/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10419904
Kibe of GCCX seems to appreciate it and is responsible for it being challenged for 24 hours, so it has my seal of approval.

The people who played it weren't fags who had to obsessively make the game they played part of their identity.

>cultural impact

>>10419914
Kibe is a good writer, and he seems to have good taste in games, but man is he an intolerable soiboi in front of the camera.

You already tried this one, get some new material or alternatively get a real hobby.

>>10419904
Hmm, why didn't people not care about an Amiga game, a platform famously known for being shit?

>>10419904
Sometimes lemmings can be found as easter eggs in older freeware games, so it looks that they at least had some underground impact.

>>10419904
It made DMA design very successful, and enabled them to go onto make Grand Theft Auto. Lemmings was popular in Europe. Not everyone sees the world through the eyes of burgers.

It's too bad. They're great games. I still play them. Most people don't really play older games unless it's advertised to them though.

>>10419995
this is sad.

>>10419967
>retarded bait thread about a game that was popular at the time and ported to everything
>anon comes in with the MUH AMIGA SUCKS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
What is genuinely wrong with the posters this past year? Why are they acting extra retarded?

>>10420014
rule change + /v/ tourists settling in. trust me, it's going to get way worse than this

>>10419904
>zero cultural impact
I'm not sure what this means.

>>10420070
soiboi youtubers aren't obsessing about it

>>10420063
every successive generation is more retarded than the last. opening up the board was a mistake.

>>10420070
It's a common OP shitposting tactic on /tv/. A variation on the now worn out
>*insert current year* I am forgotten
I believe the implication is that if no one is constantly talking or making references to *old thing* that it had no cultural impact, and that it is worthless in the mind of the original poster. An excuse to shit on *old thing* that that person apparently does not like and an invitation for other people to do so.
So in other words, Lemmings is shit, come in here and argue about it.

>>10419995
Lemmings 2: The Tribes is easily top 3 puzzle games.

>>10419904
Negative animal stereotyping.

>Has zero cultural impact WHATSOEVER
Basically invented a genre of game
Every game like it is called a "Lemmings clone"
Just because you don't know shit about it doesn't mean it's not relevant

>no marketing
>no shills
the tourist sees no reason to play it. it can only consume what it is told to consume.

Might as well just make this board Nintendo only at this point.

>>10419916
spbp

>>10420070
It's not endlessly wanked over like Nintendo games because non-Nintendo kids had more games to play growing up, thus they didn't brainwash themselves after decades of only playing Nintendo games.

The trendy retro gamer only cares about a couple of genres, like character based action games that they all call "platformers" regardless of whether there is platforming involved

There's this Lemmings statue in Dundee, I remember reading about it last year when the main programmer (I think) died, both my boomer teacher used to love the games.

>>10420158
But there's two pretty decent Lemming ports on the SNES, that would still allow discussion of the game.

>>10420212
>But there's two pretty decent Lemming ports on the SNES
Hell, Arino played it on stage.

>>10420212
Does it support the Mario Paint mouse?
If not, it's garbage.

>>10420245
It supports Lemmings 2. Still, SNES had the best console control scheme due to the shoulder buttons.

>>10420245
The Tribes did! I loved that one. The first one I never played but I think it's from before the thing existed.

It had plenty of impact in the few years when it was popular and relevant. Progressively forgettable sequels failed to maintain interest so the franchise faded into obscurity.
You may not have noticed, but most 30-40 year games that continue to be relevant are only so because they spawned franchises that have had successful installments in recent years and are being shilled decade after decade by large corporations like Nintendo so even zoomers have been exposed through marketing and re-releases.
Very very few games are like Pacman and Space Invaders where they continue to be famous by sheer virtue of being legendary classic games.

>>10420117
Yep. I always kept hoping Rockstar would do another one, if only out of vanity since they're so rich now. Puzzle games in general have become pretty niche though it's nice to see stuff like Baba Is You have some success.

