/vr/ - Retro Games

I love this because the game heavily implies that you fight alongside the sages, like how Impa walked ahead to Bongo Bongo or how Darunia's son points out that you destroyed the dragon with him

>>10508764
It's fascinating how zelda autists continuously highlight non-features and nothing-moments and say how they "discovered this new thing".

>>10508771
Shhh, talk about games you like and grow up

This finale just got more epic

>>10508775
this is dope

Unlike the rupees, this is almost impossible not to miss

>>10508774
>talk about games you like and grow up

Ironic, since that's exactly what you're trying to do.

>>10508774
>new fetish unlocked

>>10508775
>>10508794
Zelda got some satisfying curazy here and there

>>10508797
I always thought the 3DS version added this

>>10508828
>remasters
>adding sovl

Maybe the laugh is how Great Fairies bid Link goodbye like in BotW but this is all Nintendo left in

>>10508764
>25h
not retro

Speaking of BotW, it's nice that Nintendo remembers OoT Ganondorf's thief/assassin/kingslayer roots and original weapon of choice

Quit shilling your gay ass youtube channel, Looygi.

>>10508906
You are the only one shilling it

>>10508861
context? what triggers this?

>>10508938
you aren't supposed to get there as young link

>>10508775
Oh, i didn't know that one.

>>10508764
>You may post whatever you got too

Reminder to play OoT in style

>>10508769
This is 100% a case of shitty localization choices. There is zero room for doubt that it is Ruto speaking here in the original JP.
>Link! Look out-zora! That's not normal water!!
(Zoras often append -zora to the ends of sentences as their sort of verbal tic/役割語)

>>10509091

>>10508771
>Zelda thread
>janny freaking out within 3 min
Name a more iconic duo

>>10509140

>>10509141

>>10509057
Based INT build. I recently noticed the hidden bombshu shop in the back alley, might as well abuse this my next playthrough and have an excuse to splash out

>>10508775
No way, I can't believe it

>>10508821

>>10508764
>ootfag strikes again

>>10509512
>No! Stop posting about a retro game in the retro games board! I don't care! OOT is too popular and it angers me!
You are the problem here. OP's effortposting is rare in nu-/vr/.

>>10509674
I do enjoy all the neat secrets. Does this guy mention the Red Ruppe in the boiling cauldron inside Geurdo Fortress?

>>10508764
Yay, another Zelda thread!

>>10509020

>>10509067
HEEM'D

>>10509357
you can also flip over tektites and other enemies with the tremor and do almost everything you can do with a sword. also fastest way to destroy big and tiny rocks

>>10508893
i like that you can avoid the encounters with skill in zelda 2 almost like in newer jrpgs. zelda 2 is overhated

>>10508767
Is this supposed to be a recent discovery? I knew it back in the 90s because I'm a perv.

>>10508775
I found this one out by accident back in the 90s.

>>10508780
Also knew this one in the 90s.

>>10510653
Based. For it to be known today, one coomer must have tried it without knowing

>>10510628
>never ever a Wizardry style first person Zelda like initially planned
OoT renders have bonkers atmosphere

>>10510590
why did he do it?

>>10509020
>the 3DS version is soulle-

Gerudos change the color of their garment and lipstick depending on whether you're wearing the green/red/blue tunic......... Seduction techniques?

>>10508764
Next year is Smash's 25th too.

>>10510816
Nobody cares Zippo
and where's Spike?

>>10510768
why did wholesome chungus nintendo make kids sexy?

>>10510768
>it's real

>>10510838
Old enough for kisses

>>10508764
A linear game packed with surprises and alternate quests to explore is probably better than just being plopped into a bland open world.

>>10510941
>>10510768
>>10508861
Stuff like this is usually programming quirks

Gerudo lipstick just probably pulls its Hex value for color from the same place Link's tunic does
And then the chest thats probably just the first item in the list and they didnt bother putting anything there for Young Link since he isnt supposed to get there.

>>10509382
Can't help but love Hackazaki

Zelda has a unique reaction to the first few masks. This one supports the theory that the popular fox mask is really a Pikachu reference

I feel lucky I got to play OoT as a kid. Truly an amazing adventure and wonderful world to get immersed in. Have a lot of great memories just fucking around in game with a friend I had.

Since all OP wants to do is post clips one at a time from Looygi Bros.'s "Cool Things about OoT" series of videos. I'll do save everyone some time and just link to them. All 20 of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzL2WprbjHg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZKQprQXFxo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryrSNGYi5eg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrbrlpXSmCY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVw1el2Gf7E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWsDTB2AyzI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDTw63SeKaM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGfJJJW9pXs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bgQLvzKyGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIUZJV1-QJs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3tenwCFNRg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIuUrUa3EZs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6vJzrOR-kQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuTA8QEw0ns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dCkOdHQqHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbLjVYzMevw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqpVG7Daz2Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vlqI3n6-Qk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6brP0l9eR8g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSi8BgCN5Qc
No need to thank me, OP. Keep being a faggot.

>>10511313
>Since all OP wants to do is post clips one at a time
You can't post more than one on 4chan
>I'll do save everyone some time and just link to them
The videos waste your time with sluggish pacing, glitches and humdrum things like chickens not being able to reach you or the carpenter's pants having a tiger print. I separate the wheat from the chaf and edit them. It's obviously also nicer to have them in a thread and in webm form

I would post the links just out of common decency, but I was already accused of advertising even without doing that. Thanks for taking the bullet for me, friend

Only with exploits (like entering the Forest Temple as a kid) you can find that this is true for all the blocks in the game. Ominous

>>10509113

>>10509206
would be better if you could move the camera

>>10511313
>20*10 min videos
>thank me later for saving your time!

