/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
SUM TING /VR/Y WONG
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/10413464
https://archive.org/details/shadow-warrior-mapping-kit

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
AD MORTEM FINAL CUT (v1.5.6)
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3exnqm8nxg4gukhj10hcp?rlkey=r5nwzu32pfh2dtefpbjy2p49b
Ad Mortem Guns (DECORATE): https://files.catbox.moe/ihv4l4.zip

FORE/VR/ ALONE (beta 3)
https://files.catbox.moe/u9smv4.zip

=== WHEN IT'S DONE ===
A SERIOUS CASE OF /vr/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/9611406

VIOLENT RUMBLE 2
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/9941720

=== NEWS ===
[12-10] Doom turns 30!

[12-10] Cacowards 2023
https://www.doomworld.com/cacowards/2023/

[12-10] Sigil II released
https://romero.com/sigil

[12-10] Romero + Carmack stream
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2000693432

[12-10] Maximal Doom: 1994 WAD compilation
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/142041

[12-10] Quake 2 CTF tournament
https://q2ctf.eu/tournament/sunday-big-game-vol-14

[12-10] 30 Years with Doom: Russian Doom community megawad
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/142029

[12-09] Eviternity II released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/142015-rc1-eviternity-ii/

[12-08] Polish Community Project - in beta
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/141953

[12-08] Lesser-known Duke games re-released on Evercade
https://evercade.co.uk/dukenukem/

[12-06] Angelic Aviary - Zandronum version released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=69883

[12-07] DBP63: Terminal Voltage released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/141937/

[12-06] Kingpin: Reloaded released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBjyy9QK74A [Embed]

[12-05] Flashback: shareware episode, by Espi and Torn
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/141883

[12-03] Amaze Base (Q2) >>10475964
https://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/maps/abase.zip

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

Almost every 2000s FPS in existence is more fun

>>10499428
Name the fun ones.

>>10499428
Seething.

Those last two threads went way too fast.

>>10499428
90's sisters not like this

Ask John specifically about Doom in a stream specifically about Doom on Doom's 30th anniversary and he still only wants to talk about Quake

>>10499441

>tfw Redshift midi

>>10499441
He is just like me. I think we can all make it, nerd bros

CARMACK FTW

>>10499441
Is he still planning on doing that "anti woke" convention?

>>10499461
I dunno, he spent a lot of time going over how Doom was a more cohesive and accessible platform for modding than Quake ever managed to be.

>>10499019
>Tried ,but there seems to be more problems with halos than them just instadying (like them not moving with the angel)
>>10499019
Come on, I have faith in you, very good work by the way.

>>10499441
n-not here

>>10499424
>new Kurashiki art
She still got it

help, im stuck in this level, already tried give all, still stuck
eviternity ii btw

>>10499680
map25

sigil sucks and will be forgotten in two days.

>>10499441
>how's the cookie you wanna know

Is eviternity 2 gud?

50 shades of graytall slaps hard lads

guess you can download and convert this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwt7Cx5IY_E&list=OLAK5uy_nQHGoUSMrb33BQS7X-V1V6EQLIReEzt0o&index=2

>>10499705
Played the first episode. So far, yea.

>>10499687
Git gud.

>>10497773
where is it?

>>10499743
It's pretty good, yeah. MAP10 was a bit too obtuse in it's progression despite Mechadon doing a very good job signposting with the very limited materials at his disposal. Didn't like the slaughter finish, either.

>>10499680
Have you tried using GZDoom?

>>10499776
>retard man
>damage mappers
rude

>>10499782
>GZDoom
it runs like trash and in qzandronum at least i get to play with my friend

>>10499776
>little waifu
UOH!

>>10499805
And Eviternity 2 requires that you have MBF21 support, which Zandronum will never have.

>>10499776

>>10499776
>cacos valuable

>>10499805
you can play coop just fine with gzdoom

>>10499705
I'm still near the start but so far so good
>>10499776
>angelic place

>>10499828
>doesn't have an economy based on cacodemon trade-off
ngmi

>>10499776
>little waifu needs-

>>10499784
Well, the last thread DID see a lot of discussion on Scuba Steve

Correct me if I'm wrong, because apparently I'm to Dumb to play Doom, or too Rekt to play REKKR.

The easiest way is to simply buy Steam/GOG version of REKKR since the free version on idgames is from '18 and missing two new episodes: SL expansion episode and new VR episode added this January, also some minor fixes as well.
Also commercial version is lacking original bonus E4, one way to play it is a free version from idgames. The other is REKBONUS patch for commercial version, but it has some scary stuff in description like
>Partial support for VR-3KKR (E6) through UMAPINFO! Playable, but definitely not completable, so prepare to idclip
which I absolutely don't understand since the basic commercial version w/o any patches should play VR episode just fine, no?

tl;dr Revae, brother, it's getting out of hands

>>10499508
He already went iirc. I think he's been there twice.

>>10499776

>>10499870
What was this convention anyways

I'm going to be honest, I am finding Sigil II to be fairly underwhelming. The maps need more space and shotgunning this many Barons and Cacos is wearing thin. The Cyber in each map feels very forced (doubly weird as I felt the one in the first map was handled well) and they are just sort of "there".

>>10499424
E-Evil-Eye Chan...!

>>10499675
She's a treasure, a sweary as fuck treasure but a treasure all the same.

>>10499914
I'm on map 6 now, and I'm close to just dropping the wad because this map sucks. Tons of hitscan at the start, barely any health, tons of Barons, and yet another Cyberdemon maze.

>>10499434
wtf

>>10499914
forced is having a 30-second secret in every map.
roaming cybers are fun, wish more maps used em.

>>10499776
>the absolute state of 30th anniversary word cloud
kino

>>10499914
A lot of my problems wouldn't be there if there was a non-secret Berserk in the map,
It's a good risk vs reward item because now you're trading two shotgun shells for some health if you fuck up. The cramped nature of the maps and overall lack of health would be fine otherwise.

>>10499952
Even a chainsaw would be good to have every once in a while just so I don't need to burn ammo on the little guys.

>>10499940

When using WadSmoosh, should I also load the Doom 2 Minor Sprite Fixing Project or the ones for the original Doom (or both/neither)?

>>10499949
>forced is having a 30-second secret in every map.
Sigil 2 has plenty of secrets that lock if you walk too far past them.

>>10499956
Yeah I like talking shit about it generally but it seems like a good counter to all the fucking lost soul spam.

>>10499680
probably bait, but I'll answer anyway

it looks like you're using a port which does not support MBF21
zandronum maybe?

play it with gzdoom/dsda/nugget/woof

>>10499968
Something to make up for the general lack of ammo and number of spongy targets.

