/vr/ - Retro Games

Because those are the only games they can remember.

>>10442235
It's cheap Millennial nostalgia that makes them feel like they own a piece of their childhood. I'd rather spend 4x as much as just have the real thing. These things are cheap shit, but most people don't seem to care.

Because it’s shit people will actually pay for. The number of people who would drop hundreds of dollars on Cannon Dancer or Outfoxies or some shit can be counted on one hand.

Theyre dogshit and boring yeah

But there are plenty of mainstream titles left im sure hell, at least enough left to include in rom dumps if not dedicated cabs i.e. next sf2 cab why not at lrast fucking lut alpha in it -- but do they have no money left for more licenses???

>>10442235
Because that's all the casuals care about.
I think they will get around to a Third Strike cab pretty soon tho.

>>10442651
>why not at lrast fucking lut alpha in it
That's probably coming too but Capcom released collections not too long ago so they want to space it out enough that the collectors will cool off enough that they will be motivated to double dip on buying the same ROM twice.

>>10442493
It’s a fun little thing, relax. I think 500 bucks is too steep for what it is, but it’s a fun little thing, I could imagine families having fun with it.

Btw, a real Simpsons arcade cabinet is almost 10x as much.

>>10442235
Because theyre using an ancient build of mame that has terrible stability

>>10442235
Why tf can't there be convex lcd screens?

>>10442825
>this shit costs $500
Holy fuck, I can't believe that's where arcade prices have gone. That amount used to get you a real cab in decent shape, not just some Walmart tier toy for the kids' playroom.

>>10442825
It’s worth about $150 at the most. $500 is such an insane price for what amount to 2MB of gameplay. I’d understand if it was a light-gun game or an actual pinball machine.

>>10442235
original simpsons arcade had a huge crt screen. the graphics in that game look like ass on an lcd/led, and the cabinet was much larger.

>>10442825
>Btw, a real Simpsons arcade cabinet is almost 10x as much.
yes, if they're in perfect condition but most aren't. the crt tubes in them are notorious for failing and burn-in. finding an original machine with original monitor without faults is extremely rare.

>>10443340
>they are only they expensive if they work

Lol great response anon.

>>10442235
>Never done a Tekken cab
>Never done a SF:A cab
>Never done a KoF cab
>Never done a SFIII cab
>Never done a Soul series cab
>Never done a VF series can
>The only A1up cabs that are really cool are basically ones that have been modded with tons of aftermarket shit
>Still no JPN sit down style one

Yeah… it’s a no for me

>>10442235
Because it makes them money. The only good release they have is of their cocktail cabinets and that's after you gut the thing and add in new controls, feet and hardware for more than 12 games.

>>10442825
You seem to be quite fond of the words 'thing' and 'fun'.

>>10442825
>a real Simpsons arcade cabinet is almost 10x as much
I've tried the game because people are always talking about this "arcade exclusive gem" and I was pretty disappointed. Unless the Simpsons license is a huge deal for you there are much, much better beat em ups, even on console

>>10443634
Yeah, I’m fond of fun things. It would be weird if someone wasn’t.
>>10443635
Until hit and run, it was the ONLY good Simpsons game, and it was a beat ‘em up which is just so far removed from what the show is about. You didn’t make it in the 90s unless you got your own beat ‘em up. There was also no way to play this at home unless you knew about mame, and even then the emulation was subpar until the mid 2000s.
Well, there WERE ports for MSDOS and Commodore 64, the two platforms you wouldn’t want a port on. DOS port looks pretty impressive for an early dos game but has shit hit detection. C64 version is super impressive for what it is but it’s obviously not the same.
I didn’t even know there was a DOS version until recently and I’m an old(er)fag. Seriously not even on the internet did people really talk about it, I’m almost convinced I got transported to a different timeline where it got a DOS port.

I think it’s an amazing beat ‘em up with stellar graphics. It’s criminal this didn’t get a genesis or Super Nintendo port and I think it’s because Acclaim had the license for Simpsons console games, which is why it only got ported to PCs.

The only official way to play it was the Xbox 360/PS3 digital rerelease, and this 1up arcade cabinet.

>>10443603
It's just straight up cheaper to buy the PCBs for most of those games and make your own cabinet, that it would be to buy one of these licensed scale models

>>10443340
No. Simpsons monitors dont burn in that bad buuut the caps go bad and the colors get fucked whole thing turns green.

>>10443696
Scratch built cabs to a lot of effort to look good for what will only end up being an approximation of a real cab.

Find an empty for a few hundred and convert it. Its just a way better use of your time and money

>>10443603
>>Never done a Tekken cab
>>Never done a SF:A cab
People demand these on the a1up fb page constantly. A1up hates money.
>>Never done a KoF cab
This one is probably because snk launched their own alternative to a1up call mvsx or whatever.
>>Never done a SFIII cab
Traget demo is too old for sf3 -- game didnt take off till the early 2000s -- not a nostalgic era for the xoomers buying these cabs. and the sales data for sf3 anyway is fucked because 3 was bundled with 2 on ps2 and xbox capcom has no evidence that sf has ever been commercially successful in any form. They dont care how many tokens it ate since thwt money goes to operators, and the dc ports couldnt sell many units to such a small install base.
>>Never done a Soul series cab
Namco believes this was only succesful as a console series
>>Never done a VF series cab
A series time forgot -- at least in the eyes of some

Anyone who buys an arcade cabinet with an lcd is a clown.

>>10444110
The monitor isnt the biggest problem with these. Theres nothing authentic about them. Cab shapes materials artwork the buttons internal hardware none of it matches the originals. It isnt meant to. Even if it did it still lack the historical value of being an original.

