/vr/ - Retro Games

Gunpei Yokoi did some really cool stuff. I wish his career hadn't crashed the way it did.

>>1044327
Yeah, didn't they just put him off to the side for coming up with Virtua Boy?
Imagine a world where he didn't make Nintendo's biggest flop.

>>1044331
well yokoi also invented the fucking gameboy, y'know
also I still feel nintendo made it look like an accident. Hiroshi Yamauchi is one yakuza motherfucker.

>>1044327

>>1044325
God, I miss that level of weirdness. It's fucking depressing how unique those games still are, all these years later. Can-can, weird hopping bug things, exploding turtles, sphinxes, jiang shi, and the first and only time Wario has been a boss in a Mario game, and he was gigantic and looked demented as fuck.

>tfw every Mario game from now on will look and sound like New Super Mario Bros until the end of time

Those were the only Mario games I played as a child. I had a GB Pocket but no Nintendo home console, so 'regular' Mario games just seem weird and cutesy to me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKAti96Ybjg

Does Wario have an origins story?

Last week I found my old gray box gameboy with SML2 in it. I started running through the game and, without conscious thought, my muscle memory guided me into several secret areas. Felt great to know that the knowledge was still in my head somewhere. It felt like I was meeting an old freind I hadn't seen in years.

>>1044387
Not officially. Nintendo Power comics introduced Wario as Mario's childhood friend who developed a complex from always losing to Mario in games of pretend.

My fanon is that they are cousins.

>>1044325
Thes games had some truly unique levels, bosses and enemies. I love the open world on Mario Land 2. I love how unlike in Mario World you had an open world where you could complete the zones in any order you pleased.

>>1044325
I always found SML2 to have a really fucking eerie feeling to it.
I recently played it again because I got it for free on the 3DS, and I still feel the same way.
Dunno why. Maybe it's the Totaka song or something.

>>1044393

SML2 is a great game but ridiculously easy

>>1044545
I'd agree, but for some reason those wind-up levels still give me some trouble. Everything else is a breeze.

sml2 is the best (mario) game
i love it from the bottom of my heart

>>1044354
Please, don't remind me that the height of Mario creativity was over 20 years ago. It still pains me to think about it.

>>1044393
You mean they aren't officially cousins?

>>1044354
and yet NSMBWii was the most fun game of all.

>>1044339
Funny you mention Yakuza. Yokoi and many other earlier Nintendo employees were often threatened by Japanese gangs in order to get free shit.
They never did, but still.

>SML sucks mad dick
>SML2 sucks slightly less, but still does
>SML3WL is my favourite of the wariolands and is 11/10

>>1044716
oh fuck SML3WL was one of my favourite games on the gameboy, it's such a big game, and awesome design
>Dat secret optional Ice world
>all those secret treasures

fuck that was an awesome game, probably the only one I ever completed 100% without any guides, just me and my brother

Much like with Link's Awakening vs. the 'Big' 2D Zeldas, Mario Land 2, for all its technical limitations, turned imagination (And a mild creep factor) up to 11, presumably because being a basically experimental title on the 'Small' console left the team with a great deal more of creativity than it'd otherwise get from Miyamoto & co., and consequently became a much better game for it.

Prolly the best 2D Mario, and with the exception of SMW2: Yoshi's Island, no other Mario game has shown anywhere near the same creativity.

OTOH, while SML 1 has some interesting ideas, by and large I'm kinda meh about it. Then again, suicide-bomber turtles... Would that kind of thing even fly today?

>>1044716
What are you, 15 years old?
Disregarding SML and SML2 as "sucks mad dick" is possibly one of the most puerile things that I have read on this board. What is it school holidays or something?
Jesus Christ.

>>1044763
Are you 60?

>>1044779
No, but I'm not a fucktard who dismisses great games as "sucking mad dick" because I don't personally like them or prefer others in the series.
Grow up sonny jim.

>>1044787
He's probably fron /v/. That's barely a half step above /b/. Give him a break.

>>1044792
You're giving /v/ too much credit, I'd place it below /b/.

What level in the SML games had the best music?

>>1045236
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-8VClCr_IU

I don't care for SML1. I played it once or twice, but the physics are too wonky and I can't get past some of the bizarre enemies.

