/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
SUM TING /VR/Y WONG
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/10413464
https://archive.org/details/shadow-warrior-mapping-kit

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
AD MORTEM FINAL CUT (v1.5.6)
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3exnqm8nxg4gukhj10hcp?rlkey=r5nwzu32pfh2dtefpbjy2p49b
Ad Mortem Guns (DECORATE): https://files.catbox.moe/ihv4l4.zip

FORE/VR/ ALONE (beta 3)
https://files.catbox.moe/u9smv4.zip

=== WHEN IT'S DONE ===
A SERIOUS CASE OF /vr/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/9611406

VIOLENT RUMBLE 2
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/9941720

=== NEWS ===
[12-01] The Black Parade (Thief 1) - released
https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152429

[12-01] Quake 2 N64 map jam - released
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/quake-2-re-release-n64-sp-map-jam

[12-01] The Troopers' Playground - now in Unity Doom
https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/article/new-add-on-troopers-playground-doom

[11-28] Hell's Bane released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/136905

[11-28] Realm of Chaos - 25th Anniversary Edition
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125508

[11-24] iSpook/Spookysprouts has passed away in his sleep June of this year
>>10443323

[11-20] Headless Chicken maps are completed for SP
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/128633

[11-20] Blood: Fresh Supply now includes the DOS version
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1010750/view/7425934518550758530

[11-18] Magikus 2: Dorakk's Revenge
https://gofile.io/d/ehueQT

[11-17] Half-Life - 25th anniversary update
https://half-life.com/en/halflife25/

[11-12] Raze - updated to 1.8.1
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=78471

[11-12] Plasma - anon's wip 16-map MBF21 wad
https://files.catbox.moe/qwz8a2.wad

[11-10] Dominatrix (SiN sourceport) - v1 released
https://rohit.itch.io/dominatrix

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

>>10471504
OP, hey OP! You forgor: >>10464937

If a Caco were to wear pants, how would he do it?

>>10471585
one pantleg in each cloaca

caleb is a fucking maggot

>>10471585
a single parachute pant

>>10471585

>>10471606
doomcute was a mistake

>>10471585
Cacodemons couldn't wear pants even if they tried, they need their anus exposed in order to fart so that they can float. Why do you think cacos damage and block you despite being way below them? Those farts are so dense you can't move through them and damage you with intense stench.

FORWARD!TONGUE!
CALEB!POWER!

>>10471605
>>10471607
>>10471651
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!
https://youtu.be/2dbR2JZmlWo

Wonder why so few wads have animated skies.

>>10471663
>rage mortem
my sides

>>10471675
(you)

>>10471663
>anon around sure making Nightdive full
Who's this shill

The marathon games give me such a eerie feeling and make me feel lonely. The only other game to make me feel this way is the original Prince of Persia.

>>10471663
>different wads getting cacowards
I knew it

>>10471663
>based early love machine
My favorite in a long time

>>10471706
the original Starflight was lonelycore. it felt like going through the ruins of Late Antique western Europe. Excepting the Veloxi regions when you make friends of them, those guys could become bros.
>Elowan
exiled keepers of the ancient lore
>Thrynn
basically sociopathic bandits although if you set up your crew you can befriend them
>Spemin
despicable bandits
>Uhlek
reaver-tier bandits [they get a backstory in the sequel]
>Gazurtoid
fanatical bandits
So, in order: Christian monks, Byzantines, Gypsies, Huns, and Arabs.

>>10471605
Caleb foreskin
Caleb foreskin

>>10471732
man what is the best way to play Starflight I and II nowadays?

>>10471637
Alright, so they have to brappers, one for vertical movement and one for forwards movement. But how do they turn?

>>10471702
At least that anon ain't simping for Ubisoft nor post-2009 Gearbox.

IT'S STILL SCREENSHOT SATURDAY FUCKERS. IF YOU THOUGHT YOU WERESAFE IN THIS NEW THREAD, YOU THOUGHT WRONG! WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!

>Nightdive didn't remove the "Tell your friends to buy this game. Give us your money." easter egg on Turok 3 when using the original graphics, despite it's removal on the HD textures.

>>10471663
>Talking woof
>Love machine
>Usually faggot
>Ass mind
>Final fun
>Fucked animation

>>10471784
I was going to say simping for any company is a dumb thing to do, but then I remembered how big of a Valve nerd I am

>Thief in the OP image
>Thief in the newspost
God I wish Thievery had a native linux version. Would be fun to try to get a match going, but trying to run it through Wine on my server box is two sets of hoops.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFxsc3fqNSk

.... Hideous Dukestructor 3D

How's Turok 3's 144hz? Did they get rid of the Kex jitter?

>>10470540
So some of the heavy lifting for this was already done for me as I'm using these Doomslayer hands TypicalSF made. To make the custom hand I took a normal gloved Doomguy hand, grayscaled it, and then painted over it using the color shown here with Aseprite's color layer setting.

I've spent the past like half hour trying to do an exact replica of how I made the finger plates, but I haven't had much luck there. But what I essentially did was start with solid block colors, then doing basic shading to give it a rounded and shiny metal look, then I duplicated that layer and raised the dupe up and to the left of the original, fucking with the brightness and contrast to make the lower bits darker.

After that it was just blurring and blending shit to give it a shiny brushed metal look, then I pushed it through a limited color palette to help bring back some of that sharpness. Aseprite has a feature where you can force dithering on a whole image when you make it use a limited color palette.
I'm not a particularly good teacher, hopefully you can make use of this knowledge somehow.

>>10471993
nicely done, and thanks for the info

>>10471824
Thievery was a lot of fun back in the day...
OWA

>>10471351
kek that's not even the official HD models, where the hell did you get that modded bootleg from?

>>10471993
As for the TypicalSF hands, I took this sheet here, and removed the hands I didn't need. After that, I grayscaled all of the armor bits to make it easier to work with, on this step I also added some other details like scratches, panels, extra rivets, and tried to give a leathery look to some parts of the gloves under the plating. Along with this I also adjusted the contrast on some parts of the gauntlets to make them pop out more. Finally I used the color layer effect on Aseprite again to paint over the hands.

>>10471804
Did they created an hd model?
nice

>>10470652
>As for SMOD, ReduxFinal
Based. Enjoy anon.

>>10471605
a mucking what?

doom, but you're an octopus who can wield 8 completely different guns all controlled by different buttons in a single slot simultaneously, and the encounters are balanced around this mechanic?

>>10472401
Doooooooom (eight os)

>>10472401
>all controlled by different buttons
I don't have enough fingers or even buttons for all of that.

>>10472478
Use your toes

>>10472481
Why isn't foot keyboards a thing? I want that now.

>>10471816
Vamp chick with a serious case of pink eye

>>10472496
All keyboards are foot keyboards.
armless niggas play guitar with they feet

>>10472507
Cute. Would facefuck.

>>10472508
Can you have 2 keyboards at once on a PC and have both working fine?

>>10472514
If you can have two dicks why not?

>>10472523
Wait, what do you mean I have two dicks?

>>10472478
how did you lose 3 fingers

>>10472579
One entire hand is occupied with movement and the remaining hand only has 5 fingers.

>>10472507
Say that's pretty good. Who is she and what kinda project is she in?

>>10472579
pettin' kitties

https://vocaroo.com/15JOC61tWdfk
Lord Blaz dies in a tragic go-karting accident by driving onto the freeway.ogg

>>10472706
Blaz canonically can't drive or operate most machines. Or bows for that matter. So this is fitting.

