/vr/ - Retro Games

Just a reminder that most OoT threads are made by a seething Nintendo hater who has OoT live rent free in his head because of its acclaim. He somehow can't just accept that it was a great game and move on with his life

It's like trying to make a gundam general on /m/ lol

>>10484497
/m/ doesn't have that much to discuss compared to the entirety of retro games. The OoT spam is annoying.

>Hmm, too many OoT threads...
>I know! Let's create yet another OoT thread!

>>10484503
>/m/ doesn't have that much to discuss
Considering it not only has mecha anime but also tokusatsu/kaiju/sentai? Yes I think there's a lot to discuss, yet still it's 75% Gundam.

>>10484516
how many mecha animes are there to discuss seriously, 100, 200 at most? still fewer than the PC Engine CD-ROM catalogue.

I’m going to play a lot of retro games that I’ve never beaten before in 2024, and OoT is at the top of my list.

>>10484520
>how many mecha animes are there to discuss seriously, 100, 200 at most?
Honestly probably a looooot more, and again, there's also tokusatsu, sentai...
/vr/ isn't 75% Zelda either, if it takes up 20% of the catalog that's already a lot. Seriously, go and count how many Gundam threads are on /m/, it's pretty funny.

Which OOT/retro character is literally you?
(I made this thread yesterday but jannies inexplicably deleted it)

>>10484639
I'm Link, simple as.

>>10484639
Me after finishing the game. Why the fuck kicks the post game depression and nostalgia so hard in OOT.

>>10484639
No one, I'm myself

>>10484431
I wanna play this game so bad bros
Will romhackers make it happen?

>>10484474
You sort of live on here too so it's a case of the pot calling the kettle black to me. I can't take your input too seriously if you can't see how little sense that makes. The OoT shmuck is just a stealth viral marketer + racist who the mods simp for because they like OoT and have weak moral constitution.

>>10484884
Who the hell gave Young Ruto boobs

>>10484431
Currently replaying the n64 zelda games, finished OOT last week. I want to ask why is the OOT lore so much more interesting than other zelda games? Like I find myself thinking about stuff like the origins of the shadow temple, the relationship of the shiekah and hyrule, the war during links birth (who was in the war who was fighting) how the forest temple is this abandoned mansion with a courtyard and paintings. Even after playing this game countless times over the years it always gets my mind jogging with these random lore details, maybe its because theres a lack of detail or something.

>>10486114
OoT was faithfully translated for the most part. The other Zeldas, including shit ones like Skyward Sword, have equally deep lore. It's just that Treehouse are a legion of con artists. The trolls who say the timeline doesn't make sense are all cringe English dub anime watchers. But it highlights a big problem in the community in that you can't extricate the amount of lore that *does* make sense from the stuff that Treehouse just didn't translate or, worse, translated wrong on purpose.

>>10486047
She always had fish teats.
sea Zoras are just built different.

>>10486239
the timeline has always been bullshit. while a few games are close enough together to be direct sequels or exist in such a way that a "future generation" has references/legends of the past one, the rest are always so far removed from each other that they basically stand alone. places, peoples, and dimensions are introduced and made intricately integral to existence, and then never mentioned or spoken of again, as well as conveniently unknown in their entirety in previous entries.

nintendo has always operated under the idea that connecting them is simply a neat idea and totally explained by "well its just cycles and rebirth, man". they do not put in the effort to flesh out and account for actual detail and world building. like, there is literally LESS effort than zanzibart shit in souls games. the real cringe are the turbo autists that think the "timeline" matters at all, least of all to nintendo, who genuinely dont give a fuck. in a recent interview after totk (maybe botw?) one of the devs was asked about how it fits into the timeline and how strict they are in development, and he said something to the effect of "sometimes, i wish we never came up with or published that idea. its too restrictive. we try to make sure we dont do anything too drastic that it retcons other games or doesnt fit in somewhere, but its not very important to the process". the "lore" is intentionally vague and actually extremely shallow because the "depth" doesnt even really exist. player questions like "whats the deal with this temple?" and "what sides fought in this war?" are literally no different than "what do they eat?" and "what was his tax policy?" because those answers dont exist and arent important.

the timeline is arbitrary and most zelda games completely stand alone. even the ones that are directly connected can be considered as a "stand alone segment" of time, and have literally no bearing on anything else before or after.