The thing is merely meant to evoke the memory of the real thing. But... i cant help but see it as a big waste and i think ignorant upper middle class millenials and gen xers are being milked when they have better alternatives. It isnt hard to find arcade machines under a grand. Granted youd have to wait a while to find your game and your basically limited to common shit but... hell the selection is better than what a1up offers. I can find tekken, vf, and sfa on market place almost anytime. A1up will never touch them.

A1ups make a lot more sense at the used price point. A 150 dollar toy is fine for 150 bucks.

>>10442493
>>10442825
>I'd rather spend 4x as much as just have the real thing.
>Btw, a real Simpsons arcade cabinet is almost 10x as much.
if i'm going to be spending that much on a cabinet then i'd rather just make my own custom one loaded with my personal selection of games.

>>10444309
*i'd rather just imagine I could make

>>10442825
Yep poor people don't even get their own hobbies anymore

Time for new ones

>>10444091
>Never done a Tekken cab
>People demand these on the a1up fb page constantly. A1up hates money.
This seems simple to explain.
Tekken 1 and 2 aren't really remembered fondly enough to be worth making into a scale model arcade cab.
Tekken 3 is... not suitable for something like this. The way character unlocks in T3 Arcade works is just a total no go.
Tekken Tag, the arcade version is literally the worst version of the game.
Tekken 4 and 5 are based on the PS2 so building an emulator cabinet for them would cost quite a bit more than their usual ones.
Tekken 6 and Tag 2 are PS3.

>>10447963
If you got a 1up used, that is a respectable poor person hobby. If you bought a dozen new youre a fool and a soijak.

>>10448083
T2 is remembered fondly for its arcade mode. Even though it has no competitive scene remember casuals that make up the bulk of the audience do not care about they -- they never knew the game was broken.

>>10442804
>complains about casuals then gets excited for one of the most overrated and well known fighting games of all time

>>10443635
>Unless the Simpsons license is a huge deal for you there are much, much better beat em ups, even on console
It's a fun game for me even now, but if you were a kid who went to arcades in the 90s, you'd understand the lingering fascination moreso than somebody whose only exposure to it comes decades after the fact. Imagine being a kid back then, when The Simpsons was the hottest thing going, walking into an arcade and seeing one of these cabs still in great shape, going up to it and playing as your favorite characters (rendered in detailed graphics which really looked like the characters) in an easy to understand and addictive genre. Now remember that the only way to play this was if you went to an actual arcade which had this cabinet, thereby limiting your exposure to short bursts of play on select occasions, not something which you could play 1:1 at home, the closest options being the computer ports which not many people had.
You can call it rose tinted glasses, but yes, I think it is hard to understand the true infatuation that people who grew up going to arcades have for arcadd games, when your only exposure to them is in a world which they're just another set of ROMs to download and play whenever.

>>10444309
Mame cabinets are boring. Trust me. I own them. It's actually rather annoying to have to scroll through a bunch of menus and sort through 10,000 games. It feels like work and takes you our of the mood.

My dedicated cabinets get much more play. There's nothing like instantly starting a game and being thrown into the action. Plus all. The artwork, controls, and everything being built to support a specific game.

The appeal of a cab at home is largely the historical significance, the original hardware, dedicated its art work / aesthetic appeal

I dont get mame cabs because they lack that.

>>10448158
>The appeal of a cab at home is largely the historical significance, the original hardware, dedicated its art work / aesthetic appeal
>I dont get mame cabs because they lack that.

Mame cabinets have their origins in Emulation communities. Not Arcade communities.

And Emulation communities largely consist of 3 major groups of people:

1. Nerdy programmers who view programming games for emulators as a fun challenge. This is the smallest group.

2. Social hermits/recluses who only went to arcades reluctantly because it was the only option to play certain games. This is the 2nd largest group. They hated social interaction, and were the type of people that played in the corner of the arcade by themselves not talking to anyone. They only care about the software of the game, and not the cabinet itself.

3. People who were too poor, and never went to arcades. Poorfags. This is by far the LARGEST group. They simply want to download games for free, and Mame is a good excuse to do it. Many in this group are obsessed with amassing huge collections of ROMs and game libraries. They have no emotional or historical attachment to arcade cabinets.

These 3 groups don't understand why collectors go and collector real arcade cabinets. They think putting Mame inside a cabinet is the answer to everyones' problems. Huge rom collections on one cab. Problem solved right? Wrong! Like you said, they don't understand nostalgia or historical value. They didn't grow up with arcades.

From my experience, these Mame cabinets usually end up collecting dust for the majority of their owners. They play it a few times, and then let it sit for weeks or months. They hardly ever turn it on.

Lastly....to me an arcade collector, Scrolling through menus...sub menus and having to scroll through a list of 25,000 Mame games just to choose one game...is such a chore. Taking a few minutes to setup one game kills the mood. Not my preferred method of playing it.

>>10448308
Wowsers which one are you anon?

>>10448308
Genuine licensed multis like taitos nesica cabs do the multi thing right. Its a handful of games with an easy tasteful interface. Many of the games are designed around the hardware too

Or segas aime cabs, same deal

>>10448347
Also the cabs that house these are generic cabs meant for conversions anyway and are designed in such a way that much or all of the art work can be saved and reused

>>10448342
>Wowsers which one are you anon >>10448308
>Lastly....to me an arcade collector...

Reading comprehension

>>10448347
>Its a handful of games with an easy tasteful interface.

