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I just setup an old Voodoo 3 box with a P233, what are some fun games that aren't mentioned very often. I've already gone through a lot of mainstream stuff, such as:

>sim tower
>sim city 2000/3000
>Red Alert
>Build Engine Games
>Quake gfames
>Doom Games
>MDK
>Tomb Raider

I'm really in the mood for old PC stuff, any uncommon gems out there to give a go?

>> No.10384970

>>10384967
Oh, played Black & White as well.

>> No.10384973

>>10384970
Did that game ever literally call out your name?

>> No.10384974

If you have a joystick, that era had some good flight sims. Anything from Jane's is a good bet.

>> No.10384975

>>10384973
No...?

>> No.10384980

>>10384975
I'm thinking of the sequel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPmU-PaKZf0

>> No.10384984
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This was fun. I liked trying to hit big jumps in the jeep.

>> No.10384994
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>>10384967
I don't believe G-Nome was uncommon, since it was packaged with some computers, but no one ever mentions it on this board.

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>>10384967

>> No.10385961

The original Microprose Magic The Gathering game.

>> No.10385978
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>> No.10386010

>>10384984
>Return Fire 2
There was a sequel!? I loved that game, can still hear the laughing skull sound when you die.

>>10385947
Reminds me of the card game from Might&Magic 7, looks fun.

>> No.10386021

>>10386010
>Reminds me of the card game from Might&Magic 7, looks fun.
Yep, it's a freeware clone of Arcomage.

>> No.10386023

>>10384967
Jagged Alliance 2 and Might and Magic 6, the supreme kinos to rule over everything else.

>> No.10386089

>>10384967
Need for Speed High Stakes.
Fastest Need4Speed ever

>> No.10386107

System Shock 2
Alien vs Predator
GTA2
Deus Ex
NOLF
Fakk2
Silver

>> No.10386142

>>10384967
Ragnarok/Valhalla, plays similar to Castle of the Winds. You'll be prone to do a lot and quickly before you can save progress but you can also do stuff like delete entire races from existence if they cause problems. There's little handholding (you can save but only every 4000 steps or so) and you can easily fail the main quest without realizing or even come across the ghost of your previous characters but it's fun to learn how to game the system.

>> No.10386146

>>10386142
prone to die alot*

>> No.10386257

>>10384967
little big adventure 2

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>>10384967
Return Fire and Bedlam were pretty fun

>> No.10386324

>>10386257
>little big adventure 2
This looks really interesting.

>> No.10386330

>>10386324
1 one 2 are very good games.

>> No.10386336

>>10386330
*and

>> No.10386375

Do Win98/Dos games run fine on a machine capable of running Windows XP or Is it best If I use hardware that's primarily made for Win98?

>> No.10386405

>>10386375
Yes if you can put in an ISA sound card and have Win98 running obivously

>> No.10386416

>>10386375
If you mean an XP-era rig with Windows 98 installed, there should be few problems running Windows 98 games, though some Glide shit may need a wrapper. Running DOS stuff will be harder, though, mostly due to sound card issues. You'll really want an ISA sound card for DOS compatibility, and if the board doesn't have ISA (and chances are it won't, ISA was basically dead by the time XP became popular), you'll have to make due with subpar SB emulation from cards like the SB Live.

If it's running XP, it's even more hit and miss for Windows 98 stuff. The later games may run just fine with minimal fuzz, but the early shit may be a struggle even with wrappers. And you may as well forget about DOS.

>> No.10386576

>>10384967
>>>/adv/30113667

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>>10384967
Hark! Hunting the Great White

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>>10384967
Might be worth looking for one of those 1000 game cd's loaded up with shareware. Most of it is just junk but they still tend to have some decent games you can find in them.

>> No.10388690

>>10384994
G-Nome definitely plays like a discount shelf game with aspirations to be something better... This is a complement because the $9.99 shelf sucked up all my money.

>> No.10388698

>>10388674
Don't do it, those disks are 99% trash.

>> No.10390538
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>>10384967
Exile 3 (and Exile trilogy in general). I spent hundreds of hours playing a shareware version of this RPG, before I found out what a keygen was. Nice pixel art, a world with at least hundred locations and so much text that I learned English playing it.
Now that the series has been remade twice, each time losing more soul, the author made it free to dowload.
For maximum retro experience you can search for elusive original versions of first two games with much cruder graphics.

