism, Analogue PR anon.

>>10542258
I'm at the inlaws and I don't get along woth my sister-in-law, it's awkward so I'm posting to /vr/ from my phone rather than interacting with her. Not drunk though.

>>10542270
Okay, that's pretty cool. I dunno if my phone has a gyro module. Yeah. That's a pretty solid sounding controller. USB-C or bluetooth?

I wonder why quite a number of people are turned off by clicky face buttons, and maybe also dpads?

>>10542273
>>10542162
>"No mayonnaise is NOT an RPG."
>"You're tone deaf to criticism, Analogue PR."
...Analogue haters confirmed for thinking mayonnaise is an RPG.

>>10542285
Depends entirely on how they click. The original NDS's clicky buttons are some of the best ever made, while the 3DS's clicky buttons are fucking garbage.

>>10542286
I don't think that Mayonnaise is an RPG, though. Misquote on my part. Now...
GET FUCKED Analogue defense force! You probably do it for free.

>>10542293
What are you even fucking talking about, I'm the one who made this pic

>>10542306
Thats obnoxious. Can you get a better back shell for it?

>>10542331
Of course not! It's not an oversight, it's a deliberate feature!

God just mass produce the Frog Boy Color already

>>10542306
>>10542337
Just print a sticker of a game and place it on the back of your chinkheld, same appearance.

>>10542343
RG35XX samples

>>10542332
No no. I mean can you get a better back shell that's made by someone else, like how there are aftermarket shells for a Gameboy or similar.

>>10542380
Why would anyone who bought an Analogue Pocket want a better back? You seem confused on who would buy an Analogue Pocket.

>>10542380
My guy, people buy the thing BECAUSE the back is so exposed, it's so they can display it on a shelf and have the game within it be seen by guests. You're asking if a framed print of a painting comes with a frame that covers the painting up.

>>10542343
Oh neat. It took me a second look to realize that was a sticker. That's certainly an option if you want the cartridge *look*. The people who want to run real cartridges tend to want FPGA fidelity performance rather than emulation. (I'm happy with emulation, and preferably higher resolutions, HD texture packs, etc, but there are a few games that doesn't work so well for).

>>10542346
I was going to say I really don't give a shit what the back of my device looks like, but then I took a look at it, god bless the chinese.

>>10542403
I pronounce it like, "Con-suey".

>>10540925
They're estimating to be about $55 USD, but $50 for an early bird special.

>>10542238
Enjoy your new controller. Hard to beleive gamesir got it right after the last two.
>>10542256
>Flydigi Wee 2T
The eta prime review perfectly showed what a piece of shit that was
>Eta prime explains how much better the controller has thanks to using micro switches in the dpad
>Tries playing his favorite dreamcast fighter and almost instantly switches to using the stick. Something he NEVER did
>Unlike older and newer controllers with that shape like ipega or fucking daiq, the weet2 needed a complete seperete app to switch to xinput and other modes instead of using a fucking button combo.
>Only way to get around that was to ropt your phone.
>>10542403
R33s fucking when?

>>10542383
>>10542389
Ah. Maybe you're right. I was assuming they essentially wanted a tricked out classic Game Boy that plays actual cartridges, with a better screen and a rechargeable battery, not an art piece. (And that a 'retro-future' style modded actual game boy would make them equally happy).

I thought it was about wanting to play the games combined with a particular kind of hardware autism, not just a display piece.

(You wouldn't need to cover up more of the cart though, you could leave it exposed in the middle and just have the sides go higher up the cart, even if you did want a more functional back shell).

>>10542413
It's faster, cheaper, and ultimately better to just mod a GBC or GBA to have USB-C charging and a better screen. Even if you've never even opened a school calculator before, it's honestly faster, easier, and cheaper than waiting on buying an Analogue.

>>10542428
Yeah, I was thinking it would probably be better if you were fixated on original cartridges. I no longer have most of mine, sadly, and I just emulate them when I want to play them, generally on my PC, but not always.

I wouldnt mind getting my kid a nice emulator handheld (one with a read only system partition for when he lets the batteries die or shuts it off with the power button). Especially if it had bluetooth and minihdmi out that he can't corrupt with a hard shutdown though. (That might have to be a custom pi build or something, but he's only 1, so I have a bit of time to figure that out). Definitely want to get him something nicer (and more child-proof) than the cheap v90 I have; but I don't really care about original hardware. My carts are mostly gone and I'm not going to shell out to replace them, and I'm not going to Ben Heck a handheld playstation with a CD drive like it's 2005 to play my PS1 discs on the go.

>>10542203
jej

>Zgp price
899¥ ≈ $126, 999¥ ≈ $140, 1099¥ ≈ $154
Prices differ for early birds.