>>10508774
>Zoras based on different fish species
Was happy to see that Switch Zelda brought this back.

>>10511524
nta but it does save time based solely on not having to wait for op to post his clips of each video

>>10511585
I hate this. Seeing Link jump throw a flow of burning hot magma as if it's not there kills some of the illusion. Even if there was just a half-heart of damage it'd feel better.

>>10511626
I could try to mod a lava type collision (which you can resist with the Goron Tunic) in.

>>10508764
Probably already known/posted and not sure how obscure it is, but
>Playing Epona's song to a cow will cause it to give you a free helping of Lon Lon Milk
This also makes buying Lon Lon Milk from Talon after getting the bottle entirely redundant.

>>10511650
That'd be sweet. If it does a half-heart of damage each time to make the heart behind it pretty funny.

How would someone who has never played this game before fare with it in 2023? I never played Zelda games growing up but have recently had a hankering to give this a try. Hoping the controls/checkpoints aren't too outdated (would be playing GameCube version). I'd say losing a lot of progress is the #1 enjoyment killer for me when playing retro. Also read about people saying the water temple took them hours and hours to beat on their first playthrough, even as adults. Hope the solutions aren't too cryptic

>>10508764
Not new but I've seen people contest that Zelda was always inspired by Tolkien. It oscillates between subtle and right in your face in Ocarina
>literally starts with a spider (Ungoliant) that poisons magic tree (Trees of Valinor) at the behest of devil-stand-in Ganondorf (Melkor)
>world is a creation of space elves (Ainur)
>story about nine heroes of different races and cultures (nine heroes of the Fellowship) defeating unambiguous evil
>Kokiris are simpletons of small stature hiding in the woods (Fallohides/Hobbits)
>Gorons are brawny hotheads (Dwarves) mining in Death Mountain (Mount Doom) until they rouse a fire monster (Balrog) and find themselves suffering at the claws of a dragon (Smaug)
>Zoras are their obvious counterpart (Elves to Dwarves)
>Gerudos are a swarthy desert tribe with red hair (Easterlings with red headscarves)
>villain covets nothing but (the Triforce of) power (Ring of Power), distorts the natural world, takes up residence in a black tower and commands brutal but simple Moblins (Orcs) and creatures as strange as Morpha (Watcher in the Water)
>the wizard-looking guy who tells you about Sheikah as well as Sheikah (Blue Wizards) themselves are dressed in blue and sent to contest evil but "disappear in the East"

>>10512082

>>10512084

>>10512087

>>10512007
>How would someone who has never played this game before fare with it in 2023?
Still as good as ever. Try the 3DS version if you worry about QoL, the small compromise in le soul doesn't make it bad.

>>10512082
You can't do high fantasy without drawing inspiration from Tolkien.

>>10511214
am i the only one who always saw this as a red nose? everyone says it's an eye

>>10510667
you randomly tried backflipping over his shockwaves?

>>10508775
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>10512007
What I usually recommend is playing some other 90s action adventures/RPGs before playing OoT for the first time. Puts things into perspective. And avoiding spoilery threads like this

>>10512007
I played through it recently after most of my playthroughs being ages ago and only getting as far as the Fire Temple.
It's manageable. Granted, I was playing the PC Port, but the dungeons generally do a good job of guiding you and, as long as you remember to save, I think the only big issue is getting back to where you were in in (I don't think the puzzles and whatnot reset unless it was one that'd reset if you left the dungeon anyway). That said, I think the GC version is prone to freezing, so save often.
> the water temple took them hours and hours to beat on their first playthrough
Yeah, that one's one of the exceptions. As long as you do what you can on each floor it'll still guide you for the most part, but there's a particularly infamous bit about it the key inside the center that is easy to miss. Swapping the Iron Boots on and off is also a reason it takes so long if playing the standard version.

>>10511618
a corall is an fish

do you guys believe metacritic that this is the best game of all time? I mean GTA IV is right below this according to them

>>10508764
This isn't new you retard FAGGOT

>>10512363
It's not a matter of 'believing metacritic'. It's a matter of playing it and realizing, if OoT isn't it, then what is? What exists that would let people honestly say, in unison, that this game, and not OoT deserves the absolute top stop, and wouldn't be tossed aside for something else in a few years.

>>10512363
Metacritic makes slightly more sense if you activate /vr/ rules because every idiot and shill is an approved reviewer now. They also don't do games before 5th gen because data gaps
https://www.metacritic.com/browse/game/?releaseYearMin=1958&releaseYearMax=2007&platform=ps2&platform=dreamcast&platform=nintendo-64&platform=gamecube&platform=gba&platform=ps1&platform=xbox&platform=pc&page=1

You shouldn't take the order seriously, but it's obviously a good indicator that your game is good if it's at the top

>>10509148
That's literally just what Japs call that kind of forest when they don't want to come up with a lore name. This one in particular reads like wikia "trivia".

>>10512526
Yeah, the trope/concept of 迷いの(location) was dated and unoriginal long before its appearance in Mario/Zelda/etc. Shit like this is why you should never dignify these trivia shitters with views on their own platforms to ensure they don't receive financial compensation for doing fucking nothing of value.

>>10508764
The masks the redeads are wearing are a form of branking and mirror punishment—a penal form of poetic justice that reflects the nature of the crime in the means of mental punishment. They were likely meant to be removed eventually, but since the Sheikah were no more, there was no one left to do that.

>SM: The designers kept this in mind, and tried to create scenery that looked like it really existed. There is no particular model used. However, we did use data material from all around the world, such as a photo collection of German castles. There may be parts that reflect the real world.