>>10472636
you don't have to be using every single movement key simultaneously without halting for the 50ms it takes to reach elsewhere
the clunkiness adds to the octopus experience

>>10472667
Random character I made based around the old blur eye for HDest and was gonna be used as a skin as such, though I'm thinking about using this for a suitless mage class for Deathstrider first.

>>10471375
i guess there won't be anyone to back him up when he eventually leaves for good measure, can't even recognize names of the current mappers anymore

>>10472898
>can't even recognize names of the current mappers anymore
tbf it's always like that. a lot of the recognizable names from yesteryear stopped or slowed mapping ages ago and now sorta just act as mods in various places. and new ones take their place.
the wheel turns

playing Doom via GZDoom. turned off crouching, free aim and jump, no texture filtering either
difficulty is Hey, Not Too Rough. I wasn't sure which mode was normal, but I haven't died yet and I'm on E1M8: Phobos Anomaly, so maybe it's easy mode
got lost a few times so my times are probably shit, but it's still good fun. not sure if the automap thing is vanilla, where you can navigate just with the map open
either way it's a lot more enjoyable than Doom 64 so far, which is what I started with. the puzzles and keyhunting is nowhere near as bad. very rewarding to find secrets in this too

>>10472941
Doom 64 has some banger maps and atmosphere, but some encounters are kinda aggravating with the controller. It's better on PC.
I didn't have a lot of problems with switch/key hunting that I recall though.

>>10471979
I think it's capped at 120

>>10472941
You could make your miniscule status bar normal-sized with leftmost setting in HUD options, I think you'd need to turn "Full options menu" to see it. There is also 'Vanilla Essence' mod to make the game appear and play vanillaish under the press of a button, it's also configurable.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/131349
When you eventually get tired of Doom 2 or Plutonia and would want to revisit the very first episode, you might want to check this mapset.

>>10471503
Played Quake 2 remaster that I picked up for a few bucks on Black Friday week. Despite being a linear game there's quite a few alternate paths that I can't tell if I made the wrong choice at first. Maybe I'm turtling but each level took me at least 30 minutes for better or worse. My only gripe so far is I couldn't get VRR working so maybe Kex engine fucked something up.

>>10472941
>Hey, Not Too Rough
That's basically Easy, with "I'm Too Young To Die" being very easy (less damage taken, and more ammo from pickups).
Hurt Me Plenty is like Normal/Medium, with Ultra-Violence being Hard.
Nightmare is like like Bullshit Hard, because it was more added as a joke than as a serious difficulty (though if you're real good and can adapt to its various changes, it can be played).

>Time
Don't stress that too much, unless you're looking to match or beat speedrun times, that doesn't really matter.

>>10472771
LMAO that takes me back. Time to map though.

>>10472771
As Uncle Terry said: make games, don't play em

I still need to figure out why a projectile's SpecialMissileHit giving an enemy a powerup crashes GZDoom if the enemy is hit twice, even with a check to skip giving the item if the enemy already has one. Doesn't matter if it's a PowerupGiver or the powerup directly

>>10473157
I think playing video games is pretty important for making good shit though.

>>10473126
>Time to map though.

>Miss 1 life force in Turok 3
>Have to restart the whole chapter or else you can't get max HP
>Miss 1 PSG part in Turok 3
>Have to restart the whole chapter or else you can't get the PSG
There are multiple points of no return in the levels too. What the fuck kind of game design is this?

>>10473157
Code please. I can take a look if you want help.

>>10471663
>buy free n64

>>10472919
To be honest, my reason why i haven't mapped as much is mostly because i kind of lost interest on it, that or i lack inspiration.

either way i just don't feel like working on doom stuff much.

>>10471471
You missed my point entirely by equating me to "good hope they starve to death now" anon. I was just pointing out the flaw in his logic where he cried about voice actors being egoistic and greedy because they wanna be paid for it. If they're so terrible, just go and find actors who would be willing to offer their locals for free or acceptable prize instead of further cementing the popularity of those who he deems "egoistic". While that approach could damage their income and character, at the end of a day it won't eraze any potential narcissism because, for example, their thought will go like "I'm ripped off because I'm great and popular".
>How is it a "terrible slippery slope", anyway!?
What I meant is how normalizing ripping off certain voice actors due to their controversial character or something like that. This leads a door open for further invasive tactics from modders and developers/publishers alike that will be fully opened eventually. It would be just a matter of time before it happens to "your boy/girl". Even if we fixate on "controversy" angle, nothing stops you to cancel someone to get a "free voice" card. One of the reasons why recent actor & writer strikes in Hollywood happened were because of AI and (in case of actors) losing control of their voice and appearance.
The thing about voice actor (and regular ones) and AI is how problematic mix of the two can get. Someone can just decide to take someone's voice without permission to utilize it in some porno mod without their consent... In fact, it's already happening and I know how pointless it is to have this type of argument on 4Chan of all places as I'll be called moralfag with this point completely dismissed because I'm "simping for voice actors".
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/audio/voice-actors-express-worry-over-modders-cloning-voices-with-ai

>>10472136
2 months late anon
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/md5-arachnid-for-quake-2-remastered

>>10472020
and then you have this made off the PS2 and original textures https://gamebanana.com/mods/180734

>>10473684
it makes me wonder why valve hasn't replaced the HD models with these yet and let barney be his own model since they are using community assets for patches.
even CAGED added proper hd models of the original ones

any good resources for getting into trenchbroom?

>>10473620
every single quake map you've ever downloaded violates somebody's copyrights with their textures. most doom wads violate some music rights somewhere. unofficial patches crack copy protection and provide illegal downloads for soundtracks. modding in real weapons / cars / trademarks is an offense, and uncensoring red crosses is a war crime.
considering all of that, getting pissy about imitation VA is retarded. it's different with big corpos profiting from the "likeness", especially after an actor's death. but modding is free game. if you disagree, you're just a useful idiot bringing about everything-as-a-service.

>>10473697
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgDKRPte5Y0AZ_K_PZbWbgBAEt5xf74aE

>>10473690
>using community assets for patches
Where? When?

>>10471503
What renderer do you use for Unreal Engine 1 games?

>>10473795
OpenGL

>>10471503
here is the N64 Map Jam trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSL3l5pU-vk

>>10473684
very nice

>>10473834
very atmospheric

>>10473701
>every single quake map you've ever downloaded violates somebody's copyrights with their textures.
>most doom wads violate some music rights somewhere.
>modding in real weapons / cars / trademarks is an offense
>uncensoring red crosses is a war crime.

>>10473834
I thought it was Kingpin from the thumbnail

>>10473834
>Q2 64 mapjam, time for colors!
>get moods and spooks instead
>also a good stupid fun Mario level
I'm liking it so far

>>10473956
>most doom wads violate some music rights somewhere.
Most Doom wads violate every copyright going, with sound effects, sprites, just about everything going.

Most credits sections are just huge lists of people going "oh fuck please don't DMCA or sue me".

>>10473976
and this is how you notice how Q2R lightning is better than most Q1 source ports and maps.
It has a lot of potential for mapping, even more than KMQ2 maps under lazarus

>>10473985
There's some cool shit going on in here
>the part in Dead Zone with the weird moon when you find out it's no moon

>>10472350
I am. There is a whole fuck load more enemies than I thought.

>>10474018
Oh boy yeah, each SMOD branch does that to an extent

>>10472350
>>10474018
>>10474026
I used to play the shit out of Smod Tactical back then

>>10472350 >>10474026
>>10474061
Does the SMOD make HL2's fighting fun?

when does sigil 2 release again

How make Turok 3 good
>Add braptors to level 1
>Add craptors to level 2

>>10474061
I wish I'd gotten into it sooner. It can also be a pain to set up these days: I managed to get this going but it's crashing when loading the 9th level.
>>10474148
I'm picky and I like it, I now find it as enjoyable as FEAR in a messy but fun way. Some versions of the mod get crazy like how they buff gunship fights.