This is probably the biggest disadvantage of emulators. Telling devs that work on Mame or Retroarch that their interfaces are garbage makes them RAGE and REEEE. They scream about getting good and just learning to work with it. The devs have zero interest in fixing their UI. Meanwhile professional companies you mentioned understand that user interface is also very important.

>>10443690
I just checked out some longplays, DOS one looks pretty good.

DOS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH776REJjLs

C64: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX0-p8FKWTQ

>>10448342
He literally said he was an arcade cabinet collector. I swear there are speed readers everywhere in this thread.

>>10448390
>>10448410
Anon literally put himself in his own exclusive category but is obviously one of the 3 others. You can tell which one right?

>>10448485
>anon speed reads post
>tries to make witty insult
>fails
Lmao look at this cope

>>10448509
>anon thinks he's special somehow
>too autistic to realise literally everyone else can see through their glamour
Who's coping?

>>10448485
>arcade cabinet collector
>exclusive category
????

>>10448485
Just admit you missed the part where he said he collects real arcade cabinets. This is whole "well he's actually one of the other 3 categories" is really lame and isn't making you look better.

>>10448308
And what about number 4, people who just don't have space for that shit. Luke Morse's wife divorced him for that kind of hoarding KEK

>>10448408
DOS version didn’t exist in the timeline I was from. I’m not sure how I got here but it’s cool to know there at least was one relatively accurate version available for home.

>>10448583
I still dont get it. Id rather have one game i like. A mame cab seems like a bad compromise, feels like i dont really have a game at all.

>>10448567
>lastly... To me an arcade collector
Honestly if you are that guy, take a subtle ribbing without sperging out. It was meant as harmless fun, not worth even a reply.

FWIW I fit all 3 categories. And used to have a cab with several games on rotation. I absolutely get if you dislike mame cabs there's plenty of good reasons.

>>10448583
>Luke Morse's wife divorced him for that kind of hoarding
We have no idea who this is

And what does owning an arcade cabinet have to do with hoarding?

>>10448556
You are just embarrassing yourself more

>>10448612
>used to have a cab with several games on rotation
Im thinking about investing in 1 candy cab and just rotating pcbs and art.

>>10448634
You might as well get a Neo Geo Candy cab.

>>10448657
Neo feels more appropriate for snk games specifically (i have seen other companies games in them from time to time so i wouldnt rule it out completely). Good recommendation though for people who just want a legit cab with variety

But i like cps3 and cps2 mostly, im going sega or taito since you can find anything, even snk games in those. Thats what makes up the bulk of remaining cabs in retro sections at arcades and they were the most common even back in the day there.

>>10448634
>>10448657
I had the candy cab size. It even survived a few moves before I had to let it go. Went to another collector who could look after it, as the games were all worthy imo.

>>10448616
I think this is where most collectors-for-nostalgia end up. Aircraft hangars are too expensive these days.

>>10448624
Reminder: each reply is making the low tier bait another gotcha moment.

>>10448691
It's hard to get a candy now. Getting mine was a huge pain in the ass and I had to fix the monitor because something came loose during transport.

>>10442510
Sounds like people need to expand their horizons a bit.

>>10448746
>It's hard to get a candy now
For sure, youre fucked unless you live near california... or in east asia.

>>10448735
>I think this is where most collectors-for-nostalgia end up. Aircraft hangars are too expensive these days.

If you want more arcade cabinets than what an a garage or basement can hold, then you better live outside the city where you can build a barn or a small warehouse.

>>10448761
I dont think anyone should own a warehouse full, unless they plan to run an arcade, or theyre buying and selling. If theyre in the warehouse you cant really play em can you? And i dont think you can finincially support the hobby at that scale unless it becomes a business. Not most people

>>10448593
My timeline had it, I remember being impressed by it. Downloaded it off some abandonware site in the late 90s

>>10448769
What I mean is build a small storehouse and put in an arcade. Some collectors do it. But you have to live outside major cities to have a chance.

>>10448761
Thats exactly what I did. A massive shed.
The wife STILL complained. There were other things in there but still. Sigh.

>>10448583
Read a bit on this guy after your mention.
Wife and family? Games? Tough decision for some.

>>10448805
>The wife STILL complained. There were other things in there but still. Sigh.
Not that anon but my GF actually likes arcade cabinets and helps me hunt for them. She even helps me restore them. I do the repair and woodwork, and she paints them to look factory fresh. She's an artist as a hobby.

It's a shame you chose a wife that doesn't support your hobby.

I remember thinking this shit was interesting until I actually saw one in real life.
>The tiny size that's unusable standing without their shitty riser
>Controls are chink shit
>Don't even have plexi on the control panel (to prevent artwork from wearing off)
>Merely "acceptable" screen
>Can't even hack them to have more games
Would rather have a MAME cab any day of the week.

>>10442235
play to the end at least once on mame for free before you pay to play it on mame while taking up lots of space. you will very likely find this game not replayable at all. also, i can go to the bar that has tokens for ten cents on the day i'm usually there, and people keep giving me their extras faster than i can spend them because i'm cute and they go so far because i'm good at pinball, so it's actually free for me, and i get to play it around people instead of in my cope box.