>> No.10390552

terminal velocity
necrodome

>> No.10392954

>>10384994
I mentioned it couple of times. It was a fine game, but very barebones. No mech or unit customization, no custom missions, nothing.

>> No.10393012

>>10384967
Midtown Madness
Carmageddon
Dethkarz
Re-Volt

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>>10384994
that reminds me of another pack in game that "no one talks about": scorched earth, possibly for good reasons
came with my matrox mystique, along with mechwarrior 2 and destruction derby 2, which I played a lot more

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>>10384967
Azrael's Tear.
just play it,its really great and unique.

>> No.10394363

>>10385978
I'm not shittalking the actual gameplay but while I know it's supposed to be goofy looking I always thought that art style was off-putting

>> No.10394392

Warcraft 2
StarCraft
Civilization 2
Age of Empires
Lemmings Paintball

>> No.10394518

>>10394363
yeah always hated that garbage pail kids ahh shit

>> No.10394543

Fellas, which is the most kino of all time operating system? Windows 95 or 98? I can never decide.

>> No.10394578

>>10394543
If we're talking about functionality 98SE is objectively the best, but 95 will always be the one that made the huge jump and was a worldwide phenomenon. People have never been this excited for an operating system before. 98 is just 95 but better. It wasn't the massive leap 95 was but more of a refinement

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>>10384967
Montezuma's Return (aka Mystery Island/Max Montezuma). Showcases early 3dfx capabilities pretty nicely.

>> No.10395329

>>10394578
Is there even a reason to use 95 over 98SE other than it having lower system requirements and being able to more or less comfortably run it on a 486? Or hell, 98 first edition? Seems to me like both were utterly obsoleted by 98SE, unless there's some really obscure crap that refuses to run on anything other than 95 or something. At least Windows 3.x has its own charm, and might actually have a few things that don't run on the newer OSes.

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>>10395329
>Is there even a reason to use 95 over 98SE
I've never heard of any game that runs on 95 but not 98, so no.
98SE is the best because it's the last Windows before they broke DOS (you can't restart into full DOS mode in Windows ME and some DOS games need that because they have issues if you play them in Windows) and ME is also unstable because MS made some changes that broke a lot of 98 drivers and a lot of companies didn't bother making new drivers for it

>> No.10395750

>>10384973
Yes, it did. It got a buddy of mine. I didn't use my real name so I never got it myself.

>> No.10395763

Scorched Earth (better with a friend)
Corncob 3D
Wing Commander
Star Control
Kyrandia
Alone in the Dark
Descent
Magic Carpet
Albion
Eye of the Beholder series

>> No.10395790

>>10385978
>>10394363
The gameplay is excellent, probably the best road rash. But yeah all the character art in the menus is really uncanny valley. I cant even describe the exact feeling other than they are just enough distorted to not look human. I would describe the art style as "uncomfortable".

>> No.10395813

Descent Freespace 1/2
Interstate '76
Nuclear Strike

>> No.10397407
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10397407

Reminder that while 86Box is better in every other way, it's still worth trying PCem for Pentium 2 machines since it's less demanding so you'll be able to emulate higher clocks at full speed.
My general rule is to use 86Box almost all the time and only use PCem when I wanna run the fastest P2 possible

>> No.10397538

>>10397407
I'll definitely have to try it. I've been having a ton of fun dicking around with various 86box builds, but the Pentium II is beyond what my potato can manage. At best it can handle the completely made-up 100 MHz variant, and even then it chugs when trying something like Duke 3D, though at least Doom runs silky smooth especially once you rebind controls to WASD plus the novert mouse exec.

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>>10397538
>Pentium II is beyond what my potato can manage. At best it can handle the completely made-up 100 MHz variant, and even then it chugs when trying something like Duke 3D
PCem doesn't offer lower than 233 MHz so you'll have to be able to run at least that, though it's 233 is less demanding than 86Box's
>at least Doom runs silky smooth especially once you rebind controls to WASD plus the novert mouse exec
You should check out FastDOOM, it runs better than the original exe, has more options for performance, and vertical mouse movement is disabled. It's pretty much how I always play vanilla Doom on DOS now:
https://github.com/viti95/FastDoom

>> No.10397754

>>10397561
What sound setup do you use, typically? My most recent build is running a non-PnP AWE32, which is nice because it works quite well in both Windows and DOS, but I'm curious to see what others are using.