>"The Shadow Temple, located in the Kakariko Village graveyard. It is a place where the Sheikah, entrusted with the lives of Hyrule's royal family, have historically taken enemies of the royal family to be interrogated or worse. Because it stands as a symbol of Hyrule's dark history, it is taboo for the royal family to speak of this temple and its horrific purpose."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scold%27s_bridle

>>10509050
Not weird. People also envision the chorus of a song or a film's climax first and then come up with ways to get there. It's the formulaic shit they churn out these days where they force themselves to make something without that vision.

>>10508856
Is there any way to summon it in the real game without hacks?

>>10511418
I still think the game should let you time travel wherever you are with an ability you can unlock in endgame. I bet they had ideas for some nice puzzles here but they realized all the effort isn't fun

>>10513716
>time travel wherever you are with an ability you can unlock in endgame
Would've been the ideal thing for Zelda to give you before she gets kidnapped. Mechanically in line with warping in ALttP and transformations in other games as well.

>>10512547
why were humans so retardedly cruel only 100 years ago?

>>10509091
I don't see that tic in the text in your pic.

>>10514315
That's because you can't read Japanese.

>>10514252
We still are today.

>>10508764
Have some of my personal ones minus what I spotted ITT
>can use the Hylian Shield to protect yourself from the flaming boulders
>the squiggly dust things in the Kokiri Forest flying all around you when standing still for a bit
>inaccessible underwater cave in Zora's Domain (their homes?)
>3x ocarina notes if keeping Z or R pressed, allowing for complex melodies (secrets?)
>field theme is adaptive and broken up into a set of 8-bar clips; relaxed if chilling and noisy if there's action
>Z-targeting sounds depend on location/context
>sound design is so good you can even hear Talon's snores getting incrementally louder from a mile away
>can swim faster tapping B
>potion witch always turning her ear to you because hear eyes are bad
>Poes remark that Link looks like Zelda and has a connection with the royal family (Link and Zelda being siblings à la Star Wars would make a lot of sense)
>only need the Iron Boots like seven times in the Water Temple: For the boots to evoke so much scorn, it really shows how much people got filtered
>most overworld mobs have a big alpha you can lure out
>lore-wise, Stalchildren probably still exist in the future but respect adult Link too much
>missable dialogue in which Salia remarks that your ocarina sounds different (Link probably didn't just throw her ocarina away but lost it in the current)
>as someone who has faced his deepest fears is said to have been "in the belly of the beast", the first three dungeons involve entering the mouth of a big creature to prove your courage
>established resources like Deku Tree bark or Dodongo scales and stomach linings
>the Lake Hylia tree's scratches are probably just supposed to let you know that the tree is soft enough for your Hookshot and that there's a dungeon there (marked by Rauru)

>>10510759
OOT 3DS version is alright, just needs a color adjustment to fix the blown-out brightness and needs to adjust some animations to feel weightier. Link's running animations are the first thing that come to mind that need adjustment.

>>10511189
It'd be a weird trick, but it's possible. Another possibility is that Link's tunic texture is used by the Gerudo, not just its palette (assuming that Link's tunic uses palettization; each tunic could be its own unique textures for all I know). Maybe a memory-saving technique, maybe an oversight of some kind.

>>10514252
The average person wasn't much different but there were more people with power who were above the law. Power diminishes your mirror neurons and empathy
>>10514597
Also this

>>10512362
Underrated

>>10514780
>inaccessible underwater cave in Zora's Domain (their homes?)

That's exactly what I was thinking of modding in. The idea that the domain you see is basically a lobby or common area, and they actually all live under the water, which you can't access as an adult because of the ice, is something that makes so much sense.

>>10509062
oot invented dark souls you heard it here

>>10515182
that's not a secret

>>10508774
>cows stuck in stomach walls
>act as switches
Can't believe some people dislike this display of absolute peak soul

>>10512363
OoT just makes sense if you really want to call one game the best. Comprehensive genre and premise that resonates with people, felt genuinely revolutionary and mogged everything similar. The only other game you could say this about is another Zelda but that was held back by shit hardware and misses something. Its aggregate score is just a bonus and rare case of the universe being fair.

>>10514780
>>as someone who has faced his deepest fears is said to have been "in the belly of the beast", the first three dungeons involve entering the mouth of a big creature to prove your courage
You have these in the training grounds too

>>10508780
I thought the hookshot method was the default way you are supposed to defeat him?

How you supposed to do it then?

>>10516863
Hover boots as long as there are enough platforms?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qp4sGBckkI

>>10516863
I just ran over to him and jumped, and while jumping I'd use a jump attack to hit him extra hard.

>>10511219
>never losing your shield to flying shitters again
good to know

You can turn a butterfly into a fairy with a deku stick.

>>10518558
tried this so many times out of curiosity and it never worked. people leave out that you have to slowly walk and pull it away from the swarm

SM64 does the same with Boos and Bowser

>>10518774
OoT credits scene always remind me of ROTJ

>want to replay it on Dolphin because the Cube version seems ideal
>remember Ganondorf's green lizard blood
Guess 1.1 it is for the rest of time

>>10518983
There's some QoL (with bugfixes taken from elsewhere too) for Ocarina vanilla and can be used with a special patcher too to patch in whatever uncensor or censor you wish for:

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5138/

At the end of the page:

"But what if you want to have the censored Fire Temple in OoT Redux, and not exclusive to the Master Quest patch? Or you want the censored Gerudo textures, or you want a higher text speed (like 3x) or want certain features, and not others?