>>10449094
>>The tiny size that's unusable standing without their shitty riser
I... never thought about it since i dont play on em often or long but yeah. Why make it riser compatible when the riser is obligatory. Just make it taller lmao
>>Controls are chink shit
Yeaaahhh why??? IL still makes parts and theyre not that expensive hell just use buttons that even look like the real deal at least mother of fuck stock a1up parts are cheap and ugly. Even modern happs or knock off happs are better
>>Don't even have plexi on the control panel (to prevent artwork from wearing off)
They fixed this later actually. Still -- shouldnt never have been a problem even without plexi since bare arcade cpo can hold up for years mostly intact, but they went with... the printing? Instead that rubbed right off disgusting
>>Merely "acceptable" screen
Hadnt thought about this till now but yeah what the fuck
>>Can't even hack them to have more games
Whats fucked up is its not jamma. Which means you cant even drop in a chinkshit multi easily

A lot of this could be forgiven if they didnt charge hundreds. Instead of improving quality they tack on useless crap like stools. This doesnt enhance my immersion i didnt sit my ass on a marvel stool to play mvc

>>10448850
Lucky for you anon, and it is definitely something that anyone should have their partner on board with. But it wasn't a sticking point for using . At least until some hard times emerged and we had to choose what to let go. She also gave up things important to her first, and I was sad about that too.

*sticking point for us

>>10448410
>speed readers

>>10449897
Voted class clown 15 years straight!

>wife and family
reeeeee get off my website

>>10442493
Shutup fag quit pretending to know other people's lives

No one asked for you to speak for them

>>10448086
Lol I don't even have 1

I wanted to get one for my family but I can stop picturing them breaking it and laughing about it. Wonder if there's something similar that doesn't break

>>10448593
What timeline are you from?

Everyone I knew played dos games and I also never saw this or even heard anyone mention it. I knew people that collected and own every game too. This is kinda spoopy bro

Anything else your timeline did have or did have?

>>10451957
I wouldn’t know what it did or didn’t have without reference. It’s possible we either come from the same timeline or one that has this detail in common.

>>10444110
unfortunately the CRTs are old, shot, dead, burned-in and the last guys who made arcade CRTs (some Taiwanese outfit IIRC) closed down their production as a huge fuck you

>>10452819
I used to see lots of arcade cabs especially Ms. Pac-Mans in service well into the 2000s then they all vanished near the end of the decade which seemed to almost perfectly coincide with losing the supply chain of new replacement CRTs at about that point.

>>10452828
we would probably still have new ones being made if it wasn't for the 08 recession

>>10442235
The Simpsons arcade game is honestly kind of shit, idk why it's so beloved

>>10452857
It's the same hardware as TMNT Arcade Game, just a different ROM set.

>>10452863
i never played tmnt, I just think the simpsons game is way too simple even by beat em up standards

>>10448123
Don’t bother trying to explain arcades and being a youth in the early 90s to a zoom zoom. Just know there are people like us who get it.

>>10452828
Arcade cabs have variable reliability. Some are better designed than others and the persistence of some Namco/Bally games in use for decades proves they must have been pretty sturdy. Anon mentioned in another thread that Williams games like Defender etc were not that reliable because they ran the components at higher speeds than they were rated for so they broke down quickly. I don't think I ever saw a Defender or Robotron cab anywhere.

>>10452935
>>10452828
i remember a local flea market in around 2001 had some arcade games, mostly Namco and Nintendo cabs but they also had a sit-down Night Driver. that one was already about 25 years old at that time. there aren't too many good photos of the PCB in those but it looks like they had the original original ceramic 6502 with the non-working ROR instruction. that version was already replaced by the time the Apple II was out in mid-'77.

>>10452935
>in those but it looks like they had the original original ceramic 6502 with the non-working ROR instruction
say what?

>>10452968
The earliest 6502 that MOS produced in 75-76 was ceramic shelled, 6 μm, and the ROR instruction was bugged and didn't work. Atari would have used these in their very early microprocessor-based games like Night Driver. By 1977 MOS had die shrunk them to 5 μm and fixed the ROR bug. The chips also went to plastic shells and they began licensing production to third parties.

Same reason why Nintendo wasn't able to port over the entire Wii Virtual Console: licenses cost money and most companies figured out that they can cut out the middle man and just release retro game collections on their own. Why do you think mini-consoles exist?

>>10452819
Finding a CRT is easy enough, and they last forever with proper maintenance. The only problem is most people refuse to service them. I contacted a few local electrical stores which have been open for decades and they won't even touch them.

>>10442493
Truth.

Considering that these things are basically just a tiny PCB that is running software emulation on hardware so weak it makes a RaspberryPi look like Nvidia's AI server farm in comparison, $500 is a ludicrous amount. The lack of CRT I understand, nobody has manufactured those in over a decade and it would severely drive up costs in production, shipment, and weight, but $500 for hardware that weak running a single game in software emulation in an arcade box? There are arcade emulation cabinets for less than that which literally have hundreds of games.

>>10453986
They usually have a small handful of games

But whats weird is, its the same small pool of games shuffled around different ways over and over. Lets say we have company a a license holder, and they have games 1 through 12

A1up releases 5 diferent cabs for game 1, which include the following game lists

1, 2, 3

1, 2, 3, 4

1, 2, 3, 5

1, 3, 4, 5

1, 2, 3, 6

Where are games 7 through 12? Why did i have to buy multiple cabs to get 1 though 6? Why did they release that second cab with games 1 through 4 right after releasing games 1 through 3? Why did they make five cabs with different variation of game 1s artwork instead of maybe doing at least on for game 2?

But instead of getting a new cab with games 7 through 12 they release games 1 2 3 4 5 6 like they shouldve already but this time WITH A STOOL AND RISER INCLUDED

Hard not to be mad at that

>>10452828
>I used to see lots of arcade cabs especially Ms. Pac-Mans in service well into the 2000s then they all vanished near the end of the decade which seemed to almost perfectly coincide with losing the supply chain of new replacement CRTs at about that point.
This exactly why. As soon as the last CRT factory closed down around 2007, arcade businesses couldn't guarantee repairs on arcade cabinets with CRT screens. So they retired them and pulled them from arcades. The supply chain issues ended CRT arcade cabinets.

