/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10470757
I'm glad I could just enjoy it for what it was, wasn't a forum dweller yet so had no idea people were upset about it

>>10470757
Looks like Xbox 360 desu

>>10470768
Kameo looks worse

>>10470757
Would've been cool if it was allowed to be its own thing. It could have been a good, self-contained adventure game instead of a bad Star Fox game.

>>10472346
>Would've been cool if it was allowed to be its own thing
It was going to be until Miyamoto practically forced them to turn it into a Star Fox game

>>10472436
Based Shiggy. The SF characters are 80% of the game's charm and it has peak Fox. Not his fault autistic tendies don't understand what spin-offs are

>>10472346
>Would've been cool if it was allowed to be its own thing.
Yeah like abominable shit. Would be much better

>>10470759
Same here.
SFA si a fantastic adventure game and one of the best looking 6th gen games

>>10470757
It drags on too much desu. I played it for several hours and never even got to that beach level I saw in screenshots

>>10472984
I loved it back then but replaying it my major complaint is that there's just too much uninteresting backtracking. Now don't get me wrong, I love tons of games which have some form of backtracking, it's just that SFA doesn't do it very well.
On the technical side though the game is incredible. The fact that it runs at 60 FPS while looking this great is still impressive

It alright. It's very frontloaded with the good stuff, and the quality drops off past a certain point.
Honestly don't know why people dislike it so much, apart from "not Stafox", which no shit it isn't. We knew at the time, it literally was not Starfox. Dinosaur Planet was an announced and publicised N64 game, prior to the rebrand.

>>10473040
Yeah, the gameplay is so-so overall, but it’s easily one of the GameCube’s best looking games and one of the best looking sixth gen games overall.

You can also add this to the long list of supposedly "bad" 6th gen games that still are way better than Ico, along with PS2 Castlevania and Prince of Persia: Warrior Within.

>>10472457
haha a stretched-out Glenn Plant screenshot, that brings me back
dude's a good basic video reference for numerous games on this console but man did my aspect ratio-fixing browser plugin get a workout with his stuff

>>10473182
Agreed. Games like SFA and Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy borrow heavily from the 3D Zelda formula, but that’s not really a bad thing.

>>10473185
Yeah, I don't know how you take time to write a script and everything for a video but don't even notice the aspect ratio

6th gen was so good for action adventures

>>10473213
Sure. People were pretty spoiled for choice. Beyond Good and Evil basically bombed. That game's great.

>>10474673
>Beyond Good and Evil basically bombed. That game's great.
I can't trust Ubisoft enough to clock hours into it

>>10473187
Haven't played too much 3D Zelda, are they really filled with fetch quests, backtracking and easy puzzles like this game?

>>10475058
Uhh, not really the fetch quest thing is minor in most 3d Zelda’s an majoras mask has more backtracking than resident evil, not others not so much

>>10475058
The earlier 3D Zelda games do feature quite a few block-pushing puzzles.

>>10475087
There's like maybe one per dungeon

>>10470757
Better than Zeldor

>>10472436
Chad

>>10475020
You're a moron then.

>>10473185
>aspect ratio-fixing browser plugin
name?

>>10473185
>Glenn Plant
also, he is so fucking bad at playing, I mean, you have a videogame channel, how hard is to at least try?

>>10472457
that's a great game, I would call it a hidden gem if it weren't made by rare

>>10476453
Didn't ask

>>10470757
>sh*t
I hate zoomers so much it's unreal.
Absolute niggercattle.

>>10477916
I’m hoping so hard that there’s a massive backlash amongst the next generation against the anime culture and ghetto twitter speak that zoomers are obsessed with.

>>10470757
>Pathetic.

>>10478174
God, me too.

>>10472436
based

>>10470757
is this No Mans Sky

>>10470757
wasn't this debunked?

>>10470757
It's bland with multiple annoying sections. I'd say it's the epitomy of a 6/10 game. I do love that first area, though, and the water effects were nice.

Playing this for the first time since 2002.
Holy fuck, it does hold up. I'm too used to uglier 6th gen games.

>>10472457
Juno's design is great, though. It's just the girl character who looks like a lazy western parody of anime schoolgirls that sucks.

