/vr/ - Retro Games

Here are my nominations for 1993. A lot of good games

Woops, here the 1993s

have ever played anything that isnt a nintendo game? serious question.

>>10493834
I had a SNES growing up. Didnt find anything on Genesis that felt that attractive that I wanted to go play it later in life.

>>10493828
Warcraft 3

>>10493830
DOOM

>>10493820
Wolfenstein 3D > ALTTP

List discarded. OP Sucks cocks in hell.

>>10493820
>Mario, Mario, Mario, Mario, Mario
>Deus Ex, Deus Ex
>FromSoft, FromSoft, FromSoft
Jesus Christ this list is horrible. It just looks like whatever sold the most that year.

>>10493820
>1993
Gaia Gensouki
>2003
Saya no Uta

>>10493834
This. Whole chart is just Nintendo and Sony. Good lord. Go outside man.

>>10493841
Wolfenstein was 3rd last year

>>10493842
Popularity polls always favor the games that were played the most over those that were really the best.

>>10493847
How would going outside help /v/ have better taste in video games?
https://2022.vidyagaemawards.com/winners

>>10493830
>Star Fox
X-Wing should replace that.

>Kirby's Adventure
Gabriel Knight should replace that.

>Disney's Aladdin
Mortal Kombat 2 should replace that.

>>10493856
You don't do polls with randoms if you want good results. Get a small commitee of people with certified good taste instead. Democracy never works.

>>10493860
Go recommend them then.
https://2023.vidyagaemawards.com/awards

I'll give you my top 3 favorites for each year
>93
Princess Maker 2
Ridge Racer
Mystic Warriors
>03
Fatal Frame 2
Zone of the Enders: The 2nd Runner
Initial D Special Stage

It's a list of favorites not most influential games ever, I happen to like these games that's all

>>10493864
They break it through by website, but those are the 4chan verified link votes only. This is what people on this website like.

>>10493820
>what is your favorite game from 1993 and 2003?
Doom
Doom 2
Dark Forces
Duke Nukem 3D
Quake 2
Half-Life
Medal of Honor
Perfect Dark
Serious Sam
TimeSplitters 2
Postal 2

>>10493864
Democracy is dogshit because people are retarded. The founding fathers knew this, and the smartest philosophers of Ancient Greece knew this. Alls you get with democracy is tyranny of the majority regardless of whether it's right or wrong.

>'93
Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers
Myst
Doom
SimCity 2000
Frontier: Elite II
Warlords II
Dark Sun: Shattered Lands
too many to list
>'03
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge
P.N.03

Mortal ][ Kombat
Manhunt

>>10493913
Yaaawn

>>10493913
Not between 1993 and 2003. The year 2003 and 1993

game of the year: rocket knight adventures.

>>10493830
>No RKA
Trash list.

>>10493962
ok, but we're still going to do it

>>10493874
>Reddit is the only one without Mario or Zelda
Holy shit, are they based?

>>10494037
Absofuckinglutely.

>>10493820
4 fucking Mario titles
1 Zelda title
2 Metroid titles
2 Smash Bros. titles

And you can bet there'll be even more.

Nintendo fanboys ruin these fucking lists every single time, Nintendo makes stellar stuff that's fun to play, but God damn it, this is too much and genuinely ruins it.

There's more to vídeo games than the same 3 or 4 Nintendo IPs every fucking time, play more stuff, it's worth, and give these lists more variety, for God's sake.

>>10494265
Hey, blame /v/. That's their list

Sonic 3
Rayman 3
Watch Dogs

This chart is probably the grossest thing I've seen since a mirror

>>10493820
Popularity polls are retarded

1) Most people are idiots. That's a fact. Average IQ is at best 100. You shoudn't care what most people think is the best of anything
2) Only idiots are bored enough or insecure enough to partake in polls like that

That's literally TWO layers of retardation effacing any potential value such polls could entail. You should hope your favorite game isn't "winning" them

/thread

oh i remember this. i saw their 1999 list and burst out laughing. didnt even put heroes iii, jagged 2 or freespace 2 in the top 20. smash brothers ahead of third strike and garou. play some more fucking games people.

Everyone involved should be ashamed.

>it wasnt bait anon really only plays tenders and socially acceptable pc games

>>10494304
>>10494338
So is /vr/ just uber hipsters who sound like they have feforas or it's just some guys here?

>>10493820
I don't think a worse chart could exist if you tried.

>>10494037
It's a 3 way tie between RKA, Mega Man X and Rondo of Blood for me. With Shinobi III and Gunstar Heroes not far behind.

>>10493820
This is what they're talking about when people say /v/ doesn't play games. What an embarrassing selection.

>>10494363
Unlike /v/ people actually play games here so anyway popularity poll for best game of 1999 which has Smash Bros as the winner is automatically laughable to anyone actually into retro gaming.

>>10494363
There are people here that play more than just Nintendo games. Guess why OPs list starts at 1985.

