/vr/ - Retro Games

Around 2080
You got a good 57 years to save up, emulate, or buy a mister

>>10408883
Do you really need the case to dust off?
Don't get me wrong i love my collection but i wouldnt pay that kind of money just to add a game to it decades later unless it was something i loved, but i own everything i love already.

>>10408883
Who cares? It’s 2023 you have access to everything without having to hoard old garbage.

Around 2080 when the millennial hoarders all die and Gen-whatever doesn't care about nearly 100yo games
You got a good 57 years to save up, emulate, or buy a mister

>>10408883
Never. There too many nostalgia-faggots that severely overvalue this shit.
If you're waiting for it to burst, you should buy flashcarts/odes if you have the hardware and emulate for anything you don't have instead.

>>10408883
Any Day Now™

>>10408883
The Saturn market will never burst. It's pretty much hit Neo Geo AES levels at this point.

Just start using backups or buy the Japanese versions I guess

Stop being poor

>>10408883
I got a saturn with fenrir ODE installed because as much as I love collecting shit is too pricey these days and I just spent over $150 on a pristine copy of GitS for PS1

>>10408883
>scarce collectibles that get scarcer because they break easily in a popular hobby that's expanding all the time
Why would prices ever fall? They're not gonna "come out" with more retro consoles.

Any minute now! Any minute!

>>10408909
this is laughable because its zoomers buying this shit and complaining about the prices they have to pay

>>10409008
maybe if amerisharts would take care of the shit they own instead of throwing it on the floor for their dog to chew on after they step on it in the dark and roll over it with their gamer chair and spill dr pepper all over it and drop lasagna on the manual there wouldnt be a problem. there's a reason japanese games are so much cheaper.

>>10408883
keep waiting buddy

>>10409086
nice wojak bro, take my upvote

Lol @ all these losers on here mad normies got into their persona creating hobby.

>>10408950
I'm not poor, I want to free myself of this crap but I dont want to throw away the hot potato too soon

You see this in the rare books market too. Retarded collectors who think their forgotten junk is worth 1000x the original sale price new. Like other people are saying it probably won't since they've got no disincentive to ever drop the price or treat it like a real commodity.

Collectors are cancer. I had a friend who bought hundreds of snes/nes games growing up and yet he only ever played maybe 10-15% of what he owns. Keeps insisting he's sitting on a multi-thousand dollar stockpile when it's evident he'd be an idiot to sell. Stupid conspicuous consumption like collecting boy scout badges

STOP INFLATING THE PRICES, GOD DAMN MOTHERFUCKERS, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Better to buy now when PS1 and PS2 games are like $200 than in a year or two when they are $400.

>>10409076
Seething euro, get a job

>>10409236
As much as this board criticizes normies for being NPCs their only “personality trait” is playing retro games, so they’re having an existential crisis about their sekrit club

Just emulate, flash cart, FPGA faggots

>>10409387
>people on the retro game board only talk about retro games
>this means they have nothing else going on in their lives
The fuck are you smoking?
>those boring McDonald's workers always be like "you want fries with that" like get a life nigga, get some hobbies

>>10409416
Fucking kekjed

>>10409059
Zoomer are not the ones buying up nes/pc-engine games. They just buy what is nostalgic to them which is gamecube, gba or p2.

>>10409416
It’s not that they play retro games you disingenuous fag, it’s that they get upset that “normies” care about retro games now. It’s even dumber to talk about because what would you even do to stop normies from ruining the hobby? What’s done is done, you can’t poison pill retro games so that they load up Mario 64 and it evaporates all the Onions in their fridge, there’s nothing we can do about it. The cat is forever out of the bag.

>>10409076
>>10409387

>900$ for rotting Saturn discs
just buy a Satiator, you faggot consoomer

>>10409428
Discs don't rot, you faggot trooner

>>10408883
Apparently, it's bursting right now

>>10409428
$200 worthless peripheral just emulate you faggot consoomer

>>10409437
Saturn emulation sucks

>>10409430
Anon disc rot is 100% real. There's a million YouTube videos that prove as much.

>>10409472
>suddenly believes YouTubers
Okay, link me, shill.

>>10409475
>spoonfeed me PLEASE!

No.

>>10409480
>I- I have no evidence, JUST TRUST ME BRO
I'll be enjoying my hundreds of perfectly functional 40 year old discs. c:

>>10409489
How many 40 year old discs do you have? Oh 0? Ok....

>>10409491
Anom, it's not hard to go to a thrift store and find mountains of old media such as CDs, DVDs, VHSes, Betamax, laserdisc, vinyls, and cassettes, for cheap. CDs have been around since the 70s.

>>10409505
>CDs have been around since the 70s.

>>10409505
Thrift stores got wise to that shit my dude. Everybody has the internet, anything that has any value gets flogged on ebay pretty much immediately. At best you're getting parity pricing on anything worthwhile.

>>10409514
u rite, my bad, it was actually 60s

https://history-computer.com/compact-disc/

>>10409519
>fake news

>>10409516
Bro. Not everyone lives in the same place. I have a recycled books store near me that has so much shit they can't get rid of it's all affordable. Sorry you're getting exploited. Picked up Street Fighter II VHS for like $2 the other week.