>>10474180
When Sandy Peterson and American Mcgee have knocked out 26 more maps.

>>10473701
Basically, you will just keep missing the point and put words into my mouth.

>>10474253
American is too busy selling the plushies. I'm glad he found peace finally.

>>10474329
I still feel sorry for the poor dude, he's probably never gonna find out whatever the fuck happened to his sister.

Why does every Romero map in Doom 2 play just like a Petersen map? Replace revenant ambushes with caco ambushes. City maps? How about a city map with chaingunners on every floor?

Was he too busy with quake?

>>10474364
he got corrupted by Sandy's mapping obviously.

>>10474364
He was busy playing deathmatch. Sandy let him copy his homework, but asked him to change it up a bit so Carmack wouldn't notice.

>>10474186
Endtrails were the coolest enemies.

>>10473795
Software.

I should've taken up Half-Life mapping instead of Doom mapping. Everyone in the Half-Life (1 & 2) community always gets together and makes something really cool and unique.
But the Doom communitiy is fucking lame. Nobody makes cool TCs in it. Everyone just makes the same mappack over and over again, same gun mod with no new enemies again and again.

I wish I wasn't retarded so I would learn Hammer instead of Doom Builder.

>>10471816
Here's the input ideas mapfag and my current progress on the map project. As you can see I've put in 3 hidden switches that reveal an optional area, which reveals another area that I have yet to build. Very slow week again, i'll show actual screenshot progress sometime soon.

>>10474494
The Age of TC's is gone thanks to Zdoom Forums Dictatorship and Doomworld's shenanigans
Just look what happened to term.

>>10474509
And instead of forming their own community, everyone just snuck in their tiny corner and avoid each other like the plague. That's the bigger problem. Nobody new in the Doom community is interested in making a TC, only the old guard was, which was precisely driven out by Doomworld and ZGroom.

>>10473782
TF2 updates have been community stuff for ages. IIRC they also did the same with a Left 4 Dead 2 campaign.

>>10473795
DX11

>>10474509
Didn't an Ashes expansion come out last year?

>>10474180
1 week.

>>10474581
>expansion
And how many full TCs have come out since then? 1? Incredible. A shining display of creativity.

>>10474494
2018 - REKKR, Ashes
2019 - Hellforged, Paradise
2021 - Ashes Afterglow
And now most TC makers are releasing their work as a commercial games like Supplice, Age Of Hell, Brutal Fate, Selaco.

As for just new enemies, almost every year since 1995 has had few wads with them. Hell, our own Ad Mortem had lot of new monsters.

>>10474364
He liked Sandy's maps.

id say, it is time for /vr/ to finally do the Quake 2 Project with the remaster and using assets from the other TC's like STAND Devastator Swarm Launcher and the soon to be ready PS1 boss HD model

Or Remake The Armageddon Device using the /vr/ tilesets and have someone from here to retex the strogg enemies, Remaster has a hidden snow effect.

>>10474642
And there is no bickering inbetween them or any of the lying shit toward Quake 2 and 3 certain people made as the save me romero meme.
I may have my issues with romero, but he never hated any of the games id made after he left.

>>10474621
Making TCs takes time. Even 90s didn't have so many TCs. There's shitload of free standalone gzdoom games by now, so there might more per year now than then.

>>10474627
Abysm 2 was 2020 with it's own expansion in 2021 and 2022.

Also Ashes is getting a prequel and Batandy is still working on Golden Souls 3.

>>10474516
Most old guard is still up there in dw, like me. Most of us don't care shit about that drama queen shit. We make solo maps, we participate in community projects. Wheels are still turning. Of course every community has few bad apples, but you seem to have strong will to create this weird sense of narrative that there is something massive and horrible going on. There is not. Dw is fine, db is fine and vr is fine. Nobody cares about this faggot drama, that you complain on every thread.

>>10474621
You bitch like two women. Go make one yourself.

I've been trying out Unreal Tournament 1999 with the Xvehicles mod recently and am loving it. The mod especially makes the game feel a lot like Command and Conquer Renegade - just glorious chaos with assholes rolling around in OP tanks and airstrikes from helicopters and Halo banshee rip-offs. It makes games very hard to win for either team but it's just a highly entertaining mess.

>>10474785
Why not just play Onslaught in UT2004 at this point?

>>10474791
I've never played UT2004 but I guess I'll check it out at some point.
I heard they had an official mode that's similar to the mod I'm playing so hopefully it's just as much fun.

>>10474148
More fun, but it's not the BEST shooting I've ever played. You just get a lot more guns, a powerful kick, some extra options under the SMOD tab, and Max Payne/FEAR-ish slo-mo. Oh and gore. There's also different versions of it so it could vary quite a bit.

>>10474797
Yes, the mode is called Onslaught and it's the same
>very hard to win for either team but it's just a highly entertaining mess
It's pure kino, there's nothing like that in modern games.

>>10474818
>Yes, the mode is called Onslaught and it's the same
I'll stick with this mod for now but will check it out in the near future.
>It's pure kino, there's nothing like that in modern games.
Yeah, I'm having a great time even if it's impossible for anyone to score. The mod even comes with a few random levels like the one fun Halo multiplayer map "Blood Gulch". I hate Halo so being able to play the only good map with good weapons and movement is a joy. It also comes with a map where you're fighting over two giant toilets so it's not all gold.

>>10471503
Why the fuck is Thief lumped in with the boomer shooters?

>>10474863
You shoot people in first person and it is retro.

I'm fairly new to custom Doom WADS but I've been wanting to play some Christmas/winter themed ones. Any suggestions?

>>10474867
Why isn't Ultima Underworld or or Kingsfield here then?

>>10474873
It could be, you just have to talk about them. Not with me though, I don't play them.

>>10474863
You know what the fuck you're doing so stop it.

>>10474718
Even for gameplay modding, most people realized they don't want to deal with that drama shit and went off to work on their stuff in peace or in smaller groups where that shit isn't an issue.

>>10474660
Does anyone knows what does TAD Messes up with quake 2 code?

>>10474893
It could be worse, you could be stuck with the sorry state that's the Quake community. The situation is so bad there that they're seemingly doing damage control and denying it.

>>10474494
I'd love to see a HL1 community project but tying everything together would be a massive PITA

>>10474873

>>10474945
whyboner.png

>>10474925
It was getting that way some years back but the more level-headed people gradually realized that a bunch of servers and sites were just infectious swamps of misery.

>>10474945
>4 tards firing chainguns at once
Love to see it. Love to hear it, too.

>>10474945
Which Might & Magic is this again?

>>10474018
>>10474061
>>10474148
Anybody know if there is anything like SMOD for the other Half-Life episodes? I don't mind if there isn't. Just checking before I get going into those.

>>10474509
Doom TCs have always been rare, mostly because making full sprite rotation sets for a single enemy is much more time consuming than creating a single model and making it animate.

>>10474869
Look in here : https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/themes/xmas/

>>10475135
Awesome, thanks!

>>10475135
>mostly because making full sprite rotation sets for a single enemy is much more time consuming than creating a single model and making it animate.
and also the community's almost always had a low as fuck amount of people able and willing to do full rotational sprites from scratch.

In recent years a few have done them on commission for other people, which is entirely reasonable to do given the time that goes into them.

>>10475135
Which christmas wad was the one where you play as Santa and the death sound is
>OWWW MY FACE

>>10474869
Obvious Whitemare 1-2, can't go wrong with them. A lot of great maps.
Ice Cavern alone is kino of the highest order, even though it has some really bullshit secrets.
sorry about filters

To the tech guys here, what is the maximum number of sprites than can be drawn on screen in vanilla doom?