Somebody help. I tried googling but got nothing. Can someone explain the time loop mistake they made in the spirit temple? I remember reading about it years ago and thought "damn what an oversight" but can't find anything about it.

Something about how something happens in the future but you haven't done it as a kid yet or something. (And not talking about how you learn the song of storms -- it's something to do with the spirit temple)

PLEASE HELP. been driving me nuts.

>>10486047
>Who the hell gave Young Ruto boobs
Nintendo.

>>10486239
Do you have any examples of lore they fucked up?

>>10486448
I'm pretty sure that's a Master Quest only thing.

i just want to live in ocarina of time. is that weird? nothing ive experienced in real life or in any other game lives up to it. real life is fucking dogshit with no redeeming qualities

>>10488857
I understand and am working on making this a reality

>>10488857
I want to live in clock town. Id hang around in the milk bar all the time and had a crush on the romani sisters.

>>10486409
Never speak to me again under any circumstance.

>>10486448
MQ only. Chest warps from future to past so you have to revert as a child because that instance of the room only exists as a child. You're welcome.

>>10486462
Dragmire. There's no such thing but they still peddle this old fanfiction name on the TPHD site. They are so desperate for you to believe Hyrule Historia or the Literal Legend myth. Anything to take the burden of guilt off Treehouse. If you want real in-game stuff go to Legend Alliance. I'm not your mommy.

the day night cycle system in this game kind of sucks.

>>10488857
That's pretty sad to be honest. Not even joking, but I understand. I used to want to live in my dreams for the same reason. You're losing yourself, maybe stop playing games for a while.

>2024 in a few weeks
>Ship of Harkinian still does not allow you to change the aspect ratio while using higher resolutions
>The ending scene is still fucked up with the music and animations all out of sync
>The focus has shifted entirely to modding and speedrunning features and they're going to be doing Majora's Mask soon so it will probably stay like this indefinitely

>>10489264
>Dark Link still doesn't fight correctly and is way easier
>Up-C behavior still doesn't work the same

>>10489241
You think I can still play games?

Ocarina is the only game I can still play. So I think it's more than nostalgia. Other childhood games don't appeal to me anymore or other layer games outdated i played and enjoyed. If im just mindlessly in a mood to play a game its this.. No game as felt like such an adventure. I can boot up OoT any time and just run around the field or fish. Or have a blast just playing through again.
Its amazing and makes me feel young again. It's like the closest games have come to some German epic.

>>10488857
I get it. ...I get it.

>>10488857
>>10489314
It's nice to see that so many other people clearly *feel* the game in the same way. It is utterly unique in that it captures this *something* that I never knew was possible to experience before hand.

>>10489264
I'm just glad basically every other PC decomp port is mogging it, Perfect Dark PC is fantastic and constantly improving with each update and not just adding meme shit.

>>10489314
just because the nostalgia hits harder doesnt mean that it isnt nostalgia.

>>10490809
thats dumb

>>10484431
wasn't there a cool website that had all this deep lore about this game?

>>10490932
putting it on a pedestal doesnt make it true. crying when somebody points that out or denies your whimsy doesnt make it true or make you right. does the "G" in "/OoTG/" stand for gooning, where everyone just circle jerks in worship and nostalgia? whats actually dumb is "i cant play other games anymore". thats either the dumbest, fakest take, or you need actual mental therapy for deeper issues.

>>10484639

>>10491089
jesus christ dude

>>10489264
hostile fork time?

>>10491089
>whats actually dumb is "i cant play other games anymore". thats either the dumbest, fakest take, or you need actual mental therapy for deeper issues.

Nah dude, I get what he means. Obviously it's somewhat figurative, but the level of satisfaction/nuance that OoT is capable of giving you is just unlike anything else. It's like, other games can certainly be enjoyable to a good degree, but compared to OoT there this certain hollowness to everything. It's just a uniquely good game.

>>10491515
and that is literally JUST the pedestal of nostalgia. i guarantee you that you can find fans of other games that will say the same thing about their favorite games. you people are laughably devoid of self awareness.

its also worth noting that its always you people that complain the hardest with every new zelda game. you arent zelda fans, you're oot fans. hell, you're not even really "fans", you're zealots.

