/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10422674
I remember spending an entire night playing the multiplayer with friends

It has the blue slut. Not worth playing.

>>10422674
The Howard the Duck redesign alone makes it shit

Literally WHY would they do this? Fox's design was perfect and iconic

>>10422674
Completely forgettable outside of the soundtrack and fur physics

Imagine how great this game would be with none of the on-foot sections. Shame..

>>10422674
Is okey

>>10422801
Imagine being a faggot like you.

>>10422720
It's a complete package, friend. The music complements the story and gives the gameplay more meaning than just "OMG GIANT MONKE HEAD ATTACKS!". It's a shame this game didn't sell very well and a proper sequel was never commissioned. You could do a lot with online multiplayer especially.

>>10422703
Shiggy wanted puppet aesthetic for Starfox.

>>10422696
this, bitch ruined starfox. Women should not be allowed, especially that furry bitch, you see what they did to her in the smash mods. It's all coomer shit, boys club only

>>10424426
That's cool. Doesn't explain the Howard the Duck head, though. Why are you people so obsessed with hating on Shigeru?

>>10422801
Rogue Squadron III also got ruined by on-foot sections.

How did two GameCube exclusive flight games get sucked in to on-foot nonsense

>>10422801
If you’re a purist, I understand not wanting them in the game but I thought they played pretty well. It was especially fun in multiplayer

>>10424857
The on-foot sections were the only interesting thing about Rogue Squadron 3 and probably what drove most of its sales.

>>10422674
Peak braindamage opinion, Go see a doctor

>>10422686
>>10423152
>>10424930
This, the multiplayer was the best part of this game.

>>10422674
Is this bait?

>>10424705
Miyamoto also wanted Samus to have a bug head in Metroid Prime. Following Miyamoto's suggestions and doing the right thing is something all Nintendo and Nintendo-affiliated employees have to deal with.

>>10424625
>you see what they did to her in the smash mods.
>he thinks anyone visits BrawlVault

>>10426783
So it still wasn't good?

>>10422674
The worst part is how extremely short it is. Multiplayer was fun though.

>>10422674
You seem like you enjoy pretending since you made this post

The Multiplayer was fun.

>Star Fox Assault remake with 15 new levels/maps and online
Praying the Switch 2 gonna have it
Would be so cash.

64 has a very narrow design philosophy where you tend only to be confronted with 1-5 targets at once in most levels, and they generally have set patterns. it does sound boring when i put it that way but enemies are at least active enough that you have to keep moving even after you have the game memorized, and there tend to be a lot of physical obstacles as well. it just feels good to play. in short, everything is orchestrated well and keeps you engaged. on top of that, the game is translated and voice acted/directed very well even though certain lines sound awkward with repetition or if you hear them out of context. everything about the music and sound is distinctive and perfectly accents the situation at hand

assault sets out to be flashy and it suffers as a result. the combat just makes you feel like you're a hot knife cutting through butter. enemies are lazy, so it doesn't matter that you have the most unsatisfyingly slow laser ever. the arwing levels are mostly in open space (i.e. few obstacles or terrain) with large-scale nonsense happening in the background to orchestral music so the player can pretend they're in furry star wars. the music otherwise often feels more just like smash bros. sound effects ripped straight from 64 or remixes of star fox-esque music occasionally pop up to remind you that you're in a star fox game because i certainly don't half the time, especially not with the lifeless voice acting even from the few returning cast members

worst of all, the story is sonic extended universe-tier and far too prominent, it makes the later mega man x games seem tasteful. they even preserved in translation that thing that makes me cringe where like, you know in sonic games how almost everyone is just mononymous except for "amy rose" and it sticks out like a sore thumb? why do they suddenly all call andrew "oikonny?"

>>10422686
Same

>>10426871
>Bug head
Do you mean he wanted her to be asian or he wanted her to have a literal insect head?

>>10422696
>>10424625
well in universe she's a shitty pilot. She took Slippy's place as a character to be mocked, and Slippy is at least skilled with a tank. They went all the way with it on Star Fox Command and everyone wanted her to fuck off.

>>10426871
>>10427273
From what I found Miyamoto was asking what if she had a bug's vision, which led to the different types of vision on the visor. Though it just reminded me of Predator desu

>>10427026
Good points

>>10422674
Was assault the game that caused the series to decline a first time?

>>10422686
>standing on the wing of your friends arwing ready to fire bazooka at opponent
Can it get any comfier than this?

>>10427754
Pretty much every game out there will do the trick unless you find comfort with mediocrity

>>10427026
>it makes the later mega man x games seem tasteful
There's nothing distasteful about how those handle story in the first place. The first few games barely had any story, so aside from the few times story is outright forced on the player (X5, X7) or when there's too much focus on Zero (X4, X5), those plots do their job at just being a reason to fight new bosses and visit unique locales, with some additional stuff sometimes.
You make good points about Assault, however.

>>10428189
I think he meant like several sonic games assault got too ambitious with its plot and increase the cool factor but ended up fumbling, making the story stupid and even even cringy at points.

>>10428609
just confirming that yeah, this is basically what i meant

>>10426965
Why would studio 2 and studio s ever work on star fox? Looking at the games they've worked on recently it seems even less likely Namco will do an assault remaster, let alone revisit star fox, before that announcement.

>>10429897
Because they're grunts and Nintendo is 100% not going to let Platinum touch Star Fox again.
also they worked on ARMS, which should be the last thing you expect them to work on.