>>10409524
>heh, chud, I don't know how to read anyway >:)

>>10409505
Not every disc is made equal.
Sega Saturn discs were especially poorly produced where lots of contaminants was allowed to get between the disc layers.

>>10409575
Same thing for Sega CD games btw.

Those collections with be ash within the century.

>>10409575
Well that is a reasonable statement to make, I wasn't aware of that. Is there anywhere I can read more on that, or do you have any more info/background? Would be interested.

>>10409583
:c

>>10409472
>Anon disc rot is 100% real.

>>10409950
If only every anon here would read that. Sad. Many such cases. Millions on YouTube.

>>10409575
>Sega Saturn discs were especially poorly produced where lots of contaminants
Source?

>didn’t even know Capcom made a fuck ton of Megaman titles for Sega systems till OP made this faggot ass thread
holy shit

>>10409974
Capcom and Konami were huge powerhouse allies with Sega.

>>10409059
Zoomers buying this shit and cursing at landlords because they can’t afford rent.

>>10408883
https://archive.org/details/primal-rage-the-avatars-2023-10-29-scan

>>10410000

>>10408883
Get a job, loser.

>>10409987
Rent, food, gas etc is still overly expensive schlomo, you trying to pin retro game prices to it isn’t fooling anyone

>>10410004
An Anon uploaded their scan of that a while back. https://archive.org/details/primal-rage-the-avatars-2023-10-29-scan

>>10408883
Approximately 20 minutes after you stop caring

>>10409423
They absolutely are.

>>10409452
Very cool time traveler, now go back to 2005.

>>10408883
make a dummy disc+box, smash it and take a photo for ebay return support. report it as "insufficient packaging protection by the seller". you will win the case and get a full refund + a $900 game for free

(Do not report this post. It's not a troll or larp.)
A couple years ago, I got an idea when a discord friend was talking about wanting to play a physical copy of Chrono Trigger and cussing out collectorfags.
Since it sounded important to him, I offered to sell him my copy (my shit just takes up space, and I'm fine with the PSX port) provided he keeps it out of the collector's market forever. And that there was only way I could be sure of that.
I told him that I would scrawl the word NIGGER down the front of the cartridge in sharpie. Replacing the label or repainting the cart isn't something collectorfags and shops do. This way I'd be assured he wanted the game strictly to play it and not to appreciate in value.
He agreed and I mailed him the defaced cart after receiving 40 bux plus shipping. My one regret is I didn't tear the label a bit to make a legible "Chrono NIGGER". But as far as I know, he still has the game and couldn't sell it if he wanted to.
Thinking back, I may have been onto something. There could be an actual network for jaded retrobros willing to unload their unwanted games to actual players. I'd scrawl racial slurs on all of my games if they were being sent to good hands.

>>10410451
Reminds me, I should start tearing the component/SCART connectors out of CRT's so they don't end up in the hands of scalpers

>>10410924
What the fuyck, delete this

>>10408883
I'm pretty sure it already has, anyone with interest in actually playing older games just emulates them now.
personally i do enjoy collecting older media surrounding video games like art books, old game store advertisements etc.
i feel like you can realistically have one expensive collecting based hobby and not be a s0iboy still.

>>10410925
If you don't like composite, you don't like CRT's. Simple as.

>>10408883
anons I'm new here but have been a retro gamer for awhile but I it's like your speaking a different language
flashcart? oed?.backups?.AES? I just wanna play old games and grill for fucks sake

>>10410956
Flashcart = Flash cartridge. Multiple games flashed onto one cartridge.
ODE = Optical drive emulator. Something you can replace your disc-based system drive with.
Backups = ROMs/ISOs
AES = Neo Geo Advanced Entertainment System. It was the consolized version of the Neo Geo arcade system. You could buy this for home use and it played cartridges.

>>10410956
https://playclassic.games/games/snes-games/

Now begone, lumox

>>10410965
>Multiple games flashed onto one cartridge
More specifically you put games on an SD card and put the SD card in the flashcart. Similar deal for ODEs

>>10409423
A poorfag zoomie projects
>>10409491
>first CD released 41 years ago
>h-h-how many 40 year old discs do you have?
You sure showed him zoom zoom

>>10410956
Describe exactly what it is you want to do, and we'll provide the most efficient solution. What kind of games? Console? Arcade? Any systems in mind? If you just want "all games," of course it's going to be confusing, you need a goal in mind.

>>10408883
When our generation starts to die off.

>>10409387
Enjoy your shitty pal versions of games.

>>10410929
Fucking horseshit.
I liked arcade game monitors and computer monitors and always hated composhit, but just lived with it for my game consoles because I didn't know better.
Aside from the trotted out examples where devs seemed to plan for the shittiness of composite, you have no argument except nostalgia.
You are a faggot.

>>10411605
based
i lived through starting on rf, going to composite, then svid to component
i have 2 rgb monitors and dont ever think about composite anymore outside of novelty, when i got my ps2 i wanted the component cables for my wega back in 2003 because i wanted a better picture quality, not a fucking worse one

i feel like the composite = best fags are just retarded zoomers who never lived through the era

>>10411605
If you want sharp pixels use your flatscreen. I'll be tearing out these connectors at once

Don't worry, I saw a YouTube video about how a the same copy of a Mario game that literally sold for millions got re-listed and "only" went for a few hundred thousand the next time! So clearly the bubble has burst! Hurray!