>>10420285
They've become The GTA Company. Just not going to happen.

>>10419904
what the fuck would be the "cultural impact" of lemmings? you want people to start dying their hair green and dig holes in the ground?

>>10420283
Despite sharing a certain venerable status, even Ultima and Wizardry have succumbed to time and are met with blank stares.
Unless you have some modern marketing presence (be it current titles or iconography) it's difficult to maintain mindshare.

>>10420351
>Despite sharing a certain venerable status, even Ultima and Wizardry have succumbed to time and are met with blank stares.
Yes, because the vast majority of normalfags don't even know what an RPG is. At best you'll get "oh yeah, that Dungeons and Dragons shit, right?"

>>10419904
Used to play it as a kid but wasn't autistic enough to win a single level, weird game overall, i guess the gameplay is too niche

>>10420285
They'll have to get it off Sony since they own it now.

>>10419904
I played this so many fucking times on the SMS as a kid. The "Woah-ho!" when you start a level and the chiptune jingle when you complete a level are burned into my brain

>>10420338
Blowing yourself up took hold in the middle east I suppose

>>10419904
It didn't involve niggers shooting each other up and stealing cars like Grand Theft Auto.

>>10420580
Is this the greatest degeneration of all time? From high IQ European puzzles to nigger car stealing?

>>10420595
They're not even American, so you can't blame them for that. What happened to these retarded Brits to make them slaves for jewish funny vidya?

There was a Lemmings platformer. As far as PS1 games go, it's pretty alright. The graphics are probably the best thing about it though.

>>10420697
>The graphics are probably the best thing about it though.
Yeah, that's all you can say about it. But Lemmings are goyim, and these British retrads also became goyim.

Is there a reason you retarded Brits made a game about a (((perverted))) culture that isn't yours? Are you that deranged? Kill yourselves.

>>10419904
>>sells literally billions
why you always lyin cuh

No video game ever has had "cultural impact".

>>10420750
>actually we think we're smarter than you
Jimmy Saville and Churchill are demonic faggots

>>10420750
>a (((perverted))) culture that isn't yours
lemming culture?

>>10420779
No, just retarded Anglos who should be genocided. They just can't stop sucking jew dick.

>>10420769
i mean they likely are it's not exactly harder to be smarter than your typical thirdie channer especially when you're of the finest stock this world has ever seen.

>>10419904
>cultural impact
idk I'd say modern culture is heavily inspired by lemmings

>>10419904
Krustys Fun House = best version

>>10420768
Mortal Kombat had more than any jap game

>>10421414
Street Fighter had more than any (((western))) garbage.

>>10420697
Why the hell is this thing so expensive.

>>10421417
All retro games are, you stupid faggot.

>>10421419
No they aren't. At least.
They shouldn't be.
._.

>>10420212
The soundtrack of Lemmings was one of my all time favourite soundtracks on the snes. I could listen to that shit all day. I still have every single track burned into my memory. The snes port was always my favourite and I played lemmings on fucking everything.
https://youtu.be/R2LvxNyJsqg?si=QY2mpLU-Trj2Zfkz

>>10420203
Both the NES and SNES library are huge and diverse

>>10419923
Alex Kidd in miracle world had an impact on the culture.

>>10420158
>>10420203
>Lemmings literally on the SNES and Gameboy
Why can't you people do five seconds of research to not make yourselves look like spastics?

>>10420338

Where are the current Lemmings games? Last one was a dogshit mobile play-to-win slopfest.

Where are the Lemmings clones? Only one I can think of is that one on the Amiga with fish instead.

Where is the pre-school Lemmings Tribes cartoon made by Sony?

>>10420567
I fucking forgot about that you just warped me out of this bullet train to an office chair in California 30 years ago. Wild

>>10419904
>>10419904
wtf are you talking about?! Everyone loves Lemmings.