>>10499424
What's a good .wad for a black guy that only plays weebshit

>>10499970
>nugget/woof
They crash.

>>10499868
Easiest way to to get the commercial version and slap in the rekbonus patch by brightentayle.
The Bonus episode was originally to fill out the last episode slot from UDoom, and VR-3KKR was for kicks.
The bonus wasn't originally in the SL release because I wanted it all to be plot related. But then I did vrekkr anyway so I dunno.
Anyway... Buy the wooden box copy when I release it. Only 10 will be made. 2 new episodes only for eternity engine.
That's a joke. No new episodes ever.

>>10499982
I had DSDA crash on me multiple times because I bound P to photoshot and trying to use IDKLIP. It didn't even happen at first, but like a few months later it started to crash like 30% of the time.

>>10500000
noomber wasted

>>10500000

>>10499815

>>10499979
FORE/VR/ ALONE (beta 3)
https://files.catbox.moe/u9smv4.zip

Waifu maps

What are some good gameplay mods tht work in zandronum?

>>10499462
Captain Carmack

>>10500006
Thank you.

>>10499982
oh right, they don't like a zero-length sound lump embedded in eviternity2's pwad

they're planning to do minor release to fix this

until then, the only way to play the megawad is to edit it using slade and replace the offending lump with the one posted here
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2743524

>>10500000
Thanks, I'll try the REKBONUS.
>No new episodes ever
Sucks, but still miles better than source port exclusives.

>>10500000
>>10500000
Holy fucking cow Rev
>Anyway... Buy the wooden box copy when I release it.
you got it boss

>>10500058
mod name? looks kino

>>10500054
>oh right, they don't like a zero-length sound lump embedded in eviternity2's pwad
What is the purpose of that file anyway? Is it just there to break compatibility with non-DSDA ports?

>>10500068
Thy Friends Consumed

>>10500054
>zero-length sound lump
whats the fucking point

>>10500035
BYOC. Combined Arms. Fartyguns.

>>10500069
I think it has to do with how they repurposed the Chainsaw into a new weapon, the Perforator
They then had to replace that particular sfx with a silent one, choosing to create a zero-bytes file instead of a zero-duration wav file

>>10500069
>>10500082
It's just easier to add an empty 0 bytes file.
Maybe it was >>10500069 but no one knows so it's just a dumb conspiracy theory.

>>10500061
Eyyy. Good times.
>>10500058
Forgot to mention that VR-3KKR works fine alongside brightentayles patch as well. Or by itself. But it uses a zmapinfo lump because I didn't know about umapinfo at the time I guess.

>>10500069
>Is it just there to break compatibility with non-DSDA ports?
nobody uses DSDA so that might be right

>>10500101
Is it not easier to reference a nonexistent file?

How do I run Eviternity II on zandronum?

>>10500132
You don't.

>Uh, hello? Is your Eviternity II running?

>>10499425
>>10500054
woof 12.0.1 released
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/releases/tag/woof_12.0.1

sigil2 and eviternity2 specific bugfix release

>spend 5 years, 1826 days give or take, making a wad
>can't be bothered to add literally a single damn byte to a file so it could be played on more ports
Some people I just don't understand

>>10500069
>just there to break compatibility with non-DSDA ports
But why? For what reason

>>10500230
Autism.

>>10500226
Explain.

>>10500249
Context clues

>>10500253
I mean explain the single byte to a file bit.

>>10500230
>>10500237
They probably didn't even think about it causing problems somewhere.

>>10500259
Nugget & Woof would crash when they come across a completely empty file.
>>10500262
They never once thought to load the wad up in a different port?

>>10500226
more like

> be the sequel of one of the most well known megawad
> get tested on two ports only

>>10500267
>They never once thought to load the wad up in a different port?
Yeah. People can be very thoughtless or lazy at times.

>>10500270
Did they only have 1 tester?

>>10500259
My bad, it's actually 8 bytes, 7 of them are zeroes.
Top is the current absolute state of Eviternity.
Bottom is all it takes to stop Eviternity from crashing in Woof.

>>10500267
>Nugget & Woof would crash when they come across a completely empty file.
Oh. Weird. Are those the only ones?
>>10500270
Sounds more like thoughtlessness to me. There's a lot of ports out there, and I know dragonfly isn't lazy.

>>10500291
It's just strange, Woof has been quite popular, especially among DW users, for at least 1-2 years already, it's not like it's some obscure/niche port or anything.

>>10499914
Labyrinths and Tight Ropes: The WAD

>>10500000
That's a pretty fucking awesome box.

>>10499950
>little waifu needs gun
We need an Evil Eye-chan companion mod.

>>10500389
She will hate Sigil

>>10500364
Thanks. I made it myself, and 9 others. It it's roughly the same dimensions as a PC DVD case, but a little wider. Gotta do jewel case art now, and get some CDs made.
It's a vanity project really, and I don't know yet what I'm going to do with them. I'll definitely keep one for myself, but a few might end up on eBay, or given away, or something. I'm not going to make enough to warrant the time and money put in either wait I don't think. Just a way to combine hobbies I guess.

>>10500389
Did Substance20 do one already?
>>10500446
It makes it a lot cooler that you made it yourself, even if you don't make some big thing out of doing it.

Mmm crispy bros i can't get the sixth episode on the menu and the levels play the standard tracks

>>10500034
Does it replace the chainsaw with like a really huge sword?

>>10500483
Not yet, it's only a beta.

Add better support for crispy NOW

>>10499424
>Decide to check out Eviternity 2
>On GZDoom
>Had crashing issues with the latest version so I stuck with 4.10
>Load up with Vanilla Essence to at least retain some dignity
>Weird thing happens: with VE off, the torches in the first area that teleport in instantly crash GZDoom; with VE on, it doesn't
>Wack
>Go to MAP02
>Can walk through the railings and get myself softlocked
>Ok that's it
>Try to download DSDA-Doom
>Download button won't fucking work
>FFS
>Cave in and download GZDoom's latest version
>Game crashes before loading a map, even on Doom 2
>Delete gzdoom.ini
>It works
>Go back through the settings
>Turns out the OpenGL renderers are borked on the latest version, but Vulkan works fine
>mfw this entire ordeal

I DONT WANT TO USE GZDOOM
JUST LET ME PLAY EVITERNITY 2

>>10500498
So is the black guy that only plays weebshit

>>10500518
Why would anyone NOT use Vulkan in GZDoom for non-software rendering? Like, at all.

>>10500481
You have to wait for an update, Sigil support was hard-coded since UMAPINFO isn't supported on Crispy.

>>10500531
see >>10500219

>>10500518
delet this

What's the consensus?

