/vr/ - Retro Games

>free DVD player included in an era when they cost almost as much as a PS2 ensuring wide adoption of both the format and console
this is the worst part now though since it kills the laser

>>10461941
They made like 120 million of these things, they'll be finding lnib lasers in 3000 years. At this point almost everybody using one probably has a hard drive or SSD or gets their games from their home server etc. anyway.

>>10461923
I remember getting one in 2001 and getting oni. Really just, disappointing. I was poor so my parents were like"what do you mean you need a game too, doesn't it come with games?" So they bought me the cheapest game, which was oni. What the fuck do you even do in that game?

>>10461923
is the ps2 the most aesthetic console ever conceived? the answer is of course, yes.

>>10461941
>worst part about the ps2 is that it read discs

I have consoles older than PS2 that still read discs and like other anon said, you can OPL from HDD or Network these days.

>>10461968
It looks like an end to a book case, which is classy and high brow. Mixed with the sleek verticality and accenting striped grooves, the PS2 has the patina of exquisit craftsmanship that's been lost to the the ages.

>>10461968
no that would the Model 1 Genesis/Mega Drive

>>10461986
>looks like it should have had a cd
>in reality, it should have (that was the original plan)
>change plan, go with cart, keep cd aesthetic
It was a deception.

>>10461986
I recant my earlier statement. I would argue that the MD model 2 + Sega CD model 2 is the most aesthetic of all

>>10461923
>It won.
Then why are you so desperate and insecure that you have to convince us?
>great graphics, 2D and 3D
...and that you have to lie

The truth is it was mostly a JRPG machine and 99% of its games were mediocre. A lot of the best games weren't exclusive or at least not for long

>>10461974
what's the easiest way to set up a SMBv1 share for the ps2 without exposing myself to malwares?

>>10461982
>N64 looks like a booster seat at a cheap diner
>Dreamcast looks like that thing you have to put on your toilet when your grandma comes over
>Xbox is literally just an x on a box and the GameCube is a fucking cube.
Holy fuck what the fuck is wrong these layman? No class, sony has class. The Sony name exhumes class

>>10461992
Model 2 looks like a cheap toy, kek

>>10461963
Most of my PS2 experience was like this. A lot of hype and a lot of pretty boxarts but then when playing the actual games it's just boredom

>>10461997
It was a GTA machine for people who aren't weebs

>>10462004
I think certain angles/lighting just sell it for me
i grew up with the model 1 btw

>>10461923
Are you trying to sound like that crying Wojak meme on purpose?

>>10461923
>not a single exclusive game in the top 10
Poverty console and useless if you own the others. Same goes fore very Playstation to this day

Thing is with post-PS2 consoles so much of the garbage is online that many games won't even function, it's destined to be the best retro control of ALL TIME, going into the future.

>>10461941
i remember my friend killing my ps2's laser by accidentally brushing it with his shoe. both psx and ps2 were low ass production quality

>>10462020
God of war
Dmc
Metal gear solid
Final fantasy
Jack and daxter
Ratchet and clank
Sly Cooper
Dark cloud
Katamari
Okami

>>10462049
>Brushing it with my shoe
>Low ass quality
The PS2 slim, yeah it's pretty bad quality, but og PS2 is great quality. Most nogs never got to experience the better quality, just the San Andreas slim ps2

>>10462052
>God of war
>starting your post with this shitty buttonmasher

>>10462060
it was the big one. i even still have it for some reason. interestingly he gave me his gamecube to make up for it and the gamecube has holes and missing plastic bits everywhere because his drunkard father played football with it once. still works like it's new. i can take a pic of it if i get 10 replies

>>10461963
Oni was an experimental game that was drastically cut back because Bungie needed all hands on deck for Halo. What we got really only had the bare minimum of a complete game, the core gameplay works and the enemies work but everything related to the levels and presentation were clearly missing months of polish. Also the multiplayer just got cut completely along with tons of other stuff.