Do you think games like Angry Birds and shit like that didn't take any inspiration? Also pic related:

>>10421539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34i5LJmsuJs&t=795s&ab_channel=SuperJetSpade
>22:43
I could listen to it on a loop all day. In fact I essentially do, rent free just in my imagination

>zero cultural impact
Pic related is one of my characters and every week someone asks me if she is a lemming. Lemmings is that kind of game that nobody talks about, but remains in everyone's mind like a happy memory.

>>10419904
Lemmings' humour informed what would become Rockstar's brand of humour.

>>10420768
ff7

>>10421646
cute

>>10420768
There are multiple video game characters that have entered the public conscience through cartoons, movies, toys and various mediums outside of vidya and are recognisable to most people, even those who have never played a video game in their life; Pac Man, Mario, Sonic etcetera.
Using "cultural impact" as some kind of metric to judge a video game's worth is pretty fuckin retarded though.

>>10421429
Smile If You Love Lemmings is my favourite.
I wish there was a modern engine frontend for Lemmings and Lemmings 2, like a ScummVM for Lemmings so they're not lost.

>>10421646
super cute

>>10421514
I guess people know about the game but there's a limit to how far you can clone it, and usually that would entail a small game, aka. flash game or p2w.

That said, Pikmin?

>>10420070
>>10420115
>>10420203
It means when people asked a game director what influenced or inspired him, it gets named. Ask Gabe Newell about Half Life and you get Doom, Quake, GoldenEye (and Mario 64 of all things). For example of games with little sales and big influence, ask older JRPG directors and get hit with the Wizardry, or VN writers and Portopia Serial Killer. Not everything is about console warring.

>>10421757
It means influence OUTSIDE of the industry, ya dumb fuck.

>>10421757
>games with little sales
>Wizardry
anon...

>>10421757
Fogs and Wojacks do not belong on /vr/ you tourist.

>>10419904
Why do zoomers post things that are retarded and false?

>it had no cultural impact.... because i'm 20 years old!!!

>>10420212
The one on top is caked up ngl

>>10421646
Sexy

The OP may be a shitty bait post but there is a decent point to be made in there. Despite having an absurd amount of success and being ported to everything under the sun back in the day, Lemmings is basically forgotten and not much at all has really tried to take up the mantle so to say, despite being a clear and proven concept. The sequels are almost completely forgotten, so whenever someone's played Lemmings, it's almost always some old port of the first game.

It's very odd, as it's the perfect kind of game to take off on a mobile platform of some kind if executed correctly. I just now learned thanks to this thread that there's apparently some shitty P2W ad-ridden version of it and it's no wonder I've never heard of it until now if they did that to it.

>>10421986
I blame Sony for Lemmings fading into obscurity, they own it, but they haven't done anything with it in years.

>>10422008
A completely fair point honestly, they're sitting on a goldmine they're far too incompetent nowadays to take advantage of.

The PSP version was fucking fantastic and then nothing.

>>10421986
Mario vs Donkey Kong March of the Minis felt very Lemmings inspired.

>>10421446
Which was…?

>>10421443
>>10421513
Shame you ignored 95% of it to play bing bing wahoo exclusively

>>10422096
Not really.
People were probably ignoring Lemmings to play Super Metroid and Final Fantasy(among others), sure.

>>10419904

Nothing - it was just made by people who were interested in making software rather than building a franchise.

It was probably a missed opportunity.

>>10419904
it was a european game that was more popular in europe. I dont know why gamepro and CGM didnt lose their shit over it, but the company basically became rockstar later on and has way more success than anyone could have ever imagined. they dont think it be like that sometimes, but it do.

>>10421646
can... can I have sex with your OC?

>>10421646
I’m going to rape

>>10421786
says who

>>10421986
I think it also doesn't hold up that well. It's basically a real time with pause game with a lot of sluggish trial and error, all of which leads to lots of waiting. Rtwp makes games much more immediately accessible and portable across control schemes but caps skill hard. Imagine if Tetris had pausing

>ported to every console, system and handheld known to man
>sells literally billions
>game has zero cultural impact WHATSOEVER

>>10421646
Cute Lemming. I'll buy your game now.