>>10494406
I'm OP. And it's not my list. It's the list of /v/ GOTY for the /vga/ for the last 13 years.
https://vidyagaemawards.com/previous-years

>>10494393
It's funny, thinking back on games i played then most turned out to be 97, 98 or 2000.
1999 still has Age of Empires 2, GTA2 or THPS as games absolutely everyone played or knew, Smash is fucking absurd.

>>10494393
1999 was a close call between Smash, System Shock and RCT

>>10494410
It may not be *your* list, but it is the one in the OP, thus the opening post posesses it. Don't take offense to it.

>>10493820
This is the height of embarrassment. I feel like a worse person for even having looked at it.

>>10494417
Holy fucking cringe dude.

Not even the top 12 have good games.

/v/ is a hellhole

>>10494417
That's a sad top 12 even. The sheltered kids of 4chan really don't play a lot of games.

>>10494417
I'm not one to use the word cringe. I don't even like the word cringe. But this. This right here. I had a physical reaction to. How is this even possible.

>>10494428
Brah, if you look at that Top 12 and dont see good games, I think you might be way too hipster. Can you name me 10 good games from 1999 then?

>>10494415
I think a lot of people retroactively attribute the success Smash has had post-Melee to Smash 64.

>>10494434
Every kid I knew played Smash. Even Sony fanboys loved Smash.

This thread in one image

>>10494428
Now you're just being stupid.

>>10494438
Hey, it's your award. This represent your board.

>>10494431
If you can't think of another 12 that subplant these, that's your own problem.

>>10494449
>he cant answer
lel good try contrarian

>>10494417
The fact this didn't even place for 1999 just goes to show how young the voters were.

>>10494439
So one of the games on that list is your favorite. Most of those games are unremarkable compared to the deluge of quality in 1999.

>>10494446
No it's not.

>>10494453
Sonic sucks.

>>10494457
Sucks less than trash 64.

>>10494431
>>10494439
You're fucking retards

>>10494453
I knew someone would point out a glaring exclusion without even having to mention it.

>>10494454
Then name 12 games better than those 12. If you call every single game from that list, not even a 6/10, then you are just plain stupid.

>>10494454
>So one of the games on that list is your favorite
No actually but System Shock 2 is very close.

>>10494457
Infinitely better than all this Nintendie slop and lonely PC user slop.

>>10494460
Name 10 games anon. Stop trying to be contrarian, and name 10 games that you know are better than those.

>>10494453
I unironically do not rate this even among my top 20 of games from that year.

>>10494462
Like I said, if you agree with that top 12, there's nothing to prove to someone like you. You do you.

>>10494464
Have you even played Sonic Adventure? I did. Compared to 1999 games from that list, it's of a way less quality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRgbir8TGSA

>>10494469
Cool. Then your claim that you can easily think of 10 games was just bullshit. Thanks.

>>10494471
I was there at launch. Can you say the same?

>>10494472
Not any more bullshit than your own.

>>10494468
It's a popularity contest, not a quality contest. That not even the tendies on /v/, who would have all experienced it years later on the gc could rationalize it would be popular enough to vote for to at least be as popular as mp only trash like quake 3 and ut.

People here saying "this doesn't represent our board" would have a rude awakening if a /vr/ only poll was held and they found out the results would be mostly the same. Same as how back when the very first /v/GAs were held people were saying "look at how Bastion and Portal 2 won all those the awards over in the r/gaming awards, pffft, we're going to show them what our superior taste looks like" and then the results come in and Bastion and Portal 2 sweep the awards anyway. Then you're going to cry about how your awards were "infiltrated" by outsiders and create several countermeasures to make sure only people from here can vote and the results are still going to be the same because you just can't accept the reality that the people you share a board with aren't as "elite" as you think. I've seen all this happen on /v/ over 10 years ago and /vr/ would be no different.

>>10494473
Yep.
And you are the one saying that a list of varied games from multiple platform containing the peak quality of 1999 is full of bad games. But it's okay, just use a triptag so I can ignore your trolls please.

>>10494478
>mp only trash like quake 3 and ut.
Those two games capture the zeitgeist of gaming in '99 like no others on the list. Kill yourself shit taste zoomer.

>>10494469
Can't believe a Sonic Adventure fan of all things would act this elitist lmao.

>>10494480
>Donkey Kong 64 is the peak of 1999

>>10494482
Nobody plays them today because nobody likes them.

>>10494487
I still play UT almost daily. Kill yourself.

>>10494486
Yes. DK64 had a massive world, with a lot of stuff to do and really impressive graphics for a 64.
Why are you so bent on hating. Give me positive stuff about 1999.

>>10494484
Can't believe a ... *reviews notes*

... Rollercoaster Donkey Kong Empires Planescape fan would be this fan. I can actually.

>>10494490
>I still play UT
You don't. Powerstone, Soul Calibur, ThotD2 are all intrinsically more fun games. Everyone knows this.