>>10453986
>There are arcade emulation cabinets for less than that which literally have hundreds of games.

None that are officially approved by the Arcade companies like Namco/Konami/etc. A1Up has to pay licensing fees, and Japanese companies are not cheap when it comes to allowing this kind of arcade product. They want their pound of flesh.

>>10453610
>Finding a CRT is easy enough, and they last forever with proper maintenance. The only problem is most people refuse to service them. I contacted a few local electrical stores which have been open for decades and they won't even touch them.

Yep. Even within CRTs, there are brands which are notorious and difficult to work with. The few surviving CRT repair shops that are left in the USA only work on certain major brands. I called one up to repair an off-brand monitor that came installed in my Ms. Pac Man. As soon as I said the brand/model, the guy laughed, said nope, and hung up the phone.

>>10452857
>The Simpsons arcade game is honestly kind of shit, idk why it's so beloved
The Simpsons arcade came out in 1991. It was really good by the standards of the day. Nothing on consoles back then was as good. Stop judging the game by modern beat em up standards.

>>10455251
Simpsons is far from being shit, but there were also better beat em ups back then.

>>10455204
If you're referring to the Early Television Museum boomers who inherited all of Hawkeye's equipment they only do 50s-60s TVs. Also they only replaced electron guns, they didn't do phosphor replacement.

>>10455204
>I called one up to repair an off-brand monitor that
yeah, wanting to repair sketchy Chinese CRTs will do that to you

>>10442235
I really wanted to buy an a1up machine after covid and maybe mod it ti have more arcade ROMs, but the price was like $600+ for a new one and I couldn't find a good deal for used ones. Everyone keeps saying to build up your own cabinet but fuck that. I'm a millennial who lives in a condo and never touched a saw in his life. There needs to be better options out there, but somehow a1up has a strangehold on the entire industry.

>>10455204
also they rebuild CRTs for the US military as they have unlimited budget for any maintenance or parts they need

>>10455312
>>10455291
It was a Neotec Monitor. I believe they were an American company.

>>10455291
Rebuilding CRTs is also a very involved process with lots of heat, nasty chemicals, and safety risks, it's almost as complicated as manufacturing completely new tubes. I'm very sure the only shops that still do it are servicing military gear as like anon said Uncle Sam has unlimited money to pay for it.

>>10455465
It's not as bad as you make out for later CRTs which most arcade cabs would be using. High-end monitors like Nanaos even discharge themselves after use, so no risk of electrical shock. 50s and 60s CRTs are extremely dangerous though.

The major missed potential from them is a candy cab style build, maybe not as bulky but id be down for something like that to mod

>>10455552
id but Hawkeye/Early Television Museum were of the opinion that 50s tubes were easier to rebuild. i assume one reason is that they were predominantly black and white. try and align color electron guns, i dare you. there's a boomer out there somewhere who can tell you how fun that was.

>>10455648
that's because they're boomers whose knowledge and tools are based around 50s-60s CRTs. rebuilding a 90s CRT would be different, as anon said probably easier and with fewer safety risks.

unfortunately there were no home consoles ports of SAG because Accgayme owned the Simpsons console license

>>10442235
all the usual Namco/Konami/Capcom/Atari games you've already seen. would be nice to see Mouse Trap or Kickman once in a while instead of Galaga and SF2 yet again.

>>10455204
The Wells Gardner K7000 is the monitor to get if you're in the US and want a true arcade monitor. Relatively plentiful, a lot of information about repairs (plus lost of people active online who deal with them), readily obtainable replacement parts including the flyback. My only complaint is that the traces look like a jumbled mess of cooked spaghetti, but that doesn't impact reparability if you pay attention.

>>10455648
Older CRTs don't have an implosion band so any kind of impact will make them violently shatter into a million pieces.

>>10455659
Anon was talking about the difference between monochrome and color displays. Really nothing to do with "danger" and "safety risks". Of course if you don't even understand that yes, there's a real safety risk any time you play with daddy's tools.

>>10448123
I remember wanting the game as a kid, never realising it never got a port. My step dad, however, was a computer nerd and ended up pirating the shitty dos version for me to play.

I think you guys don't get that these are the equivalent to home-use foosball or airhockey tales vs commercial grade ones. If you ever see how these are sold, they're in a box that's light weight enough to be pushed around in a Wal-mart cart or easily shipped
$300 is still within "impulse" buy range for anyone who makes steady money where if you had to throw one of these out in two years or just give it away you aren't sweating it. You can break it down to a flat, lightweight rectangle. Disassembling an authentic arcade cabinet for transportation is much harder and taking a loss on it is a bigger punch to the gut.
These have never been meant to be a substitute for a proper arcade cabinet, but the market wouldn't be able to support if all the people who buy these saved up to buy cabinets. Not enough in the wild and shipping would be costly.

>>10442493
>These things are cheap shit, but most people don't seem to care.
Because the people consuming these just want the aesthetic, they dont play games

>>10457368
Its not for you: but unironically.

Like, some people just fondly remember playing these games for a brief period in their youth, never getting past screen 2 or dkjr, mashing until they got to bison in sf2 and giving up, only comparing their pacman score to their friends, calling galaga guh laga cuz they didnt know better, pouring tokens into beat em ups without making it anywhere near the end, playing shooters because they like guns and they cant tell you the name of the game but they had fun

The a1up is for them. They have hobbies their more passionate about you probably only scratched the surface of, but do they lash out at you or rant about it on the internet?