>>10422095
small sample size and country specific (australia), but every normie who was conscious during the late 80's who i've mentioned Alex Kidd to recognised him.
it was bundled with every master system for a good few years in places where it was leading the console market.
passing familiarity is a lot more than what many better and more influential games got.

>>10421646
>That wide-eyed glance at the end followed by a wing flutter
cute AND kino

>>10419904
turns out the real lemmings were us all along.

>>10422318
This begs the question, what the actual fuck IS cultural impact; just being able to recall the thing in question?
Impacting popular culture by having a song, tv series, comic book or movie about it?
Is the fact that Lemmings did indeed sell billions an impact in itself?
Bubsy 3D is a notoriously bad game, most people have not played it but its reputation precedes it, is THAT a cultural impact?

>>10421514

>>10422370
Just played the genesis version of this after finding it in a thrift store, was a decent challenge.

>>10421514
>clones/inspired by
The humans (migger and 5 billion other systems)
Troddlers (migger, DOS and snes)
Creepers (DOS)
Diggers (migger)
Sink Or Swim (DOS/Migger, SNES, Genesis and GG)
Aardvark (love me migger)
Mario vs Donkey Kong series excluding the first entry (various Nintendo systems)

It goes on for a bit for Migger and other computers, but that type of game was a bit over done in the late 90s already. There's a few on the various 00s console/handheld hardwares too but that is also the era people who played lemmings grew into society's lemmings so it was a doomed genre. Mostly a computer thing, MvsDK simplifies it a bit.

>>10422590
There is also flockers by team17, but that is a lot more modern.

>>10421514
>>10422590
>>10422640
Lix is a really good free/open source lemmings clone.

https://www.lixgame.com/

>>10420768
If a video game character is known even by people who have never touched vidya I’d call that cultural impact

>>10422590
>people who played lemmings grew into society's lemmings so it was a doomed genre

>>10421646
I will now draw her.

>>10422730
We're rebels now, you wouldn't get it.

>>10419904
>zero cultural impact
someone look around and see if a parent is missing their child.

>>10422794
The implication is that you'd be all dead

>>10420212
lemming butt

>>10422308
Yeah, this should have been the OP image, I haven't heard anything of note about James Pond 2 besides the fact that it's ported to everything and conspiracy theories

>>10423220
That's Lamers, a lemmings clone where you kill them. I'm not lame though, so I can't be dead.

>>10422318
>Australia
>Alex Kidd
Do you think there was a single cunt down here that actually properly finished that game back then?

>>10420115
This time OP actually rises a question.

>>10420149
Why is Lemmings not marketed and not shilled?

>>10423520
Because Sony knows nobody's going to spend any money on 40 year old Amiga games.

>>10423268
One of my friends older brothers did. Up until I watched him do it I didn't think it was possible.

>>10419987
>Not everyone sees the world through the eyes of burgers.

Feel sorry for you desu

I notice that those early high paced puzzle action games have in general went into obscurity as a genre. Name modern follow ups to these games
>Solomon's Key
>DK Jr.
>Bubble Bobble
>Wrecking Crew
>Lode Runner
>Balloon Fight
>Pac-Man
>The Incredible Machine (that's hardly an action puzzle but still)
Hell even Tetris, Bomberman and Puyo Puyo 2, probably the biggest "action puzzle" games from that era, were never really improved upon. They just keep rereleasing them as is, and all changes to the formula seem superficial.

OK fuckwad troll wasteoid.

>>10419904
Idk man. Lemmings 3D on the PSX was my first taste of Lemmings and I thoroughly enjoyed it. They were big enough to collab with JellyBelly in the 90’s, soooo idk OP

>>10423927
>no Mole Mania
Blasphemy. Ironically, that was probably the last hurrah for the genre.