>>10542559
I've been interested in a square horizontal device since that LG Wing mod that guy made, but I think I'm just gonna get an Ipega PG-9087 to go with my Galaxy Flip.

Wasn't the gkd pixel supposed to go up for sale today?

My father dumped his Galaxy A52 5G onto me, what can it play up to? It has a Snapdragon 750G.

>>10542595
No, that was yesterday. You missed it and have to wait until the New Year now.
https://retrocn.com/product/gkd-pixel-early-bird/

I really like these telescopic controllers for phones, but most of them seem more focused on being just that, and can't fit wider devices like a tablet... are there any of these controllers that are made with tablets in mind? I'm talking mostly about medium sized tablets, so something like 11' screen and 250mm wide, something like that.

Merry Christmas, by the way. Hope you're all doing well today, my frens.

>>10542596
Full 3DS emulation at 2x resolution and anything below that.

>>10542580
I have and hate that exact model. It randomly disconnects while I'm playing games, which makes it a completely worthless waste of my money.

I let my toddler play with it while I'm gaming with an XBone pad.

>>10542614 salt, contd
>>10542580
Picture this:
>You're playing Spyro. You go to make a jump. Suddenly the 9087 shuts off for no reason.
>You start it back up. It insists on being re-paired with your phone before it'll actually connect.
>It randomly shuts off again like 20 minute later and you get to repeat the process.
Fuck the Ipega 9087. (Yes its possible mine is defective, but I don't want to buy a second one and have the same horseshit).

>>10542629
>Salt contd
>Could my phone's bluetooth module be busted?
Unlikely. I use bluetooth headphones all the time, and have multiple pairs, and all of them work great; it also pairs fine with my car (well, as fine as any other phone does. The 2012 ford sync stereo system is hot garbage).

So I'm pretty sure the ipega is the problem.

>>10542601
Wat?
What does that link have to do with anything? It just says no info.

Anyone order one?

>>10542598
Think about what you're asking for though; a controller that fits a small monitor....comfortably?

>>10542678
>Think about what you're asking for though; a controller that fits a small monitor....comfortably?

>>10542283
USB-C

>>10542683
Saved and noted. Where did you get it, Amazon?

I wonder when more chinkhelds will adopt OLED displays. There's still good LCD displays for 1080p, but AFAIK the only companies that have them are Ayaneo at 1080p/5.5 inches and Anbernic with repurposed Vita displays on the RG505.

>>10542701
Like with everything related to chink parts, when they get cheaper.

>>10542681
Hey! I hope your dream comes true!

>>10542689
I got it from the gamesir website and used the code HONEY10OFF for 10% off. :)

>>10542709
Thank you. Merry Christmas, anon.

>>10542713
Nice! Merry Christmas anon.

>>10541892
In aLttP you crawl dungeons, talk to npcs and visit towns to buy new stuff. Solve quest coming from specific npcs to acquire new items/money, improve your mana and hearts, improve your equipment and acquire new spells, explore the overworld which connects towns, dungeons, forests, castles, mountains to each other. I guess people may not like the label because:
-Nowadays rpg implies "strength, agility, wisdom, etc" because board games have them too instead of the reason why you'd have them to begin with.
-Nintendo has a way to cheese established genres to make them more appealing to the public. If you love rock music, you don't like to think that some sellout commercial music is doing rock too because that would be sacrilegious, so you call it "pop rock" or a different label to make the differences more apparent in spite of the similarities.

Yes, Zelda is not a hardcore rpg but definitely it is what it is not thanks to the "action adventure" genre. Zelda has more in common with Dragon Quest than castlevania or metroid. But again I think it's more a matter of trying to not look "hardcore" at all at a time when RPGs had a big following and hardcore fans.

>>10543109

Paradoxically Miyamoto minimizes the role of rpg in zelda, but I don't think he is completely right.

>Miyamoto: For some people, Zelda is an adventure game in the guise of an RPG. For others, it’s an adventure game in the guise of an action game. The latter might not be able to get away from the preconception that they have to use the strongest weapon to fight the boss.

>Adventure games and RPGs are games where you advance the story through dialogue alone, but we wanted players to actually experience the physical sensation of using a controller and moving the character through the world. We wanted dungeons to be explorable with a simple mapping system. These and similar ideas were what we wanted to experiment with in Zelda. These themes are carried forward in the SFC Zelda as well.

>The Zelda series has never used the word “RPG”. The way I see it, there are some light RPG elements to Zelda—like the fact that your character grows in power as the game progresses—but that’s it. If we expanded on those elements, my sense is that it would be taking the game in the wrong direction.

>In the Zelda series, Link does get stronger as you progress through the game, but that was done in order to to help players who are bad at action games. We wanted the game to get easier as Link gets stronger. In particular, in Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, you can increase your attack, magic, and life to level 8, but I actually wanted to make it go to level 16. I wanted it to be easier.