>> No.10397769

>>10384967
Pharaoh
Caesar 2
Heart of Darkness

>> No.10397776
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>>10384967
>Dos
Duke nukem 2D.

>> No.10397782

>>10397754
AWE32 is good and as far as I can tell PNP works without problems in DOS too. Maybe some issues exist but I have encountered any yet

>> No.10399349

>>10397782
I want DOS to be the focus, so I thought I might as well go with that. Works a treat either way, just had to have Windows scan for it.

>> No.10399350

>>10397776
>uncommon
>Duke Nukem 2d
anon...

>> No.10399367

>>10399349
>just had to have Windows scan for it
Yeah if you're on 95 or 98 you have to install stuff on Windows to use on DOS. As Phil says on his site:
>The important thing to note is that with Windows 95 and 98 you manage the resources under Windows, MS-DOS mode will then use these resources.

If you're on a pure DOS system you need to manually install the basic drivers and if it's a PNP card you also need to install the CTCM drivers

>> No.10400469

>>10399367
Is it possible to have a GUS in there at the same time? Windows doesn't seem to see it.

>> No.10400482

>>10400469
You might have to install drivers manually

>> No.10400549

>>10394942
pic reminds me of jumping flash, will check it out

>> No.10400991

>>10384994
i played the shit outta this
it came bundled with my win95 packard bell

>> No.10401003
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>>10400991
>win95 packard bell
Did your computer also come with this?

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Mordor: Depths of Dejenol

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>>10401003
no
it came with g-nome, lil howie's fun house, and encarta

>> No.10401019

>>10401003
holy fuck right in the feels
i love these uis

>> No.10401026

>>10401017
Howie's a faggot. Stinky best boy.

>> No.10401028

>>10401026
i mean, youre not wrong

>> No.10401056

>>10401019
Yeah. For years I kept thinking about this thing but I didn't know what it was called so I wondered if I just imagined it. It's called Packard Bell Navigator

>> No.10401227

Are there any Glide games that still require real hardware or something like 86box to be played properly or at all, as opposed to using something like dgVoodoo on modern Windows?

>> No.10401753

>>10384967
Mindmaze

>> No.10401770

>>10384967
>Sim City 2000
my nigga
although you can play it on win10 with some patches
what do you have for audio?

>> No.10401773

Also does anyone know if you can do shaders on Dosbox-x?

>> No.10401918

>>10401773
Yes. It can use both HLSL and GLSL shaders. It's not as robust as RetroArch's multi-pass shader support, but it's something. DOSBox-staging also has an interesting feature where it can automatically load specific CRT shaders depending on the content and your output resolution.

>> No.10401954

>>10401918
interesting, I hadn't heard of dosbox-staging yet which was the whole reason I was using X since vanilla dosbox is ancient at this point.

>> No.10402035

>>10401954
I'm admittedly confused as to what the situation is with DOSBox. The mainline project seems to still be getting regular updates, but their public releases are insanely out of date (the last couple of them have only been bugfixes as far as I can tell; they're functionally identical to the 0.74 release from 2012). And they're still using fucking SourceForge to host their code. I'm guessing they're turbo boomers or some shit who see no need to move to Github, and apparently have ceded responsibility for regular public releases to the forks, preferring to act as a central code repo from which they can pull from and add to as they please, but I can't say if this is actually the case. Perhaps someone more familiar with the overall situation can chime in.

>> No.10402084

>>10401770
SB16

>> No.10402094

>>10402084
well not to be that guy but adding a general midi setup slaps. Especially on daggerfall and other 90s games. Not saying you need to buy an SC-55 but it's hella nice. Sound Blaster is more accurate to how most people heard the music in the 90s anyways since nobody had $800 midi setups to play DOOM.

>> No.10402106

>>10402094
Kinda crazy there's still no proper way to emulate an SC-55 setup outside of Roland's payware VA software.