>>10423927
Mario vs donkey Kong minis series is a lemmings style game, which sucks because OG Mario vs donkey Kong on GBA was the perfect mix of DK 94 and lemmings.

>>10423927
Most of those aren't really puzzles. If Pac-Man's a puzzle game, so is wolf 3d

>>10419904
>>10420338
>Game is about green haired freaks mindlessly following the herd, even into committing suicide
idk I think it had a lot of cultural impact on about 41% of the population

>>10424519
>tfw the myth about lemmings isn't the actual animal, but the humans who engender their behavior
Wow... Ratbros...

>>10420768
Pacman had cereal, bed sheets, record where he sang in multiple volumes, and Christmas specials. People dressed like him for Halloween. Your grandparents would recognize him from a description.

You must be young or retarded to not know this.

>>10419916
Yep, we just played it and loved it and moved on.

>>10424765
Funny how GTAfags are the complete opposite.

>>10421415
You are incorrect, and clearly from a country that doesn't matter.

What was the last Lemmings game, when was it released?

>>10422150
That would be difficult anon, she is very very tiny.

>>10422314
Thanks! My other characters aren't very lemming-y though.

>>10422743
If you did draw her, I would love to see it.

>>10425367
I'm not sure what I'm looking at but this game looks based as fuck.

>>10421646
She looks a bit mischievous....

What the hell happened with lemmings 3?

>>10419914
>>10419954
Who of what the fuck now? Can you zoomers go 2 minutes without talking about some e-celeb?

>>10420212
Why does everything in Scotland look so fucking bleak and soulless

Western society became a bunch of lemmings
I'd say that's a pretty big impact

>>10419987
We whupped Australia's ass in the war and we'll do it again.

But everyone loves lemmings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA5DfsmuVag

>>10425395
>e-celeb
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GameCenter_CX

>>10419904
>game has zero cultural impact WHATSOEVER
zoom zoom

>>10422118
ahem

>>10425367
This looks nice. I think your game will do good Anon.

>>10420212
Isn't this one of the worst cities in Scotland or something? Basically the San Francisco equivalent

You're a fool OP.

I used to love this game when I was a kid. I will play it tonight to thwart the retarded zoomer desires of the OP.

>>10419904
Nothing went wrong, it sold billions (being released on every platform that ever existed helped) and had a big cultural impact.

>>10426998
No that'd be Glasgow or Edinburgh

The problem with Lemmings it it needs a mouse to be played properly, and everything now either must be console-first or for mobile.
The abysmal recent mobile game accepted this reality by basically splitting the play area into a grid as the player will never have the precision needed on a touch screen to play, and the game was pointless as a result.

>>10428440
We need a new Lemmings to save the Computer Gaming industry.

>>10419904
a Lemmings type game came on steam recently called Moons of Darsilon or something like that. cool graphically but idk, i prefer regular old lemmings. It has had more than zero cultural impact by that game alone. crazy that in 2023 we got a Lemmingslike

For me it's SUPERLEM

>>10419904
Sony bought them and made shitty phone games but on the PSP and Vita.

It was too fucking hard. Fuck that dogfood factory level.

>>10425395
Lurk 15 more years before posting

>>10426998
I live in Dundee. It has a disproportionately large drug problem and at one time had the higest rate of drug-related deaths in Europe. As bad as that sounds, it's a pretty boring, dreary, and uneventful place for the most part. I don't feel unsafe walking the streets. The worst thing about Dundee is its provincial, backwards-looking mindset and its lack of any worthwhile culture. The fact that GTA started here is probably the only cool thing about the town. Well, Mary Shelley once live here, hundreds of years ago, so there's that too.

>>10419904
The real lemmings are the lemmings we made along the way.

Troddlers was here.

Lemmings is a loser.

>>10419904
So it just remained a game beloved by many and not turned into a cartoon, movie, or cross genre title? (Lemmings Racer, Lemmings Puzzle Blocks, Fist of the Lemming)

Good for it.