>>10500551
not that anon but whats wrong with opengl? i dont like messing around too much with options. opengl works fine 4 me.
also, i stay away from wads such as eviternity 2 or huge ass maps that require this and that, make sure to use X and Y, disable this enable that, fuck off

>>10500560
>furryshit

I think id was lazy with this anniversary

>>10499424
i just finished sigil 2,
Boy howdy i sure love shotgunning baron for the 743762 time
it got better as it went along, but boy first two levels are rough.

7/10
only cheated 5 times give myself soul spheres.

>>10500583
Can't tell if it's a joke since people are mentally ill here but it's made by the Crispy Doom dev

>>10500531
you will install gzdoom and you will filter your textures

>>10500619
UV almost requires finding secrets, for the first few maps anyway. Haven't played all through yet.
The 2nd map has, iirc, 50 health lying around. Unless you go outside and get the soul sphere. But the switch is a false wall and that deterred me from hitting the switch at first.
Also fuck the cyber demon out there. Telefragging him might've been fun except that it seemed random whether he'd be in the right place.
Maybe you're supposed to get him to teleport first, but the protection suit only lasts so long.

>>10500000
those digits only mean you have to do those episodes now

Sigil is not official

>>10500641
Of course it's not, Sandy didn't do like 60% of the maps.

>>10500634
Sigil 2 is like an entire episode of E$M!s, but they're all twice as long.

>>10500621
No John YOU ARE THE MENTALLY ILLS

>>10500583
Dev looks respectable and for once doesn't actually have deceitful animu shit on his git profile

So which remaster/anniversary you liked the most?

>>10500646
there are at least 4 trannies in the contributors list

>>10500650
You should only play sourceports that haven't been updated in over a decade then because all of the active ones have trannies working on them

>>10500643
>60% of the maps
This is not accurate

>>10500641
the office being an entire different company (Kevin Cloud is just the house mom at this point) makes any sense of "official" moot if we don't consider copyright to be a religion.

>>10500648
Not sure about the "most" but I sure liked Quake II new release a lot because it finally made people appreciate it because it's legitimately a good game.

>>10500634
i used resurrect couple of times.
the was glad as time went on it was bare bone items and 2 med-packs and a fucking health bonus an imp jacked off in to cuz he felt like it. really i felt i had nothing for a while. Then it started like playing like regular doom.

Aww, boohoo! Let me play a sad song for you on the world's smallest sector violin

>>10500661
>believing the dude who made sigil and paints his nails
You fell for the meme, newfriend

All i can say, sigil 2 made me really miss the super shotgun.

I recently watched Army of darkness, something about doesn't hold up.
Remember it being way better as a kid.

>>10500583
where?

What's the best way to experience Hexen?

>>10500687
On a side note, Army of Darkness TC is perfectly fine without SSG. It's just like other weapons exist in Doom 1 or something.

>Getting the Perforator in Redshift

Question for the DOOM MAPPERS.
If I load a custom .wad with some textures, how can I make sure that only used textures will be saved in the .wad? Is it automaticaC??c

>>10500686
Anon, I appreciate your interest in DOOM, however...

>>10500707
Doom Builder won't save textures into wad at all. You'll need to move them there using SLADE or something.
SLADE has a function to auto-delete unused textures, but you need to be careful, because it can't identify animation frames and such.

>>10500713
could you point me to a retard-proof tutorial on this? i don't wanna touch slade that looks super complex. i want to use some textures from otex, how do i include them in the wad? do i have to that manually in slade for EACH texture?

>>10500718
Slade really isn't very complex. It's the best and easiest program around for adding, removing, and manipulating files inside of a .wad file

>>10500724
i'm old anon i can't be bothered learning new things, i'm at max lvl. hopefully you're right though

>>10500661
>only e2 and e3

>>10500718
Install SLADE3
Open the wad you intend to release and the resource pack you were using
Copy the following lumps from resource pack, if applicable:
Everything between P_START or P_END (Sometimes it's PP for some reason)
Everything between F_START and F_END (Sometimes FF)
PNAMES
TEXTURE1
TEXTURE2

Use maintenance menu to delete unused flats, textures and patches, in this order. Preferably backup before starting. The first two will produce a list with checkboxes, go through it and uncheck animation frames and switch counterparts (You may use different frames of animated textures in your map to make them no unused)

It really shouldn't be hard to automatically detect animation sequences but apparently it is.

>>10500729
At a base level, making maps for Doom is quite easy, and adding custom textures isn't complex.

>>10500745
thanks but this looks like chinese, i will stick to doom/doom2 textures. cheers

I'm just going to shill for Oubliette Fatalis because it was pretty cool for a single map and managed a great atmosphere even though you're going to question why there are armed zombies in cells, switches to open the cells in plain sight next to the zombies in their cells, and why everyone is so ungrateful over you releasing them from their cells.

>>10500574

>>10499705
Episode I is fantastic, worth a playthrough.
Going through ep.II now, three maps in. It's rather boring honestly.

>>10500770
>actually proper tasteful usage of GZDoom dynamic lighting
neat, might even give it a try in gzd

>>10500718
Literally press this in Slade and you're good to go.

Scuba Steve has a small penis

>>10500661
Sandy is referring to the E1M1 from the 0.5 beta when he says they threw out his level

>>10500687
This pic is weirdly hot...

>>10500809
Don't stick your dick in demon, anon.

>>10500810
But that Viper GTS Japanese porn cartoon taught me "demon pussy is the best pussy"!

>can’t see shit 90% of the time, even with extra brightness
evi2 map01 hasn’t impressed. stop making everything so moody I can’t walk straight. also not sure what I think about muh wing pads
map02 was gud. I thought imps were replaced with the ones that Valiant had? I hate default imps, they never hit you, ever
new pistol is kinda faggy
sleep nao

>>10500815
Honestly I can't blame you. Just look at it, purest sex.

>>10500792
how would you know?
hmmmmmmmmmm

>>10499979
Come to think of it, there are some games with really high effort Dragon Ball mods like that BYOND game but I can't think of a mod for Doom that adapts a particular anime

>>10500823
default imps are not supposed to hit you all the times, they're supposed to make you stay on your toes

>prefer the gameplay of the Build engine, specifically in Blood, plus room-over-room
>building maps in Build looks like hell
fugg. is it hard to get GZDoom to play like Blood or something? also interested in importing custom textures. assuming UDB and SLADE etc is just best at all of this

>>10500846
>is it hard to get GZDoom to play like Blood or something?
Nah. It's called Raze

>>10500827
He was caught waving it about on Discord.

>>10500846
Why can't Doom have build engine style room over room? Not even GZDoom can lets you have overlapping sectors.

>>10500950
Build's room over room is fakery too.

>>10500950
idk lad. I thought this shit would've been solved about a decade back

>>10500950
3d sectors. Its not practical but it works.
Good luck keeping a map too.