You ever see normies bitching that you dont care about sports or know how to fish or grill a burger? Theyre not looking down on you, why do you look down on them?

>>10448802
>too bright
>too clean
>no haze of cig/joint smoke
3/10 feels uncanny

>>10448136
to each their own i guess. at the end of the day i'd only ever see my self getting a real cabniet if i either REALLY liked the game or it was a unique experience that can't really be properly emulated (i.e. battletech pods, specific racing games, specific lightgun games, simulators, etc.).

I got a lull barn full of arcades i got bored of after i built my mame

Cheers, poorfags

>>10459201
Mame cabinets can work, but you have to seriously limit the amount of games on it. I would put no more than a few dozen to maybe 100 games max. A quality selection of your top games you actually play

I absolutely do not like cabinets that have thousands of games (including consoles) like pic related, and you have to spend a few minutes trying to choose your game.

If you do a dedicated racing cabinet, then it's best to have 2 of them so someone else can race against you. A single racing cabinet is much less fun. Especially at parties or events.

>>10459459
>I got a lull barn full of arcades i got bored of after i built my mame
So that's where the smell of lullshit is coming from.

>>10442825
poojeet english moment

>>10443324
What an absolute brainlet you are.
Sure, the parts don't cost the firm that much, but you do realise that they have to build those? Pay their employees and for the license?
They're a business, of course they want to make a profit.

>>10443303
There can be, they're just not worth the cost of making. It's why no one really wants to make CRTs for hobbyists. The actual manufacturing cost isn't worth it.

>>10443303
Idk i made a thread about that and some douche got really angry with me about it. Telling me i dont go to arcades even and im a broke neet and id need "mommy" to drive me there. I stopped responding because i realized if i took the bait and provided proof this wasnt the case id risk doxxing myself or something

Weird theres enough demand for 4:3 lcds literally for exclusive use as arcade monitors and marketted as such but not convex lcds? Is it really that hard?

>>10460450
>convex lcds
They will probably just create a plexiglass add-on that goes over the LCD screen. You could probably order one yourself of you really want a convex screen.

>>10457457
>Guh laga
Sounds like Guh laxian. Idk but seemed reasonable to me at 12yo.

>>10455317
There used to be CAD drawings getting around for basic arcade cabinets including cocktail designs. A cabinet making firm with CNC might be able to make one new for a competitive price if you can tolerate building one yourself. You may have to settle for a cheap multi inside a joystick panel/lcd tv if you don't have the skills to wire up the real deal. It will look and feel real enough though.

>>10442235
I mean, having access to the entire MAME library taught me one thing - the vast majority of arcade games are extremely same-y.

>arcade cabinet where every surface is a microLED display that changes the cabinet art to match the game you're currently playing

>>10462983
It would have to be color e-ink on the sides and control face otherwise it would look really weird.

>>10462880
>drawings for basic arcade cabinets including cocktail designs.
Where can one find such drawings?

>>10457357
No one who criticizes these owns a 1UP, Mame, or normal cabinet of any kind.

>>10462983
Add in some kind of mechanized controller panel that rearranges itself to match the original cabinet's layout

>>10463072
If you don't use AutoCAD Inventor yourself, its actually easy to learn, or try Grabcad or one of many other sites where people share their designs. I found a design on my first search but you want to be sure the size /design suits your needs.

Lol sorry there aren't that many other sites, but there's a couple more. I wrote that without thinking.

>>10462981
Having unlimited freeplay of most any arcade game you could ever want at the drop of a hat via emulation, in an era where such games no longer feature near cutting edge graphics and gameplay quality, can result in a sort of "ice cream for breakfast, lunch, and dinner" effect. They were meant to be played in short bursts, at specific locations, and in a way such that each and every session required monetary sacrifice. Even when you had home ports, most of them were inferior to the arcade originals in one way or another, so the arcade versions still maintained a superiority which could only be enjoyed if you went to the arcade.

>>10462880
>Sounds like Guh laxian
Compelling argument. I have to consider this now

>>10462981
If you checked out out as many as possible in a 10k plus game library you probably didnt sink enough time into any singular game to really *get* them

>>10464697
A better way of saying it:

Having unlimited lives removes the thrill of gameplay.

It's like playing Poker or Black Jack with unlimited money. What's the point?

Part of the challenge of playing these arcade games was seeing how far you could get with the spare change in your pocket. The longer you survived, then the longer you can entertain yourself (and avoid reality).

In fighting games, the best players were the ones who could use one quarter, and fight all challengers on Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter. A long line of people constantly fighting you, and you had to defend your throne. Imagine sitting in an arcade in 1993 and playing the same Street Fighter machine for hours and a long line of people keep stacking quarters on the cabinet to challenge you

>>10464987
I can entertain myself for hours fighting people on free play. In the end i end up spend about as much. Tbh i dont care aboht the payment method, be it quarters tokens wristbands cards etc doesnt matter much to me.

I work at Big Tech and they've started adding those to buildings as some sort of benefit/aesthetic thing. I never see anyone playing on them, they're frequently misconfigured or just turned off

Just today a coworker came across one and tried to play Astroids but the controls were completely mislabeled. He couldn't figure it out at all. I at least got it working but controlling Astroids is a pain in the ass so we walked away after a minute.