>>10462061
Ok, Shinobi or onimusha 2 or rygar(yeah, it's actually fucking legit)

>>10461923
6th gen babies need to fuck off, old modern =/= retro

when you play a ps2 or gaycube game, you're just playing a modern game that has worse graphics than the newer ones, it's a simple fact

>>10462068
You can't brush a shoe on an og ps2 laser, larping zoomer

>>10462079
you don't have to to damage the laser lens inside. whatever it is, it stopped reading games afterwards

>>10462071
Felt like it. I mean, I forced myself to enjoy it until I got Jak and daxter, which is an amazing 3d platformer

>>10462075
>Shinobi
Trash. Actually play it
>onimusha 2
>action game with static camera and angles constantly changing
This alone even almost ruined DMC1 and Onimusha has none of the depth
>rygar(yeah, it's actually fucking legit)
lol

PS2 is great if you don't respect your time and just want to play mediocre shit

>>10462089
Bro, I had a friend whose whole CD tray was fucked off from abuse and he had to hotwire the damn thing to turn on and it still worked, I had a PS2 that my mom through on the floor and it was all fucked, but it still read games. I've fixed and modded at least 5 ps2's. You can't sell your snake oil to me kid, now go play in the street will ya

I love that /vr/ now allows console war threads even /v/ would delete. Trying to come up with a few banger threads now

>>10462094
I own Shinobi, moron shit for brains retard. It's fun. rygar is legit a hidden gem, you sound like a negative Nancy faggot with piss poor examples of why these games suck. I get it you have a hate boner because Sony won, go be passive aggressive in the corner.

>>10462096
>I've fixed and modded at least 5 ps2's
not really helping your case

>>10462102
>I have no standards
I figured that already

>>10462041
>Top ten
>Metacritic

>>10462106
>No argument just attacks
What are you on the rag or just forget to take your hormones, sweaty?

>>10462041
reddit post

>>10462104
Not even relevant to the conversation. You're a literal retard with father issues, trying to lie to strangers on the internet, want a cookie?

>>10462116
the internet is filled to the brim with technical ps2 issues and let's not even start on ps1. will you kill yourself if i make a video to prove it doesn't work?

>>10462127
>will you kill yourself if i make a video to prove it doesn't work?
Kek, no. Retard. but go on, pretend to make the video where you brush your shoe against a PS2 laser, which is actually impossible; with how the PS2 is engineered and all. I'll be here waiting... not

>>10462137
>pretend to make the video where you brush your shoe against a PS2 laser
you can absolutely damage the laser by hitting the ps2 casing. i don't know why this bothers you so much and this thread is filled with schizos

bye

>>10462061
>What a fucking fag. he should just telekenitically project his will for the device to interpret into gameplay.

What kind of desperate grudgeful moron do you have to be to shame the pressing of buttons? god forbid a game requires you to interact with it by pushing buttons, it should just solve itself as you watch while sitting on your hands. it's obvious you have no argument and just want to bitch at anything regarding the PS2 like a scornful spinster talking about a younger woman.

>>10462146
>Asks if anon will kill himself if he makes a fake video
>Calls others schizos
Hey Chris chan

>>10462041
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:PlayStation_2-only_games?shem=sswnst

About 200 goddamn pages. how about you look t the actual exclusives and judge them directly instead of pulling a list of globally famous franchises which obviously will be made available on more than one platform so their devs will make more profit? the fucking disingenious arguments itt...

>>10462041
>the only exclusive in the top 12 is a ps2 game
ps2 really has stood the test of time

>>10461998
Raspberry Pi.

>>10462187
How the tides change

>>10462127
>will you kill yourself if I make this video

>>10461963
Why didn't you have PSX games anon?

>>10462187
What? Aren't all the Nintendo games on that list exclusives?

>>10462192
Thanks anon

>>10462378
They are also available on Wii or WiiU. They are not GameCube exclusives.