>>10494491
>big and graphics
Yeah, you and /v/ would agree then
>>>/v/

>>10494446
>the most interesting thing of 2001

>>10494497
>he cant name a single good game in 1999
lel

>>10494496
Based as fuck and correct.

>>10494502
>he can't either
lmao
1999 was a shit year then

>>10494496
Lol I should have known it was just some Dreamcast autist who's mad that nobody cares about his flopped console.

>>10494508
Lol I should have known it was just some redditor mushroomposter who's feeling this superior about bingbinging

>>10494472
>alpha centauri
>heroes iii
>system shock 2
>freespace 2
>jagged alliance 2
>the longest journey
>king of dragon pass
>gaben knight 3
>planescape
>worms armageddon
>unreal tournament
>quake iii
>age of empires 2
>swat 3
>soul reaver
>rollercoaster tycoon
>homeworld
>pharaoh
>everquest
>asherons call
>discworld noir
>tiberian sun
1999 is considered the best year for computer games. pretty well ever.

>>10494472
stay btfo

>>10494496
the house of the dead 2?
that's 1998

>>10494513
putting dk 64 ahead of any of these games is an objectively shit and uninformed take.

>>10494507
I can list games, DK 64, Pokemon Snap, Silent Hill, Pokemon Gold Silver, AoE 2, Smash Bros, Nemesis is not as bad as the others Resident Evil, Jet Force Gemini is amazing, Ape Escape, Mario Gold, Pokemon Pinball, Mario Party, Soul Calibur, RTC is a game I played at least 100 hours as a kid.

But the problem is that YOU wont name any. Because you just want your opinion to be "I hate this" and naming something might mean somebody will criticize it, which you cant handle.

You have no spine, and it shows.

>>10494519
Original release dates are not factored in, otherwise smb3 would be the 1988 winner not 1990.

>>10494510
Someone who heralds shit like Power Stone as the height of quality games released in 1999 and calls some of the best PC games ever made "slop" has no business talking shit about Smash Bros. I can't believe I was actually aggreeing with you earlier in the thread when everyone was shitting on Smash Bros being #1 but it turns out your standards are actually lower than nintendies lmao. Just goes to show you never know the people you're agreeing with on an anonymous imageboard.

>>10494521
Because you weren't looking for an actual answer. Deflecting to "thing isn't bad, show YOUR things" doesn't address what was first being discussed to begin with.

>>10494513
It was indeed a great year for PC gaming. But would you say that all the games on that top voted list by /v/ from 1999 are worse games than those?

>>10494526
>has no business talking shit about Smash Bros
Can't believe this sentence was written
Hey man, if you like it you like it, don't let me stop you.

>>10494479
years ago it might have been better. the internet in general has been swarmed with inscrutable drones that harp on about the same 5 games over and over again. i dont doubt that /vr/ now would produce a predominantly nintendo and socially acceptable computer games list. no arcade games, that's taboo.

Why the fuck should I care what some (actual) troons like?

>>10494529
You still cant. I dont give a fuck what your liked games you are afraid of showing. I just want you to put something on the table when you say "Those 12 games are fucking shit I know a ton of games better than those".

You still cant name a single game. You wait till other people post a game. It's okay anon, keep being scared of speaking up about what you like. But you need to come out of the closet soon.

OOT

>>10494536
If you're gonna shit on Smash Bros you should be naming games that are better than Smash Bros, not fucking worse.

>>10494526
What exactly do you think you were agreeing to?

>>10494539
>>10494541
You're not someone worth answering to. Never going to be. I'm sorry.

>>10494549
He's so insecure. It's so funny how he want to hater on every other opinions but cant have one of his own.
You are literally this sketch. How. How are you a parody?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt4BTQ1veQ4

>CTRL + F "Shining Force"
>0 replies
Dishonor on you, dishonor on your family, dishonor on your catgirl

>>10494513
Roller Coaster Tycoon is on there, you fucking retard.

>>10494569
That's an elf, moron.

>>10494530
do i think donkey kong 64 is worse than heroes of might and magic iii and jagged alliance 2? thats a whole can of societal worms id rather not get into. the answer is categorically yes, the /v/ list is a disgrace.

>>10494491
I don't see how Donkey Kong 64 is above Dance Dance Revolution.

>>10494575
That was not the question. The question is, do you think that all the games on that top 12 is not worth to be on a top 12 list? Is your opinion that none of those games are worth a spot on a top 12 game list of 1999

>>10494575
agreed. anyone who has even a passing interest in older games can see through the bullshit.

>>10494580
That's not how this work. A game being more voted does not mean it's better. DDR is also a 1998 arcade game. DK64 also has more content than DDR.

>>10494557
I have an opinion. You've just repeatedly demonstrated how you aren't worth it.

>>10494575
>>10494583
This. I have no idea who the couple of ninnies are that keep defending these lists and charts, as if they're some sort of "inevitable truths."

Who even knows man.

>>10494585
Dude, just stop responding. I feel bad just seeing your cope. Please. Have some respect and act like you are not that anon.