But yeah, the company has plenty of money to burn on that sort of shit. Can't imagine anyone still thinking we're a cool place to work just for having an imitation cab in 2023, though

>>10465115
Freeplay wasn't a thing back in the 90s.

If you only had 2 dollars and were playing Metal Slug or Raiden on an arcade cabinet, then you understand the thrill of fighting with limited funds.

>>10465191
Tbh...Those game rooms aren't meant to be played.

Those game machines are there to look cool appealing on the company careers page for job applicants. So the company can advertise them as "perks".

But once you are actually hired, your manager will get annoyed if you actually spend any time in there.ans say you aren't focused on work.

So they sit there collecting dust most of the time.

>>10442235
Becuase they smell those for like $300 $400 a pop.

>>10457457
>You ever see normies bitching that you dont care about sports or know how to fish or grill a burger?
Yes. Unironically. If you like computer shit, anime or games more than "normal" hobbies they absolutely judge you.

You just have to continue until you meet another retard fag who spends hours archiving .swf files like you. It's not worth trying to integrate with normals or try to have them understand your autistic shit. Just hide your fucking powerlevel until you get a whiff of the tisim then you can actually bother with them.

>>10457457
>The a1up is for them. They have hobbies their more passionate about you probably only scratched the surface of, but do they lash out at you or rant about it on the internet?
That's the part where you are wrong. The people I know who'd buy this have exactly zero hobbies they're passionate about. Rather a bunch of really surface level interests.
The kinda kids who used to "hang out" near the 7-11after school being idle all day and now just sit on the sofa with their wife all day being equally idle.

>>10463072
Right here on /vreddit/ Just start a thread with the subject "I'm totally gonna build my own arcade for realsies" and ask for drawings and you'll get dozens of them made by skilled woodworkers who have totally made them irl and didn't get a note from their mommies to get out of shop class. That way you don't even have to spend 30 seconds googling. You can get desperate larpers to do it for you.

>>10447963
nigger buy a $150 - 200 PC and emulate your shit for free.
literally every hobby ever ranges from cheap to expensive depending on what it is you want.
super specific specialised materials wanted by extreme hobbyists will always be expensive no matter what the hobby is.

>>10464987
>unlimited lives
Yes, but that's only a fraction of it. Arcade games/cabs were special things which you couldn't have at home, and for the most part were better than what you had at home. Emulation largely removes that mystique, for better or worse, and this especially so for people who weren't even alive to remember those experiences.

>>10465720
NTA but it's also the reason why Arcade manufacturers are making arcade machines that can't easily be replicated at home.

That means unique controls for each game.

No more joysticks and button games like you saw in the 80s and 90s. Manufacturers know everyone can easily get a game pad now.

Much More focus on shooting games, racing games, rhythm games, and VR games. That's where the money is (not counting Ticket games).

Pinball is also pretty popular now, but that's a different industry than arcades.

>>10465803
Yeah, pinball seems to be doing well. No matter how much big tech tries to convince people to the contrary, humans (outside of completely brainwashed late zoomers and gen alphas) like things which are tangible and have that human touch.

>>10465803
Theres still practical value in joystick and button arcade cabinets -- playing multiplayer with strangers locally particularly fighting games. The issue is, outside of asia most people would rather play multiplayer games online.

In america arcades are few and far between only to be found in cities that are often unpleasant to go to, and people who do go are scrubs anyway

Meanwhile in japan cities are common, pleasant streets and buildings are squeaky clean, no threats of violence anywehere and theres real competition in japanese arcades. Offline in arcades is preferable to online on console

Many incentives to not go to an american arcade for games you *could* experience at home. No one really consciously thinks about it though. For most who dont go they simply are or arent aware or dont feel motivated

In america the competitive appeal of arcades is largely gone. If youre decent at any game you can totally dunk on anyone you fight. You might walk up while someones at a cab and they may say "n-no its fine you can take it" or you walk around asking if someone wants to play and they may say "i dont know how sorry" as though they didnt have to learn every game by playing it at some point, youll encounter people who will fight you, literally mash and admit to mashing even after you tell them why they shouldnt and theyll feel like they shouldve one and they got robbed youll encounter people who will refuse to fight and say "no i would lose" (well then you already lost lol)

So the damage is done. We arent going back to the days of lines infront of street fighter, everyone taking turns getting their ass kicked by one guy till he eventually leaves.

But there was a point where it was still a thing and yet some people said "no id rather mash with my friends on a pad". Because they didnt understand the competitive aspect. Im not talking mlg esports whatever crap just, talking about the appeal of fighting and beating worthy opponents to learn and grow

My beating fighting game memories are in arcades. Win or lose. Whether im stomping noobies who think im a god because they never learned how to deal with my cross up oki it feels good to be recognized for the effort ive put in, or im getting stomped by some dude pulling combo movie shit because i can feel myself growing any time i do better. People are way more kind in person and its so much more relaxing to talk than it is to type. I dont like my fight stick shifting around, i dont like emulating, i dont like having to angle and space my tv just right to still not quite be comfortable in my non functional bedroom (floor plan and furniture are an awkward fit for eachother)

Cabs are comfortable. Cabs are pretty. I love the art work, i love being able to experience the game in its original format on the real device it was played on. Its an *actual* street fighter / blaz blue / whatever machine. Yknow? Its more real. Thats the way it was when it started and by emulating the shit or playing a port i just feel more removed from it. Disconnected

>>10467042
Beating? I meant best, what the fuck

>>10443324
>2MB of gameplay
This may be the worst post of all time.