>>10500965
>Good luck keeping a map too.
Funny thing is that's one of the things Eternity is great for.

>>10500938
>Discord
this place is a trap for your soul even worse than the chins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF02ESfa_pE
Someone did build style ROR back in 2000

Blood's Cryptic Passage E3 Gothic Library level is SHIT
>dude just find keep finding these grey buttons in a giant library
no thank you. fuck this entire boring episode, dropping it

Alright I made an exception and downloaded gzdoom to play the new eviternity sequel
how do i fix the blurriness?

>>10501003
display options, texture filtering mode, set it to none

>>10500809
I can relate anon. look at the long, girly eyelashes, and the big, smooth, child-bearing hips on that baron hottie. All while bending over and salivating.
She's totally down for a good time.

>>10501012
Holy shit that's way better, thanks

>>10501003
>how do i fix the blurriness?
Sober up

>>10501003
>>10501012
Why does Graf insist on keeping texture filtering on as the default when 99% of the Doom community looks like shit?

>>10501048
It's what his default is.

>>10500950
literally no point in having them. mapping in 2d is the reason doom is where it is now.

>>10501048
*thinks it looks like shit
I got distracted by something else in the middle of my post and didn't finish it properly lel

>>10501050
Hmm, makes sense Graf would try to force his bad taste onto others

>>10501048
it's the superior option

>>10500997
My Plasma Pak experience:
>much better levels
>cultist variants are nice
>all except the orange ones, those guys suck ass but only show up at the end
All the levels felt nice besides e6m4. That place is an absolute shitshow with all that water and no health drops.

>>10501063
Hi Graf

>>10500950
>overlapping sectors
doesnt that fucks up enemies ai in gzdoom?

>>10501064
will give it a go. Cryptic Passage was made by some literally who studio so I'm not surprised it felt so weak

>>10501068
left looks objectively better

>>10501068
>>10501073
Real men play with upscaler to x2, so you get the best of both worlds: pixelated look, crispy, but not so terrible.

>>10501068
what if left looks better on CRT?

>>10501070
My only complaint really with Cryptic Passage was that library level and one really hidden switch that I had to look up. Otherwise I thought most of the maps were really solid.

I was going to post how I'm surprised map I'm making is vanila compatible, but no, I finally found the sport that would crash. Lmao.

I want to make a level pack of 6-7-8 episodes, using only Doom 1 stuff. Two questions:
- Should I use the Doom 2 wad anyway?
- How do I avoid all the hard coded shit? The map with the barons in the original works with some death triggers or something

>>10501101
>- Should I use the Doom 2 wad anyway?
There's little reason not to and equally little reason to, probably only real reason that you like Doom 2 textures better or don't want dynamic intermission screen. I would still use Ultimate Doom to not give impression that there will be SSG.
>- How do I avoid all the hard coded shit? The map with the barons in the original works with some death triggers or something
If you don't want this to happen, just don't have sectors with tag 666. Except for E2M8 and E3M8 which actually end on specific boss death.
UMAPINFO can help you overwrite this behavior or make your own in a way that doesn't require gzDoom.

>>10500639
It's going to be all hard puzzle maps.

>>10501115
Thanks for the info, I'll research more. I've got myself an old DOOM.WAD that contains the 4th episode. Is that the Ultimate Doom? I remember the original didn't have it, but I'm not sure if I have the correct one

>>10501135
The Ultimate Doom contains the 4th episode, the original release doesn't.

>>10501135
>I've got myself an old DOOM.WAD that contains the 4th episode. Is that the Ultimate Doom?
Yes. That's Ultimate Doom. I don't know if anyone still uses original 3-episode Doom.wad for anything.

>>10501135
90% of DOOM.wad and DOOM2.wad floating around online should be the latest "patch" of each
If anyone wants certain idiosyncratic features of old retail releases like teleporter destination height, it's better to use sourceport complevel than specifically use a certain Doom version

>>10501063
>>10501073
Why are trying to bait so hard?

>>10501135
4 episodes is ultimate, yes. Most players would use this one

>>10501152
>>10501148
>>10501141
>>10501139
i need a fifth anon to tell me this i didn't quite get it

Bravo Romero!

>>10500950
Doom uses bsp geometry and build uses wall sorting. Casual bsps would break on overlapping sectors in doom maps, but there existed old rordoom and rorbsp, but you wouldn't want them

>>10501161
There's a ton of slimetrails in this wad too.

>>10501156
is it 11.8 MB? if so that's ultimate doom

>>10501156
Did you know that Super Mario Bros 2 in the west isn't actually the TRUE SMB2, but instead a reskin of a Japan-only game, Doki Doki Panic? The reasoning behind this might shock you!

>>10501161
Hey, source ports devs, if you're reading this! Please accommodate that 362x240 pixels sky. And don't forget a piece of code only for this 6th episode. It's canon cuz it's by d_romer after all

>>10501151
That's just current year /vr/: Baiting, (You) farming and contrarianism

>>10501048
>99% of the Doom community looks like shit?
Exceedingly based freudian slip.

>>10501185
Do you realise there are people who play with texture filtering, yeah? Who are you to judge, I don't understand. The option is there. Is it really that sane to complain about having to go into the options ONCE? It's something you do for literally every game.

>>10499776
>cryptic loads lmao
>waifu needs files
>usually best car old
>great weapon monster happy
>noticed retard man
>literally actual short
>small babes meat page
>thinking already ironstorm somebody

The first to draw a SENSIBLE MAP on PAPER will be the winner. The prize? I'll make the map myself. You have 24h.

>>10501191
I've got nothing against the option existing and I'm sure some people use it, I just think it would make sense for the options to default to what the majority of users use

>>10501048
Graf is an old man who actually remembers when video acceleration kicked off in the late 90s and adding bilinear filtering to games was seen as a big upgrade over the crusty pixels of software rendering.

>>10501202
Define "sensible".

>>10499979
Play literally anything TerminusEst13 has made. Like DemonSteele.

>>10501205
>crusty pixels
The thing is filtering "crusty pixels" often makes them look like shit unless they're relatively high-res to begin with

>>10501191
Yeah, I do know, the only people who play with filtering do it because they don't know any better, that's most people's first source port nowadays. As far as they can tell, that's how the game is supposed to look.

>>10501228
Yes, that's obvious in hindsight. In 1997, though? Between hardware acceleration and FMVs, the perception was that games were finally breaking free of the hard pixel edges that they'd been inseparably associated with since the 70s. Consider the people going nuts over ray tracing now, even though it hasn't been put to much practical use yet and importing it into old games mostly just looks bad and murders performance. Graf falls into the equivalent to that crowd 25 years ago.