>>10494584
>the content argument AGAIN
Please just go back to your modern gaming communities and leave us alone. We'll both be happier.

>>10494581
its been answered. the list is a categorical disgrace.

>>10494584
DDR came out in Japan in 98, NA in 99. Are you going to use JP or NA release dates? Depending on what you want to use will skew the release dates of everything.

>>10494592
Nah. Funny how you think I'm a coward with no spine, now you're encouraging me to hide and stop talking. I won't. Because you won't either. None of us are proving anything, but I sure as shit won't do anything you tell me to, that's for sure.

>>10494594
Are you saying that content is bad? Is this a retro thing? Games should be sold 120$ and be short?

>>10494595
He won't accept it because the lists includes games he likes LMAO
This board is sad. Just not as sad as /v/

>>10494595
No it has not. Can you say, with a straight face, that none of those games merit a spot on a person top 12 list?
That none of those 12 games are worth even playing through?

>>10494602
Yes.

did not expect people to get this butthurt because said heroes iii was objectively better than dk 64. cry harder kiddies.

>>10494606
Not that anon, but unironically yes. None of these interest me. I'm sorry you're having to learn about the world of different tastes this way.

>>10494601
I can list games I like. You cant. There is no point to have a discussion with a blank wall. Come back if you have a spine and can state your opinions about stuff. Nobody will know. It's not like in highschool where people laughed at your taste. Nobody knows who you are. There is literally no stake. You could say you loved Beetle Adventure Racing so much that you played it a thousand hours, nobody would give a fuck.

>>10494614
Wait. Interest you? You have not played them?

>>10494613
No one even plays either of those games, be quiet.

>>10494584
>DK64 also has more content than DDR.
And? DDR was so good it was the last adrenaline shot the arcades had. Before that was Street Fighter II.

>>10494618
You can determine if something interests you pretty quickly, you don't need to play all 100 hours of a game to determine what your own reaction is.

>>10494620
It's not a competition. But DDR is something the average person will play once in a while in an arcade. DK64 is a game people sat through and played 20-30 hours of. So of course people will like DK64 more than DDR.
DDR is just 4 arrows flashing on a song. It's just a retro Just Dance, and people love Just Dance, but I dont think they would put it on a top 10 games of the year.

>>10494625
content and length and graphics and length and graphics and content, why are you here

>>10494623
So, you did go through all those games, and played 1-2 hours of it to try them at least right? You dont say "No, those 12 games are worse than the games I actually played" for real, right?

>>10494629
there are no nintendo 64 games worth playing, that's why they are here.

>>10494629
What the fuck do you /vr/ people use to measure the quality of a game if it's not graphics, lenght, content? You use a Nostalgia meter?

>>10494632
How can you even say that? That's just a stupid statement, and I'm mostly a PC gamer.

>>10493820
>1993
Rondo Of Blood (don't really like it but 93 was a shit year so..)
>2003
Silent Hill 3

>1993
has to be Doom
>2003
Silent Hill 3 or maybe KotOR

>>10494635
Uh. Being fun? Gameplay? How it feels? You know? The fucking GAME?
Jesus fucking Christ dude.

/v/ and /vr/ taste is always skewed toward action games

Slightly unrelated to the current discussion, I nominated DDR Extreme last year for best of 2002 and imo it was the best version - The songlist was good, the songs themselves were danceable (unlike A3 where it's getting flooded with more and more glitch/wubstep bullshit) and it was right before Supernova, which had a massive difficulty spike and the hard songs absolutely require holding onto the bar. They truly jumped shark from "Dancing" to "Mashing the pads with your feet like you're playing the world's shittiest piano." Extreme was the last one where they wanted you to have fun

Also Day of the Tentacle for 1993 please and thank you

>>10494635
>you /vr/ people
Outted himself as a tourist. Go back.
>>>/v/

>>10494649
Yes, those are all other qualities. So if a game is literally 5 min long, but is super fun and control well, you would put it in a list of best games of the year. Cool.

>smash ahead of third strike
but how did you know the list was bad anon? i just cant tell.

>>10494641
>rondo
JP-only, you stupid cunt.

>>10494651
And that's a good thing.

>>10494658
You wouldn't? Sheesh. This guy's never heard of replayability either.
IF LONG AND SHINY, THEN = GOOD
No wonder your kind are so easily pandered to in the modern era. Quality is actually irrelevant to your parameters.

>>10494652
DDR Extreme is usually considered the best, yes. Sales started to fall off after that and they shifted to the bigger Japanese series like Bemani and Pop n' Music.

>>10493820
2003 is kotor

>>10494659
kek, this. delusional

>>10494659
Smash affected more people and the industry more than Third strike, so it's normal that people didnt vote for the third game of a fighthing series who's earlier game had like 5 DLCs

>>10494625
>But DDR is something the average person will play once in a while in an arcade
That goes contrary to how it literally revitalized arcades again. If the game wasn't a draw it wouldn't help with revitalizing western arcades.
>It's just a retro Just Dance
You mean Just Dance is a clone of DDR. Rhythm games really came to be in 5th gen. You don't even comprehend how revolutionary they were because you only stuck to a N64 and didn't leave the house.
>DK64 is a game people sat through and played 20-30 hours of
Because there's so much fucking filler. I've easily put in more time into the base DDR than DK64 when I beat it. Even though it "lacks content" even though it has a selection of many songs, three difficulties that changes the steps on each song, and it being an arcade game which is often simple to grasp but more difficult to master.