>> No.10402141

>>10384967
D/Generation
Lode Runner: The Legend Returns
Populous 2
Syndicate/Syndicate: American Revolt/Syndicate Wars
Warzone 2100

>> No.10402157

>>10402094
Yeah, i've never had a midi setup in the 90s so I'm not nostalgia for it, an online friend of mine got a Roland sc-55 and he said it wasn't worth the cost, at the end of the day, I'm no audiophile and if I can hear the music, I'm perfectly happy.

>> No.10403723

>>10402157
I'm a bit weird in this respect. My first PC was a 386, but the fucker didn't have a sound card of any kind (it was actually a POS system that my parents used for their business, which they brought home once one of the franchises went under), so even though I played a number of games on it, such as Prince of Persia, Indy 3 and The Simpsons, I only heard the bleeps and bloops of the PC speaker. I later played a bunch of games on my cousin's Packard Bell 486, but that already had a CD-ROM, and though he had some shareware Apogee shit on it, I mostly played the games he had on Windows 3.11, which all used MIDI and digital audio. By the time I got a Pentium, the DOS era was pretty much done, so I've no nostalgia for any of the sounds from older DOS games, and so for me, objectively MIDI sounds the best.

>> No.10403747

>>10403723
Interesting. I always thought it was funny how the 386 became the de-facto instruction set standard, yet hardly anybody actually grew up with one. I had a 486 for example, there were tons of those around

>> No.10403793

>>10403747
I think plenty of people did, but of course, as PCs became more and more ubiquitous, more people would grow up with later generations than those that came before i.e. more people grew up with a 486 than a 386, and in turn more people grew up with a Pentium than a 486, and so on.

>> No.10403796

>>10403723
ya my first pc was a P133 my mother used to use for work and let me play games on it in the evening
never had a midi card just a soundblaster, loved playing tie fighter on it

>> No.10403860
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10403860

Not games, but Fine Artist and Creative Writer stand out, in the back of my mind.

>> No.10403925

>>10384967
Mechwarrior 2 series.

>> No.10405168

bamp

>> No.10405618

>>10403925
Destroyed 2 and 3 last year. God I love 3 and Pirate moon expansion. Still have my original copy.

>> No.10405630

>>10384967
Moto Racer 1 and 2
Screamer

>> No.10405746

>>10402106
>Kinda crazy there's still no proper way to emulate an SC-55 setup outside of Roland's payware VA software.
Download the pirated ROMs and load them up in a virtual machine. Point whatever DOS emulator you're using at the virtual machine.

>> No.10405792

>>10402106
Isn't there a way to do this with a rasperry pi? I know mister's use it that way.

>> No.10406938

>>10384967
alien carnage
corridor 7
ken's labyrinth

>> No.10407092

I reccomend trying Nancy Drew Secrets can Kill and Stay Tuned for Danger. Really comfy

>> No.10407109

>>10384967
NHL 2000 is absolute kino.

>> No.10407124

>>10407092
Kinerino comfino Bambino

>> No.10407143

>>10384967
my personal 98-00 era cpu essentials list:

gta2
rct1+2
diablo 2
starcraft bw
red alert 2

>> No.10407148

>>10403860
these were my childhood

>> No.10407158

>>10407143
would also add age of empires II
and doom 2 of course

>> No.10407265

>>10395763
descent and descent 2 are the best shit in history
and you cant deny that

>> No.10407370

>>10407265
Tech demos.

>> No.10407408

>>10405746
How does that work?

>> No.10408987

>>10405792
I think that's for the MT-32, isn't it?

>> No.10410463

KGB (aka Conspiracy) if you're into detective point and click games.

>> No.10411920

>>10395329
Only reason I can think of is if you have an underpowered machine that can barely handle stuff like Active Desktop, and even then there are projects like 98lite which sorta gives you the best of both worlds.

>> No.10413794

MechWarrior 2

>> No.10413806

>>10413794
More like kek warrior Jew. Just kidding, I love mech warrior, I first played it on SNES and even enjoyed that version

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>>10413806
>More like kek warrior

>> No.10414679

Little Howie’s Fun House. There’s a math and word adventure. Howie Mandel is the voice. Pretty silly times and generally fun. Great if you have kids as well.