Why should I use Nugget Doom over GZ Doom? Maybe a silly question but I don't fully understand the difference between a lot of source ports.

>>10501048

>>10501275
Classic Graf

>>10501259
Some anons will think of you as a more "hardcore" DOOM fan if you play on their "accurate" port.

>>10501275
what gzdoom stands for again?

>>10500579
opengl should be fine, but for some people it's a little slower. if you have a decent system you probably won't notice at all because it's not the heart of gzdoom's performance issues

>>10501259
tfw no big tiddy finnish soldier gf

>>10501259
better for playtesting (your own and other people's maps), due to renderer differences and freelook/freeaim thing
comes with pistolstart toggle and some other minor qol stuff
that's about it I guess, unless you care about muh demo compat

FUCKING HELL FUCK YOU BOOM FORMAT IM GOING TO MAP IN THAT UMFD OR WHATEVER HE FUCK THATS CALLED I CAN WRITE MY OWN SHIT AND TELL FLOORS TO CHANGE BY THE SPEED HOW I WANT WHEN I WANT THE WAY I WANT FUCK YOU DEFAULT ACTIONS!!!!!!!!

How do I disable Hexen enemy spawns? It's all so tiresome...

Is there a wad/pk that makes a sound or something when you switch weapons? I'm interested for feedback when I double tab 3 for regular shotgun.

>>10501317

ok thanks

>>10501321
>not modding your own wads and switching the weapon slot of the super shotgun to your own key

>>10499859
That ain't funny, Carlos.
It's just true.

>>10501275
>it will just get in the way
If its not just simple flag that can be changed then the code for it is ramshackle at best

What if, sci-fi wad where you have only one gun, but need to swap programs for it to do different attacks.
I think instant switching should be doable in any compatibility.

>>10501321
don't know, but in gz you can:
>bind q "use Shotgun"
to skip ssg and select single shotgun directly

>>10500000
>pic
I want it I need it need it to make me feel heated shake it can't take it must break it break it off yeah what I say bitch.

>>10501331
you could call it "combined arms", heh, that'd be clever

>>10501331
>sci-fi wad where you have only one gun, but need to swap programs for it to do different attacks.
What's the difference from having several weapons? You save a few kbits on weapon sprites?

>>10501345
It's mostly an aesthetic concept and an excuse for instant switching, but basically yes.

>>10501342
Spell "Combined Arms" without the P

>>10501349
GMOTA

>>10501332
This extends to the chainsaw and fist, and by extension any mod: Bloated weapon pool and you just want to get to the guns you like, or not so bloated weapon pool but all the guns you have are on the same slot? No big.
This also extends to Half Life in case you want to bypass its weapon groups, or you're playing an SMOD version with 5+ variants of each gun.

>>10501358
>by extension any mod
What about mods that remove weapons?

>>10501358
There are many mods that provide alternative: weapon bars, weapon wheels, etc.

>>10501358
>by extension any mod
well, sort of. since it's common to rename weapons when replacing them, you'd have to use something like
>bind q "use Shotgun; wait; use Shot_Gun"
that's for Brutal Doom, just as an example

>>10499705
I think its an improvement over 1 in many ways. Doesn't feel like it hold its punches too much in the early episodes anymore.
Though I do kinda wish map01 wasn't just a glorified cutscene, or at least was a little shorter.

>>10501362
Sure, why not? If it doesn't exist you'll have to do it yourself, though, and that can sometimes be harder than just making a bind that says 'bind mwheelup "use funderbuster' or something. >>10501374 also brings up a good point in that you'd need to know what the mod names the weapon before binding it.
>>10501371
>There are many mods that provide alternative: weapon bars, weapon wheels, etc.
True, though I was more referencing the ability to "press key, get weapon instantly" as opposed to cycling through weapon menus or similar.
>forgot to set imaging resizing back to 'supersampling' rather than 'nearest neighbor'
oops, was wondering why that last pic looked off.

>>10500467
If it's DoomGals you're talking about, that only has Caco-chan, I think.

>played Ashes 2063 just now
>HUD takes up 1/4 of the screen
>game says it has alt fire, two guns I pick up don't have it, was set to right-click
>have to manually set binds for stuff like the lantern, knife
>cursor isn't centered in the screen
>physics feel too heavy
>tutorial pop-up messages are gigantic
>just throws a ton of cannon fodder enemies right at the start, boring
well that was a waste of 30 minutes. are all conversion wads like this? it feels like Doom 2 being stretched to something it should never be, which I suppose it is

quake but the demons can bunnyhop too
doom 3 but the demons can bunnyhop too
painkiller but the purgatory denizens can bunnyhop too
serious sam but the aliens can run backward too
half life but the aliens are silent and can bunnyhop too

>>10501461
if you're too dumb to rescale your hud, you don't deserve Ashes anyway

>>10501480
I'm more curious as to where the fuck that Anon put his altfire key if not on Mouse2

>>10499780
I just got to map 10 and damn by map 9 the wad just devolves into "xD look how many enemies" and even forgoes secrets or anything.
Pretty dissapointing because the early levels were interesting to play.

>>10501482
it was on mouse 2, it just didn't work somehow

>>10501523
Not all weapons have altfires, but the crowbar you start with does (and if you play on survival you'll get a lot of mileage out of it)

>>10500643
>>10500661

John Romero is an edgy hack who doesn't know how to make fun maps.

Sandy Peterson is a based Mormon who doesn't know anything about design other than having fun.

>>10501540
>Sandy Peterson is a based Mormon
What the fuck are you-
>Petersen is a practicing member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but sees no conflict between his faith and his design of games involving Satanic elements. While working on Doom, he said to John Romero, "I have no problems with the demons in the game. They're just cartoons. And, anyway, they're the bad guys."
>Sandy is married, has five children, and 15 grandchildren.

Holy based. I kneel

>Mappers who aren't anonymous
who cares

>>10501540
>Sandy Peterson is a based Mormon who doesn't know anything about design
visual design maybe. unlike Romero (who faceplanted with impractical weapons and annoying enemies in Daikatana), Sandy went on to successfully make stuff that is much more demanding in terms of game design skills (AoE2, tabletops, etc)

>>10501556
Sandy balanced Doom's enemies and weapons.

>>10501562
If it wasn't for basedman Sandy, DOOM wouldn't have a shotgun.

>>10501603
>it followed a pattern of cashgrabs, so it's not a cashgrab ok?

Has someone posted a link of the SIGIL 2 "commercial release" with the soundtrack and everything?

>>10501327
I guess you could say the validity of future Cacowards is deep underwater.

>>10501603
this shit is so fucking funny to me
him replying to tweets about these ancient games as if it's a really big deal, just having to be right about small technicalities that barely matter

>>10501358
>>10501418
What mapset is this?