>>10494668
Kids just need a shiny toy that plays itself. The more arrows and red compass dots the better.

>>10494668
I dont like long games. But content and lenght is way different. DDR is the same thing, every single song. DK64 had varied gameplay. Thus people liked it more as a game than DDR and thus voted for it, while DDR didnt even get nominated.

>>10494674
You can't argue with this guy, anon. Although I admire the attempt. He only believes that if it's long and has graphics and was played by more people, then that's the only thing that makes something good or better. Sad.

how many times is this kid gonna out himself as a retard? are you going for the world record?

>>10494658
Yes, I can beat Contra within 20 or so minutes and say its significantly better than Donkey Kong 64.

No one has mentioned Transport Tycoon Deluxe?

>>10494674
DDR is a good arcade toy, yes. But unless you spent the 2-3k to have a machine at home, or spent literal hundreds in Arcades, you would not play more than 2 hours of it in your life. So of course it has less of an impact than DK64 or literally most games. Even other arcades like House of the Dead are more remembered than DDR. Everybody know what DDR is, and if you were a cool kid, you had a mat at home to play on consoles. But it's a toy more than a game. It's a gimmick to make you lose weight.
I love DDR, but I would not put it, even less the first one, in the best games of that year.

>>10494658
God damn man. Have you never played a game older than 2005? Shmups and fighters and racers are irrelevant genres now too I guess.

>>10494684
You do understand that it's not a question of lenght right? Contra has content. It has different guns, enemies. For it's time it was a really full game experience.

>>10493830
Doom.

>>10494702
Not what you said.

>>10494701
Shmups are dead because the whole genre was about high difficulty and people got tired of it after they discovered that Nintendo and other companies were making games hard just for the purpose to make you buy then instead of renting them. That's why Star Fox 64 is better and more known tgame from his genre.

Fighting games are smashan games and I dont like them in general, because they are not fun unless you want to spend 20-30 hours to learn the game like it's a course at school.

Racers are fun if they are party racers like Mario Kart or Snowboard Kids, or Twisted Metal or even FZero/Wipeout. But the serious stuff was always boring to me, only car nerds love those.

>>10494707
Yes it is. A 5 min game with good gameplay but no content would not be good.
People LOVE Roguelite games and they are literally just less than an hour game sessions where if you die, you go back. But they are filled with variables and replayability. If I had to play the same levels of the same 45 min game, I would do a single playthrough. But a 45 min game, that has new content every time I play is different and way better. Variability. People dont want to spend 100-140$ for a game that has no replayability, and replayability need content.

>>10494712
>fighters are not for me
>racers are not for me
ok?

>>10493842
>>10494265
Wow its like some of the most acclaimed games are also the most popular and well liked as well.

Seethe.

>>10494717
Replayability and content is irrelevant to length.

>>10494719
That's not what I said though. If you think Racers are just Ridge Racers and Grand Taurismo or that Fighters cant be party Fighters like Smash, then they dont interest me, or the greater public.

>>10494720
Stay a tasteless ape that thinks embracing whatever's the popular consensus gives you a license to be haughty.

>>10494697
Comparing DDR to DK64 is a great example of what people play games for. DK64 is a rather leisurely platformer whereas DDR expects specific performance and encourages mastery. Different people are going to have different experiences with each, and the kid that spent all summer building up to 100% in DK64 is just as a valid as the kid who heard their first wacky japanese songs coming out of a DDR machine and spent all 20 of their dollars to beat it on medium and look up the soundtrack later online

With the benefit of hindsight, and a car, I can say DDR does more to respect my time, and I've definitely played it more in the past 20 years. But is that the right answer? Should I be thinking about it as me now, or as the wide-eyed little shit who played it in 1999?

It's all just, like, your opinion, man

>>10494723
>some things don't interest some people
Doesn't make them irrelevant, or change the fact that their gameplay loops are measured in minutes. I don't even know what you're arguing at this point.

>>10494729
>Should I be thinking about it as me now, or as the wide-eyed little shit who played it in 1999?
As you now. Past you isn't voting.

>>10494721
Not really. In most normal games, content and replayability are corrolated with lenght. Hard to put 200 items in a game where you click 10 buttons and then it's over.

For example, Super Mario Bros has bad replayability in my book. You play it, once and then meh, it's over congrats.

Super Mario 3 is way more replayable and yet it's the same formula. Why? Content. Varied levels, music, costumes, animations, graphics, gameplay.

Goldeneye is worse than Perfect Dark for the same reason. Content. Quality of the content.