That can easily be changed, thanks to an amazing software called Patcher64+ Tool, which allows you to toggle whatever feature you want on or off according to your liking, so you can create your own custom Ocarina of Time / Master Quest Redux ROM! You can download the software here if you want to customize your own ROM patch:

Patcher64+ Tool

The tool depends on a computer with PowerShell support. Windows 10 is recommended, but other OS that can install PowerShell could also be used."

>>10510653
>>10510669
I knew you could on my first playthrough, because I saw the red dot appear there. Never tried it, though. No sir. Not at all.

>>10512650
Don't think so, unless there's some way to access a debug menu we haven't found yet. IIRC, it was made early in development to test flying enemies, and they probably used an Arwing specifically as a little nod or because they had the model ready.

>>10514252
>one retarded mask vs 700 tons of explosives over some muzzies
we just became more efficient

Copypasted from a previous thread:
>Redeads and Gibdos won't attack you if you walk slowly. If you're adult Link, you can equip the iron boots to make it impossible to move too quickly

>>10519885
the original gerudo shield looks so good

>>10512547
>onions mask

>>10509182
Man that nibba really had an awesomely creepy design

>>10511029
It's often good to avoid extremes. Too linear is just as bad as too much open world. I like what they did in Gothic 2, where you have an open world but if you venture to far into the wilderness early on you just get rekt by big monsters. You can choose your affiliation, but the basic story and progression of objectives stays the same and is largely linear. Those kinds of things. BotW just fucked it all up.

>>10518820
Love the smooth transition between day and night. It's way choppier in many games

>>10520612
I actually tried this myself. Kakariko was such a good playground

>>10520686
>he couldn't position so the sun glare effect looks the same too
one job

>>10521209
His animation is unironically me at work.

>>10508764
Still the GOAT. That it triggers aspies is a nice side effect

>>10514930

>>10508774
>Eyes on the inside
Fromsoft truly is the successor to Zelda

>>10508886
i had action figures of link, zelda, ganondorf, and impa as a kid. ganondorf and impa's knives were included, which was neat.

>>10521928
First they must learn how idyllic places, items and interacting with things works and then combine it all. Give them 20 more years

>>10511464
why is it called a skullwalltula and not a wall skulltula?

>>10508886
It's only like two seconds but Impa is also shown wearing a ninja mask

>>10522058

>>10508767
What did nintendo mean by this?

>>10508769
Saw a recent zfg OOT rando clip on YouTube when he entered the water temple boss room with the boss actor disabled. All the wall and floor textures were all crazy and glitched out. Looked pretty cool

>>10508780
This phase of Ganon used to fuck me up constantly as a kid. I could never get the timing down on returning the energy ball.(I think you can use the hammer too)

>>10508856
Is the Arwing in every version? I could never get it to spawn with GameShark codes.

>>10508860
Weird i never knew that. OOT has so many secrets.

>>10522058
Zelda throws that Ocarina like a Quarterback in this scene, it goes at least 30 yards.

>>10522094

>>10522094
>>10522164
could it be...?

>>10509182
Huh. I always thought you had to let a hand grab you to lure him out.

>>10522071
changing the name of the game save allows arbitrary code execution

>>10508797
He becomes autistic :(

>>10522060
>no red eyes
all the botw sheikah are diluted mutts

>>10510384
OOOOH SHE'S HURT

>>10522201
Always hated how she turns dainty and helpless as soon as she turns into Zelda, with the exception of the final battle where she gets some of the spunk back. Better than what happened with Sheik, I guess.

>>10524003
She did more as Zelda than as Tetra. If anything I wish we had gotten more Tetra and pirate action

>>10522018
Their sideways have always been
>You met an NPC again, congratulations
or
>Good job reading every single item description (looking it up online)
They will never get to Zeldas level but the games are fun

>>10524257
>>You met an NPC again, congratulations
kek

>>10524257
The exception is DaS2, which actually has some interesting sidequests, like the one where you're tasked to kill a bunch of other NPCs.

>>10524003
she shouldn't have lost her tan, and while the king was telling you the legend, you hear ripping sounds in the background, and when it pans back to tetra she cut the dress into a skirt, tossed the heels, cut the gloves into wrist bands, and is taking the gems out of the tiara to sew to her scarf later. she could still be zelda, but mostly tetra.

>>10524003
>>10524539
Like, the games are pretty consistent about Zelda having a different personality from her transformation personas, I don't get what the deal people have with this is.

>>10524593
Tetra is not a magical transformation

>>10524603
Yes, it's the reverse in this case, she transforms into Zelda. Either way, Zelda is spiritually inside someone who she's taken the body of for whatever reason, who has an identity/personality of their own, then becomes 'herself as a princess' through magic.

>>10524539
>and while the king was telling you the legend, you hear ripping sounds in the background, and when it pans back to tetra she cut the dress into a skirt, tossed the heels, cut the gloves into wrist bands, and is taking the gems out of the tiara to sew to her scarf later
Zelda isn't a random anime or Level 5 game. Something that makes Zelda special is how straightforward and grounded it is
>>10524603
>magical transformation
The Triforce has something like genetic memory. When it activates, the code of all the former incarnations kicks in, which in Zelda's case is a princess in a dress

>>10524385
>Lol now kill everyone
That's their third quest type, ala Mephistopheles from DeS

>>10524964
What makes it actually clever is that you don't actually have to kill anyone and all the tasks given can be fulfilled in other ways

>>10508764
the zora king will feel blackfaced if you talk to him with the zora mask

>>10512650
>>10519184
You can spawn the airwing with arbitrary code execution which works on N64 but its very complicated. Im sure theres a ZFG video on it.