>>10501643
The fact that this image isn't even all of them is funny to me

>>10501648
https://www.runthinkshootlive.com/posts/css-sci-fi-3-hardwired/
Basically CS: Source maps repurposed for HL2. I have to play it through SMod Standalone since the main mod wasn't updated after Steam and Source engine updates, but that means I get SMod changes along with the mod's own difficulty improvements.

>>10501549
>Sandy is married, has five children, and 15 grandchildren
I'm pretty sure it's more than that now.

>>10501574
Not quite. Doom 2 wouldn't have a shotgun, only an SSG. He convinced them to keep the og shotgun. I assume for ammo balance.

>>10501331
Ok, but if you can't install banana gun on it, I don't want that.

>>10501562
Is he the reason why E2 and E3 have Berserks in every level? Because that shit is stupid fun.

>>10501331
So Lifeforce Tenka except it's playable?

>>10500982
>Discord is a trap for the soul
In many ways yes. And the same, if not worse can be said for many places on the Tor Network, I2P sites, and other parts of the Deep Web aka Undernet.

>>10501643
There's something sad about this but at least John is being polite in correcting him

Decided to play HL1 again since the new patch and all. Almost played it on my Win98 machine with the Gold version but I don't have a good setup for that yet.

Game is still killer but I can see how much the linear levels affected modern games even to this day. Though, I enjoy a nice linear shooter so I dunno how much of an issue that is for me

>>10501643
More nerd romero vs based sandy please?

>>10501747
why's it so hard to find a good comparison of the 25th anniversary update compared to the old version?

>BOOM maps / VANILLA maps
To me, this is a complete head-scratcher.
Why the fuck are not people using UDMF? Why would anyone look at a Boom-comp and the UDMF and say to themselves: "Mmmh, yeah, I think I'll go with the Boom." Mind blowing to say the least

>>10501761
yawn

>>10501767
I just said it's a head-scratcher.
I guess it's not that hard to believe 50 years old basement nerds who prefer their "muh compatibility" over a universal, nicer format.

>>10501757
Ya know, I can't say about the graphics and it's been a LONG time since I played HL1 on native 98 with A3D but the sound effects don't sound right to me. If I had a way to record Win98 i'd drag out my 98 machine and HL1 Gold version to record and compare.

>>10501643

>>10501767
that's just a straight-up lie
boom is both more complicated to do stuff in AND has less features

>>10501783
lmao
more shoops like this

>>10501761
>To me, this is a complete head-scratcher.
>Why the fuck are not people using UDMF? Why would anyone look at a Boom-comp and the UDMF and say to themselves: "Mmmh, yeah, I think I'll go with the Boom." Mind blowing to say the least
Why did you slightly reword a 2021 Doomworld post?

>>10501167
What is wall sorting?

Time to see how good this guide is

>>10499424
Why are there no Sourceports for Goldsrc software which not only idtech 1, idtech 2, & Quake engine and even for the Janky Build Engine? Even Id Tech 3 has a few working sourceports

>>10499776
>Glowing experience
>Little waifu needs files
>File beat
>Giving plasma
>Fucked mess
>Cacos valuable lost

>>10501775
GZDoom tries many things at once and currently has its damn renderer broken on latest stable, not so much for universal when I will be forcing people to switch for rarely heard alternatives. I guess Eternity is good enough and isn't really abandoned, DSDA new development may also support the cause and amount for a wider change, then k8vavoom with Delphi Doom kinda fell through the cracks and may appeal only to the hippest of the nerds -- road is wide open in a sense, no tell what's on the horizon though.

>>10501828
Xash 3D

>>10501827
Page fucking 1 and it’s already bullshit.
See if you can count the mistakes

>>10501828
The source code for GoldSrc has never been officially released and the only source port that exists for Half-Life is reverse engineered.

>want to give Quake another go, remember not liking it
>also want to just skip it and play Arcane Dimensions instead
is the base game maze-like key hunting and wall humping in ugly levels like Doom?

>>10501850
No, Quake levels are pretty straightforward and navigating them feels pretty smooth.
And I say this as someone with a fucking horrid sense of direction.

>>10501828
It probably hasn't been deemed necessary since you've been able to play it out of the box on Steam for years.

>>10501850
>is the base game maze-like key hunting and wall humping in ugly levels like Doom?
The base game isn't but some of the levels in Arcane Dimensions will feel closer to this.

>>10501839
>those bullet and BFG blast counts
>Imp: 2-3 shotgun blasts
lol, lmao even

>>10501693
Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

how can i make raze look as much like its using the software renderer as possible?

>>10501876
I don't think you can do much beyond enabling palette emulation and fucking around with resolution scale. afaik there's no way to do the classic lens-shift "verticals stay verticals" rendering in raze. to "unblur" the audio, set resampler to nearest.

>>10501852
>>10501854
just played it now, got to E4 The Grisly Grotto
actually feels really nice to play, didn't get lost either, levels feel quite short and sweet (so far at least), also looks quite nice although I'm playing the steam version which was supposedly spruced up by Nightdive
is that generally considered a fine way to play? when I last tried the steam version a few years ago it was a technical mess and needed the pcgamingwiki treatment

>>10501905
yeah it's fine. some updated lighting is still broken (e1m6), but it's not that big a deal

>>10501905
Kex Quake is a fairly adequate way to play the vanilla game and the official mission packs - granted the updated lighting in some maps can be pretty fucky, and I'm not a huge fan of some of the updated models (shamblers REALLY didn't need polygon teeth).
You're definitely going to want to hop over to Ironwail or vkQuake for custom singleplayer content though. Multiplayer is also an absolute lagfest compared to any Quakeworld port.

>>10500687
>>10500809
based gmad bros

>>10500096
I can confirm it was done simply because DSDA required a file there and creating a zero-length file in Slade seemed the easiest solution. I didn't know it would crash Woof as we weren't testing in that port (but I'm glad they were able to roll out a quick fix!)

Source: I programmed the new gun.

>>10501873
Maaaaaybeeeee~

Thoughts on FreeHL?

>>10501987
C-CIRETAKO?!?!
If this really is what I think it is then you really gotta test it on Remar's own maps: https://remar.se/daniel/doom.php

>>10502000
Neat project. I don't 100% see it's utility, but I do wanna fuck around with it a little.

>>10502000
Might be cool when it's done since it *should* be easier to mod than regular Half Life. I hope it doesn't have the same issue FTE in general does where nobody bothers with it because documentation is shit.

>>10501331
There are several minecraft mods (ars magica and hexcasting) where you combine components like say "projectile" "deal damage" and "fire" to cast a fireball spell that (surprise) does damage and lights things on fire
I'm sure Zscript if not decorate could make a mod where you have fully modular attacks, whether it's dressed up as magic or a laser gun with a bunch of functions

>>10502000
I still don't know what it is. It's a re-implementation of HL1's game library code or something? Xash is a bit clearer in that it's a Goldsrc re-implementation.