>>10411623
i wish i was the kike that thought up game grading, what a fucking scam

>>10408883
Damn,son. I got this for free along with a bunch of other games with my Saturn i got for 20 burgerbux.

>>10408883
Explain to me why I should play the Saturn version of 8 over the PS1 ver besides halfassed Cut Man and Wood Man fights

I could see a panic crash for disc-based consoles if disc rot becomes a real and pervasive issue, but I don't think quality control was so universally bad that we'd see something like that.

But in general, owning the game is not required to play the game. People buy them when they think the price reflects the value of owning the physical object. If you DON'T see that value, then you can and should just emulate or use a flash cart.

>>10411698
>But in general, owning the game is not required to play the game. People buy them when they think the price reflects the value of owning the physical object. If you DON'T see that value, then you can and should just emulate or use a flash cart.
This. I buy games and I emulate both, but outside of truly stupid shit like paying a grand for a single game entombed in acryllic, I respect people who have games they either like or are interested in enough to purchase. I've spent a reasonable amount this year on used games, including two grails that I've wanted for a long time and managed to get respectively cheap copies of.

tl;dr
Play games or emulate or buy - do whatever you want, just try not to be a stupid cunt and stir shit up if you disagree with others choices. Unless those choices involve buying graded games or sealed games that shit on a shelf and are never played.

>>10410924
>>10410929
>>10411621
You're no better than the scalpers you detest. In fact, you're worse. At least scalpers sell an intact product.

>>10411717
>falling for bait
NGMI

>>10411720
step on a lego.

>>10408883
The trick is to buy slightly obscure games that will inevitably get blown up by some youtuber before it's too late. I recommend Shadow of Destiny it's still fairly cheap and I guarantee within this decade it's going to surge in price after someone big covers it.

>>10409236
Normies are not the ones collecting 20-40 year old plastic that won't even plug into their Super Omega 8K 600hz HDR OLED TV anymore, they are the ones who are paying a hundred dollars for an emulation box that they saw at Walmart or Amazon which is just a $20 chinkbox from Aliexpress marked up for idiots who don't know better that comes pre-loaded with games. Or the ones paying for NSO on their Switch just to play said 20-40 year old games.

The collectors, especially the ones paying thousands for the rotting polymers to plug into their re-capped consoles connected to a CRT taken out of a hospital or movie studio are the super-obsessed autists.

>>10408909
A lot sooner than that. If the economy actually recovers for the lower and middle classes(xfd), Millennials will be buying homes and starting families. A lot will dump the games they own, and the demand side will dry up, as Zoomers won't have the nostalgia for our games.
Though it's an incredible expectation for the lower and middle class lives to improve, since we've only been getting worse.

>>10409281
Do better gatekeeping. Convince the retro yotube channels to die, and destroy the retro subreddits, and /vr/. Along with all the collector/speculator websites that track pricing.

>>10411717
>In fact, you're worse
For lowering the inflated value of a product (that the seller always acquires for free lol) and instead getting it in the hands of people who actually have a use case for it?

>>10409475
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ayhqmb0d-9E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhpCy170oXo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0UdR6CD_n4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcn906wqjSI

>>10409519
>wastes time looking up cd history
>refuses to type Saturn Disc Rot into yt
Go fuck yourself.

>>10411831
Yes. They don't make CRTs anymore and you're destroying part of them.

>>10411852
And I don't like how that part of them has affected the market for CRT's. If you want your fancy ports then continue paying the dickhead premium prices.

>>10410973
>More specifically you put games on an SD card and put the SD card in the flashcart. Similar deal for ODEs

Depends on the cart, some of the earlier/cheaper ones, or ones for very old systems, had to be flashed with a game and just directly booted into that one game with no menu. Changing games meant having to re-flash it. The latest example of something like that I can think of is the 3-in-1 GBA cart. While it was meant to be used as a companion to DS flashcarts on a DS, you could still flash a single GBA game to it with a DS and then play it on a GBA.

I guess one advantage of such a cart was that it appears as the actual game to anything you plug it into for anything that could link up with a GBA game, so you would for example be able to import pokemon from a GBA title to a DS one as if it was a real GBA Pokemon cart.

>>10411861
I'd much rather do that than support your misguided vendetta.

>>10411871
Then there is no harm; you will maintain the current bubble and I will throw away sets to people who actually like playing games

>>10411874
Some of those people might want to upgrade to sets that have their ports intact. You're just destroying history because you have a hate boner for people who can appreciate it.

>>10411876
>might want to upgrade
Then they can do what you do and condone a bubble by paying retarded prices

>>10411868
There were standalone GBA flash cards even back in the day - the M3 and SuperCard were probably the best ones but they were quite expensive at around $40-$60 in 2005/2006 iirc. And you usually could only order them from shady Chinese online retailers.

They also had some compatibility problems. A few games never worked and most games you wanted to patch them before putting them on the card. Flash memory had subtle differences in access speed back then that fucked up GBA games.

I owned a SuperCard for GBA myself

>>10411879
You're gonna make the bubble worse then by driving up the price of intact CRTs. How do you feel about that? If you take satisfaction in that, then go fuck yourself.