Though plushes are cute.

>>10432043
I wish I had a Lemmings Plushie.

>>10421757
>Ask Hentai Novel game director what inspired him
>Oh! Lemmings!

>>10421429
Good man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-uLl_GfLvc

>>10420567
>"Woah-ho!"
>At start of level
It's a poor sound font of "Let's Go!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX_AqYy2LbI

>>10419904
I love Lemmings' BGM.

>>10421429
I'm glad you enjoyed the soundtrack; I did, too.
I want to be sure, though: you do know that most of the tracks are not "original" music pieces, right? Some are, but most are mostly chiptune/campy sampling of copyrighted massive historically famous compositions, like
>Offenbach's "Orpheus in the Underworld" (Can-Can)
> "Rondo alla Turca" from Mozart's Piano Sonata No. 11
>"Dance of the Reed Flutes" from Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker Suite
>"Dance of the Little Swans" from Tchaikovsky's Swan Lake
>"Ten Green Bottles" folksongs
>Chopin's Piano Sonata No. 2 (funeral march)
>Wagner's "Bridal Chorus"
>"London Bridge is Falling Down"
>"Forest Green" (adapted into the hymn "All Beautiful the March of Days")
>"O Little Town of Bethlehem"
>the melody from the film The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
>"She'll Be Coming 'Round the Mountain"
>"(How Much Is) That Doggie in the Window?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quxTnEEETbo

>>10421429
any love for the genesis/mega drive version? It's what I grew up on, and I love it. But I love the snes one too.

>>10432595
The game's original soundtrack was covers of TV theme tunes, things like the Addam's Family and the A-Team. Psygnosis had to scrap most of it and get in Tim Wright at the last minute to add a load of new tunes as a result. The only ones left from the original soundtrack were the ones listed as they weren't copyrighted.

>>10425395
>e-celeb
It's a television show, he's an actual celebrity

>>10433373
nah he's just another angry game nerd wannabe

>>10433607
Huh? Arino is a Japanese comedian and actor with a career before he began doing Game Center CX. Hell, GCCX began in like 2005 on TV if memory serves, there was still no AVGN template. The TV show was just a "can this grown man beat a game from 20 years ago in 24 hours" with Japanese tourism segments spliced in. He doesn't even review the games.

>>10421646
Going to fuck that Lemming whore

>>10419904
Does he look familiar to you?

>>10434160
No... NO!
JOKER IS NOT A LEMMING!
H-he can't be.
The Lemmings would never... Never...
But maybe, maybe thats what happened. His game glitched and it resulted in him going insane.

>>10420014
I wanna know why every damn thread is console war shit now. I know /vr/ was only ever free of console war faggotry for the first few months of its existence, but it's gotten so much worse in the past year. I thought the further away we got from the era of these games the less people would care about this pointless shit, but it just keeps getting worse.
Why do zoomers who weren't even alive at the time care so much about Nintendo vs Sega shitflinging now? Their first console was probably a PS2 or Xbox 360 for fucks sake.

>>10434498
>bemoans the state of consolewarfaggotry in /vr/
>engages in in generationwarfaggotry

You're not helping homie

>>10419967
>Amiga
>a platform famously known for being shit
The Amiga failed and was inferior to PC but that absolutely wasn't the prevailing sentiment at the time. It was the more widespread platform for gaming for a while and a lot of titles were Amiga first then ported to DOS/consoles.

>>10434706
I wish the Amiga had kept going.

>>10419904
>cultural impact
>a video game
absolute loser

The whole, caring about "cultural impact" thing feels like such a new phenomena. I think it must come from the younger generation who grew up online. They must think: clicks/comments/likes/subscriptions = true value. As if something is only good if it is popular.

Imagine a dozen or so of those lemmings climbing on ya dick lol

>>10437553
Damn.. they got stuck on some anon's dick again...