>>10519885
Same with others enemies. And maneuvers like rolling and backflips are silent

>>10525649
I don't think you can hug a moblin's face without him attacking though

>>10525910
True

Was literally just doing a lil reverse engineering with bombs and randomly found this hole wtf

>>10527543
These holes can be sensed by controller vibration once you get the stone of agony and have a rumble pak.

>>10511219
>skull mask has this
>bunny ears despawn skullkids
>fox mask is first
c'mon there's gotta be something the spooky mask does

>>10514252
Sin (aka, hatred for God, whether immediately or ultimately).

>>10514597
This

>>10509335
Biggoron Sword still has a defensive stance in the final game but it doesn't seem to be doing anything. Wouldn't surprise me if there were some niche use for it

>>10511626
Would agree but it looks like an easter egg

>>10516649
They really made sure to make everything look more harmless in the remake

>>10508774
that explains why i've always been turned on by hammerhead sharks

>>10521928
if by fromsoft you mean the souls games, they feel more like prototypes with deeper combat and by deeper i mean there are two attack buttons insted of just one

>>10508780
i found out about that one because once when i was just fucking around with the game i made ganon break all the panels and then i was wondering how to get to him, turns out not only can you hookshot to him but to the ceiling as well

>>10514252
we still are, we just pretend we arent

>>10509057
this is the only way to play that game anon

>>10509062
how is that a secret?

>>10510448
i did that instictively the first time i played the game since you could do the same in a link to the past

>>10508764
https://www.bitchute.com/video/G5X4kPszNKmS/

racist ugly face retard cockroachCaucasoid go to hell burn
White sub humans is rotten shit
go fuck you self lmao

>>10524003
i always saw it more like her still trying to process the situation, to be fair after she turns into zelda we dont get to see her again until the end of the game

>>10528421
not everyone is a speedtranner

>>10528384
>two attack buttons insted of just one
>one
8 + 3/items. 2 is pathetic for a game all about combat and nothing else

>>10508775
>>10509062
the charge spin also has iframes, it's a very fun counter style gameplay. don't try it against iron knuckles tho

>>10508780
Those effects on Ganondorf still look pretty great.

>>10508775
More like buggy/shit hit detection. Also
>Going through this much effort to make multiple webms from a Jewtube vid

>>10528994
This thread is some actual mind = blown shit

>>10516632
booba

>>10529352
>More like buggy/shit hit detection.
That selectively affects only the final fight and in a badass way? Random secrets in big boss fights is a Zelda staple

Is the pc port worth it
Why does it take up so much more space than just an emulator

>>10508774
that threesome draws itself

>>10531045
I like it. Some people are anal-apocalypsed over it here because it was originally behind their Burger King cool kid's club on Discord. While I agree locking shit behind servers is fucking stupid, nowadays it's publicly available on their github. Fully customizable controls+HUD along with shit like the option to put stuff on the D-pad, tunics/boots being equipable as items, enabling the cooler 3D models for items, and locking the game to a steady 30 FPS (or higher, if you're weird) is all really nice. There's a lot of other little options and weird shit you can fiddle with, the enemy randomizer is fun, especially when a Deku Baba in the Deku Tree gets replaced with a fucking Iron Knuckle.

TL;DR yeah, it's cool.

>>10531045
>Why does it take up so much more space than just an emulator
(mostly speculation:)
Probably because it's a native port of a game designed for a single specific machine (N64) that now has to be adapted to run on many different machines and graphics APIs.
SoH also added features not included in the original game.
You could probably make a build that's stripped down but only runs on your specific hardware+software combo. And use the direct source port repos instead of the SoH one.
In either case, I don't think the port has been completely handwritten or optimized yet. Lots of it was machine translated where the goal was to match the original ROM, not to produce the most optimal PC game. It's possible they could rewrite parts of the code to produce smaller binaries.
Lots of emulators are old/mature as well so they've gotten closer to perfecting themselves over decades where this native port is relatively young and imperfect.

>>10531092
when did they release it on github?

>>10531092
>Some people are anal-apocalypsed over it here because it was originally behind their Burger King cool kid's club on Discord.
I just like my retro vanilla and not with weird additions, high res, god mode always 2 clicks away and some dumb meme name for the app. But yes having to use Discord to stay updated ain't helping

>>10519139
>>The tool depends on a computer with PowerShell support. Windows 10 is recommended, but other OS that can install PowerShell could also be used."
Is there some secret PowerShell for Linux no one has told me about?

>>10531159
Fucked if I know, but it's there now.

>>10531170
I don't bother with that shit either, but some of those additions are pretty welcome. I mentioned the cooler 3D models earlier, you know how rupees and other items have a different model when you get them out of a chest compared to the ones dropped by slain monsters and bushes? Pic related. You can set it so the fancier models are used at all times.

>>10531174
https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell
Works on pretty much any platform .NET works on. MS maintains their own distributions for the usual popular systems, but of course it's not limited to those.

btw. recommending not saving your game after clearing the last few rooms in ganon's castle. this way you can always fight at least some of the best enemies when you feel like it. not sure if they respawn anywhere

>>10530705
couldn't test the ganon thing yet but iframes after rolling and charge spins definitely feel like intentional fail safes. even a loading screen tip in totk 25 years later tells you to do a spin attack when an enemy is about to attack and oot has very good telegraphing

>>10531092
>literal Mossad spyware
>cool kids' club
Just emulate it.

>>10518790
Wasn't the entire game initially planned as first person?

>>10520630
>first 5 sec
I like this part in Master Quest because it actually wants you to crouch to not get hit

>>10509091
Zoras do a Zorafied desu thing in the JP version?

>>10533049
I believe the Kokiri and Gorons do as well.