>>10411883
The bubble for component/SCART sets? Not my problem as I only care about composite lol

>>10411889
You care enough to mutilate TVs that aren't being manufactured anymore to try and make a point. If you truly "didn't care", you'd just play some games on one over a composite connection and call it a day.

>>10411892
It's actually a very caring effort since it gets more composite-ready sets out there for people who actually want to play games. Due to the fucked up CRT market I had to be really patient to get my current set, and I wouldn't want other honest players to have to wait like I did. We all know RGBfags don't actually like playing games as they're the audiophiles of gaming, and they'll be happy to paypig for SCART no matter how expensive because consoomers are price-inelastic. I have no business sympathising with such people, so you would have to convince me that this is somehow bad for composite users.

>>10411914
>I had to be really patient to get my current set
In fact, I had to get it from another city.

>>10411914
I'm done arguing. Don't electrocute yourself while working on one.

>>10410451
I would absolutely take a bunch of defaced nigger carts for just-to-play use. I usually just get the worst condition carts if multiple are for sale for that reason and if the price drop is a noticeable amount, plus those carts no one wants gets to be reused atleast.

>>10410965
Flashcart = Generic term children use for pretty much any reprogrammable cartridge emulator
>>10410973
>More specifically
No. One type of something is not "more specifically" the thing it's a type of. Birds are not "more specifically" penguins.
>>10411087
That started even before you started gulping tidepods

>>10411698
Disc rot scare was a meme from people living in sweltering shithole lands and some retard poking their head on a laserdisc forum + misidentified actual physical top damage to discs as "rot".

>>10410924
I'm only using that component for 6th and 7th gen man, this thing has S-video and I don't use it.

>>10411784
What year do you think it presently is? People too broke for kids are not the ones driving a collector market anyways.

>>10411621
CRTs have many other benefits that I will enjoy with the highest quality signals possible.
If you actually go through with your little fantasy scheme, my hat goes off to the guy that gets a CRT from you, solders on a new connector and flips the set for massive profits.

>>10410451
Good plan, niggers stop me from buying retro games, especially when I see their brown hand in the ebay picture.

>>10410451
>I didn't tear the label a bit to make a legible "Chrono NIGGER"
You're an absolute failure. Might as well an hero.

>>10411715
Disc rot isn't real.

>>10411698
>>10411839
Disc rot isn't real

>>10408883
Collecting game cartridges I can understand, but optical discs? They are so fragile and flimsy and you can just burn them on your computer.

>>10411027
>A poorfag zoomie projects
Explain please I can aford famicom games fine I just import a 6-12 games a month for 100 to 200.

>>10411775
what else, dude?...

>>10412432
Old carts can be pretty frail too. I've had famicom games crack on me in the mail as ewell as those disc pegs inside of duel cases for the saturn

>>10408883
just pirate everything; sega saturn mod is 1 wire

>>10408883
When boomllennials run out of disposable income.

>>10411852
>>10411831
>>10411717
>>10410924
What countries are you from where there's "CRT scalpers"? Where I'm from you get everything that isnt a studio monitor either for free or for below 10 bux.

>>10411679
Saturn has a better controller. I played mega man 8 on my Saturn just this year, with the help of a psk cart and a cdr of course.

Im loaning this thread to ask a question. Is there somekind of wiki/library that would show the official releases of games? I am looking to buy SNES games but I don't want a repro game. I want the real deal but I don't know what the official carts look like for some of the games

>>10410451
That's way too much work humoring some retard that needs to play on AUTHENTIC ROM for some reason. It's not like it has some enhancement chip

>>10413030
In Brisbane you can pay $100 for a mono composite-only piece of shit

>>10413156
>australia
There's a reason they shipped your ancestors off to nigger island.
But you guys scalping each other for what is considered junk in the rest of the world doesn't count.
In europe you can get mid 90s trinitron for free.
If you throw tantrums about people "scalping" crt make sure to add the disclaimer that youre ausfalian.

>>10413192
I always hear yanks complain about scalpers though. I guess there's no room for scalping in Europe when your 3x3 metre apartment prevents you from having any inventory

>>10413217
People in europe scalp different stuff. There's a bunch of mentally ill hoarders in germany buying up every retro game on european ebay below a certain price thershold only to re-list them for 10x the price after having scalped them.
But since germany is huge and most german families had several tv sets over the last 50 years there's hundereds of thousands of used CRT flying around that nobody wants or needs, so you tend to get them really cheap. Even rare ones like late era widescreen CRT.
To normies that stuff is junk and for some reason most german retro gamers would rather buy a $200 frame meister to hook their retro consoles to a shitty subpar LCD screen than to drive 10 minutes to get a free CRT.

>>10413145
>That's way too much work
People do it on bathroom stalls for free. I don't think it's too much to ask.

>>10413246
since after the 10 min drive that TV doesn't survived it and I can drive it right back and get my money back but wait a sec...

>>10408883
Never. Production will never resume for old games. They are finite and slowly degrading and being destroyed over time, as well as being added to the collections of people with no intent to sell them.

>>10413450
And also resellers buying hundreds of copies to hike up the price.

>>10413480
The over-saturation of retro gaming content creators on YouTube looking for the next obscure title to cover, thus creating a frenzy. Adding to an already overly-inflated bubble.