>>10482160
Vela's great.
BTW, Juno's helmet was inspired by Gatchaman.

>>10482160
>girl character who looks like a lazy western parody of anime schoolgirls
the worst shit ever

>>10472436
He has always been jealous of others success and sabotaged everything he perceived as stealing his glory. Had this dude not been at Nintendo they wouldn't have been such a cringe company and could have been on the level of Capcom, konami or Sega even.

>>10470759
same, i was just having fun because it was zelda with a staff

>>10483204
>inventing schizo stories again
The reason Nintendo does that thing where they attach an old IP to a new project, is because it makes it sell better.
If something looks like it basically could be a Starfox spinoff, may as well be a Starfox spinoff. It makes sense in a cynical business way.

>>10472436
it would have unironically been worse without Starfox characters, the game is boring as fuck and shit and the only reason I even bought it was because it was a Starfox game

>>10470768
shit no, it looks like upscaled Dreamcast at best.

>>10483216
n-noooo but, what about all these western-published stories about miyamoto being mean to Rare??? nooooo don't change my perception of realityyyy

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>>10484443
Is this a beta build? That IU looks all wrong.

>>10484457
kek

>>10470768
IKR?
Think they'd save the GCN if Nintendo let Rare have publisher rights or stop cancelling Retro's big projects.

>>10472436
>five replies
How autistic are Miyamoto fags? Even Sakurai simps are willing to listen to an inch of criticism nowadays.

>>10483216
Star Fox 64's success and the cancelation of SF2 unironicly cursed the franchise.

>>10485740
It's not about whether or not I like Miyamoto. It's about you flat out making things up.

>>10485740
>people replying means they didn't read the post
>NOOO you must hate the fact that SFA has Star Fox characters instead of ugly Rare OGs
Unironically meds and I usually don't say this

>>10482214
kino

>>10476467
sounded like he never finished Jet Force Gemini despite owning it back when it was first released. Love hearing his reviews though.

>>10470757
>sh*t
Holy SHIT, grow up.

>>10470757
>we have xwings at home

>>10470757
I always thought the arwing model/textures were really nice. You can tell someone worked their ass off on it. Reminds me of the old x-wings from the early star wars movies.

>>10470757
>ultimate furfag game
>not shit
end yourself.

>>10470768
That's an emulator screenshot, but on real hardware I still think it's one of the best looking games on the system. What's even more impressive is that it came out early in the Gamecube's life.

>>10488035
You can be fur and straight, retard

>>10490061
bizzaro world moment

>>10484424
>>10484457
Stay chudded.

>>10492016
can i get into sonic and sega as a chud or is it just too degenerate and consumerist pilled?

>>10492072
Adventure will always wait for you.

>>10475020
>the zoomer doesn't know ubisoft wasn't always like it is today

>>10488627
SFA on GCN and CRT looks great. High-res graphics and textures look strange due to some of the limitations of the time. Look at the trees in the upper left and the flowers at the forefront for an example of what I mean. It also makes it obvious that the mountains are just "paper".

>>10492916
I agree, a CRT is the best way to experience it. Forgot to mention that in my prior comment.

>>10492893
nah you're wrong. ubisoft was always the way it was
literally everything ubisoft makes feels that way
like its a french assembly line for toys created by people who dislike children

>>10472436
Gettin kinda tired of this claim. It was the other way around. It was Rare's idea to use Star Fox and shiggy went along with it

>>10495268
It's all rumours, but I've never head that Rare suggested it. If you have a better source saying it was Rare who suggested it, post it

>>10495268
There is an entire Reddit dedicated to shitting on Miyamoto and making up retarded fake stories about him. He's one of the most wholesome lads in the world but for some reason he just triggers some people

>>10495415
It's entirely because of Paper Mario.

>>10495415
>He's one of the most wholesome lads in the world
Based on what?

>>10495415
>There is an entire Reddit dedicated to shitting on Miyamoto and making up retarded fake stories about him
why am I not surprised?

>>10470757
It looked nice. End of praise. This was PEAK shitRare. Nuts & Bolts was actually their last good game.