When using mods along with smooth doom, smooth goes on top in the load order, right?

How do you guys remember all the hundreds of wads you have played?
I'm not talking about statistics because it's simple and something like DoomLauncher or even a notepad can track that, I'm talking actually visualizing the level in your head. Sometimes I look at the map of the level on doomwiki and some places are instantly recognizable, but sometimes I can't recall the level at all.

>>10475263
If I remember correctly, 128. The usual. The most distant ones will stop being drawn.

>>10474508
Looking good! Think you'll be able to squeeze in my texture + room suggestion?

>>10465118
>>10465214

>>10475283
Some maps are memorable, some aren't. For the wad in general, I might not remember where every single secret is or every single trap, but I can remember roughly how good or bad it is and sometimes one or two quirks of a particular wad.

>>10475293
what the fuck

>>10475285
Is it 128 per frame?

>>10475310
Yes. I'm not sure what other options there are.

>>10475283
Photographic memory, shit's a curse.

>>10475316
How come? Must be great for memorizing stuff.

>>10475329
nta but imagine something like avocado spam on /v/

>>10475283
I've been thinking of creating a website (that I wouldnt share with anyone) to post screenshots of cool wads and mods from other games so I can look back on them.

>>10475329
Not getting to replay something a long ass time later when you've forgotten what it was like and get to experience it almost as new again.

>>10475283
I just do. I go to sleep and dodge cyberdemon's rockets in my sleep.

>>10474494
Anon, mapping for HL is pretty easy. You just place some blocks, some lights, some monsters and and a couple of scripts. And the map is done!

>>10475303
I did not see that suggestion, because you can't get (You)'s from different pages. I'll build that in, I have a special dick room in Akoopasoup after all. The list of to do stuff is long.

>>10474945
I have seen Doom mods stealing monster sprites from M&M7\8 to expand its bestiary, but did anyone tried to rip the Dungeon Keeper 1 mobs for the same task?
They seem more appropriate for it compared to the M&M models' graphic style

>>10475365
Great! Keep up the good work.

What's going on here when I have a line unexplored /unactivated on my map? I've had it happen in a few different wads.
Is just a mapping glitch?
Sorry for not pausing on the map long in the gif

SUNDAY NIGHT SHITSHOW!
It's time to play some Fartyguns whit H2H-xmas, what could possible go wrong?

Name: "[TSPG] Sunday Night Shitshow 12: H2H FartygunsFest 2023
Password: "fartmas2023"


remember to bind the fart key in fgoptions

>>10475217
H2H-Xmas has it

>>10475459
>Fartyguns
oh boy here we go

Onetime I configured my phone to play brutal doom2 with GZdoom and a bluetooth controller. It was a pa9n but its doable.

>>10475390
>but did anyone tried to rip the Dungeon Keeper 1 mobs for the same task?
Kegan's used the knight in GMOTA I think.

I need a comprehensive list of Doom TC or standalone games that are Doom-like but use magic/wizardry/dark fantasy themes. Sort of like Hexen, but good.

>>10475518
Go through the Abysm series, it'll take you a good while.

A Doom doodle I made 10 years ago.

>>10475518
Give Schism a look on ModDB
/mods/schism1

I'm sorry lads... I had to turn on ambient occlusion in REKKR... It's too ugly...
>>10475518
REKKR has magic kind of

>>10475283
This is why I like single-segment UV'ing maps blind. Harder/longer maps ingrain themselves in my head.
I also tend to replay shorter maps after beating them the first time if they're fun and relatively easy, so it's largely just a matter of rote memorization.

>>10474494
I've made a few packs of weird custom monsters, and I think my weapon mods are pretty different from the norm. If this sorta thing bothers you, you could always make your own monster pack or weapon set.

>>10475665
>Schism is a metal as fuck, high fantasy Doom, Hexen, and Heretic expansion using Brutal Doom as a base
>using Brutal Doom as a base
Eh...

>>10475665
Does Schism have maps? I thought it was only a gameplay mod.

just started playing doom the pink aliens look cool

>>10475506
Yeah. There's a part of me that kinda wants to replace him, but I'm trying to avoid putting too much extra work on myself.

>>10473701
I will violate the Geneva Convention over and over, and the Red Cross can do nothing at all but cry their little tears.

>>10475729
THEY'RE NOT ALIENS THEY ARE DEMONS

>>10475729
gnooo
not ALIENS
DAEMONS

>>10475729
Wait till you meet the adorable floating raspberry.

>>10475735
They're extraterrestrials in the strictest sense.

>>10474621
Stop having your goddamn fucking period, Jesus Christ.

If the lack of ambitious TCs bugs you, either start paying fucking attention, or be the change you want to see and make your own TC with blackjack and hookers.
Maybe you'll see that TCs are a minority of projects because they're a shitload of work and take a lot of time, because you're apparently under the impression that people used to knock out shit like Aliens TC or Hacx in a single month.

>>10475773
The guy's post puts into perspective how good we have at as Doomfags if people have an -expectation- for there to be not one, but multiple TCs released every year.

>>10474784
Holy fuck, I love this insult, I'm tucking that away in my brain for some future day.

>>10474873
Probably because they play like molasses running uphill in winter. Thief isn't a fast paced action game, but it flows and plays very smoothly compared to those, which I think is an important metric.

>>10474926
Only if you wanted to make sure that transitions between levels were seamless, which they don't need to be, teleports are a thing.

Is there a way to get Fiends in QSS and Ironwail to interpolate better during their jump attack? They always kind of lag accross the screen.

>>10475714
Not a fan of BD either, but it plays well enough for what it sets out to do.
>>10475718
No, but I've been playing through some mapsets like Memento Mori II with it and it works surprisingly well

>>10475840
I think that guy was asking for TCs and games that have their own maps and whatnot. Not necessarily gameplay mods.

>>10475817
Maybe a hub structure would work.

>>10475459
GGs and thanks for joining. Next time well play not so crusty 1995 maps
>>10475453
>beoynd reality
based.
What source port you are using?

>>10475883
>beyond reality
it's really fun.
just using GZ

>>10474873
>>10471503 >etc
implying they're not

>>10475651
birds look like cacos

Best PS1 doom and final doom mod?
Is there any new stuff made for PS1?

>>10471504
Amaze Base, a melee-oriented singleplayer-map for Quake 2 Remastered is here.
It will not be as fun as the N64 Map Jam which I am so fucking sad I didn't get to be a part of.
"Kill me, now."
In any case, you can load it down from here:
https://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/maps/abase.zip

This game should be awesome but it sucks...why

>>10475974
Annoying enemies that have way too much HP.

>>10475974
Durable enemies, a lack of hitscanners, lack of textures the maps themselves, most enemies don't pose that much of a threat, Iron Liches fucking SUCK.
Cool as fuck art and aesthetics though, Raven makes cool gothic shit.

>>10471819
What does the HD texture say?

>>10473690
If they're gonna update the HD pack, use the actual PS2 models, not that Gamebanana mod. It's too HD for the PS2.

>>10474926
>>10475817
Project Quantum Leap was like this, every map is its own thing and you teleport to the next at the end. There's also TWHL Tower 1 & 2, but I haven't played those.
>>10475861
That seems like a better approach, since the participants would all know what map to link to and from, while the lead only has to maintain one map.

>captcha: WARNMV
Warn me if Volatile Resonance ever takes off

Does anyone play wads with freedoom?

