/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10464985
Aren't the DS Pokémong ames just objectively better than the GB ones? And Pokémon games are so similar with the core principle peing to just collect dumb Pokémon that I don't really get why people still insist on the GB ones

Not like they hold up visually and are charming or anything either

>>10464985
Crystal Clear if you don't mind raceswapped NPCs.
>>10464995
Why are you on this board?

>>10465009
>Why are you on this board?
Because I strongly believe that most good games are retro. Doesn't mean I play retro games just for the sake of them being retro. Some series are just progressive improvements

>>10464995
I like the tiles and spirites of crystal the best, but everything else is improved in HGSS

>>10464985
The one you make yourself.

>>10464985
I want to check out Crystal Legacy, but been too lazy. Crystal Clear was alright though.
>>10464995
>Not like they hold up visually and are charming
What? The 16 bit soundtrack and graphical style in the GBC era were iconic. The remakes were good, but less nostalgiabait.

>>10464985
You need to wait for the update to Polished Crystal which'll remove the Pokemon 255 limit update.

Alternatively just make a simple polished Crystal of your own

https://github.com/pret/pokecrystal/wiki/Tutorials

>>10464985
>romhack
no, none, never playing any of them
what other series has such a cringe hacker/gameruiner club following it around?

>this game needs way worse dialogue!
>this game needs adult humor!
>this game needs cursing
>more edge!!!
cringe

>>10464985
Crystal 251, if only because it doesn't do much more than make all Pokemon available and offer in-game ways to get all the Stadium prizes.

>>10465215
Literally none of these hacks do this you dumb fucking tranny

From what I've read looking into them, Polished Crystal and Soul Crystal are just full of nu-gen garbage and even go so far as to remove original pokemon to add in nu-gen pokemon so you can safely disregard them. Crystal Ultimate and Crystal Legacy seem like they're trying to be kosher but Ultimate's changelog is a fucking wall of text so I don't know if I missed any crap.

>>10465272
crystal clear made all the npc's in Pokemon japan look african for some reason, then when people complained, the autist started banning everyone from his discord and threw a huge temper tantrum.

>>10465512
You'll notice that's not in the Pic

>no Pokemon Prism
but for why

i'm a crystal clear shill, that game ruined vanilla titles for me and i really don't spring for rom hacks the overwhelming majority of the time

fuck all those ones that add later gen pokemon, fakemon, or try and create new full regions

if crystal clear maintained the original e4 cast with different teams, the game would be a 10/10 for me; as it stands though it's still a 9 in terms of pokemon games

yes i'm gay

>>10465847
That's its own thing.

>>10465913
>or try and create new full regions
Turn your anti-fun autism down a few notches faggot, those are the best hacks of them all. They're new games.

>>10464985
>play polished crystal
>does a bunch of stupid shit like adding secondary types to random pokemon
oh yeah ground/fire typhlosion makes a ton of sense

>>10464985
Pokemon Perfect Crystal

>>10464995

>>10464995
>>10466153

>>10465970
>those are the best hacks of them all.
lmao

>>10465201
>16 bit
Its 8bit zoomie.

>>10466153
>>10466163
now post the japanese version

>>10466770
GS:
そんなこと いわずに どっちか あそんでくれないか?
HGSS:
ちょっと まって!
2たい1での しょうぶとは ずいぶん ふこうへい じゃないか?
さすがは ロケット団 ずるいことが だいすき なんだな わるいけど このしょうぶ おれも さんかさせて もらうよ!

>>10466163
my god, 20 seconds of added dialogue at the beginning of the game

>>10466153
>Blasts unarmed grunts with Hyper Beams
>Lectures the Execs about fighting fair
Hypocrite!

>>10466786
The forced old man map tour takes at least twice that long alone. It's long in the original too, but not forced on you.

>>10464985
Sour Crystal

>>10464985
>Crystal Legacy
>fuck with game balance to make sure no monster is allowed to be unique or challenging to use ever full stop
>Polished Crystal
>remove Gen 1 and 2 monsters to make room for Gen 4 slop because "you weren't using Spearow, Fearow, Lickitung, Goldeen, Seaking, Hoppip, Skiploom, Jumpluff, Shuckle, Aipom, Stantler, Cleffa, Igglybuff, Smoochum, and Delibird anyway"
>remove Gen 1 and 2 moves for similar reasons
The other two likely aren't much better.

>>10467345
>G/S/C
>The old man can be skipped, but obliging him and taking the tour for the map only takes a minute and then you're on your way
>HG/SS
>The old man forces you to take the tour the moment you step into Cherrygrove. He first shows off his Running Shoes a bit, then gives the tour, gives you the Shoes, has to make a joke about them being a new pair and not his, and then stops you before leaving town to give you the map
The original games assumed you already played R/B/Y and mostly left you alone, while the remakes assume you have no competence in figuring out what to do next.