>>10458563
>smoking inside
degenerate

i smoke millions of cigs
& even i hate smoking indoors\people who do that.
i lowkey even hate smoking in casinos
>>10459596
imagine putting this in your house
imagine thinking snes, genesis, and poorly emulated n64 games belong on a laggy flatpanel "arcade" machine kek
you could not PAY me to accept such a shitty item

>>10448802
needs claw machine
needs soda machine
needs disco balls\lights
comfy though

>>10442235
in a word, convenience
no fiddling with ancient hardware
no arcade board to start acting up
no excessive costs, plug and play
its literally the ikea furniture version of a cabinet
most boomers seem to get them on "sale" & collect a handful of them

i snag them off craigslists for under 100$ all the time and convert them to multicabs or run my actual jamma boards in them.
button and stick swaps are cheap\easy
the screens on SOME of the cabs are actually decent

>>10448308
based
MAME is pure shit
horrible garbage software
worse than retroarch somehow
i didnt think it was even possible

>>10467010
>In america the competitive appeal of arcades is largely gone. If youre decent at any game you can totally dunk on anyone you fight. You might walk up while someones at a cab and they may say "n-no its fine you can take it" or you walk around asking if someone wants to play and they may say "i dont know how sorry" as though they didnt have to learn every game by playing it at some point, youll encounter people who will fight you, literally mash and admit to mashing even after you tell them why they shouldnt and theyll feel like they shouldve one and they got robbed youll encounter people who will refuse to fight and say "no i would lose" (well then you already lost lol)

Holy projection Batman

>>10467059
>smoking inside
>degenerate
>i smoke millions of cigs
>& even i hate smoking indoors\people who do that.
>i lowkey even hate smoking in casinos

I was at an arcade in a casino recently and I would have usually lit up because it's always filled with smoke anyways, but nobody was smoking besides this fat old guying sucking on a pipe. The social awareness is getting stronger. In the 90s it was still normal to smoke inside and people got mad when smoking bans started, but as a smoker I think it's good. It's gross, no matter how you spin it. I personally like the taste and smell, but even when I take breaks I don't like the lingering smell on your clothes/fingers/etc... it's fowl. It's just a common courtesy and a common sense practice to not impose your addictions onto other people.

>>10467070
How so?

>>10467070
Dude i swear /vr/ is nothing but insane projections from people never leaving their house in a small town.

>>10448123
it breaks my heart that Hyperstone Heist/Turtles In Time existed, and it probably would have been easy to use the game engine for The Simpsons, but Acclaim had the rights for consoles.
Especially because the console ports probably would have been easier than the arcade version.

>>10465540
Why mad? It's barely woodwork. Lots of anons could build a cab if they tried.

>>10465803
>NTA but it's also the reason why Arcade manufacturers are making arcade machines that can't easily be replicated at home
100% true where I live. Arcades have almost disappeared and the remaining ones are a franchise with ticket machines, gun games, claw machines and car games. Nary a joystick to be seen. Multi cabs are in kids lounges of pubs and resorts on free play. And the sticks are normally not functional.

It's up to collectors to keep the traditional cabs like OPs alive.

>>10464697
>>10464987
Bruh, I'm talking about the same designs and gameplay being cloned over and over, not some deep philosophical statement on the nature of games.

>>10467059
>no fiddling with ancient hardware
>no arcade board to start acting up
arcade boards varied a lot in how reliable they were. some hold up better than others. Namco/Midway cabs happened to be some of the better ones which is why they lasted in service so long.

>>10468325
>arcade boards varied a lot in how reliable they were. some hold up better than others. Namco/Midway cabs happened to be some of the better ones which is why they lasted in service so long.
Even within manufacturers, some boards are better than others.

Sega Model 2 was great. But Sega Model 3 and Hikaru were delicate, temperamental, and difficult to repair.

Namco System 22 had issues with graphics chips failing while Namco System 11 and System 23 were more reliable.

>>10468523
>Namco System 22 had issues with graphics chips failing while
Probably thermal issues. Or maybe the power filtering on the boards was shit.

>>10468530
Was mainly referring to how the early 80s games like Pac-Man, Galaga, etc held up well although I believe Midway heat-sinking the RAM on US cabs probably helped (maybe the Japanese ones weren't as reliable, I don't know). Like someone else mentioned Williams games were not reliable because they ran components at higher speeds than they were rated for so they didn't last too long.

>>10468530
System 22 had an early 3D graphics chip, it was like the Sega VSP. New technology and they were still figuring it out. The Dreamcast also had problems in the beginning because NEC had trouble manufacturing the GPU and were getting like 30% yields on the initial run of the chips.

>>10468575
the problem with the Dreamcast GPU was that NEC had to throw away a bunch of wafers due to contamination issues. apparently somebody at the plant did something retarded to cause that and hopefully he committed seppuku in shame.

>>10468557
I guess Nintendo cabs were also pretty good.

>>10468016
You could be mad for any number of reasons. Maybe the post hit too close to home. Maybe you're just a perpetually seething zoomie.

>>10468530
>Probably thermal issues. Or maybe the power filtering on the boards was shit.
Different anon here. I'm not an expert. My friends father used to run an arcade in the 90s to early 2000s. He was always having issues with Ridge Racer, Alpine Racer, and a few other System 22 boards. He had to repeatedly send them back to Namco USA for repairs. I heard they eventually stopped repairing them, and my friends dad just replaced the machines after several years. I used to enjoy playing Tokyo Wars. Now that I think about it I should ask whatever happened to those arcade machines.

https://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?t=39626&start=20

This guy suggests it's the cooling fans in the cab that disintegrate and damage the PCB from spitting debris on it.

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