>>10473782
they did it for HL Source at some point and I think they caught some flak for it

>>10475817
>>10475861
This would be worth doing, even if it's just like two or three anons noodling away at like three small levels total for maybe a year.

>>10476021
Lol no

>>10474148
Yes times 100.
>>10475117
There's BSMOD for the episodes, or you could try Half-Life 2 MMOD. It's not quite the same thing, but it spruces up the old girl.

>>10476021
Sometimes.

>>10475964
Fun start so far and looks great

>>10476076
I hope it will be worth the playthrough.

>>10473057
can't tell if this looks any good. lower res but the HUD looks nicer
couldn't find a way to get the HUD like this in a higher resolution without the green marble texture to the sides
also means my screenshots look worse since they're tiny, pic related

>>10476091
Why not simply increase the resolution?
Under hud options, there should be an option for hud scaling and I think screen size is in there too, mess with those.

>>10476010
>Volatile Resonance
>takes places during Resonance Cascade
>play as Gus (or a similar character)
>use Blue-Shift handed weapons with the sleeves recolored to match Gus's jumpsuit
>when shit goes down, he doesn't yet have his "suit" and needs to rush to his personal locker to get it (maybe like a 3 minute segment of dodging crabs and bullsquids)
>his HEV suit equivalent is a drinking helmet which takes a pair of bottles of malt liquor (which also serve as his battery pickups)
>can occasionally find a battery or HEV charging station but he has no fucking idea what they're for, maybe hotwire a station to a door to open it
>instead of HEV charging stations you have little brush beer kegs with taps which you drink directly from until they're empty
>instead of the MAJOR FRACTURE DETECTED messages from the suit, just have various cartoonish screams and yells
>everything else is just stock Half-Life
>maybe three levels in total, not counting a central hub, which is basically just a small lab with a couple of teleporters, and a short intro level for finding the suit
How doable is this?

>>10476083
Hell yeah it was, what a treat!

>>10476101
ah got it now, looks good enough for me

>>10476154
If you're using a recent version of GZDoom, there should also be some included optional widescreen assets.
Personally I prefer the official ones from the Unity port, but these have some advantages, like support for ultrawide

>>10476118
Pretty sure you could make it without any code changes:
>replace models where needed
>replace HEV charging sound with a looping *gulp*
>use monster_furniture to have non-functional HEV batteries around (make a duplicate of the original model since w_battery.mdl is now a bottle)
>replace HEV sentences in sound/sentences.txt to use the new pain sounds

I wouldn't call it Volatile Resonance though, that's supposed to be the name of our eventual Violent Rumble equivalent for Half-Life

>>10476118
>>10476184
I would call it "day of the hangovr"

>>10474873
because if you put all those that qualify, the OP would be 2 meters long

Looking for eternity maps and gameplay mods, any recommendations?

>>10476314
Heartland is the obvious one.

Deimos Lab was fucking ludo, favorite map so far. took me 20 minutes which feels like forever, but got 80% of the secrets
a little ugly at times but I heard that's what Petersen levels are known for, whereas Romero's are a bit prettier. this has a bit of a schizo aesthetic in some areas though, which was pretty cool

>>10476349
>little ugly at times but I heard that's what Petersen levels are known for,

yup, mr petersen couldnt give a shit about texture alignment in some levels, but he makes it up in abstract fun.

>>10476118
Instead of the flatlining sound of the HEV suit, it's a protracted sound of someone vomiting repeatedly.

>>10476314
Heartland is the only one I know of. There's almost nothing else for Eternity.

>>10476314
I only know one other example because I played it in Compendium, Caverns of Darkness is from the turn of the century and is for Eternity, the SMMU fork no less
It's extremely detailed for the time with lots of stacked transparent midtextures to make "3D" metal structures. Shine a modded flashlight at them at your own peril

>>10476349
>this has a bit of a schizo aesthetic in some areas though
why you don't have a screaming trapped merged souls gliding gallery at home?
mph... plebs...

are there many survival type wads?
whether it's hunkering down in a base or running all over the map with the intent of surviving as long as possible, I find that kinda thing fun. similar to RE mercenaries mode or TimeSplitters 2 zombie waves
I'm a newfag to wads and Doom in general

>>10476354
Sandy had like twenty other maps to make.

I kinda feel sorry for him with that, he was always on crunch mode.

Doom II soundtrack > Doom(1) soundtrack

I've been studying some of the early EverQuest zones and I'm like 90% sure these were developed in Worldcraft/Hammer or some in-house equivalent. I haven't been able to find any dev statements about it, but these zones were definitely modeled with a brush-based system which I don't think 3D Studio supported unless they had some custom plugin for it.

>>10476520
I made one back in 2019 but it was kinda suckish.

Took me a bit to get this feeling right, but I think this is pretty good.

>>10476610
the alpha definitely had a budget quake look

>>10476636
Now that's excellent. Total improvement. You've still got it Kegan. I've told you this before years ago, but GMOTA 1.4 made my summer the year it came out or might have been the summer after. Ran through Doom 1 and 2 with it dozens of times, and I had to actively stop playing it because it would get in the way of things I'd need to do. Keep on keeping on man.

>>10476656
Well, hopefully you enjoy 2.0 as much as you did back then. I know some people have had mixed feelings on 1.5.2, and I aim to fix that shit.

>>10476636
That looks real mean.

>>10476662
Good luck man. Also 1.5.2 was randomly featured on some Russian gaming website, neat.
https://small-games.info/?go=game&c=4&i=30545
Though it's primarily just a summary of what it is rather than any kind of review.

>>10476636

>>10475679
>I'm sorry lads... I had to turn on ambient occlusion in REKKR... It's too ugly...
how dare u

>>10475735
I read the book. They're aliens.

>>10476829
>the book
lol lmao even
play SIGIL

>>10474627
If you go through the effort of making a TC. If you replace everything but the engine, it's not a mod at that point. It's a new game.

Why shouldn't you charge for it? So long as you're not charging a ridiculous amount and you offer a shareware style free episode or something. I think it's great that modders now have a way to monetise their talents.

I mean, plenty of people have made games using the source engine and sold it, what's the difference?

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT
GODDAMN SHIT
FUCK

You know what I'm going to goddamn do on Sunday? This coming holy day? I'm going to play Doom. Not Doom 2, not any kind of mapset or mod like I often do, just regular old original Doom, and with like Woof or something.
I'm not even going to cook any food on Sunday, I'm gonna cook big pot of chili in preparation and freeze in portions for Sunday. That way, this Sunday, the 30th anniversary of this blessed masterpiece, is going to be just Classic Dooming and savory, flavorful, spicy chili, with a side of crunchy nachos.

Breakfast, lunch, and dinner, they're all gonna be Doom and chili.

What is the intended use for aerosol can in Blood? I just started E2 and it's seems to serve the same purpose as the flare gun, only having shorter range. Does it have any niche or is it purely for resource management?

>>10477169
I use it for small enemies like spiders because you can spray it all over

>>10477110
By the way, a good chili should use beef stock/beef bullion cubes and lots of fresh garlic. Using beans, you should make sure they get to boil, soften, and soak in flavor real good, you want them T E N D E R.

>>10477195
It's good for those little fuckers, yeah, also the hands. It's been a while since I actually played Blood, but I recall they were fairly handy for the fat butcher zombies too.

>>10476636
I had doubts when you were showing this off in slow motion, but no. This is the absolute.

>>10475974
kind of ugly, boring levels and enemies

>>10477169
very efficient with picrel and zombies. don't forget that weapons have secondary fire. this one is very useful on crowds when exploding

>>10477205
The secondary fire for the aerosol is a visual treat.

>>10477195
oh yeah, didn't think about that, so far I managed to kill off spiders and rats with shotgun, but the can probably has better spread.