>>10413446
Recently I got an old korean crt for free from some farm close to my place. Thought I had it secured firmly but it totally fell over at a speedbump.
Still works fine though.

>>10413450
>Never. Production will never resume for old games.
Disagree. Chances are always increasing these days that new production runs will come out since there seems to be a trend towards returning to physical, even if it's only a niche. Massive corporations agreeing to start reprinting vinyl wholesale in retail locations is something people would say would never happen again. Does that mean it'll happen for us? Maybe not. But I longer believe it's impossible.

>>10413878
Nintendo is never going to reprint SNES carts. Sony is never going to reprint PSX discs. Big companies don't want you to own anything. That "trend" is only small indie companies relying on nostalgia and novelty to make a few extra sales.
And even if by some miracle this all changed, there would still be completely different markets for "new" versions and originals. Next you might say:
>but who cares if it's original or not as long as it's playable?
If you don't care you just emulate or use an everdrive. People interested in collecting old games and systems now will still prefer the originals over reprints, and those prices will not change.

>Massive corporations agreeing to start reprinting vinyl wholesale in retail locations is something people would say would never happen again.
Completely different industries, and retro/physical obsession has been a part of gaming for longer than music.

>>10413893
>If you don't care you just emulate or use an everdrive. People interested in collecting old games and systems now will still prefer the originals over reprints, and those prices will not change.
I mean, you can say all the same arguments about music. All the people listening to Spotify and streaming are also the ones buying vinyl too, I don't think people are married to one idea or the other, people like to have options. I think if someone did, it doesn't have to be Nintendo, it would sell well because there clearly is a demand there.

>>10408883
LOL I sold megaman x4-x5-x6 for 15$ each about two years ago, was planning on selling MM8 (with manual) and in great condition for $30

>>10408883
Is anyone buying for those inflated prices?
That's the bigger question.
I suspect some nerds just put their entire collection on ebay for insane prices for the off-chance some sucker is gonna bite.

>>10412437
>i can larp for free

>>10408883
Right after cryptoscammers all go default

>>10414337
So never.

>>10408883
When this board drops into the ocean of piss.

At t his point it just sort of seems like some kind of bizarre ouroboros where the retro industry keeps itself alive. Scalpers buying and selling to other scalpers. There are times when I'm tempted to unload some of my collection but I know it would just be back on ebay a week after they get it with a marked up price. Which really shouldn't bother me as much as it does but I don't need the cash that badly either.

>>10408883
When game companies start doing reprints of older games and consoles like they do with comic books. Which will never happen because it's easier and cheaper to just release "remastered" ports or ROMs running on a shitty emulator wrapper for every new console gen.

>>10414641
>Scalpers buying and selling to other scalpers.
That's greater fool theory.

>>10414651
>older games
This does happen to be fair
>consoles
Pretty unlikely even if they wanted to - a lot of the parts are simply not made anymore. The manufacturing tech for making them might not even exist anymore. They'd have to do FPGAs.

>>10414651
Older comics are still high in price even with reprints. Cope.

>>10413450
>Production will never resume for old games.
>Has already resumed for some old game
brainlet

>>10413903
Stop focusing on people. What people want doesn't matter. Companies don't care.

>I think if someone did, it doesn't have to be Nintendo
You seem to have forgotten what the subject here is.

>>10415045
Indie slop getting physical carts isn't going to make the retro bubble burst, you pedantic child.

>>10408883
Many games already cost far cheaper than when they were new. In a way it is worth to buy these games, my reason.

>be neet
able to spend time going to garage sales and happen to have a stack of the games that become valuable

>spend time increasing you wage
missed out on those cool deals but now earns a decent amount of money so can easily afford those overpriced games.

>>10413893
Atari is reprinting new carts, you never know what could happen. I think the market is missing a gb sizing gaming device.

>>10413156
Guess it depends on what area you are in, in a different area of Australia I found some crt's on the lawn but left 1 because it was too big for me. Almost 2 weeks later I decide to see if someone took it and no one did so I got it. I think in some areas you could try to give away a working crt and no one would take it. In my time talking with retro gamers I have never known a single one who owned a crt and when I bring it up even to retro games they act like owning a crt is such an unusual thing to do.

>>10415094
It's especially bad in Brisbane because half the population are NSW expats and they didn't bring their CRT's with them

my pal copies are still dirt cheap :)
every year i buy a handful of ps1 games for 5€ each

>>10415232
50

>>10415094
>Guess it depends on what area you are in, in a different area of Australia I found some crt's on the lawn but left 1 because it was too big for me. Almost 2 weeks later I decide to see if someone took it and no one did so I got it. I think in some areas you could try to give away a working crt and no one would take it.

> In my time talking with retro gamers I have never known a single one who owned a crt and when I bring it up even to retro games they act like owning a crt is such an unusual thing to do.


Kinda confirms my theory that most Australians are fucking stupid.

>>10414748
The comic market is almost 100 percent manipulated shit by heritage auctions. It's the same kinda money laundering/pyramid scheme shit that "one Million Dollar Mario 64" was.

>>10415069
Being ignorant and projecting isn't going to convince anyone you're not a stupid little child.

>>10415262
crts are cool but keeping a big box that displays in a tiny resolution just to play games that play fine on an lcd is kinda weird tbf. for the average tv user, an lcd is a direct upgrade.
>>10413156
mono composite only, but i got mine off the side of the road. i guess it just depends where you are.
t. moreton bay
>>10413192
what is it about australia that makes people seethe so much?