>>10430243
>and Nintendo is 100% not going to let Platinum touch Star Fox again.
What made you come up with that inclusion

>>10430250
>inclusion
Conclusion

>>10428609
The only comparable Sonic game i could think of is every Sonic game after Unleashed

>>10430265
Sonic boom?

>>10430263
>>10430250
They've closely worked on the game's direction and dogfights and grunted with the assets for it.
Game ended up as dry cow shit and Nintendo hasn't face any rush to salvage the game, instead have them fund for a new IP and more Bayonetta.

Plus there's talks that they hired the Panzer Dragoon remake people to work on yet ANOTHER Star Fox remake.
I'm hoping it flops so they can get Studio 2/S to do a remaster or remake of Assault down the line or just a new (and actually new) Star Fox again.

>>10430317
I said every. Even Sonic Mania, the game existed just to be a prequel story to Forces. Without it is just nonsense.

>>10430324
Do you have proof a new star fox is being worked on?

>>10430324
Why would Nintendo work on remaking Assault if it was also a flop on gamecube?

>>10430348
Because GCN nostalgia is at an all time high
Also Namco/Nintendo recently ported over the Baiten Kaitos games recently

>>10422674

>>10430448
Real

>>10426965
It's just so funny of them to use the Xenoblade font for their Nintendo studios stuff, what could all this mean?

>>10422674
it’s so bad that it’s technically not even considered a shmup.

>>10430513
All-Range mode is the future of Star Fox

>>10427273
kek

>>10430441
How much longer until the nostalgia period dies down?

>>10430501
The font is called Helvetica Neue that's Bold and Italic. It is something you can find on your Microsoft word

>>10422674
>another game developed externally
>is another game that cannot be replicated

Damn, Sega and Namco really are the best at what they do.

>>10430759
SEGA mogged Nintendo do hard they could only do [game] 99 psuedo-romhacks and remasters for F-Zero

>>10430521
Agreed. Just as Mario evolved into Mario 64, or Legend of Zelda titles, or the odd transition of Metorid into the Prime series, the natural progression of Starfox was All Range Mode, free-flying.

Of course, just like the 2D mario/LoZ titles, and Metroid Dread, there would still be room for the classic on-rails shooter.

>>10430759
>>10430916
Is that true or cope? Where's rhe evidence?

>>10430972
They refuse to make another F-Zero and they have never tried to replicate or polish Assault's formula.

>>10431052
>They refuse to make another F-Zero
They made 2 more GBA games after GX
>and they have never tried to replicate or polish Assault's formula.
Because Assault was fundamentally flawed and not a very good title.

>>10431089
> Assault was fundamentally flawed
But one of it's bosses is in Zero, so it must be kino, huh?

>>10430972
GX's release stunlocked Nintendo's interest for years and some investor had to annoy them about it to put out some eshop title.

>>10431089
>They made 2 more GBA games after GX
Son, those are by external devs as well. Not Sega, but yeh. Also, GP Legend straight up takes after Sega's F-Zero GX/AX.

>Because Assault was fundamentally flawed and not a very good title.
I strongly disagree because I value a game when it has the foundation for an even better game over a game that plays it completely safe.

>>10431189
I want to make clear that the team behind F-Zero GX/AX were behind one of the later Outrun games and the Sonic & Sega All-Stars racing games.

>>10430243
>Nintendo is 100% not going to let Platinum touch Star Fox again.
>if they did, and had pic related didn't move back to Capcom, Krystal would 100% return
RIP Krystal

>>10431159
I need a source for that claim
>>10431189
Both f zero and star fox were reported to be financial disappointments and assault especially was met with mixed to negative reviews, with nearly all considering it worse than Star fox 64. It doesn't matter what you personally feel on the matter but rather how well the game ends up performing.

>>10431195
>the Sonic & Sega All-Stars racing games
No wonder why it's so good (aside the roster picks)

>>10431210
>I need a source for that claim
Are you showcasing some history denial, dude?
or do you believe Shitendo had any interest to bring it back, especially when F-Zero's own daddy left the company.

>>10431209
>Jordan Sweeto
How the fuck the character that appeals to straight males and 00s furries wounded up to the interests of some scenic fuckboy?

>>10431219
Then show me the history you're referring to. Not just typing what you believe but back it with evidence via a web link or some article from an interview.

>>10431245
This was common knowledge, either you do research yourself or stay a retarded tendie.

>>10424705
My only theory is because they're trans and Miyamoto reminds them of the stern but understanding and loving father figure they didn't have

>>10431717
Compounded by the fact that they grew up with Nintendo

>>10431370
>This was common knowledge, either you do research yourself or stay a retarded tendie.
If it is common knowledge then post a link to an article. For someone so confident in their belief this is true you sure are extremely reluctant posting anything supporting your supposed easy claim.

>>10427625
Adventure.
Assault redeemed the series.

>>10432109
>it is common knowledge then *i would do what every simpleton did and google it
FTFY
but if you seriously want to display your profound retardation, be our guest.

>>10432683
>last minute seller title ever
lol no

>>10432683
>Assault redeemed the series.
Tell me how assault, a game with a significant decrease in sales and critical reception from not only 64 but adventures, redeem the franchise?

>>10432731
I tried googling it and found no results. You claim is bullshit

>>10431219
>especially when F-Zero's own daddy left the company.
F zero 99 just released earlier this year

>>10431153
>But one of it's bosses is in Zero, so it must be kino, huh?
Which one is that?