>>10477169
Bloated butchers and zombies go down pretty quick with it. It's also good for the gargoyles. I also like to use it for large groups of enemies who do melee damage.

All of the weapons in blood are really useful and powerful. Even the flare gun with its alt fire shooting 8 flares at once, its also good for picking off cultists when you're low on ammo for other guns.

>>10477205
Wouldn't it be better to two tap these JOIN ARSE fatsos with flare gun or throw a remote detonator dynamite at them?

>>10476636
Looks great man

>>10474494
As someone who is now spending 5+ years on a single project alone ( Golden Souls 3) and more than a decade on an entire trilogy + Simon's Destiny, GZPT and whatever else didn't not stick the landing for me and got cancelled, I really don't blame people for not wanting to do full TC projects.

Making a 32-level megawad is a LOT of work, making a gameplay mod is a LOT of work, even just making new textures or sprites for the characters (be frankensprited or completely new) is also a LOT of work.

Take these three elements together, that's how you make a TC, understand how hard it is, even if you have a team working with you, coordination is something to take into account, the fact that as a hobby people might not always be up for working on this kinda stuff everyday, things slow down etc.

Sure the HL community has a lot of big projects, but for 2 projects released, there's one hundred big projects started through the years that got cancelled or abandoned over the gargantuan amount of work and dedication they required.

It also makes sense that most of the big Doom projects are basically commercial games, we're going into the next age of Doom "modding" where Gzdoom (or even better, VKDoom ) are fully realized engines that, despite their quirks, can let you make a game from scratch with the right knowledge, it's no wonder that, if someone wants to make something big, they'll probably think of making an actual, commercially viable game rather than just a simple mod.

As for me, I still enjoy doing TCs, but after GS3 i'm either gonna join the commercial game crowd or stop making big projects altogether, for the same reasons i've explained before, it's a lot of work to make a TC and it takes a lot of time, patience, dedication and that has to go on for a long time, maybe possibly even a decade on working on the same thing.

GS3 will be my swan song and i will make sure it will be a good one.

>>10477234
i prefer to keep my flares for cultists, the tendies aren't fast enough to require flares

>>10475964

>>10477260
>Making a 32-level megawad is a LOT of work, making a gameplay mod is a LOT of work, even just making new textures or sprites for the characters (be frankensprited or completely new) is also a LOT of work.
Fucking TELL ME ABOUT IT, man.

It's gonna be worth it, I'll never stop telling myself that, but it's draining me.

>>10477078
I agree with what you said. I should have elaborated. I meant that at TCs are still being made, but now they are commercial games. It's only natural, and actually not even a new thing. HACX at 90s was pretty much a paid TC and I'm glad it exists.

>>10474869
My to-do list for this season, having played none of these, is:
>32in24-14
>DBP07,19, 31, 43, 55
>DBK02
>PUSS IV, XIV, XXIII
>100-Line Christmas
>Winter in the City
>Whitemare 1 + 2

>>10476184
This. It would be easy-peasy. But it should be env_sprite instead monster_furniture since it's useless.

>>10477337
Oh sorry haha, I got the impression that you didn't like that they were selling TCs. I thought you were saying the HL community is better because they release more TCs as free mods and some people don't like the idea of modders charging for their work, which I somewhat understand because that's how its been for the majority of cases and having free games essentially is a rarer thing these days. It's something I'd like to do myself too one day so maybe I got preemptively defensive about it too haha.

>>10477521
Nah, I was arguing with the HL community guy. I do love HL and it's mods too, but I think that TC situation on Doom is more than fine and weird thing to complain about. Ashes and REKKR were very high quality for free TCs. I would have gladly paid for Ashes (and I did pay for Sunken Land).

>>10476636
I feel nothing wrong in saying: sexy.

So why is episode 2 of DOOM 1 a meme?
I think it's just as good as episode 1, but it definitely doesn't have that intense build up atmosphere that E1 has.

Now I kind of feel I should continue working on Judge Doom, but before I can continue mapping I have to overhaul the enemies

>>10476636
>getting this and the updated Ad Mortem supershotty
I’m eatin’ good on awesome SSGs.
>>10477551
Venturous came out recently too, an Indiana Jones-like TC.
Trying my absolute hardest to sympathize with the other “why not as many Doom TCs reeeeee” anon and I don’t think I can.

>>10477796
Shareware episodes are always the most polished. They are there to sell the game after all.

That being said I absolutely loved the shit out of all 4 episodes when I played them as a kid. People often forget that the original episodes were made on 1993 (and 1995), and they were more than great back then. Doom 2's city maps were cool, Master Levels was a great expansion and Evilution was amazing wad. Now we've been spoiled with so much high quality wads that original content seems bleak in comparison.

How do you make Witchaven 2 greater than it already is?

>>10476669
>small-games
damn, i used to pirate minecraft from there back in like 2011. got into doom after stumbling upon a brutal fork while scrolling it in 2014.

>>10477260
>but after GS3 i'm either gonna join the commercial game crowd or stop making big projects altogether,
NGL, I'd love to see you take something like The Crimson Deed and run with it as a commercial thing, I thought the demo of it was pretty fucking great.

>>10475506
All I want is to obtain a full rip of that one BileDemon's "living bouncy projectile" attack sprite gfx and sounds to get them turned into a LostSoul replacement just for the annoying noises they make.
>>10475651
Joe-Ilya?

Hello my friends. I hope you are well. I hope you can help me.

So basically I like half life one, and I quite like quake but don't really play it. However I am looking for some comfy Christmas maps or mods for both. Would love to play some for that comfy Christmas vibe. Even some comfy 1.6 xmas_ maps but they are hard to find on live servers. Anyway lads I would love some help and recommendations. I can't play custom maps on quake because I am too retard but I hope to try again. Beat thing would be some half life one SP mods/maps that are festive.

Can Doom, Duke3D, and Blood do hub worlds like Quake?

>>10478223
Xmas Jams for quake.

>>10477472
Wouldn't env_sprite and monster_furniture do the same thing? Neither can be interacted with directly, if I remember right.
...Thinking about it though, env_sprite makes it easier to fake the battery getting picked up. Imagine Gus grabs the thing and goes "huuuhhh?" when it does nothing. Unless it's a key item he needs to power up his forklift or something.

>>10478410
Gzdoom can. Althought technically you could probably make a hub for all maps of the project by wanking around with umapinfo. Changing the hub in anyway after beating some maps would not be possible.

>>10478432
umapinfo only supports 2 kinds of exit.

>>10478223
Here's a short lil' Half-Life Christmas massacre.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/bloody-christmas

>>10478413
Yeah they look alright. I'll have to sort out the iornwail
>>10478458
This looks comfy. Thank you

>>10477804
Glad to hear from you again Judge Doom anon, we thought you were dead.

Serious question.
Why does DOOM feel more "adrenalinic" than QUAKE?
Is it because in Doom is 1 vs many, while in Quake a lot of the enemies can be considered bullet sponges, effectively? Is it because the weapons in Quake don't feel as good as in Doom? (Shotguns can't really be compared at all.)
I always find myself going back to Doom, but I would love more options, a mix between the two games (I believe sprites are also one of the reasons) would be godlike.
What do you think?
I enjoy both games, don't get me wrong, but Doom has SOMETHING that Quake doesn't, and I can't quite put my finger on what that is

>>10478416
Yes, but the thing is furniture bleeds green.
And BTW, here's some rough prototype with the beer helmet H.E.V. replacement, green hands and stylish green HUD.

How much hud is too much hud?

>>10475729
Why was original Doom so much more aesthetically pleasing than Doom 2?