Give me it straight, will Eviternity II ever be able to run on zandronum 3.1 or 3.2 beta?

>>10502052
No, just one(and-a-half) gun that's horribly unfinished and unpolished.
My more recent mod actually rips off another gun from Iji, I can't stop myself.

>>10502106
It's MBF21, so no.

>>10502106
>you will download gzdoom
>you will play with filtered textures
>you will not use angelic aviary
>you will not use vr sounds
>you will play solo
>and you will be happy

>>10502146

>>10502149
>Use GZDoom
>Use Vanilla Essence
Now call me based

>>10502149
"use the wad author's intended source port" fellas getting awfully quiet since two GZDoom wads came out

>>10502149
>you will download gzdoom
k, but I also have many other source ports though if I feel like it
>you will play with filtered textures
Hell no
>you will not use angelic aviary
You're giving me more reasons to use it
>you will not use vr sounds
good idea will use VR sounds
>you will play solo
with samsara, brutal doom, final doomer, or combined arms OORR BYOC
>and you will be happy
I'm already happy I passed my Finals

also who is that man? He reminds me of son of the mask ultil loki took his face off.

>>10502165
Based
no used custom pallet alongside with Vanilla Essence

>>10502189
now*

pic related
DBP 62 haunting Hallow with Samsara RTCW BJ with vanilla essance and EGA Pallet

>>10502106
Wait isn't the wad run on DSDA source port

>>10502197
Yes so?

>>10502202
just wondering since I keep hearing people it only runs on gzdoom that's why

>>10502203
saying*

>>10502191
My eyes are going to puke their pants because the HUD is still high-color and high-res.

>>10502219
>My eyes are going to puke their pants
Ugh, please do not elaborate on that.

>>10501643
>>10501839
>Actually Sandy, the Cacodemon has far too much health to be felled in 5 plasma blasts, much less 3. In fact, even if the player were incredibly lucky, it'd take at least 10 shots. Glad to clear this up.

>>10501861
3 for a mastermind and 4 for a cyberdemon are actually pretty reasonable estimates if this is pre-BFG FAQ literature. People didn't always know that you could do it in 1-2 by point-blanking them with the spray.

>>10502229
15 rockets for mastermind is retarded though.

>>10502237
Yeah, the rest of it is way wrong, which makes it funnier that the BFG numbers aren't.

Haven't played Doom in a long while, what's the quick rundown on sourceports nowadays? So far, I understand this:
>gzdoom is still used for gameplay mods, this will likely never change
>chocolate/crispy is still the go-to for purist experience, also a well-established niche
>prboom has been absorbed by dsda, no reason to use it anymore
I've been hearing some words about Woof and Nugget Doom, but I don't quite get what makes them stand out from the rest and especially apart from each other.

>>10502248
Woof and Nugget have basically replaced Crispy as a purist-plus experience, with the added bonus of being able to play Boom and MBF(21) stuff. DSDA is targeted strictly at speedrunners.

>>10502251
Woof over DSDA for non-speedrunners?

>>10502258
Nugget has some higher resolution render modes, but if you prefer how Crispy Doom rendered things, Woof is fine.

>>10502248
Crispy and GZDoom is the way imo. But the Unity port got fixed so that's fine too if you want to sink hours on your steam account. One small problem is that the game's framerate must be adjusted to your monitor refreshrate and vsync must be turned on or off depends if the framerate issue come up, so if you have idk a 60hz monitor then the game must be set to 60 fps or else it will be choppy. No way to play the original 35 fps if you have a modern monitor. But still, pretty good port now that it's fixed.

>>10502268
>No way to play the original 35 fps
why would anyone want this

>>10502271
I do it every time I run Vanilla Essence. Again, call me based.

>>10502258
One has little nifties like scrolling hud numbers, linear sky scrolling, toggleable brightmaps, adjustable sector brightness, etc. while the other has features useful for speedrunners like tas and rewinding. DSDA also rumored to support tic accurate Heretic and Hexen, plus early adoption of UDMF and ZDoom (ACS, Decorate) formats. That's about all the differences.

>>10502275
>UDMF and ZDoom (ACS, Decorate) formats
Can you record demos with these? A quick google didn't give me the answer except for opening my eyes to the fact that GZDoom apparently supports demo recording and playback. I really thought it couldn't do so, but turns out it just doesn't do title screen demos because it's incompatible with vanilla format.

>>10502281
(G)ZDoom can record demos, but IIRC they'll only play back with the exact version they were recorded with.

>>10502219
I played it through with those graphics.

as well as auger zenith

>>10502271
You have no Idea how many Doomkeepers are out there who prefer the 35 fps cap (which was the original framerate doom 1 ran on those old machines).

Do you remember the entrance to the secret area with all the teleporters that take you to the 5 different spots in the level in Doom2 map19. There's a torch there that you can get over in gzdoom and now I was able to do it in nugget. What option allows for this to happen in nugget? Is it things can move over/under things? Also what does the improved hit detection option do in nugget exactly?

I've played Sigil ll up to m6 and it's okay so far. 30s doors are gay tho.

I think this thing turned out pretty good. Just need to do some blending and fine-tuning with these smear frames.

>>10502251
>DSDA is targeted strictly at speedrunners.
They wish. It's for everyone, whether they like it or not. Unfortunately, endoom support has been borked since 0.25 and hasn't ever been completely fixed.

which sounds more fun
>Doomin' Ball Z
>Nuke Dukesis Dukegelion

We're going to kill you!

>>10502281
These formats are long since fixed in their specs (UDMF was last updated back in 2009) and only received port specific additions here and there, so I imagine DSDA will get its own exclusive demos playable across its versions once full functionality of the formats is finalized.

>>10502345
>Thanks, bye!

>>10502191
>>10502286
the hell

>>10501603
Toxic post from a pro-ukraine supporter, nothing strange.

>timed a 20
>no portal
huh?

>>10502346
>This port-specific demo format has some helpful extensions for casual play and some necessary extensions for advanced map formats. When using casual extensions, this format has no long-term guarantee of cross-version compatibility.
Apparently some foundation is already there, so it may come true.
https://github.com/kraflab/dsda-doom/blob/master/docs/dsda_demo_format.md

>>10502308
>Also what does the improved hit detection option do in nugget exactly?
Blockmap bug fix and easier demon fisting (probably)

>>10502308
>Is it things can move over/under things?
Also yes

>green trees shedding their leaves in evi2
not even doom music can make this make sense

I like those dudes

>>10501331
There's probably somebody bored enough out there to try and do a Hard Reset gameplay mod.