>>10494730
Who is talking about relevancy? It's a vote from 1500 or some nerds from /v/ who said "Yeah, those are my 12 favorite games of that year" then they did some measuring with the voting, and bam.

Right now the nominations for the /vga/ are open. You can go nominate all the best games from 1993 and 2003. But people will only vote on the 12 most nominated games.

So if a game is obscure, or played by less people, games like SHMUPS that are really short are hard, Fighting games that are played by the same 10 people every year, or Sport games like Madden, Fifa or Forza, of course they wont be nominated. Because you need to be a nerd, on 4chan, and get on a thread that has a secured code to make sure people from 4chan are voting. And /v/ people dont play fighting games. They dont play SHMUPS. They play the popular stuff, because that's what everybody plays.
That's why we have odd categories, like "Best game nobody else played" for the underdogs like Dungeon Crawlers, or Beat em ups.

>>10494697
You don't know what makes a game a game.

>>10494750
I do. I have more games and played more of them than you probably did.

>>10494748
>Who is talking about relevancy?

>>10494635
>>10494658
>>10494717

>>10494752
If you try to move DDR off as not a game then you don't comprehend what makes a game a game.

>>10494748
just to chime in, we actually have some admittedly arcane rules for how we populate the ballot for awards like "Best Game Nobody Played" or "Game I Like but /v/ Hates" so for those kind of awards it isn't necessarily a popularity contest

>>10494752
And a billionaire has collected thousands of cars. Doesn't mean he knows how to drive, what they are, or has used them even once.

Pointing to a pile of "things" and going "I have thing!" gives you no credibility or respect on that basis alone. That has to come from you.

>>10494756
When did I say that. I said that the average player will play a little bit of DDR. Also, the crowd that will play it are not nerds that stay inside for days, but people who have friends and go out.

>>10494748
>And /v/ people dont play fighting games. They dont play SHMUPS. They play the popular stuff, because that's what everybody plays.
Crazy how we're not on /v/ then

>>10494759
But I did play games. So your example does not work.

>>10494759
Okay, but what's your position, anon? Please tell me so I can make the appropriate leaps of logic to undermine it without revealing my own opinion

>>10494762
>When did I say that
>>10494697
>But it's a toy more than a game
Fuck off nigger.

>>10494763
/vr/ is a totally closed loop. You had a Start date and a death date. Anything past the cutoff cant be talked about. And games in the 1993s were more about difficulty to make money than actual fun gameplay and content. Star Fox 64 was the SHMUPS everybody played because it was actually fun and not insanely difficult

>>10494764
>"I have more games"
irrelevant
>"played more than you did"
The experience alone doesn't give credit to your opinion if you have nothing meaningful to derive from or share about them. Anyone can play thousands of games and just go "eh, ye most of them were good," and add value to no one's lives including their own.

>>10494754
How is saying "Games with content are better received than games with lower content" about relevancy?

>>10494757
Of course, otherwise the "Best games nobody played" would just be 13-24

>>10494770
Star Fox 64 is also, gasp, short

>>10494770
What the fuck are you talking about? People didn't play more SHMUPS because they were mostly japanese games on arcade or platforms that were not as popular in the west.

Terrible argument.

>>10494776
>how is dismissing games based on how long it takes to play them an argument about the relevancy of their quality
How indeed, friend.

>>10494769
It's a toy more than a game, like all arcade games. Pinball is more a toy than a game to normal people. Because normal people dont spend hours playing the same table. It's something you play once every month or year, but not something you invest time and energy into like a Farming simulator or an Adventure game.

You pass by a Pinball machine, play a game, then leave. Only a specific small crowd actually spend hours learning the game deeply, just like fighting games, racing games and Rythmes games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq8YQMjdczc

>>10494782
But it's also replayable. Multiple routes. And it's easy. Routes show which are harder than others, you have secrets in levels. Which is not something you had in most SHMUPS of the past.

>>10494791
I said fuck off nigger.

>>10494783
There was a ton of SHMUPS on American consoles. It was one of the first genre invented with Asteroid.

>>10494794
The argument was never about shmups. You said a short game couldn't be fun or great. Then you said oh it's not length it's content. Well no shit doofus, what contentless game, whether it's 5 minutes or 500 hours, is somebody going to enjoy?

ERGO: LENGTH IS IRRELEVANT

>>10494791
>>10494765
Why are you people still here.

>>10494784
People remember games they spent more times on. To spend times on a game it need content. Short games are less remembered than long games. And games you play less will be remembered less than games you played more.

>>10494806
You are talking about completely different eras of Shmups. Star fox was was released over a decade after asteroid.

It's like arguing that ping pong in gaming was popular at the time of the SNES because pong was one of the first games. Just stop, you are just a fool of yourself and making people dislike this show. You are doing a disservice to them.

>>10494812
When did I say that a short game cant be fun or great? Lenght is relevant. Nobody would want to pay 120$ for Starfox 64 if it was 30 min. But there is replayability. It's not about lenght, it's about variability of gameplay. Content. It's also about the quality of that content. Graphics, animations. You cant judge a cake by the flour. It's a package deal.