>>10415297
You're so right anon great argument. We just need enough fat indie devs to make gay little JRPGs and print them on Sega Genesis carts and all those Nintendo games on eBay will plummet in price!

>>10415375
You're either bad at games or exclusively play casual baby shit.

I don't even care about not having them myself anymore. I just can't help but wonder who this hobby is even for anymore. The people buying and selling are so divorced from the actual player base that it feels alien.

>>10414748
>>10414651
Putting aside the collectors market for a minute, comics are at least thankfully in a better position to where people are still able to at least READ them. Even outside "alternative methods" a fan of comics can largely get a good chunk of the material collected in omnibus or TPB format and companies will let you access their back catalogues via stuff like the marvel app. Video game companies seem almost allergic to the idea of putting a large chink of their past libraries up online or in modern release collections.

>>10415396
How did you come to this conclusion

>>10408883
Reject orthodox retro gaming, and sold out mega corporations, embrace emulation and keep your games alive with the power of digital necromancy

>>10409987
Zommers either don't care about retro games or pirate and emulate the games.If you need to mock younger generation for coping then you are extremely pathetic.

>>10415654
and all the romhacks and translations too =)

>>10415702
Again, you're retarded. It's the Johnny come late zoomers complaining about these prices when they look to buy this shit. Millenials mostly have what they already want or got it early.

>>10415881
Do zoomers even have the disposable income for this type of shit? I thought it was almost exclusively zoyface tech worker millennials on the west coast

>>10415890
>zoyface tech worker millennials on the west coast
These are the faggots who happily, pay the high prices or already have them and then show them off, they dont complain about the market.

It's the collectard wannabes trying to enter it now that its bloated complaining about the prices because they're forced to pay much higher costs to get in now.

>>10415895
Ah gotcha, I wasnt the original anon you were responding to but makes sense, we basically agree

>>10415895
>It's the collectard wannabes trying to enter it now that its bloated complaining about the prices because they're forced to pay much higher costs to get in now.
The "collectard wannabes trying to enter it now" think these are sane prices because "retro is expensive." They don't know that games are 10 or 100 times more expensive than they used to be.

>>10415375
>crts are cool but keeping a big box that displays in a tiny resolution just to play games that play fine on an lcd is kinda weird tbf. for the average tv user, an lcd is a direct upgrade.
If that's your mindset why even look for original hardware and not emulate instead?
Kinda dumb to use original hardware on display devices that weren't designed to display them. Might as well get an Emulator with a proper shader

>>10415890
Even a Walmart greeter can afford retro games. It's "expensive" for low income people.
>>10415881
No, the people driving the prices are the upper Middle class millennial dads who owned a super Nintendo 30 years ago who during a skibidi toilet YouTube marathon with their son got redirected to some "retro investor " video and decided they now got a new "geek" hobby other than Lego Investments and Funko pops.

>>10416259
>Even a Walmart greeter can afford retro games.
If they live with their parents, yes. But if you're trying to pay for an apartment, food, gas and insurance, then you'll at least need a job that pays $30 an hour, good luck getting that without a college education.

>>10416331
Good luck getting that WITH a college education, the economy is fucked

The mistake a lot of you dweebs are making is getting upset over someone asking for 900 bux for his shitty mega man game.
Try listing the "sold" mega man games on ebay and see for how much they really go.
There's some clown for every game who tries his luck by putting shit in for $2k buy it now, not indicative of real prices.

>>10408909
>>10411784
tfw the golden era of video games will at some point be forever forgotten, like tears in the rain

>>10415654
It's not that I don't like having things. I'll always prefer a physical copy but there's a limit to how retarded these things get. Simply put, NO GAME, is worth a thousand bucks. Not my favorite. Not your favorite. And I'm not about to "SUPPORT" some scumbag scalper who just wants a house payment for a mediocre retro game.

>>10416897
1000 years from now, archanonogists will find a pac man cab fossilized in micro plastics and they will rediscover the greatness.

not until the retro collectors start getting robbed

when the millenials start dying they will be like all the old ladies with fine china its going to be dumped because its worthless trash when they die

>>10416545
The real price isn't much better at half a grand but just look at the price vs the ps1 version of the game!

At best, it will be when bitrot happens.
But let's be real for a second, collectors don't play their shit anyways, so even if carts turn into paperweights and CDs into drink coasters, the price isn't falling down.

>>10417034
Will those games even work at that time?

>>10417120
Saturn version is significantly more rare and has exclusive content not available in other versions. The Mega Man 8 that's available everywhere is the PS1 version, making it significantly less interesting.

>>10408883
Just learn basic Japanese and buy used legit copies of games online for cheap. For some reason only western games are valued high but Japanese games/consoles are cheap as shit

>>10417151
Hell yeah brother

>>10417151
Not really the case anymore now that westerners have caught on, Japanse games are still cheaper for the most part but they're not what I would call dirt cheap.

>>10409086
If he just wants to play games why is he a "starting collector" ?

>>10408909
By that time you will be able to 3d print out a 99.9999% identical repro. Case, manual, disc, all of it.

