/vr/ - Retro Games

all pokemon games are dogshit. at least play something like dark cloud 2 or robotrek.

>>10488960
mystery dungeon explorers of sky
colosseum as shown in your pic
XD gale of darkness
conquest if you like SRPGs

>>10488960
>Give outside company Pokemon everything and ask them to make a good game
>Genius Sonority
>Actually understand how to make a good RPG out of the Pokemon toolset
>GameFreak realizes after the 2nd game that they can't allow a small group to upstage them
>relegates them to the shittiest "stadium" iteration without any RPG/story mode
>axes them after forcing them into failure
It's not fair.
Colosseum and its sequel are marred only by a lack of a way to disable battle animations, but emulator speedup saves the day there.

>>10488962
>at least play something like dark cloud 2 or robotrek.
Done that, doesn't even fill the same niche at all

Why are the first posts almost always stupid on /vr/?

>>10488968
So which one is the best of those? XD looks dumber than Colosseum but I assume it's better?

What about the Stadium games? They have nice charm and an announcer like the anime

>>10489062
Colosseum, then XD, which is its sequel. I'm assuming you want pure pokemon battles and the other two games i mentioned (Mystery Dungeon, Conquest) play vastly differently.

I don't know much about the Stadium games, but check em out if you're interested. The graphics are pretty charming.

Probably Pokemon Stadium 2 battles without grinding

>>10489091
You have to grind? How does it even work? And isn't it blatantly imbalanced so you just pick the same ~5 best Pokémon?

>>10488960
It doesn't get more anime than...this obscure SNES hack.
You may be asking "wait what" or "the heck?" but it's true. No game captures the season 1 vibe also found in early manga that Pokemon are lore. For example, let's consider the move Fly. What happens in the game is you deal damage but no one considers that an enemy Pidgey would be flying for real...except THIS game. You play the anime.

>>10489058
Posting equivalent of a kid who has to put his hand up first in class.

>>10488960
Take the romhack/fan game pill

>>10488960
>Anything that gives off the same vibes as the anime?
It's literally just Tetris Attack/Panel de Pon but with characters and songs from the anime. There's also some obscure and probably untranslated SEGA Pico game. Otherwise, Colosseum and XD are good, you might also like Stadium and Snap. As it pertains to /vr/ I would say maybe Snap is the closest to the anime since you get to see more of the actual world, even though it's still on rails. Otherwise you're probably better off with something like Arceus which imo is what Pokemon should've been in the first place

>>10489058
>>10489569
That's why you should just make the first samefag post in your own thread

>>10488968
Is Conquest the one that’s basically Sengoku Rance but with a Pokémon skin?

>>10490069
Based

>>10488987
honestly i was never crazy about colosseum or XD. i like that i could get almost all the gen 2 pokemon but i still just wanted a gen 3 pokemon stadium at the end of the day and the only thing colosseum gave me with that was mt battle.

and battle rev was fun to play online for the most part but given the number of disconnects i experienced i couldn't tell if people were rage quitting or if the netcode was legitimately terrible.

>>10489089
>>10489062
the stadium games are practically worthless if you don't have a GB pokemon game but there is some cool stuff to them like different cups and the gym leader towers.

>>10490681
>>10489089
>>10489062
>XD

>>10490694

>>10490681
>the stadium games are practically worthless if you don't have a GB pokemon game
How so? Aren't they completely playable stand alone?

>>10490832
Well you can play them, but completing round 2 in Pokémon stadium 1 & 2 is next to impossible with only rental mon’s, because their stats and move sets are very lack luster, not to mention the AI’s teams are have perfect stats and great move sets, it’s an uphill battle.

>>10488960
Just read the pokemon manga instead if you haven't already as its completely different from the anime.

>>10490114
>Sengoku Rance

You mean Nobunaga's Ambition

>>10490832
You can play them but good luck actually completing them with rentals. Take a look at this team and think about how you can beat it with L15 rentals that are also NFE because the final evos you have access to have garbage movesets.
In fact, every rental guide out there tells you that the right play if this guy picks Alakazam (because he can only choose one L20) is to forfeit the match

>>10491140
And you can't level up the rentals?

Is it possible to beat the game standalone?

>>10491927
It is possible, people have done it, but the fact of the matter is all rentals are a set level. So for example, Poke Cup is L50-55, but the levels of your chosen 3 cannot exceed 155. Being 5 levels under one enemy at 50 is a lot less punishing than 5 levels under at 15.
Thing is, that Alakazam is so stacked that it'll often deal 80% damage on a resisted hit. The only way you could beat it with rentals is landing a lucky freeze with a Lapras, but you have to avoid the 20% critrate too.

Heads up niggus, in Stadium 1 you can pretty much beat the entire game with kadabra/nidoking/zapdos/jolteon/starmie/articuno and graveller/wepinbell here and there, Stadium 2 on the other hand all the rentals fucking suck and you'll need to have very specific teams on every round of round 2

On topic, for me its Pinball

>>10488960
Snap is the only console Pokemon game that isn't shit or just an expansion.
The sequel is also great.

>>10490681
>>10490849
>>10491948
I don't get what you mean desu. Just checked every game mode, Stadium, Gym Leader Castle, etc. and the game always gave me the same level rentals as my opponent's Pokémon. Do CPU Pokémon just get higher levels later on or something?

>>10490832
standalone or not, the mere idea of using your team from GB sounds very hype. I say this but dont got stadium it's just my impression

>>10492134
Gym Leader Castle always sets you to 50. Prime Cup always sets you to 100. The other cups give the npc's slightly higher levels as you get deeper in

>>10488960
Pokemon Ranger is the most anime-like. Lots of gags and mostly story and gimmick focussed. I've not played it myself, but I've never heard anything bad about it.