>>10492207
Why do you even care

>>10492207
>i guarantee you that you can find fans of other games that will say the same thing about their favorite games

I don't see this to anywhere near the same degree though. It's just so well recognized that OoT is special, and not in a merely "this is popular so of course it must be good" way. Like, if you've really experienced it to its fullest you'll know what I'm talking about, and many people in this thread clearly do, but it really is capable of giving you a phenomenal kind of experience that I don't actually see any reason to believe has any equivalent in any other game (save for perhaps parts of MM and a small handful of other games, but in each case the game in question still doesn't achieve the same 'total mastery' OoT does in a way that permeates every aspect of the game to close to the same degree).

It's like, I've played the game, and I know what I experienced playing it, and it's the kind of thing where I seriously doubt that people who have other games that aren't OoT as their favorite really experienced something on the same level, because if that was the case I'd expect to see people talking about them with the same kind of reverent awe to similar degrees, and I really just don't.

Like the fact that you'd react with the kind of skepticism you are is really enough to prove my point, if you really enjoyed any game as much as people here with do OoT then you'd completely understand why people have this particular kind of reaction to it, and sympathize with that, and get why critics singled it out as "the game people would still be talking about decades from now" out of everything on release (keeping in mind this was fucking 1998 of all years).

>>10492224
am i not allowed to make a point on a public discussion forum? was a little bit of truth too much rain on your parade?

>>10492271
i just dont get why you even care

>>10492265
>same kind of reverent awe to similar degrees, and I really just don't.
i've seen this with plenty of other games. chrono trigger, ff7, half life (not sure if 1 or 2 matters for that), metal gear, deus ex, sonic adventure, and more.

you might ask yourself, "well then why dont i see more of it? why arent these games as highly rated and regarded?" and the answer is because its literally just nostalgia. just because the nostalgia hits you harder for this one thing doesnt mean its not nostalgia. just because they got hit just as hard from something else doesnt mean its not nostalgia. people obsess and fixate on all sorts of things. its still just nostalgia at the end of the day.

"its just so perfect and special" is just confirmation bias and cope. plenty of people will agree its a great game while still recognizing that the pedestal you're putting it on is pretty disingenuous and cringe. we're all happy for you that you had a great time and all, but come on dude, just be honest with yourself.

>>10492207
>>10492271
>>10491089
Nta but youre just being a massive pedantic faggot. Did a guy dressed as Link touch you as a kid?

>>10492293
nah you're wrong here. its demonstrably more than nostalgia. this is silly and a bad faith argument

>>10492308
in what way is it "demonstrably more" when some anon has an obsessive fixation? its disingenuous to ignore the experiences of others being equally nostalgic, attached to, and obsessive of other games.

actually, its kind of funny that you chose the phrase "bad faith", because it is a lot like a religious argument, where somebody is saying "no, my religion is the ONE TRUE GOD. those other religious experiences arent the same or valid. and i can prove it, because my religion is the real one, because i felt it so". you completely lack self awareness or honesty.

>>10492321
yeah well i guess youll just have to keep specifically going into an oot thread to tell people you dont like oot much nobody here has even done anything to offend you like insulting some other 20 year old game

>>10492321
The expression “bad faith” has nothing to do with religion. You must be some american who has just discovered atheism and wanted to rant, it’s pretty cringe.

>>10492335
>why would you do this to us?
>what did we ever do to you?
>god, you're so mean, i dont understand why you would do something like this
>BAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWW
literally all i said was "just because the nostalgia hits harder doesnt mean that it isnt nostalgia." and then anons carry on with lofty zealotry. am i not allowed to participate in online discussion? is there some rule where threads must be "circle jerk only, no matter how ridiculous and disingenuous" or "echo chambers only"?

all i did was make a plain statement, and you clowns are going into full defense mode and having a meltdown, ironically as if you're desperate to prove me right.

>>10492338
>missing the point
>too stupid to understand simple word play
>still doesnt explain anything
yikes.

>>10489230
yes. you should be able to cleanly traverse hyrule in a day cycle with some time to spare, stupid to feel like you're having to race the sun just to cross a walk bridge and 100 feet. they should also allow you to advance time sleeping in each town.

>>10492356
>they should also allow you to advance time sleeping in each town

Like, do you not understand why this would be redundant? Like, there is a very significant thing that very few players would have likely missed that already achieves this kind of thing.

>>10492364
just a small nod to basic cause and effect. and would eliminate some of the awkwardness present early in the game before you learn the song.

>>10484474
>if its acclaimed its great
Ah yeah, and some of the purest works of art are Guardians of the Galaxy movies