/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10483435
Wrong game.

>>10483435
By far the best rail shooter and pure soul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8sEZTeReLs

For me? It's Sin and Punishment

>>10483435
Only bad thing about it is that this is peak. There is nothing else that can really best it in a Rail shooter. Vanark and Panzer Dragoon come close, but there is something with S64 that makes me come back.

>>10483491
a solid choice friendo

>>10483435
>no continues after dying
this is only acceptable for short games that can be beaten in 1 hour.

>>10483542
game like star fox 64 topkek

What happened to games like this? I'm sad.
Playing this and rogue squadron was awesome.

>>10483560
movie games

>>10483560
Shut up goy people don't like rail shooting games, go buy the western-made remake of Panzer Dragoon and stop complaining, or better yet, stop liking retro games already and go hype gta6 like everyone else

>>10483560
i can't stop playing sf64 and space harrier

>>10483495
>>10483502
Both of these were pure N64 kino. Just fun gameplay, no bullshit

>>10483568
You were born in 2010.

>>10483435
Agree that's a lot more fun than most mundane collect-a-thons for this era

It looked a lot more fun when it was released back then too

Would still probably pick gauntlet over that and no it's not a collect a thon because it was linear and had keys/doors/items/etc

Wish n64 emulators could get their shit together

>>10483586
they never will n64 is the only retro console I don't emulate

>>10483435
Short, sweet, action packed, oozing with soul, a complete improvement upon the original. It's my fav for the n64.

>>10483560
Its like the staff who made this all died or something after release. Or like Nintendo accidentally made a really good arcade game and then couldn't do it again because they have severe autism. Everything they tried to add in sequels(not sfa) just didn't work because it's not a Zelda or Mario game.

>make a cool arcade game for your home console
>take advantage of technology seamlessly blend voice acting narrative and game play to provide enough context to be interesting while being nonstop game play
>don't elaborate
>never do it again
>nobody copies them

>>10483620
Is PSX solved?

>>10483645
64 was the only Starfox completely developed Nintendo.
>Or like Nintendo accidentally made a really good arcade game and then couldn't do it again because they have severe autism
They were actually going to have an arcade box for SFAssault (which would explain why it was so linear) like they did with Fzero GX too, but that fell through along with Namco.

>>10483649
>Turn this awesome arcade railshooter into an adventure game
>At the turn of the millennium using one of the most cherished devs who ever existed, as they they get bought by microsoft.

>>10483435
Based beyond belief. Probably my most replayed game of all time

>>10483649
>>nobody copies them
they copied themselves with 64 3D and Zero and still couldn't replicate it

>>10483435
>>10483491
Both patrician

>>10483435
based
>>10483491
it's good, but I think MK64 and F-Zero X clear it

>>10483435
>>10483491
>>10483502
I still need to play all of these. Last N64 game I tried was Star Soldier: Vanishing Earth and it was pretty fun. I kind of forgot N64 has a decent selection of games and JP exclusives

>>10483435
debunked! i am the designated debunker and i am debunking this.
Star furry 64 isn't even the best N64 rail shooter

>>10483645
Shigeru Miamoto happened and ruined everything.

>>10483435
Based arcade run enjoyer. Discovering how to unlock the alternate paths and getting to the sick submarine level was a formative experience for me.

I wish there were romhacks for this game, it’s one of my all time favorites, along with Rome: Total War and Here Comes The Pain.

good game, but a bit too easy for me

>>10484673
Did all the medals?

>>10484676
Nah, maybe one day. It's a bit boring when you're not getting your ass kicked.

>>10483495
based

>>10483649
qft

Best thread on the board right now. Will throw in another vote for this being a fantastic game. Really gave me a chance as a kid to learn how to git gud at a game. Fought to clear the easy route before discovering the harder routes and still enjoy playing to this day.

>>10486209
it's probably the most replayable game of all time

>>10483435
Its dope as fuck.
>>10483491
Its dope as fuck
>>10483502
I wish i had a copy

>>10483435
Amazing game that gave me a lot of bang for my father's buck

The rumble pack is an absolute must. It's a game changer.