>>10509086
>Sega Genesis Aladdin Thief boss trick

>>10511618
Zoras peaked in MM, even though I'm not sure what fish right is supposed to be

Do you think they should remake it the way SE is doing it with VII? Though one complete game and not parts

>>10508775
Wow, a mechanic that's been in video games since Aladdin on the Sega Genesis and probably even earlier.

>>10508764
Wholesome

>>10533385
If it wasn't for the 3DS "remakes" I'd say it's a no-brainer

>>10510674
Modders could make an off brand "Zelda" turn based blobber RPG

When will NINTENDO create a turn based JRPG Zelda game like they do with Mario RPG Paper Mario?

>>10508767
>onto the big statue's... sensitive spots
Just say nipples, Jesus fucking Christ man

>>10533085
>>10533429
>a surfeit of details and optional mechanics invisible to most people isn't cool because some of them were in older games
Will you stop making my Sega bros look retarded

>>10518820
Should've done four hearts

>>10533759
>a turn based JRPG Zelda game
Would be inferior to the actual games in outright every way.

Someone needs to show this to that Egoraptor guy

>>10514252
There are dungeons in Israel where they still do things like that.

>>10522070
It's tricker in the tiny room with Phantom Ganon, the bane of every min health/0 death run. This and picrel

>>10534368
Someone explain to this guy over here how JRPGS work.
Paper Zelda RPG would sell more copies than Metroid.

>>10508889
>TP is just beta OoT

>>10533245
>female Zora using clothes
Trash

>>10536745
desu clothes are hotter than being completely naked. google reactance

Why is the n64 emulation bad

>>10537042
I think it's fine these days

>>10537121
I have to wait a minute to launch a game and it crashes all the time

>>10537143
What emulator? Simple64 and ares load instantly and have very few notable issues on the vast majority of games.

>>10537143
Get Retroarch dood

>>10531353
>enemies not targeted attacking you
Shitposters told me they can't do that. Is this a psyop?

>>10534747
>Phantom Ganon
Awesome experience all around the first time

>>10537165
I just wanna play oot and mm

>>10529028
His cape seems to correctly align to the ground. It's funny how OoT already did like 99% the impressive details we like to point out about WW and TP

>>10508764
>>10508767
>I'm gonna dump some of the latest (no dying soldier or fisherman's hat)
>First thing you dump is the boob hookshot thing which everyone knows about
I hate this board. I hate 4chan. New years resolution, no more of this fucking site.

>>10537361
It also wears out when he takes damage and the pattern is always different

>>10537374

>>10537361
i think they all use the same engine

I booted up OOT because of this thread as someone with limited Zelda experience and its so instantly engrossing its insane. I found myself immediately hooked on the atmosphere in the deku tree. I had given TP a chance in comparison and I was bored

>>10537361
>It's funny how OoT already did like 99% the impressive details we like to point out about WW and TP
There honestly isn't much that the other games afterwards do that you couldn't do in OoT's engine with ease.

>>10537401
That's basically how everyone felt when they first played it on release.

im done playing hidden gems its such bullshit. this game blows everything ive been playing for the past few months out of the water no contest. im only playing mainstream retro games now

Speaking of Ganondorf, picrel was apparently something that inspired Takizawa

>>10508879
The great fairies liking music in ToTK could be a reference to this.

>>10537435
something about highlander really ignited the imagination for some japanese creators (appearance of "sword saint"-type swordmasters and katanas might be one), even though the series isn't too hot. i could see it though, OoT and the first movie both has that general moodiness at times

I can't even recognize one. Wat

>>10508780
First thing also works on Darknuts. Can be a useful but risky way to bait out their attacks if you don't want to gauge distances. Probably just intended as a "fuck you" tho

>>10533385
I'm worried about what they'd do with the art style. It would have to walk a thin line between cel-shading and realism and emulate the 90s anime style, and I'm not sure it would succeed. It doesn't have the stark black shading that MM does, which I think would ttranslate a lot easier to cel-shading, but OoT's style has a lot more subtlety to it. I can't really think of a game that looks how I would want an OoT remake to look.

>>10537909
I always thought Hyrule Field sounded pretty similar to the Zelda series main theme, but I can't really pick out any nods to specific songs.

>>10511418
That webm is a cool one. Good stuff.

>>10537909
probably like 2 seconds bits

>>10533245
MM has good Gorons too. The TP ones would be my fav if they had an actual village or did a bit more

>>10514780
>>can use the Hylian Shield to protect yourself from the flaming boulders

The game literally tells you this

>3x ocarina notes if keeping Z or R pressed, allowing for complex melodies (secrets?)
You can change the pitch or vibrato with the stick. The amount of music you can make with 5 buttons and the stick is mind boggling. Theres probably somebody on youtube doing covers with only the ocarina

>people thought miyamoto was bullshitting when he said there are still secrets in oot people don't know
>that was 10-15 years ago

>>10537435
i never watched this movies but they always look like maximum comfy

>>10539739
First is one good. Do not bother with anything after that, iirc. coincidentally fitting that "there can only be one"

>>10508764
>25th anniversary
Holy shit I'm going to kill myself.

>>10508780
You can also hit Ganondorf with a light arrow when he's charging the dark energy attack

I used to take my nightly shower on school nights, then sit on the floor and in an oversized shirt and boot up OoT on my N64. I would play all the songs on the ocarina, starting with the top row, then doing a "world tour" of the warp songs, then go to bed.

>>10509141
This one is a bit misleading because zelda 1 and alttp use that same melody

>>10514252
Yeah because it's not like there's a multi billion dollar industry built around grooming and mutilating kids right now or anything.