>>10470759
It was covered in gaming magazines prior to release. I remember reading about Dinosaur Planet in Nintendo Power. Rare war advertising it and gave a tentative release date, but then went silent about it for a couple years. Then SFA was announced, and anyone who was into gaming mags noticed Krystal and other similarities between it and Dinosaur Planet, and people were immediately skeptical. Rare did damage control and mostly ignored any public comments about Dinosaur Planet, which was easier to do back then.

>>10496968
SFA had Dark Souls combat before Dark Souls

For decades now random people on the internet tried to convince me that this game that I liked is bad. Still noone convinced me.

SFA si Kino, EOD.

Anyone else notice the similarity between the beginning of this game and Castlevania Legacy of Darkness?

>>10470757
Well earlier parts of it felt pretty good even if it played like a Zelda clone. Shame it starts falling apart after cloudrunner fortress. The last two major dungeons were disappointing.

Am I the only one who was HYPE as fuck during the final fight with Andross? When Falco shows up it was super hype.
>nooo but dinosaur planet! miyamoters bad!
who cares, I didn't know about dinosaur planet back in 2002 and I just enjoyed it, why pretend I didn't once I discovered about Dinosaur Planet?
Also, we now have Dinosaur Planet, so we can enjoy both.

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>>10495341
It's only speculation but it makes sense for Rare management to be worried that their OC exclusive for a dying console was going to be poorly received and latched onto a suggestion that they use Star Fox characters. Naturally there's going to be push back from staff who want their OC, it's their pride and joy after all, but management want money and don't care about your magnum opus.
There was plenty of stories of N64 era development where developers credited Nintendo for some of the design choices. It's only in the acerbic internet era that this has turned into "zOMG Nintendo FORCED devs to change based designs into shitty Nintendo babby shit!11!"

I WANT TO FUCK KRYSTAL

>>10505204
Get in the line faggot

>>10470757
Game has always been underrated. People only hate on it because it wasn't a traditional Star Fox game. Most major points I see are ironically because of it being turned into a Star Fox game last minute like the ending where you don't even fight Scales and Andross comes out of nowhere as well as the tacked on Arwing sections. Game would have been looked at more fondly if it had just stayed as Dinosaur Planet.

>>10470757
Perfect Dark was Rare's swan song.

>>10484457
>SOULFUL overexpression
>>10484450
>boring shit for furfaggots

>>10506543
>Game has always been underrated.
Not at release. I remember buying it in mid 2002 and liking it a lot and the reaction on internet forums I frequented was also good.
I think it wasn't until the mid to late 00s that people started taking the "angry/jaded video game reviewer" stance and shitting on anything, in the case of SFA it was "muh shiggers miyamoters is... LE BAAAAAAD! because it forced, like, Rare, to turn this dinosaur game I never even knew about into a Star Fox game! can you BELIEVE!?"

>>10495415
Because people still think he's responsible for current day Paper Mario being complete shit.

>>10507890
which is so retarded. even IF he's the sole reason they took away npcs special garment, that's hardly nu paper mario's biggest issue. he wasn't responsible for direction or writing

What happened to the dino craze? Why isn't it a zeitgeist anymore?

>>10509613
Jurassic Park sequels sucked ass

>>10511136
3 is no masterpiece like the first movie but a decent flick. For some reason I think people like 2 more. The very first one of the new movies is also decent. All the others are trash, yes

>>10472436
overrated dev desu.

>>10485740
>two replies
a little better, unfortunately it's still laced with unhinged defense over a corporate entity.
Miyamoto fags should find a local ward STAT.

>>10495341
>I've never head that Rare suggested it
They never did, was fake news by Miyamoto shills.

>>10495415
>browsing Reddit
of course retards are eating this up

>>10506673
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>>10488035
But enough about SecondLife brah

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>>10511679
I like Lost World enough, though maybe it's nostalgia, but I really like some of the visuals a lot really, like at the beginning the stegosaur part, pure kino.

>tfw SFA was the last non-handheld soulful rare game

>>10512127
Literally most Sonic games after either SA2 or Heroes.

Was the staff a good weapon? All things considered. I enjoyed it

>>10516098
Sticks are pretty good weapons.