/vr/ - Retro Games

i dropped this after 3 hours, game is pretty boring and the slowdown is atrocious

For me it's the PSP cross version.

For me, it's the mobile version with higher difficulty, micro-transactions, and no save points before bosses. If you die, you can just pay $2 to revive your party. It's quality of life features like that which make it the best version out there.

>>10514135
I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message.

>>10514135
Agreed, every retro game should be re-released with microtransactions built in. it's so practical to just pop in a few bucks and don't have to worry about game overs.

>>10514064
Good game but fuck random encounters. Symphonia not only got rid of it but is also still the best at balancing encounters

>>10514135
based. real gamers accept the challenge.

>>10514078
FPBP. The first really great Tales game was Tales of Destiny, this one was just too flawed to hit the mark.

>>10514258
Should have come out for PSX and should have been 500mb or less

>>10514064
When will we can play Wolf Team's older titles in English ?

>cd based jrpgs

>>10514643
When you learn English.

>>10514257
isnt this just insert coin to continue

>>10514649
Speak for yourself.

>>10514064
Totally underrated game I just beat it for the first time about a week ago and it's great. My only regret is that I played the SNES instead of the PS1 version.

>>10514078

Overclock emulator

>>10514064
I dropped because of the dungeons design, they copy paste way to many stuff making them confusing to navigate.

>>10514064
Only Tales I've played and one of my favorite SNES games.

>>10514673
I wish there was a way to have the SNES version's music in the PS1 version.
Kinda prefer the old sprites too.

>>10514341
Which of the other 2D tales games are worth playing?

>>10516062
All of them except for Rebirth.

Do any of the later ports/remakes fix the horrific encounter rate of the original? That’s the game’s only serious flaw.

>>10516190
The PS1 version both has a lowered encounter rate and gets rid of the mechanic that increases the encounter rate when you dash. This carries over into the PSP ports too.

>FASTO REIDO!!

>>10514064
None of the other Tales games come close to this one in my opinion. Fantastic setting, storyline, soundtrack, graphics, and gameplay. My only true gripe with the game is the extremely high encounter rate. You can purchase an item to lower the ecounter rate to an acceptable amount, however it is annoying to have to stock up on those every time you go to a town.

>>10516260
For some reason the very first dungeon (small forest with a Mana tree) has extremely high encounter rate that is not present in later dungeons. It's like every 8 steps without Holy water, even Moria gallery is better in that regard. What sucks even more is that you have to visit that tree multiple times.

But still the other forest sucks more, hated looking for that girl that transports you to Ninja village, not sure if it was even necessary to progress the game though.

>>10514064
Does the PS1 version work on the PSP?

>>10516260
>fantastic storyline
What?

People who shit on ToP don't like RPGs.

>>10516373
this

Style over substance.

>>10516384
Style is substance

>>10516342
Bot post. Go back to playing Blizzard games and other western developed bullshit.

>>10514673
You mean the best version?

>>10516260
Hack to fix this when.

>>10516436
What does western developed stuff have anything to do with it? Phantasia's plot is underwritten tripe and not a big reason for playing the game.

>>10516470
I liked the way the SNES version looks but it doesn't have the skits that the PS1 version has and I wish I could've seen them.

>>10516470
Yeah the SNES version is easily the best. I was really disappointed with the music compositions on the PlayStation port, and changes to the aesthetics overall.

The only good tales game is xillia

Only really played the SNES version and I love the hell out of it - except for the utter jank of the combat system.
Most of the harder battles boil down to "who can put the opponent in the corner and stunlock them to death first?", the fact that you need a running start for a jump attack is retarded (and I heard that they dropped it for every other version) and your actions getting interrupted by every fucking thing is annoying as shit.

ToD is peak and Philia is best girl

>>10517081
Which version do I play? I hear the PS1 version is missing content or something, however it looks much nicer than the PS2 version.

>>10517129
PSX, the remake is utterly soulless

>>10517129
The PS1 version plays pretty terribly, whereas the PS2 version changes the story and alters the characters pretty significantly. It's really a choose-your-poison situation, for me the PS1 version simply isn't fun so I swear by the PS2 version. For others the changes are sacrilege.

>>10517139
>>10517161
Probably going to go with the PS1 version simply because of how much nicer it looks, however I recall hearing that the skits were removed from the English version. Kind of a shame.

>>10517167
The English version of every Tales game up to and including Abyss was mutilated in some way or another (either removed skits or removed voice acting). Namco has always mistreated this series horribly.

>>10514258
>Good game but fuck random encounters.
The game gives you access to Holy Bottles right from the start to reduce the amount of random encounters.
Later on you can get an item that permanently lets you decide if you want to raise or lower the random encounter rate.

>>10517182
>Later on you can get an item that permanently lets you decide if you want to raise or lower the random encounter rate.
Wasn't that given at the complete end of the game in the optional bonus dungeon?

>>10514078
fpbp. Yeah, I tried to play this, I really did. however the machanics are just shit for it. Also the input lag was pretty bad in battles. Dropped it half-way through.

>>10514064
This series just never really clicked for me, same with Star Ocean, though i grasped Tales battle system more so.

How does the gba version stack up to other versions? Thats the version i played years ago, but i recently got the snes original and know enough nip now to stumble my way through it.