>>10494803
Thank you for agreeing with me.

the only SHUMP game that had worldwide popularity was Space Impact on Nokia phones
>>10494770
>Shit Fag 69
a literal who game

>>10494817
I brought up Asteroid because it showed that people knew about it. But people loved R-Type, Gladius, Parodius. The NES, SNES was full with them.

>>10493820
a tendie made this pic

>>10494828
>Point out you were trying to move the game to being a toy
>Claim you never said that
>Show you where you said it
>Instantly say in the following post the thing you were denying
There is no point trying to argue with a rat faced kike like you. Just because you're an unbearable kike that is utterly stubborn doesn't mean your arguments are sound or that you're right when people don't want to tolerate your bullshit.

>>10494854
You clearly misunderstood the sentence and then try to claw at a sentence. I never claimed it's not a game. I said it's more a toy than a game, and I obviously meant for "normal people"

>>10494815
>short games are less remembered than long games
Yeah, no one remembers Contra or Super Mario Bros, or Ninja Gaiden, or Crazy Taxi, or Star Fox, or Pac-Man, or Smash, or Mega Man, or Marvel vs Capcom 2, or Hydro Thunder, or ...

You're an imbecile. It's high time I stopped replying to you.

>>10494827
It's a 1 hour game dude. You're really arguing the 30 minutes makes your point right and my point wrong? Fuck outta here.

And you keep making this content argument ad nauseum like we're not making the same point. Do you hear yourself? YES. NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY A GAME WITH NOTHING IN IT REGARDLESS OF LENGTH.

I should just take a page from the playbook of the other anon. Fuck off, nigger.

>>10494867
None of those games are short. Super Mario Bros was a really long game compared to the Atari games. Ninja Gaiden? Everybody know the game because it's really hard and nobody could play it.

All the list of games you just named are either arcade games meant to be played for high score or time. They are also all games with a lot of CONTENT. Why do you single out a single sentence as an absolute? Shorter games are less remembered, that does not mean that ALL short games are not remembered. Do you not know averages? People remember Super Mario Bros 3 more than Sonic, does not mean than Sonic is not remembered

My favorites from each year
1990 - Out Zone
1991 - Battletoads
1992 - Sonic Wings
1993 - In The Hunt
1994 - Contra Hard Corps
1995 - Elevator Action Returns
1996 - Metal Slug
1997 - Star Fox 64
1998 - Metal Slug 2
1999 - Age of Empires 2
2000 - Red Alert 2
2001 - Animal Crossing
2002 - Ratchet and Clank (Morrowind is close)
2003 - Rollercoaster Tycoon

>>10494872
There is way more than 30 min of content in Star Fox. To play through all the levels take hours. If you dont know the secrets, well over 10 hours of different content, routes, power ups.

Meanwhile take a game that is 2 hours long, but had no other content, it will be less regarded as a gem and more a one time thing.


Also, can you stop trying to shock people by saying fuck off nigger. You are on 4chan. Literally nobody is scared or threatened or shocked by you saying nigger. It looks desesperate and childish.

>>10494886
>Also, can you stop trying to shock people by saying fuck off nigger. You are on 4chan. Literally nobody is scared or threatened or shocked by you saying nigger. It looks desesperate and childish.
I'm not him, but please fuck off back to whatever shithole you crawled out from.

>>10494268
I'm not blaming you, don't worry. I'm just blaming the people responsible for the list in general, it's just so boring, the same thing every single time...

>>10494720
I get that, and I'm not at all surprised, I'm just a bit disappointed because it's boring. I mean, we all have our favorite franchises, but even then I wouldn't want a single one of my favorite series to have 2, 3 or even 4 titles in a list like this, I'd like to see a bunch of other good series I'm fond of represented, having 90% of these lists always be the same titles from the same IPs is boring.

>>10494882
CONTENT
THEY'RE SHORT AND THAT'S BAD BUT CONTENT
THEY'RE LONG AND THAT'S GOOD BUT CONTENT

Oh my god do you ever shut up.

>>10494886
>take a game that does the same thing but has less and it will be less regarded
You're a genius dude.

>>10495138
>list is bad, but I don't want my favorite games on it
Jesus Christ, what a fag.

>>10493820
Excluding all nintendo games from the voting process would solve most of the issues

>>10495493
Except that Nintendo games are good.

>>10495838
Nintendo games aren't especially good, they're more inoffensively safe and bland, which means they always will dominate public opinion lists.

>>10496073
The quality ratio of Nintendo games is pretty high. Buying a Nintendo games usually mean a safe bet.

>1993
Mega Man X
>2003
GTA:VC

>>10496079
which is my exact point. you can pick any random Zelda game, and it'll be well made, have solid controls, and be an easy pick up and play experience that you're able to have fun with for an hour or two.
But, that's every Zelda game. They're all the exact same shit, there's never anything particularly outstanding about them.