>>10488968
>XD

>>10492143
So only one or two modes actually make the enemies too hard and are made for the Gameboy thing and most of the game is perfectly playable without Gameboy?

So you guys exaggerated

>>10492143
>Gym Leader Castle always sets you to 50
But that's the main mode and basically the story mode of the game and enemies aren't much higher level than you in it. You guys are complaining about side content

>>10492952
>>10492958
There's also the fact that their pokemon have better stats and movesets, whereas you're often forced to pick something like Kadabra over Alakazam due to the former's moveset being better despite the worse stats.

>>10489062
I can’t stand the downgrade in protagonist from Coliseum to Gale of Darkness.

>>10493126
A lot of the Mad Max-esque tone of Colosseum was lost in the sequel in favor of cartoony exaggeration (most visible with returning faces Miror B. and Gonzap), probably due to executive meddling wanting it to be more in line with regular Pokemon games.

>>10493126
>former member of a criminal organization, riding across the desert on a hoverbike with your hot redheaded psychic gf
>faggot riding a moped with his little sister
The difference is crazy.

Here are the ones I'd recommend.
>Mystery Dungeon Red/Blue & Time/Darkness/Sky
Offers the full Pokemon experience with a more emotional story and more challenge.
R/B is one of the comfiest games you'll ever play, T/D/S has more Pokemon and more things to do. Both are worth your time.
The "being turned into a Pokemon" aspect is love it or hate it, but otherwise all Pokemon fans will enjoy these. The quality of the Mystery Dungeon games became spotty after these two so don't feel the need to play any of the sequels.
>Pokemon Puzzle Challenge (GBC)
Panel de Pon on the go. A really fun versus puzzle game with lovely sprite art that really captures the feeling of Gen 2.
>Pokemon Pinball / Ruby and Sapphire
Fun Pokemon-themed pinball. Very few tables but the ones that are there are great. Both are (about) equally good, the main difference is artstyle.
>Pokemon Ranger / Shadows of Almia
Fun action RPGs. The main draw is the fantastic pixel art that brings the Pokemon to life. Consider putting a screen protector on your DS before playing these though, I've heard some horror stories.
The first one has the sexiest female protagonist in the entire series (IMO). The second game improves on it in all other aspects. I can't recommend the third because I've never played it, but I have bought a copy and I'm looking forward to giving it a chance.
One thing to note is that the series does have a tendency towards long stretches of nothing but dialogue so if you hate talky RPGs these might be a skip.

Also, bit of an obvious pick, but Smash Bros. is a fun Pokemon experience.

>Anything that gives off the same vibes as the anime?
Not that I know of, and I've looked. Yu-Gi-Oh fans have Tag Force, but there's no true "I am the protagonist of my own Pokemon anime" game.
No matter its flaws, the Pokemon anime has a perfect nostalgic purity to it. The best RPGs I've played come close to that feeling but nothing has matched it yet.

>>10489058
Bitter brand loyalist (console warrior) manchildren are 30% of this board.

>>10492143
I really like that the NPCs give their Pokemon nicknames in Stadium.
My absolute favorite is this guy, what a chad.

>>10488960
the one were you take picture of pokemon

>>10493019
How is this a reply to >>10492958?

You were just told that the MAIN "CAMPAIGN" MODE of Stadium 2, namely the Gym Leader Castle the game literally tells you you are the best in the world if you beat it, gives you rentals that are the same level as your opponents' Pokémon, meaning you don't need the Game Boy shit for it at all

>>10493221
Rui was using Aura before it was cool.

>>10494358
>moltrash

>>10489552
Post the link.

>>10488960
XD (I will NOT fuck off) gale of Darkness is basically the anime but one of the most boring and easy games in existence. It makes Kirby games look like Ninja Gaiden. I know these games were made for children, but I think even a toddler can mash their through way to complete the game. You’re always like 20-30 levels higher than the AI and that’s without grinding at all

>>10491961
This. Switch Snap is amazing and unironically the ideal Pokémon game. Got a few mediocre reviews because this world is ADHD and soulless today. Everyone loved N64 Snap and the Switch game is just a better version of that

>>10496813
It's a decent snes platformer where snorlax is a hidden boss and your special move thunderbolts the screen.
Found a wiki and it got videos but really it's on fightcade, someone into emulators can find and play it. https://bootleggames.fandom.com/wiki/Pocket_Monster_(Mega_Drive/SNES)

>>10491961
I still can't believe they didn't make one for the Wii U, where you're BASICALLY HOLDING A CAMERA.

>>10494943
Can anyone reply to this? I don't get what people mean when they say you need Game Boy Pokémons for Stadium 2 when in fact Gym leader Castle gives you the same level Pokémon as your opponent and you can thus easily beat it.

It looks like you only need the GB Pokémon for some optional modes that you can easily ignore

>>10497403
bump

>>10497403
The levels are the same but the stats are shit and the movesets are even more shit.

>>10498108
Stadium 1's manual has a warning at the back saying that just because you caught a Lv50 Pokemon in the Unknown Dungeon doesn't mean it's going to stand any chance as it won't have the same crucial stat gains as a Pokemon that's been trained from single-digits.

>>10498108
All of this sounds way too complicated for the kiddy target audience of this game. Then again I guess most people just played the minigames

>>10498534
I'm sure someone would've transferred their mons just because it was cool and they advertised it. if you got an endgame team on GB, trying it on another game should've crossed their minds, right? right?