>>10478736
>no doomguy's face
Might as well play Overwatch at this point.

>>10478736
It's nice to know how much health, armour and ammo I have. Everything else is pointless.

>>10478745
There's only so much they could do with the graphics and maps at the time. Most of the good ideas they had went into the original and not much was left for the sequel.

>>10475651
looks like cthon from quake

>>10478736
I haven't seen a GZDoom mod with a more obstructive or unintuitive hud than Zandronum on default settings

>>10465214
hey that's ishtar from akkado-moabite mythology

Is there any big reason to play GoldenSouls 1 v1.4 instead of the Remastered version?

>>10478685
Good stuff, keep 'em coming!

>>10477804
Heeey, you're alive!

>>10476520
I haven't seen a singleplayer mod that fills whatever level you want with endless enemies, but there are a few Zandronum mods that center around that kind of concept, like Complex Invasion and Stronghold.

>>10478945
all we need now is turok anon

>>10478575
Having cannon fodder that folds like paper along with stronger, slower shotguns is definitely part of it. I'd also throw in:

-Sprite-based enemies can be packed tightly together instead of worrying about 3D collision boxes, allowing for more enemies in a space
-Sectors allowing for larger, performance-friendly areas compared to brushes, and works with the above reason
-Faster movement on average allowing for quick traversal of these areas, effortlessly augmented by straferunning on the fly so the player can weave around for whatever reason. Compare this to bhopping and rocket jumping, which either requires buildup or gives so much immediate speed that it's more used for escaping and speedrunning
-More diverse range of health pools, so the player has dramatic fights where fodder gets mowed down quickly with the elites still standing and fighting back

I don't think Quake's idea of having fewer enemies is inherently bad, but the enemies don't really play into it that well. And when I see level makers try doing bigger battles or slaughtermaps, it's usually giving the player a quad and having them spray nails at a group of baddies who are more busy bumping into each other.

>>10479161
thanks for your input.

how the FUCK are you supposed to know that hitting this random ass pile of bones is required to open all the damn doors on the map. i`m actually trying to like this game, but fucking christ is it hard to do by the end of it.

>>10479357
That random ass pile of bones is on a pressure plate. Before you step on it, it was very visible that it was a pressure plate and something would happen if you were to step on it.

>>10477326
I’m working on a megawad as well right now.

My process is:
>sketch out the maps on grid paper (pick out music simultaneously)
>Make in Doom Builder
>Apply custom textures where needed (this is gonna be alot for my project)
-Playtest and release

I can make a complete map sketch in about 5 hours. (Maps should only be about 10 mins on average to complete)

Texture art, I have no how long that will take.

Playtesting is going to have to be concurrent with map building. I’m very reluctant to rely on community playtesters.

This is all made worse by how I want there to be a legit narrative focus on my megawad (while still being mostly vanilla).

Its going to take about a year before I think I can present a beta version.

The work is fucking immense when you pile it on top of real life considerations. But this fucking game caught my soul, so its gonna be worth it.

>>10479448
And I'm another anon who sporadically posts here and you know me as the "muh megawad" guy and I'm currently on Map 20 of 30 and I've been at it for 2 years now, each map took me months to make and it took extremely long to even find a good name for the whole thing. I do not share my files until it's 100% finished ... too many false friends in the Doom community.

Anyone got a playthrough of Huh mod for Quake? I wanna see where some secrets I couldn't figure out were.

>>10479641
Share it with me. I'll be your buddy. My name is Anon, and you can use the file sharing site "catbox" to upload to thanks.

>>10479686
Sent :^)

>>10478575
Quake had to be more "hardware considerate" when Doom 2 was more of the opposite: Any "doom is hard to run" concerns were met with larger maps and enemy counts in the sequel.
Custom Quake mods/maps can overcome this "small and beefy roster" issue but at that point it's fair to compare it to Doom with modern mods. Much of what it arguably "has over Doom" (weapon balancing, switch speed, full aim shooting, movement mechanics) can be emulated and improved.

Doom wins for me but Quake isn't far behind. For what it's worth I find that Doom and both Quakes are better with their enemy and weapon rosters than the Build games, and I like all those too.

>>10479725
I never really bothered much with build games. How the enemy roster on those? The weapons seem very creative and interesting but I don't know how well that translates into them being actually fun to use.

>>10479715
thx bb
Where in this dolphin porn folder is it tho...

>>10479740
There's a cool cast in Duke Nukem 3D but I still find it the easiest build game. I also don't enjoy the spider mastermind much and battlelords feel like a worse version of them.
Blood, though my favorite, places all emphasis of difficulty on the hitscanny cultists. The expansions improve upon this by adding enemies that throw dynamite and enemies that shoot tesla, but these are also cultists.
Shadow Warrior has an enemy roster that feels the most varied in gameplay, most challenging, but like Blood most of it comes from a bunch of ninjas in different pants colors. The most dangerous (the shadow ninja) shows why it's a great idea that something as damaging as the cyberdemon is as big as it is and makes an aggro sound that's audible anywhere in the map.

>>10479795
What mod?

>>10479805
The amazingly based gameplay mod is Babel https://datanon.itch.io/babel
The level is from Doomer Board Project 47 https://doomwiki.org/wiki/DBP47:_Dreamcatcher_Apparatus

>>10479820
There are a lot of wads in that folder, without explanation on the forum post. What do they do?
Also what does babel add?

>>10479846
TL;DR Babel is vanilla+ with monsters being more aggressive and being able to synchronize attacks and shit. They also be struck with fear if nearby buddies get gibbed.
Weapons are generally faster and punchier, and you can choose between three different starting weapons:
>Pistol: Shoots slow, hits hard
>SMG: Shoots fast and is generally a balanced choice
>Plasma SMG: Self recharging rapid fire energy gun, good for whipping out, spamming it, and then switching to another weapon

>>10479357
>>10479369
gonna complain more.
apparently you can inform captain dura about the cultists before opening that one gate in paradise lost. is there a specific time frame for doing it or something? mashing E on her after fetching the wheel does nothing.
am i just too retarded for this god forsaken game? why do its endgame puzzles work like obscure secrets?

>>10480085
Er... what cultist?

>>10480091
this lot

>>10480104
Oh, those.
Have you met the red primarch at the bottom of salt and blood?

>>10480109
yea i fucked that nigga up

>>10480113
Not the giant pit lord, the primarch that asks you to betray someone?

>>10480118
oh right right yeah, i talked to the pit lord behind the force field afterwards as well

>>10480123
So, he's the blind nigga you're gonna betray. Be nice to him. Then murder every demon.

>>10480129
went ahead and meticulously killed every mook before turning up to the camp gates. gobling girl is still dead and the depleted amulet is still on the ground.

>>10480143
The amulet you used to escape the primarch's vault? What does that have to do with the betrayal?

>>10480148
the depleted armor amulet that you find after the cultist attack.

>>10480157
The bear warrior's depleted amulet? You you're not a good demon killer, anon...
Well, you got your betrayal, go offer that to the primarch, I guess.

>>10480162
damn. so this here tip is just bullshit then?

>>10480167
You lead the cultists there, didn't ya?

>>10480167
Listen to the NPCs when they tell you to do things straight away.

>>10480181
>>10480170
>time-sensitive mechanics in an exploration-heavy game
that fucking sucks man. thanks though.

just played through a bit of E2M6: Halls of the Damned
this map fucking blows. the darkness gimmick is getting old and it's never very fun, but once I got that over with I returned with my red and blue key to the start, then I need a yellow one too
really can't be bothered with this shit. tempted to just start playing wads

>>10480203
It's not time sensitive, it's more like order sensitive.