>>10539952
Don't forget censoring crosses in vidya

Got the Collector's Edition for my older brother's birthday in 1998. He was grounded, though, and he always acted like an asshole when it came to who got to play games at any one time, so this initially felt like "my game".

Reading the instructional booklet and seeing all the 3D models of items and descriptions for them was mega kino. I spent so much time in Kokiri Forest, and got filtered after getting to Gohma (I didn't realize you had to "find" her on the ceiling: everything is so dark and muddy in that chamber/lair), so Kokiri Forest and the Lost Woods is still probably the most soulful and wondrous part of the whole game for me. So mysterious and "fenced-in", much like Japan and like how it should probably stay

What are the best ways to emulate OoT/MM right now? I kind of wanna play both after reading this thread but I don't own a 3DS or a Wii anymore.
I saw some random YouTube video of a guy playing what seemed to be the 3DS MM remake but it was actually the original with updated graphics. Was surprised.

>>10540054
Just download either the Mupen64 or ParaLLEl core in the Retroarch settings. IIRC, Mupen64 is better for accuracy and ParaLLEl for enhancements (high res). Most people probably prefer the latter, but since some of OoT's texture seams blow up in high res and it has some pre-rendered backgrounds, I personally lean towards the former and upscaling like 4x/downscaling 1/4 + a soft CRT shader

The games are unironically so good that any way to play them is fine, even 3DS/Citra

>>10540174
The Lost Woods is the one area that the 3DS version flat out massively improves straight up. The flat backgrounds and low res textures really don't look good on the N64 version.

>>10537374
>>10537376
I hope the decomp team (or anyone) goes all the way with the source code. And by that I mean not just getting a 1:1 binary but they humanize all the function and variable names, etc. maybe even document stuff.
I'd love to read the cape physics and tearing implementation. It's kind of remarkable to see something that nice on the N64 and I'm curious if it's straightforward or if some wizardry was involved.
Someone thought of this detail and implemented it and I'd like to respect/appreciate it by reading it.

reminder that OP is a fag who just stole the this idea from somebody else and then made videos of the secrets

>>10540525
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/658248592/#658248808
OP is a little late to the party

Someone please tell me why this looks so good? I can't articulate it

>>10540678
it's called SOUL.
everything in that picture has a realistic quality, yet you can immediately tell it is not real life. everything is exaggerated -- the shininess of the orbs, the contrast of the shadows, the texture of the grass. it mimics our own world, but has a mystical beauty to it that we can never quite replicate in the world. it's ethereal.

>>10512115
>high fantasy
bruh oot is not high fantasy, actually read LOTR and its materials and you can see what the phrase means

>>10512225
>he tried to JUMP over waves of force traveling through the GROUND?? wtffffff

>>10540678
Soul unironically

>>10540678
Because the world was better when OoT was made and you experienced it the first time.

>>10512007
just play a more modern zelda. OoT has aged poorly

>>10540309
Looks like an opacity map. The probably made a few and it picks one randomly.

>>10540702
I've still never seen any explanation as to why we can't recreate soulful Silicon Graphics in modern games.

>>10541756
FORBIDDEN LOST TECHNOLGOY

>>10540678
It leaves stuff up to your imagination. You can only view the temple from that one angle. Whereas new games are like a whore sticking your face into every crevice. Yeah it's fun, but it doesn't have that mystique of a basic panty shot.

>>10541364
u mum aged poorly

>>10541364
It aged so well that even the shoddy 3DS port got 90% scores thrown at it and there was even some hype around the buggy Switch version. You might be thinking of Sonic Adventure (a sixth-generation game!), which gets collectively trashed these days
>Destructoid: This is a great game for the fanatics who like having all their Sonic games on a next generation console. However, if you're a casual fan looking for a masterpiece, all you'll find is a relic that was once considered greatness. It honestly pains me to say that.
>Official Xbox Magazine: Sonic Adventure may have been a 3D revolution for Sega's storied franchise when it debuted in 1999, but in these HD-ified days, it just feel dated.
>IGN: Even as a curiosity, I would advise you give Sonic Adventure a wide berth.
>XGN: Sonic Adventure did not age well at all. The camera is frustrating and the voice overs are very weak. People who are looking for nostalgia could buy this game but even they should wait for Sonic Colors to come out.
>GameShark: There's almost nothing to like about Sonic Adventure. It's clunky and awkward at best, painfully buggy and broken at worst. Its most unforgivable sin, though, is that it's just not fun.
>VideoGamer: Sonic Adventure doesn't just make you realise its age, it also makes you question the world we live in: just how did this ever become the most successful Dreamcast game?
>GameZone: Sonic Adventure isn't the beaming example of Dreamcast development excellence, with its annoying camera issues, unnecessary side character missions and on-and-off gameplay enhancements.

This is actually worth pointing out not only in context of your post but OoT. That almost no one says these things about OoT really shows how well it "aged"

>>10525649
being able to do this is satisfying, those fuckers were spoopy back then

>>10537361
WW enemies are so awesome, especially compared to the soulless ones in SS (BotW is hit and miss). Underappreciated aspect of it.

>>10525649
Slaughtering all of them but casually walking past the last two is such a power move.

>>10508764
>every game ever since in which you can name your horse...

>>10516863
I just walked over to him with my hover boots in playthrough

>>10508764
I got it for present yesterday exact 25 years ago.

>>10543270
same
i remember being so scared of inside the great deku tree and gohma that i didn't play it for like a week after that haha

>>10514252
Russians castrate Ukrainians POWs with rusty blades even now.