>>10410451
>But as far as I know, he still has the game and couldn't sell it if he wanted to.
He absolutely could. Either by ripping off the label (cart is still very valuable without it), using the dry-erase marker trick, using careful application of acetone, or by simply marking out the word with additional sharpie usage.
A defaced Chrono Trigger cart is still worth a lot of money.

>>10415505
Because you clearly don't know shit about input delay.

>>10415375
>just to play games that play fine on an lcd
ignorant casual

>>10408883
It already did, prices fell by like 90%.

>>10408883
lol

>>10417126
I often feel like there's a very real possibility that people who buy slabbed and boarded collectibles are really just paying for a empty box. For all we know that slabbed copy of RARE SATURN game might have nothing or some other shit in the box. They're not gonna open it to double check.

>>10413903
Yet companies are the ones making reproductions, curious.

>>10415065
Yet record companies are the ones reproducing vinyls. Curious.

>>10417260
Teach me. Show me.

>>10417469
These things were selling for hundreds of thousands not long ago, now they're down to thousands. It's still a lot, but that's still an extreme drop off from the peak.

>>10417245

>>10417260
Nobody here cares about graded trash. We're talking about plain old games.

>>10417169
It's crazy that people keep repeating this lie, it hasn't been true for at least ten years lol

>>10409472
>>10409950
>>10409954
>>10411698
>>10411839
>>10411961
>>10412427
Disc rot is real in two senses:
>1: The production of the disc in question was particularly substandard, the environment was far from properly clean and sterile, or/and the layers weren't properly bonded, which doesn't matter in the short term, but means that the disc is living on borrowed time.
>2: Whoever has owned the disc has stored and handled it particularly poorly, the environment is humid, the disc has been exposed regularly to direct sunlight, it has very bad scratching, or multiple of these.

You can observe disc rot in discs which have been treated like shit by fucking idiots, as well as certain specific production batches. There are specific films printed on laser disc which are infamous for developing disc rot because they were made under a very low standard of manufacturing, while other films aren't affected in the slightest.

tl;dr if you take acceptable care of your games and they aren't from known affected batches, THEN disc rot is a complete meme, and your discs may very well outlive you.

>>10412437
He’s just some faggot who wants to babble “zoomie” and “zoom zoom” at another grown man. Fucking disgusting behavior.

>>10419013
I've seen many 30 year old cd's banged up and scratched up flopping around in the back of a vehicle and none of them have any disc rot.

>>10419270
That could be luck or the effect being slow, but I don't mean small surface scratches which can be polished off to make the disc cleanly readable again, I mean like gouges down into the layers which compromise the whole disc.

Disc rot happens when the layers aren't properly bonded and sealed, which would only happen if the disc was not manufactured correctly to begin with, or if the disc had been subjected to some sort of serious physical damage.
There's plenty of old discs which were manufactured properly and which have surface damage like that, but which aren't compromised and not about to rot. Some of those can be restored with polishing.

>>10408883
It's likely not ever going to burst but I don't think prices are going to continue escalating much further. Many zoomers coming of age now never even grew up with a CRT display or any physical media so they have no nostalgic attachment to real hardware outside a superficial appreciation of "muh aesthetics." Meanwhile more and more retro gaming enthusiasts are losing interest in collecting and will often offload their games on eBay or whatever after getting their hands on flashcards and ODE's.

>>10419458
I could see more expensive games dropping in price, since I feel like there's a significant amount of investors to actual gamers in that market, though I feel like the price floor for cheaper games will be permanently raised.

>>10419458
Yeah I can't actually see the bubble ever bursting in any significant way, I would assume physical deterioration would claim all these games and their cases long before any kind of market bubble for something with a finite supply would burst.

>>10417162
How can I be invited to one of MJR orgies?

My copy of Daytona isn't feeling so good bros...

Lost over $1k since last month. It has been dropping from its all time high quickly. At that rate, in just under 80 more months, prices should reach 0.

>>10409005
Oof that game cost me 9.99 new back in the day

>>10419919
Those are just compression holes. They make the data load faster. Perfectly normal.

>>10417765
Fake news with the advent of runhead. The lag will be identical.

But I wasn't only referring to the input lag.
Playing /vr/ games on an LCD with no shader is just completely butchering the image.

>>10419458
>>10419487
People say that about every bubble.
It will go down as there are only so many idiots wanting to play pass the overpriced item game.
Just because there aren’t many of something doesn’t mean it will stay fashionable or trendy forever.

>>10420083
It looks fine.

>>10420083
Looks fine to me too. Input lag is definitely a concern though.

>>10417162
Can we fucking legit expurge that fag?

>>10419503
You have to be into Thelema and OTO shit

>>10420086
>>10420337
ignorant casuals

>>10408883
When the jews are physically removed from polite society.

>>10408883
it already has
people who got scammed into buying video games as investments have lost hundreds of thousands on some individual graded copies

none of this matters if you just want to play the game instead of fetishizing the packaging you little pissbaby

>>10420818
How do you "lose" hundereds of thousands of dollars on videogames?
With 100k you couldn't only get most consoles with a complete library but also a few choice arcade machines to round off the collection.

>>10420827
>How do you "lose" hundereds of thousands of dollars on videogames?

The people who bought into the speculative market via various graded auctions. Ebay's still a shit show but the morons who spent hundreds of thousands on heritage are absolutely eating it now.