Horii: The first time I played The Legend of Zelda, I remember thinking “Now this is what an action RPG is supposed to be!” In a pure RPG, you level up via the experience you gain in battles. In The Adventure of Link you level up each time you clear a dungeon, I believe? I admired that choice.

>>10542343
That's clever.

Steamdeck flopped and shitted

>>10542659
Are you illiterate? That WAS the preorder page, preorders are now over, you missed it. You now have to wait until January 14th to order.

>>10542137
Dota is rpg

Never had a handheld before, but I am really interested in the retroid pocket 4, do I need to do a lot of tweaking to get the best performance? is the OS filled with lots of shit or should I expect something like stock android out of the box?

>>10543341
Like, literally never? I would honestly recommend getting a Vita or 3DS for your first handheld device if they weren't all so fucking marked up.

>>10543417
I had a gameboy advanced like 18 years ago (may be somewhere in my old house) and a 3ds that I sold because I never used it

>>10543341
>do I need to do a lot of tweaking to get the best performance?
Not as much as you'd think
>is the OS filled with lots of shit or should I expect something like stock android out of the box?
Retroid devices on particular has a setup wizard the first time you power up the device which let you install or not some programs or services but all the android chinkhelds have a pure android rom

>>10543341
Chinkhelds are tinkering devices first and foremost, with Android ones being less plug and play than Linux. Tweaking is expected out of 6th gen and above and N64 sometimes, some assembly required for Retroarch and frontends too which if you're not familiar with can be a bit of a hurdle. Retroid's build has some nice features like holding down L3 and R3 to enable virtual mouse mode which binds swipe down to the sticks, letting you open the quick menu and change brightness without touching the screen.

Strongly recommend not buying a chinkheld until there's a decent sample size in the wild. Also, these chips are likely to still come short in some 6th gen emulation, so might want to move up to UMPCs if you need something more reliable.

t.RP2S owner

>>10542598

I've seen it on ali before, never bothered to remember it because of how dumb it looked.

>>10543626
Honestly, is there any reason for the bottom screen to not be the same size as the top screen outside of 3DS emulation? I would rather have both screens be the same size.

>>10543635
I imagine it's easier to make the sliding mechanism work if you've got space below

Tourist here who just got a miyoo for Christmas.

I'm now downloading romsets to play, but are there any new games you can play on these other than roms?

I imagine there's a ton of pixel indie stuff on steam that can run on this thing. Does that or will that exist is probably the question I want to ask.

>>10543671
>I imagine there's a ton of pixel indie stuff on steam that can run on this thing.
Yeah, you aren't playing anything like that, your best bet on "new games" are romhacks for the consoles that works on the MM+

>>10543678
I'm assuming because no one will buy them. It's kinda weird to say this but i'm technically pirating these roms, so I don't think anyone would want to waste time developing for something like these.

>>10543712
>>10543671
There's lots of new games.
Homebrew for sega genesis and Gameboy

>>10543712
>I don't think anyone would want to waste time developing for something like these.
Correct, the Miyoo Mini + and any other chinkheld are EMULATION machines
Nothing wrong with pirating roms btw

>>10543712
There's that newish wizard NES game you can buy on steam. It was actually a lot of fun. But yeah, the vast majority of indie pixel games will be too demanding in system specs for your little handheld. They're generally designed to run on at least like, a 10-15-year old windows laptop.

>>10543712
>I'm assuming because no one will buy them.
That's part of the issue, your miyoo mini don't have enough power to run unity based games I'm afraid. Being pixel art doesn't mean is optimized to run on shit hardware.

>>10543723
I remember hating 2D/sprite-based games on the N64 and PS1 back in the day, wondering why every game wasn't 3D. And then I played Symphony of the Night and Door to Phantomile and holy fuck was the blend of 2d and 3D elements fucking amazing.
Yoshi's Story looked like total fucking trash though, which is bizarre after how good the DKC games looked on the SNES. I realize Yoshi's Story wasn't made by Rare but you would think Nintendo would be able to make it look half alright. It should have just been 3D like Kirby was on the N64.

>>10543723
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWQ0591PAxM

Morphcat talked about the limitations they had to design around for Micro Mages. PC pixel art games are just not built around those same limits.

>>10543747
They are made by people who want to "just make games", not understand and master the technical limitations of computer systems. It actually takes a lot of time understanding them and there is no guarantee you will make more money.

>>10543772
Oh. Agreed. It's a bunch of extra effort that's unlikely to earn you any extra money. It makes way more sense to target windows/proton/android - and then consider consoles and iOS; rather than targetting a 40 year old videogame system and working around its hardware limitations to write a brand new 40kb platformer.

Like, Micro Mages is *cool* but I have no motivation to copy them, and I suspect the same goes for most other people making games (especially if theyre a studio).