>>10543284
While Ukrainians offer Russian POWs cookies and milk

>>10508767
>doesn't mention the tits are also a damaging surface

>>10508764
https://youtu.be/PNbkv_DJ0f0?t=3033
deepest lore

Where are all these " secret" webm come from? or are they OP's OC?

it's not really a secret or anything but i just thought this was good to know

>>10543401
things like this unironically make me think with a childish grin that this game is the GOAT

>>10544394
There's so many little bits here and there, all that attention to detail that really seals it.

>>10544418
I still wonder if they bemoan or eat each other

another little trick, in case you really can't fish

>>10540536
this thread is embarassing after seeing this

>>10544536
>two people have a similar idea
Yeah, how shameful

>>10544551
Not him but OP did not have a "similar idea", he straight up stole the idea. That /v/ post was almost certainly made by the same dude that has posted that same list on /vr/ periodically for almost 2 years now.

>>10508769
> Impa walked ahead to Bongo Bongo or how Darunia's son points out that you destroyed the dragon with him
The sages all got wrecked by the bosses before you even reach them, what are you talking about?

>>10527543
>reverse engineering with bombs
Unironically what?

>>10544580
you're responding to a (clearly inexperienced) player who thinks a well-documented grotto hole is a big secret. you think he's going to respond with something that isn't retarded?

>>10544558
he's been posting his list since 2020
>>/vr/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=big+purple+rupee
OP confirmed a faggot and gay

>>10544592
You can even tell he's read that guy's list because he says "(no dying soldier or fisherman's hat)", but doesn't give any credit to anyone but himself, meanwhile zelda secrets anon credits /vr/ with helping him every time he posts that list. OP is indeed a faggot.

>>10544530
didn't get it till i read filename

>>10528994
Are those iframes, or did he just interrupt their attack animation 1 frame before taking damage?

>>10534592
WHAT this is the first thing in this thread to blow my mind

>>10537014
>Reactance is used to compute amplitude and phase changes of sinusoidal alternating current going through a circuit element. Like resistance, reactance is measured in ohms, with positive values indicating inductive reactance and negative indicating capacitive reactance.
Okay.

>>10508851
>OoT is based on my wife's movie
Neat. They better cast her too

>>10539739
>>10539775
Yeah I just watched the first one for the first time, it's pretty good.

>>10539825
That sounds really comfy, Anon. I'm not sure why I never did anything like that after beating a game. I might go run around some places I like, but I didn't have a nightly routine like that.

>>10544558
>>10544592
>>10544602
>HE COPIED MY LIST!
I'm obviously just clipping videos, anon. Acting like you hold a monopoly on OoT-secrets posting is quite naive also. Enjoy the game and content or do something else

>>10544563
>what are you talking about?
The game

>>10544756
>that pic
Oh, I took "fighting alongside" too literally I guess. Yeah, Darunia fights the dragon while you rescue the hostages, and Ruto explores her temple at the same time as you. It would have been cool to see them more than once, and Saria and Impa at all.

>>10544756
>Acting like you hold a monopoly on OoT-secrets posting is quite naive also. Enjoy the game and content or do something else
so you copied the guy's idea, didn't give anyone else credit like he did, then have the nerve to poo poo any criticism and walk away like a hair-flicking woman? lol get a load of this tranny.>>10544756

I remember Twinmold being really easy the first time I fought him, then on subsequent playthroughs kept running out of magic. Does this fight basically require that super lon lon milk or whatever that gives you infinite magic?

>>10544802
>so you copied the guy's idea
No
>didn't give anyone else credit like he did
Because I didn't want to get banned for advertising a Youtube channel, something I was accused of even without mentioning it. I also don't even understand this hoggish, uncharitable mindset of expecting credit and recognition for every stupid thing you do. I love seeing people simply share stuff I made

>>10519139
Can't say for sure if this tool is the reason but I did this years ago and my version always crashed right before the credits which really spoiled my experience. Just a warning if anyone cares

>>10544336
i can never memorize the ideal angles

>>10541756
Rendering techniques have gotten more accurate and less aesthetically pleasing. Better technology does not translate to better aesthetics, and discourages artistic talent/effort because more of the creative process can be offloaded onto complex simulations for lighting, physics, etc.

>>10544851
There are a bunch of bosses that are usually easy but can be a total bitch if you are a bit unlucky

>>10537435
Holy

>>10544702
you know either link or princess zelda will be brown. my bet is on zelda

>>10508775
Holy shit

>>10540678
I feel you. An actual 3D game with this early prerendered look would be amazing but it doesn't even seem like something indies have on their radar. It's all about intentional outdated PS1 graphics for some reason

Items like the OoT or the MS look like they're carved from the same material. That material is Timeshift Stone in SS (first game in the timeline)

Also, probably already mentioned ITT but there is a unique skeleton outside Ganon's tower that looks like it could've been a ferocious underling of his. OoT 3D, besides making it look less scary, even went a step further and made it unmistakable that it fought and died to a Hyrulean soldier

>>10548193
Remake makes it look like a King Moblin

>>10544514
What's interesting is that the former would be more disturbing.

>>10508764
I knew about this. People didn't know Epona followed you?

>>10548571
i unironically didn't. OR i knew but forgot cos there are so many trivia facts surrounding oot

>>10548184
Good eye.

>>10544580
This amongst other things >>10509062

>>10547290
meds now

>>10548193

>>10550658
Do you live under a rock?

>>10533385
On one hand, a BotW style remake makes a lot of sense and would be interesting. On the other hand, Nintendo knows fans still want linear Zelda and a remake can't be that hard to make, so it would be an ideal traditional Zelda to squeeze in between their open world slops. It could still be a lot more open and denser than the original OoT