>>10480212
guess so, i`ll keep seething anyway. gonna try to printinv and give myself the demon noggin and hope it doesn`t fuck up the game too much

>>10480224
You're gonna have to get rid of the amulet too if you're going that route, I don't know which one gets priority.

>>10480204
It's all downhill in Shores of Hell. Just move on.

>>10480227
i just f9ed to before the raid, finally moving on with relatively clear conscience

>>10480254
Good. Don't kill your orc sisters, they're cute.

why the fuck am I running out of ammo in Blood? had to keep resorting to the pitchfork
got to a train station terminal and some faggot cultists had the drop on me, was trying to stab them like a retard to no avail, then a black robed one blasted me
is the game just scarce on ammo and hard as hell?

>>10478685
Fuck me, he actually did it.
I'll see about digging up some sounds.

>>10480307
Make it a habit to open damn near every fight with explosives.

>>10480259
if i got`s to repeatedly poke anons and abuse the console, you gotta do what you gotta do

>>10480307
Are you "pitchfork starting" like a pro doomer? Don't do that even though it's been done by pagb and the videos are insane to watch still don't. There are literally levels that have flares but no flare gun
Episode 1 is ammo scarce, look for secrets, lots of them let you attack enemies from behind or get a major powerup. Also maybe swallow your pride and move the difficulty from Well Done to Lightly Broiled because Blood gives enemies some 30% more HP on hard in addition to more spawns

>>10480307
E1 is really fucking stingy with its ammo.

>>10480334
been playing on Lightly Broiled, still getting my ass raped
was doing okay last run, got to the 2nd level, cultists were gunning down some civilians, shot the faggots up and then a cultist spawned behind and hitscanned me
the fucking cultists being hitscan is such a fucking pain. this game is hard as hell but fun

>>10480204
I do not care for E2, either.
E3 picks up a bit. I honestly think Slough of Despair is a good map, and I like plenty of Sandy's Doom 2 maps. But Shores of Hell is fuckin' rough.

Was mapping for VR2 when I just realized the rationale behind Keep splitting lava nailguns and nailguns into four different weapons: A mapper may want to give the player a super nailgun withour lava nails and a regular nailgun with. Funny how annoying I found this when playing Mjolnir.

>>10480465
>Funny how annoying I found this when playing Mjolnir.
To be specific, it wouldn't be annoying to have a regular sng and a lava nailgun. I just thought it was annoying that the weapons were split at all.

>>10480307
Always pitchfork zombies unless you're really stocked on ammo and you keep seeing ammo pickups you can't use, use flares for cultists when you're low on ammo, use dynamite when there's a large enough crowd to really make use of it.

I just played the game for the first time on well done and was very rarely low on ammo after doing all that.

>>10480204
yeah e2 sucks, e1 and e3 are great but i always skip e2

>>10480395
Do you know about crouching to throw off cultists' aim? And strafing to rotate their sprites so they stop shooting at you?

>>10480552
yeah, think I saw some rapid crouching in a gif or something so I kinda learned it from that
does crouching to take cover behind stuff disrupt their aim as well? if it's a row of seats like in the church for example

After I installed Aftershock for Ion Fury I can no longer launch the game with software rendering instead of OpenGL (it actually just lists the resolution in the launcher after that). Is there a way to change that? I always got weird issues with OpenGL in the base game (and get even more problems now). I'm hoping that I can resolve these issues if I can choose software rendering.

>>10480581
in-game you can do setrendermode 0 in console (shift+tilde)

>>10480606
Will it save that setting? Or do I have to keep doing this every time I launch the game?

>>10480613
well, it saves it for me, but the resolution choice in the launcher shows up empty.
you can always set the config to read-only (in %appdata% on windows)

>>10480461
I always liked E2 but I bet I just have poor taste. It’s darker and more sinister feeling than E1, like the game is actually starting to try to kill you at that point.

>>10480623
This sounds too fucking complicated for me lol.

>>10480204
I did a casual run earlier, and did a UV max and beat it in like 14 minutes. I thought it was a fun map and I didn't really get lost until the end where I got confused about the fake-out ending since I wanted all the kills.
Maybe I'm partial to maps that allow me to punch the fuck out of things like pinkies and barrons.

>>10480640
I just like the progression from tech to hell that E2 has going for it.

>>10480642
just ignore it then.
basically: it should get saved, unless you mess with display menu in-game or pick another resolution in the launcher, in which case you might need to type it again.

>>10480204
Shit taste, this is one of the best maps in the game. My first time playing it was in VR, was terrifying.

>>10480640
Don't doubt yourself so much! It's perfectly valid to like E2. One of my online Doom friends swears by E2. I think I just get annoyed pistol starting it, since from what I recall there's a lot of pistoling Pinkies, and there are a lot optional/side areas like in Romero's maps.
But E2M8 is still one of my favorite maps in Doom 1, so it's not like the episode is irredeemable or anything.
And you're right about the sinister feeling. I dunno' if it's the aesthetic or the gameplay, but it definitely feels like Hell, rather than just being Hell as told to the player.

>>10478745
Doom 1 is more varied in color and has cool use of lighting.
2 is more monotonous.

what's some Douq 3D content that's mostly urban environments lads?
i need me some big city maps in me veins

>>10480329
I never had those problems when playing, anon. I would forget the way around some maps the first time around, but still I knew what to do where I needed to go.

If I make a popular megawad, will I be invited to the cool kidz club on troonworld? Would be my best chance to destroy that shithole from the inside.

>>10478685
>>10480313
>>10476118
I can't really do any kind of modding for GoldSrc, but I gathered a few sound effects (mainly a few old Mel Blanc soundbytes, and some stock sounds I stole from a commercial stock sound website without paying). I tried to match the GLUGLUGLUG noise to the length of the HEV charger's sound, it's maybe a little exaggerated sounding, but considering that you'd be literally putting your mouth to the tap and then draining an entire beer keg in a matter of seconds, it feels fitting.

https://files.catbox.moe/kfjxue.zip
Maybe someone knows how to apply them.

>>10480828
This is mainly it IMO, Doom 2 used a lot more brown and tan textures in its levels than the first game did, which together with two sky textures which are pretty brown themselves, makes for a bit of visual monotony. This gets somewhat better with the hell levels, but there's quite a lot of brown and tan still.

I think just replacing the sky textures and then maybe swapping out some textures in some levels would do quite a lot for the feel of the game.

>>10480204
E2 is like the best part, and E2M6 is one of the best levels in the first game.

>>10480982
Nice! Gonna implement right now!

>>10480560
>does crouching to take cover behind stuff disrupt their aim as well? if it's a row of seats like in the church for example
It does. Also, learn how to dynamite, it's very important that you do, especially for Well Done if you feel like giving it a shot again. Another thing that may help is making the most out of Invisibility and Shot Reflection powerups whenever you encounter them. Best of luck with trying to beat the game, anon. It's pretty tough but getting through hard sections is pretty satisfying.

>>10480552
>strafing to rotate their sprites so they stop shooting
woah, is this legit?

>>10481017
The new enemies from 2 stick with the “brown” theme as well. None of them are as colorful as a caco or even a pinky. Arachnotrons are probably the most colorful new enemies with those blue eyes and bright green plasma streams.
>>10481159
Every enemy in Blood has a turn speed you can abuse, and they won’t attack until they’re facing you nearly perfectly. They’re also not smart enough to stay still while turning.

>>10480828
>2 is more monotonous.
You can really see the seeds of what became Quake's texture choices.

>>10481194
Q1 levels have a fair amount of blue and green hues, it’s just all realistically desaturated and there’s not much color on the enemies besides blood splatters.