>>10409321
That’s a bad mentality

>>10408883
>burst
not like they're discovering hidden storehouses full of pristine retro games

>>10417034
Video games are interactive and a large valued part of our culture. You worthless tableware is worthless. Very poor comparison.

>wannabe investorfags boiling because they didn't get in on the ground floor with the smarter investorfags
Every single one of you are identical to the fags buying games for $500. The only difference is you're too poor to afford the games now.

Every day I am glad that the only physical games I buy are the ones I wanted to have as a kid but didn't get to play, and everything else I just emulate.

>900 donalds
>inferior us versions without ELECTRICAL COMMUNICATIO 引き裂かれてる IMAGINATION
actual scam

>>10421405
The problem isn't that they don't have stock the problem is that, well simply put, nobody fucking wants the damn things. You can pay out the ass for any game you want but it doesn't have value because you spent a lot and market the price up. Nobody wants them. Nobody wants to buy overpriced saturn game #78979. Nobody cares about mint in box Nintendo title that got a youtube video.

>>10421234
How did these people blow so much money on graded copies of Mario 64 lmao how is this real?

>>10421814
I have no idea honestly. You'd think anyone with that much money to burn would know a thing or two about how to use it better.

>>10415094
>Many games already cost far cheaper than when they were new

What a fucking joke of an argument:
>"Hey, these used 20-40 year old games and equipment cost less than they did if you were buying them brand new 20-40 years ago when they were the latest and brand new releases"

That's more mental gymnastics than actual gymnastics in Winter Games. Imagine acting as if it's perfectly fine if used VCRs were commonly $200+ because they cost more back when they were new.

>>10421814
Spoiler: it's money laundering for high-end criminals. Same reason artworks go for hundreds of thousands.

>>10421791
Wasn't it discovered a few years ago that somebody found an old box full of new copies of some rare expensive game and collectors basically forced/bribed/something along those lines for that person not to let people know or sell them so their own old copies of that rotting plastic would not go down in price? I forgot if they made him not sell them at all or very slowly trickle them out.

>>10416331
>a job that pays $30 an hour, good luck getting that without a college education.
I dont know where you live but here plenty of jobs pay around that that dont require college education,stuff like welder or working in construction usually pays very well and its always in demand.

>>10422067
Probably a European, so all of those jobs are Union with government-set wages.

Shut up.

bump

My copy of Megaman 8 was significantly cheaper.

>>10424364
>Not trying to shittily draw the logo of the game
Soulless.

Once disc rot settles in the games will be mostly worthless.

>>10424382
but bro, disc rot isn't real. everything else is effected by the cruel decay of time, but not my cherished childhood video games.

>>10419980
That's only 6 years, not bad.

>>10424386
>>10419013
>>10419410

>>10415382
Why are you still coping with this strawman bullshit? Are you literally retarded? The only one talking about indie games is you. And the voices in your head.

>>10421985
just wait until they find out that I have 8 boxes full of unopened copies of Frogger for the atari 2600

>>10408883
The PlayStation version is literally like thirty dollars

>>10408883
>mfw i emulate and it makes resellers mald

>>10409273
Came here to mention this, but not even limited to actually rare junk. Just by virtue of being old sellers think they can charge like 200 dollars for a piece of shit book nobody is willing to pay that much for, and it just sits there on amazon or whatever for four or five years not being sold.

I assume when it finally is sold its to another retard who thinks he can get even more for it.

>>10409424
No one in this thread cares about normgroids playing retro games the problem is, normies or otherwise, the internet has led to these markets that are inefficient where people are paying 200 bucks for things that are probbaly buried in a dusty corner of every garage on their street.

>>10409525
Doesn't this just prove the point of this thread? You have things selling for 200 bucks and then 2 bucks like 10 miles away. That's the problem with every internet era "collectors" market.

>>10426625
Yes. Undiscerning people value their nostalgia far too highly and end up driving up prices for piss common shit like pokemon games because they need it right now because they can't into delayed gratification.

>>10426556
Physical media is bloat. I'm in it for the games and ONLY the games.

>>10408883
The seller knows there is only ONE person out there that wants this. They have to charge 900 CAD because this shit isn't going to sell for years.

>>10409008
Nobody wants this shit but childless trannies, don't believe the hype. This will still be on eBay with a higher price next year.

>>10426556
You... become Gay Robin Hood?

>>10426662
Cause and effect backwards there. In most cases there would be more buyers if they weren't selling for 1000 bucks

>>10426556
right on broski

>>10426556
>>10426659
>>10426679
I emulate and buy the games I like.

>>10424386
Ohime Heirukihiya Imatrani 3 was never one of your childhood games.

>>10408883
Why it should? The more time goes, the less original disks or cartridges left. If you want to play just buy a reproduction, a bootleg copy, run a rom on ode or an emulator

>>10426673
No, you don't understand, I do this for a living. Not with /vr/, but if I found a nice deal maybe. Anyway, the longer you are going to sit on an item, the more you have to [over]charge for it.

>>10418119
cartriges/discs are just a lower tier of graded copies, because they are still only packaging for ROMs. They are no longer needed to access ROMs and play games. Save them for orgs that actually do need legit copies.

>>10426673
They're only selling one.