>>10467392
>the remakes assume you have no competence
You're complaining about an NPC that gives you two essential items.

>>10466092
How does perfect compare to legacy?

>>10467405
Neither the map nor the running shoes are essential. You can easily complete the game without either, and the original let you do that.

>>10468382
Also the game rewards you for exploring by giving you optional items. Whereas the remake just gives you everything every time, just for walking along a straight path. And you have to take the same path every time, no taking on the gym before Sprout Tower. It's like you're on rails.

>>10464985
sour crystal

Are there any GSC romhacks that add Hoenn and Sinnoh? The first 4 regions are the Japanese ones, and the only games I consider canon, plus the best part of GSC is that they managed to fit Kanto. So the obvious thing to do is add 2 more regions that fit thematically, and Gen IV evolutions fit too (Magmortar, Electivire, Yanmega, etc).

Also, HGSS was garbage trash. Compare the aesthetics of Johto at night, with the GBC pallette, to HGSS. They also removed the female player model from Crystal, who had one of the best designs, and replaced her with some ugly retard cunt with a mushroom for a hat. The music was awful too. Anyone that likes HGSS over the originals should be spayed and neutered to prevent spreading their useless genes.

>>10468549
the music is better, graphics are a sidegrade
Crystal's animated battle sprites were better

>>10468510
>"missable" HM
>original expects you to see a simple puzzle and solve it
>if you skip it you'll have to come back for it anyway
>remake has to add a NPC exclusively to tell you not to skip it
>people still complain about missing it

>>10468618
the worst think to me about the remake is tgat they force you to battle ho-oh/lugia

>>10468676
This is my only real gripe with HG/SS. Legendarys are legendary because you seek them out and earn the fight, not because the story says they're legendary then hands them to you on a silver platter. Hated this in crystal too with Suicune.

>>10468693
>Hated this in crystal too with Suicune.
Suicune wasn't a required fight in Crystal though.

>>10468693
Pretty sure you can still choose to ignore Suicune and move on with the plot, while HG/SS literally won't let you into Kanto until Ho-Oh/Lugia is at least encountered.

>>10468697
>>10468703
Its true that you can skip the fight, but the story still presents you an easy opportunity to catch something that is supposed to be legendary. Gen 1 gets it right by having you explore areas that are just there to find these pokemon. Crystal just says "Here's a Suicune if you want it." It detracts from the whole legendary status.

>>10468710
Crystal is no different from G/S there, you get the Clear Bell from beating the Radio Tower just like you get the Rainbow/Silver Wing in G/S, and fight him in the same place as Ho-oh.

>>10468710
I don't remember well, but does Eusine tell you where to find suicune after it runs away or not?

>>10470332
Don't think so. It just heads East, where you're going anyway, and you see it on your way to Mahogany.

Legacy

>>10464985
COCKSLAYER PRESENTS
BRISTOL SMEAR
COCKSLAYER PRESENTS

>>10465215
>edge
STFU, everyone knows you're some loser cubefag that put many hours on Collesium and the DS Pokemon games.

>>10466783
>incestual fantasies
Why would Lance do that???

>>10467371
play it, so you can give us more warnings

>>10464985
The only romhack I would play is a 60fps + uncensor patch.

>>10465009
>raceswapped NPCs
qrd?

>>10464985
Crystal Clear.
>>10464995
>Aren't the DS Pokémong ames just objectively better than the GB ones?
Not at that speed they aren't. Way too slow.

>>10473613
why does an rpg need 60 fps?

Patched Crystal.

>>10466153
>Nooooo they change a line of dialogue, kusogeeeee kusogeeeee
Retard.

>>10473624
Shock-slayer added some code to randomly change the skin colour of some npcs, but there was a mistake and it ended up making almost everyone black. He doubled down and refused to change it. He claims there is a trans plot against him and all of his mistakes are dues to trannys lying about him.

>>10473901
>there was a mistake and it ended up making almost everyone black. He doubled down and refused to change it. He claims there is a trans plot against him and all of his mistakes are dues to trannys lying about him.
cap

>>10473901
Youcan change your gender in the game, your pokemon even reacts positively
I'd think this is enough to keep them happy

>>10473135
>COCKSLAYER PRESENTS
always gets me

Pokefags are the only fandom in this site that thinks remakes are good. Probably because the series ingrained the consoomer mindset into them.

>>10473689
Smoother fades.