I've been playing Strife and I think the game's problem is that other than the Assault Rifle everything else kinda sucks for the main gameplay loop. You have 4 different guns capable of damaging you (or always damages you in the Sigil's case). Rocket isn't fast enough or accurate enough. Also useless for ceiling spiders and the flying robots I wish it was more accurate against. Doesn't even feel like it does enough damage either. Flamethrower is too close range for all the hitscan enemies in the game. Grenade launcher is again too close range - it's decent at dealing with mechs around the corner but at range you want to hope it's in a good position to be shot with a rocket or you otherwise rifle it down.

I haven't gotten the last gun yet but I think it's a plasma rifle type.

>>10502248
I have the same question, but for the Raven IWADs

what's the recommended sourceport to play them, besides choco and gzdoom?
as before, we only have crispy and russian/international as alternatives?
is dsda support for them mature enough?

>>10501075
If I tried to call myself a "real man", and I spent all day obsessing over how other people play video games, I would shoot myself in embarrassment.

>>10502149
I can play games however I want. If that causes you physical pain then I don't know what to tell you. I'm not responsible for your emotional problems. Get help, or don't, not my issue.

>>10502507
Why don't you just play whichever one makes you happy instead of needing consensus and approval? Are you not capable of deciding? Can you not even tell the difference? Then why stress out over it? Just download one and play.

I hate how long it took me to realize this even though their eyes glow in the dark even dead.
i thought their face looked super cartoonish when dead.
i grew up mainly with the N64 version so maybe they didn't glow in this one idk

>>10501180
If the MBF21 ports add support for arbitrary texture widths because of Romero's negligence, that'd be both really practical, and really funny.

>>10502607
It's not the first time that exceptions have been made specifically for Romero's maps.

>>10501643
>just having to be right about small technicalities that barely matter
Romero is doing this because this is the only way for him to matter.
>>10501720
>There's something sad about this
Yeah. After failing to gain new achievements over certain point of time, veteran developers like John just give up and overly fixate on old days.

I really want to map in Boom format because I know there are people who use ports that don't support UDMF, but fuck it, muh limitations breed creativity, ok sure, that's true in many cases, but for fuck's sake I shouldn't spend 30 minutes setting up very simple stuff that can be done in 10 seconds by switching format. And I'm mainly talking ease of use here, no 3d floors, no lights, no advanced shit

>>10502637
>Yeah. After failing to gain new achievements over certain point of time, veteran developers like John just give up and overly fixate on old days.

You mean Sandy? Who even then still enjoyed success afterwards with Age of Empires. Other than that, dude is getting old so I can't blame him for misremembering peculiars.

>>10502106
Zandronum ceased development absolutely ages ago, so no.

>>10502648
What takes 30 minutes to do in Boom that can be done faster in another format?

>>10502648
What are you trying to do that Boom's generalized actions aren't enough "ease of use" for?
I'm genuinely curious, because Boom is downright liberating compared to Vanilla.

>>10502149
I don't jerk off to little girls being violently murdered, so I don't particularly see a tangible downside if GzDoom can't run Angelic Aviary.

>>10502652
It's kinda funny really, Sandy has more proper games from post-id than Romero does, since Romero ended up working on mostly shovelware after Ion Storm went tits up.

>>10502674
old id was a happy incident. a good combination of quirks

>>10502678
It's a shame it started to come apart at the seams during Doom 2 and then much later from Tim Willits sabotaging shit.

>>10502686
Tim is the embodiment of darkness

30 mins of /vr/ when?

>>10502229
I wonder if iD themselves even had a solid grasp on the BFG's might, considering the extremely high damage output you can actually get out of 40 cells. The gun is almost way too powerful for the first game, it doesn't get a really good use case until Doom 2 and Final Doom.

>>10500619
>>10500634
I finished it last night and every single level has problems. E6M7 is the biggest offender (Cacodemons and Lost Souls flying up to infinite height every 10 seconds to get over walls along with huge open areas for Caco's to get hit-punched back into infinity). Not to mention it makes the third map in a row that a Cyberdemon can cheese you because of teleport delay near them. It is clear that Romero doesn't really pay attention to map philosophy from others as these types of problems have long since been figured out in design.

The final battle with the Cybers and the Mastermind would be fine but they have lowering floors for some reason? I think the intention was that it prevents them all from shooting you at the same time, but all it really does is prevent you from having them properly infight (or if you do, it takes ages for one of them to die since most of their attacks now miss each other).

What a clusterfuck. I said earlier this was a 6 to 7 out of 10 WAD but I'm lowering it to a 4 after the last two levels.

Meanwhile I'm only 4 levels into Eviternity II on UV and its fucking awesome. Romero's designs and philosophy are outdated. Sure it was neat to play a WAD by an original creator on the 30th anniversary, but that is all Sigil II is good for.

>>10502686
Wasn't Tim talking about some bullshit that 40k 'was the inspiration for Doom' when Boltgun came out? That nigger wasn't even at id back then

>>10500706
This, but then nearly 10 minutes of confusion by me afterwards as I thought the blue key led to a second exit - it doesn't. I felt stupid afterwards.

I love the zoomer versions of enemies in Eviternity 2. They're very sparsely used by now (level 5? 6?) but they seem just the right amount of challenging compared to the... not very challenging base versions of spooders and cacos

>>10502725
>Wasn't Tim talking about some bullshit that 40k 'was the inspiration for Doom' when Boltgun came out?
That or Space Marine 2, an even less thread relevant game that’s being made by Timmy’s company Saber. It’s common knowledge how much Aliens influenced the original Doom when since it was initially planned to use the IP. It’s just Tim doing his thing once again.

>>10502725
>Boltgun
Man that shit really came and went huh. Same with that Brutal Doom knockoff with the resurrection mechanic.

>>10502725
>>10502767
It was definitely to sell Boltgun and yeah, tried to use his pretend credentials as an "original Doom dev" to say 40k inspired Doom, which is painfully false in so many ways between Doom starting as an Aliens game that was inspired by id's D&D sessions and that 40k had next to no market penetration in America during that time.

>>10502782
>It was definitely to sell Boltgun
It was definitely to sell the new Space Marine game HIS team is working on
https://www.thegamer.com/warhammer-space-marine-2-developers-talk-upcoming-title/
>>I bet many people do not know that the original Doomguy was actually a space marine inspired by an even older space marine which is the Warhammer 40,000 space marine.
We’re talking about Willits here: Speaking about a 40k game he himself isn’t involved with may be giving him too much credit, anon.

>>10502709
300 hours of /vr/, udmf, 20k linedefs minimum

Everyone's always like "MUH SPACE MARINES!!"
How come no one is ever like, "What about Space Navy?"