It probably did

what is 2nd place though

>>10462146
You’re a meth addict apologist

The PS2 really is the cornerstone of millenial religion, if you insult it even once you get someone crying out that you are a meth addicted schizo clone of some retard from VA

>>10462068
bitch ass move waiting for 10 (you)s to post something interesting

>>10462060
>but og PS2 is great quality
not the laser, which is what we're talking about, dumbass

And Jak II is still filtering n00bs to this day

>>10462060
Fat PS2 has more points of failure and a lot more moving parts. PS2 slim is one of the best console refreshes in history. It runs much cooler, has a faster ethernet port (12.5mbps speeds), is completely silent, has no fans (which can fail), no mechanical cd drive (which can fail), and an external PSU (easily replaceable). Early PS2s did have a significant failure rate, mine died in 2003.

Nothing wrong with the PS2 fat and I think it's still aesthetically superior, but this is loser nostalgia whining to say it is superior in any way mechanically to a slim.

>>10462068
I saw a video where someone proved that the gamecube was the sturdiest console of it's generation. I think it survived being ran over by a truck at one point.

>>10461968

>>10462895
That thing looks fucking sick

>>10462849
>died
Just because it couldn't read discs doesn't mean it died.
>2003
It was still basically new at that point in time.

>>10462096
my og one still runs to this day after many drops. just ignore the trolls, anon.

>>10462895
It looks like a folded assault rifle, based

>>10461923
>It's the best console.

>Games use interlaced field rendering

>>10461923
>It's the best console.

No, it's the best DVD player.

>>10462041
>No fifa
>no PES
>no colin mcrae
>no F1 2005
>no enthusia
>no Forza motorsport
>no project gotham racing 2
>No motogp 3
>no wrc extreme 2

awful and disgusting list

>>10461923
I have several PS2's and I have to keep retesting all of them because they seem to constantly stop reading either DVD's or CD's. It's really a good thing that you can mod these. Sony really didn't care about longevity with these systems.

>>10463268
Games can use any one of a large number of modes. Hundreds of games support progressive scan.

>>10464407
The boards are solid, I've never had one with a bad PSU either though I hear certain lots with certain PSUs can be a problem. All CD drives will fail sooner or later unless they're built like a tank, and the only console with a proper optical drive built for longevity are certain models of the CDi.

Everything else, without any exceptions whatsoever, used a flimsy plastic thin light mechanism where the only actual metal is perhaps a bit of rail for the optical sled, and the central spindle.

Only the high-end CDi's of all consoles will endure forever. They use the famous and indestructible, solid brass and steel, magnetic levitation Philips CDM mechanisms.

*EVERY* other optical-based console will wear out. And this extends to computer drives, home players, etc. too.

Pic related is a typical construction for any home console's optical drive. Some even omit the sheet metal chassis and opt for plastic throughout. Either way they've got nylon riding on steel and other nylon contacting less durable plastic gears. Complaining about this issue and saying it's particular to this or that console is henpecking at this point, and the PS2 never suffered any mass waves of RROD like SOME console makers. They're just toys that are wearing out.

>>10464607
The PS2's optics are far worse than your average CD-ROM / DVD-ROM. It's true that there are other optics known to be bad like any XBox's drive that's not a samsung. Playstation 1001's, but my 3DOs optics are strong. All my old computer CD-Roms are still going strong. My Saturns are strong. Even my PCE CDRom2 works great. The PS2 has a problem.

>>10464625
Those lasers were so defective I got a free game from Sony over it.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-settles-ps2-class-action-suit/1100-6139482/
I don't even remember which one though.

>>10464651
>The PS2's optics are far worse than your average CD-ROM / DVD-ROM.
No they weren't, it was the same mechanism as the first-gen mass market Sony DVD drives. Only a few manufacturers made DVD mechanisms, everybody else purchased theirs from one of the handful of mechanism makers and put them in their own products. To this day there is only one Blu-Ray mechanism manufacturer left, Samsung. Sony already stopped, they have enough warehoused for forever. Samsung halts production next year. Recently a company cloned the Philips CDM-1, but the bare mechanism is $1800. It's meant for high end CD players.

You will burn nothing.

>>10462078
You will never be a janny