Now, SML2 is much better. It has that offness, but it doesn't detract from the game and gives it that strangeness in a good way, as well as feeling like a Mario game.

>>1044354
If Luigi can remove the bucket, and Mario can move his body freely with it on, why can't Mario remove the bucket himself? Or, better yet, why can't the fairy remove the bucket for him at the start of the level?

>>1044613
>not newersmbwii
Pleb casual 0/10.

>>1044594
Not to my knowledge.

>>1045236
>>1045256
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0neYkiaO0M

Mario Land 2 is my favorite 2D Mario game. I don't even like the others that much (more of a Mega Man/Donkey Kong guy). But Land 2 is great.

I love Mario Land 2. I absolutely love the zone themes in the game: The space zone, the halloween zone, the micro zone, even the mario zone. I can't think of any other Mario game that had so many unique and fun levels.

I didn't play it until it was re-released as a player's choice title, and strangely, I found the local K-mart selling them for $5 right after it was just re-released.

Despite that, I have to say I don't think any other vidya commercial is as memorable to me as the one for ML2. Though Air Fortress and Super Mario Kart come close

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhB8XG9_5Rc

I finished the first and second game.

Second being my favorite, the first game had pretty bad graphics but I enjoyed the music, especially world 4's music.

>>1044515
Totaka is the master of riding the line between unsettling and catchy music. I don't think I've heard a single composition of his I didn't like

Super Mario Land 2 was so odd because the team working on it really wanted to make a different game but were forced to make it Mario

The slower pace and emphasis on exploration was the result, and so was Wario himself. Even though he was the villain, they literally came up with a fat shitty ugly Mario as a jab at being forced to make a Mario title.

Then they had the last laugh when Wario got his own spinoff, where he got to be even MORE slow and deliberate and explore even more in search of piles of treasure.

Best part about Wario Land 1 is how even the music emphasizes the whole thing. There's a vaguely Mario-game feel to it, but it's just off, the main theme sounds a little annoying and fat and plodding just like Wario himself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x5azjuDYPU

The majority of remixes of Gameboy tracks I hear have really poor instrument choices that usually remove the feel of the original entirely, taking away the eerie trills or jarring crunchy impact of the system's feel, but this is actually nice... Sounds like a proper update. If a bit sparse. Might actually need some more bass.

original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmD9WnLYR5I

>>1044325
mario land 1 was fucking hideous.
compare it to Metroid 2's design. I still love it because i grew up playing it, but damn.

>>1046642
Personally, the Luigi's Mansion one scares the shit out of me. Not so much the melody itself, but the tune that comes before it.

>>1044787

In his defense, SML1 does suck mad dick though.

>>1046863
>>>/b/

SML1 is not bad for what it is. An attempt to bring SMB1 to the Game Boy while still bringing some new stuff to the table.

What I like about it to this day is its tiny-ass sprites. Some Game Boy games try to cram sprites that are way too big on to that tiny screen and feel cramped and claustrophobic as a result. SML1 has sprites precisely big enough and detailed enough for you to quickly tell you what you need to know about what you're looking at, and no bigger.

>>1046645

The game's title in Japan even implies the "super mario land" title is secondary, the main game title in Japan is The 6 golden coins, while in america it was just a sub-title.
They used "Super Mario Land 2" in the same way they used SML3 on Wario Land, or SMW2 on Yoshi's Island... except this one was still a Mario game.

I remember playing it when I was 9. Bought my first gameboy with Morta Kombat 2 and this game. I already had a Game Gear with some Sonic games and other platformers, but SML2 blew my fucking mind away. It was the first handheld game to make me feel totally immersed in it. I guess it's because it had a save function, and lots of secrets to discover, all the other handheld games I had played before it were mainly games without save or too many secrets, just pure arcadey portable fun, but SML2 was like an actual, wacky SMW in handheld version, it really was great.

Sadly, I lost the gameboy and the games on the same trip I got them... fucking hated me for that, and I never played SML2 again ever since, I'm waiting to some day find a decently priced copy, or maybe I'll just end up emulatin it on some nostalgic night.

>>1048386

also note the "To Wario Land", which was removed from the american ver.

>>1048386
Yea, you cannot into Japanese or typography.

when i was a kid my older cousin gave me a Gameboy with super mario land 1

played the shit out of it