>>10486305
>tfw hitting all the switches on MacBeth
>the sheer ecstasy of the rumble after
You have not experienced true bliss without it.

Medaling sector z on hard is stupid obnoxious, fucking katt, I ain't your buddy go away

>>10483751
iirc Zero was basically all in-house too, Platinum just handled asset work.

>>10483926
Star Fox 64 is better than Sin and Punishment. Omega Boost is better than both.

>>10487854
ok dude

>>10483435
>Ocarina and Mario can fuck
OwO

That would be F-Zero X but these are good runner-ups.
>>10483435
>>10483502

>>10483568
Ironic shitpost or not, rail-shooters genuinely are obsolete as a genre, hence all releases being remakes, intentional throwback indie games like Ex-Zodiac, or Raw Thrill making shit like movie tie-ins or Halo Fireteam Raven.

>>10483435
its good but mario is better. ocarina is gay and for homosexuals and women.

>>10483435
It's actually WWF No Mercy. Yes that's right the best game on that shit console is a "sports" game

>>10488062
Dead sure, but obsolete? Its just that nobody except indies are even attempting making them. Its like the genre just vanished

>>10488146
Genre likely died out due to death of arcade machines. They are amazing games to put in an arcade cabinet with insert coin to continue. Doesn't require knowledge to get started, just boot up and start shooting and git gud by playing, no need to know where to go. Great casual game.

>>10483560
GTA3 happened. Unironically.

Nobody will pay $60 for a 2 hour long game anymore when GTA offered hundreds of hours of gameplay in an open world. Look at every single AAA game in the past 15 years. Open world.

>>10488062
>>10488227
>tfw your favorite genres are rail shooters and light gun games

>>10483586
>tfw no ports to a console that actually has good emulation like gamecube
>>10483504
the frustrating part is SF64 isnt 100% a rail shooter either. so youll never be satisfied completely with anything else. i guess it helps that nintendo was an outsider to the genre so they had their own little spin with it.

>>10483560
If a game isn't 40 hours long empty open world garbage people won't buy it

>>10483586
>>10483620
is there really no good n64 emulator for this?

>>10483586
What's the most recommended N64 emulator these days?

>>10483560
>Rogue squadron
We could have had a cool and likely beautiful dragon flight action game were it not for Sony's autism....

>>10488146
What this anon >>10488227 said. They're games that thrived in the arcades they came from, which were a.) social environments where other people would be seeing and competing with your scores, and b.) trying to get money from you. You want to do well, you want your name on the score board, so you have to get a lot of points. You keep missing enemies, denying you points, so you have to keep feeding in money to retry the stages and perform better.

'90s consoles were all about trying to emulate arcade games, because that was the most advanced stuff available. Of course Star Fox wasn't up to snuff in a technical capacity with its direct inspirations like Starblade, but it was a huge deal anyway because it served as a decent approximation at home, with the Nintendo charm and aesthetics on top. A few years later Star Fox 64 was still a big deal for the same reasons, on top of it possessing features lacked by much of the N64's library, like full voice acting and actually good controls. Look at a contemporary of SF64, something like Rogue Squadron 1; great game, but on the actual N64 it runs like shit compared to Star Fox, it's much slower and there are never as many ships flying around at once, because you roam wide environments with complex geometry and the NPCs have actual AI pathfinding. As a matter of fact, the original Star Fox was going to be a free-roaming game until Miyamoto decided on the linear obstacle course design because it offered much better performance. Star Fox 1's developers ditched on-rails gameplay entirely as soon as they developed more powerful hardware, hence Star Fox 2 not including any of it whatsoever.

Flash forward to current year, and arcadey games in that vein are considered novelty throwbacks or budget titles in the public consciousness. "Traditional" Star Fox is kind of a bad value proposition at full price; nobody wants to pay $60 for a Triple-A game they'll beat in an hour, even if it's supposed to be replayable.