>>10494479
It was because they used to require Steam to vote

>>10496125
Most Zelda games have vastly different gameplay. Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker, BotW, Majora's mask.
There is a reason why Zelda ranking always vary, it depend on what gimmick you prefered.

>the samefaggery is still going
the rope may be a better solution for you than this.

>>10496152
There is 35 different IPs in this thread brah.

i would implore you to get the fuck off here and think about your life. pick up a book or meditation. get outside. it cant be healthy to pretend to have conversations with yourself all night. no amount of baiting strangers is going to fill the void in your life. its a futile existence.

>>10496172
How is there any bait in this thread?

>Mega Man X was released in Japan on December 17, 1993 and was released in both North America and Europe the following year.

>>10496156
And I'm one of them! It takes a village.

>>10496136
That's cope, requiring a steam account does not bias the sample of voters in any meaningful way.

>>10497857
>portal 2
>a game published by valve
>steam
>a platform owned by valve
>not in meaningful way

>>10493820
more than 90% of your list is shit

>>10493820
1993- LA
2003- Nocturne

>>10498052
What does shit mean?

>>10493820
I really don't give a shit what the braindead masses these days vote. More power to you if you do, though

>>10498102
Bad.

>>10495441
I'm not a faggot, you just have poor reading comprehension, anon.

>>10498907
Not that anon, but I agree with you, you're not a fag. I agree with your original post as well: >>10495138

>>10498909
Thank you very much, anon!

>Ape Escape
>Silent Hill
>Shenmue
>Soul Calibur
>Unreal Tournament
>System Shock 2
>Final Fantasy 8

>/v/ votes for Super Smash Bros.

>>10493828
Man 2003 sucked

>>10499305
>two PS1 games with different audiences
>a Dreamcast cult classic
>a fighting game
>a multiplayer and a single-player FPS, both with different audiences than all the games previously mentioned
>a JRPG
It's easy to see how in a ranked choice voting system a lukewarm response like Smash ends up winning.

>>10493820
>MARIOMARIOMARIOMARIO
it makes sense that /v/ is so dogshit with all the tendies

>>10494631
>huh??? how can you say this is the best game of the year if you haven't played literally every game that year?
Deeply profound argument there, retard. Yes only people who have literally completed every game that came out in 1999 should have an opinion on what the best game of 1999 is. What do the rest of us know. Can we REALLY say that FIFA 2000 isn't the best game if we haven't played it?

>>10499370
More like it's easy to see how Smash Bros ends up winning on a board full of Nintendrones

>>10499427
Fair, but with ranked choice voting a game can win even without being anyone's #1.

>>10499417
GOTY is a personal choice. So it reflect what games YOU liked the most. But, saying to somebody else that their GOTY is wrong even though you never played it is extremely stupid.
Dont you see the difference? Saying "Hey this is my favorite game of the year" and somebody saying "Fuck off, I prefered this one and yours suck!"

>>10493820
>all this fucking Mario
Absolutely fucking tasteless.
>1990
Secret of Monkey Island
>1991
Final Fantasy IV
>1992
Dragon Quest V
>1993
Castlevania Dracula X: Rondo of Blood
or DOOM
or MYST
1993 was a really good year.
>1994
System Shock
>1995
I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream
>1996
Nights into Dreams
>1997
Riven
>1998
Half-Life, Grim Fandango, Parasite Eve, or Fallout 2
>1999
Final Fantasy VIII
>2000
Dude Sex
>2001
Code Veronica Kanzenban
>2002
WarCraft 3
>2003
Silent Hill 3

>>10494720
>Wow its like some of the most acclaimed games are also the most popular and well liked as well.
That's not how it works.
Nobody is calling Harry Potter the most acclaimed novel series or Transformers the most acclaimed film series.
The people who voted on this were probably still in their dad's sack before the turn of the century, hence there being so many blank spots pre-2007, and everything after being either absurdly cheap bargain bin shit or incredibly popular during their year of release (or memes, like Metal Gear Rising).

>>10499961
>>10493820
Oh yeah, didn't see an additional 5 years worth of slots because whoever made this is probably 20.
>1985
Ghosts'n'Goblins
>1986
Mario 2. The Japanese one
>1987
Maniac Mansion
>1988
Dragon Quest 3
>1989
Tetris. This isn't even some retarded obligatory entry, it's just genuinely a well designed and incredibly addictive game with zero strings attached. If it came out today, it'd probably result in the global GPA falling by like 2 points.

>>10499992
This is what was voted by the /vga/. This year the /vga/ is voting for 2023, 2003 and 1993
https://2023.vidyagaemawards.com/

>>10499992
based

>>10499992
>This isn't even some retarded obligatory entry
It absolutely is.

>>10499992
>tetris
All these great 1989 games, and you pick fucking tetris. Which had its original release date in 1985.
FUCKING KILL YOURSELF.

>>10496094
>VC
That was 2002, you fucking retard.

>>10499992
great b8, m8, I'll rate it a 1988