Reviewers and autists hate the GBA port but I bought it in 2006 and really enjoyed it. I've played and beaten both Tales of Destiny 1 and 2 on the US PS1 and love them too. I don't care for the 3D Tales games.

>>10517297
>>10517327
I don't think it's all that bad, but it's clearly the worst version of the game.

>>10517139
Absolute horseshit. Destiny PS2's aesthetics are great.

>>10517167
Don't. This guy is fucking with you.

>>10517405
If anything, this guy kind mid-poly 3D mixed with artsy 2D embellishments has been a largely lost art since the 6th gen.

>>10517405
My apologies, but I'm going with the PS1 version for the raw 240p pixel art kino.

>>10517405
Holy shit that's FUGLY. But the worst fuckup remains the status screen.

>>10517439
You're missing out on a ton of good skits and one of the best combat systems in the series, anon. Don't make a big mistake.

>>10517414
Not retro but the PS1 and 2 games are, and the PS2 game looks incredible. Behold the peak of 3D models on 2D backgrounds.

>>10516470
>dont get best girl in snes version

>>10517516
There's no rule saying he can't play both versions eventually.

>>10517564
I think PSX Destiny is just a bad game. Wolf Team was just split into the Tales team and tri-Ace and the former were still getting their bearings and try to define an identity for the series.

>ps2 Destiny is bad cause....it just is ok!

>>10517297
Pretty bad. It's just a port of the PS1 version with lower quality sound, fewer voices, no FMVs, the terrible SNES control scheme forward-ported to the GBA, super washed out colors (it was designed for the OG GBA without a backlight), and tons of slowdown. Also the English version is full of typos, mistranslations, and terrible voice acting since it was a rush job pushed by Nintendo at the end of the GBA's lifespan in the US to try and cash-in on the unexpected popularity of Symphonia.

If you can grok Japanese, the best version to play is the PSP version which is a souped up version of the PS1 version. If you want to play in English, the translation patch for the PS1 version is floating out in the ether online and it's pretty good too.

>>10517167
The snes version has no cd loads.

MITSUKETE
YOUR DREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM
KOWAREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
KAKETAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>10517583
Jiggle jiggle

>>10514135
This. They are getting back to the roots of retro gaming and letting you pay to continue. Just like the good old days at the cade

>>10518930
>wtf I didn't know the SNES could SING
I kind of miss being so impressed by simple stuff like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3SA9LuqQgA

>>10517468
You are obviously are mentally ill

>>10516484
Fucks like a tiger.

>>10519070
Funny coping strategy you got there, but I remain correct.

>>10519639
Washed out coloring. My favorite!

>>10519683
And blurry too. What a pointless demake.

>>10517986
INDIGNAYSHUN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na_bRv-Zg00
i played the Absolute Zero translation of the ps1 version and its great

>>10519882
Jesus Christ that sounds fucking awful AND they censored the jew star

https://youtu.be/aAWX1LAVlO0?si=n65R6FVJztbKgkpO&t=20

>>10514064
Amazing game, prefer the original version the best
Shows off the power of the Super Famicom, inb4 Ausfag comes in and starts talking about how it was cheating
>>10516314
yes

>>10520049
>"Shows off the power of the Super Famicom"
>turn-based JRPG
>still slows down constantly
lmao

>>10519882
>What the heck is THAT?
Couldn't have said it better myself.

>>10520082
>turn-based JRPG
At least pretend you've played it.

>>10519735
That screenshot is ugly. ToD isn't Trials of Mana or anything. Its 2D graphics aren't that good.

Five facts about Arche
1) Arche
2) fucks
3) like
4) a
5) tiger!

>>10520442
I wonder whoever came up with that line still thinks that.

>>10514673
Mint has big tits

>>10517583
Who said it was bad. It was constantly called one of the best in the se... oh wait it's translated now. I forgot. The best Tales game is always the one EOPs can't play.

>>10517583
that looks....not good, my man

>>10521272
It's still regularly touted as one of the best by people who have played it. Every game is going to have people who hate it, seeing one person in one thread shouldn't be fuel for your stupid sour grapes meme.

>>10519056
Having an intro song in a Super Nintendo game is impressive.
Having also a dog-version later on in it is amazing.

>>10519991
The English GBA release was bankrolled and heavily supervised by NoA. Other fun additions:

1) all chemistry between the characters is dropped, Arche is no longer horny

2) the cataclysm that ends the world is now called 'Kangaroo'

3) no Yume wa Owaranai

I beat the GBA version recently.
Your game sucks stop shilling it, complete waste of space.

>>10522925
Try shilling my cock in your mouth

>>10519882
OI DWELL AMIDST THE ABOUNDING LIGHT OF HEAVEN

>>10517129
Definitely play the original first. The remake has a mix of improvements and downgrades, and I think it probably doesn't hold up if you don't have the experience of playing the original first.
I've been playing the remake for the first time myself and the main thing keeping me invested is just the voice acting and desire to see all the events in better graphics. The gameplay is theoretically improved but at the same time the encounter rate is doubled and a lot of fights feel way more stale than in the PS1 version since you can barely command other characters at all, it feels like they only use what you tell them to sometimes.

>>10523415
I also want to add that the map design is really ass sometimes in the remake. Like even some towns are disorientating and its hard to make sense of the town's layout.
Some of those dungeons though make me feel like I have to draw a map, they just copy/paste the same rooms and hallways over and over to a crazy degree sometimes.