/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10363645
TAKE IT APART FIRST
it pisses me off so fucking much

>>10363645
I just dunk the whole thing in 20% ammonia. Why take it apart?

>>10363645
Looks like something 8-bit guy would do. Just spraying tons of liquid over electronics

>>10363648
Not defending the webm but taking apart plastic is just asking for the screw holes to shatter.

>>10363645
Dip it in some tea or sumthin

plastic housings: rub firmly with slightly damp cloth
screens: rub gently with soft, dry cloth
electrical contacts: blanket with warm, moist breath to restore blessed conductivity

>>10363645
I do not.

>>10363645
Kinda like that, but with less water and no soap. The bristles need only be damp.

Stuff off the top of my head.

Wipe down with damp paper towels until they stop coming out brown.
Wipe with Clorox/Lysol/etc cleaning wipe.
Get into nooks and grooves with Q-Tips. Or paper towels guided by fingernail.
For battery leaks, Q-Tips & vinegar. Follow with alcohol.
For rusted RF shielding, soak overnight in vinegar. Rust will practically fall off.
For jiggly Atari paddles, squirt pots with electronic cleaner.
For grungy, dirty straps (really more of a Wii thing which isn't /vr/,) get some bar soap and "wash my hands" with the strap between them.
For Sharpie marks, clean with alcohol. Textured surfaces may require repeated applications.
Stickers and labels, cover/soak with Goo-Gone, let sit to soften the adhesive. If there's some other sticker-label underneath, Goo-Gone will usually just stay within the sticker you're trying to remove. Use a Q-Tip to apply if you want to be really careful. If it gets onto a paper box you're trying to clean, it'll usually evaporate without a trace after a day or so.

If things looks really bad, I'll disassemble to clean individual parts.

Warning: rubbing alcohol can damage the finish on some plastics.

Carefully disassemble it, put the parts into an ultrasonic cleaner, dry and wipe it, and assemble it together again. Good as new.

>>10364581
Oh, but be careful with parts with labels or paint. Ultrasonic can strip those.

Isopropyl alcohol 99% and compressed air.

>>10363909
Very nice.

>>10364605
Isopropyl alcohol isn't necessarily safe for all types of plastic. With some it will strip the surface of its plasticizers, leaving a dry, hazy appearance.

>>10363679
do you normally disassemble plastics with an impact wrench or something?

I don't.

>>10364682
True, I only use it for metals and electronics. I usually clean plastics with simple water and soap.

Tip when reassembling things: Apply light pressure and turn the screw counter-clockwise until it "clicks." The threads should be lined up so you don't risk re-tapping the hole.

>>10363645
>removing retro vintage gaming dust especially if MIJ
Noooo you're lowering the value

>>10364884
mint in junkyard?

>>10363645
depends how dirty it is, im a big proponent of a toothbrush and lots of things earn a deeper disassembly

also 409 spray works wonders, and i always finish with lemon pledge

>>10363679
I've had this happen only once with some shitty nes I bought at a carboot and it was as simple as glueing the plasic back in place.

>>10364864
This is essential for brittle plastics, the og Xbox especially.

I have never cleaned my Apple II. I’ve had it since 1988. Same for my NES, Genesis, and SNES.
They just werk

>>10364809
Have you not dealt with old plastic? It becomes very brittle.

Also aside from shattering the metal on plastic strips the plastic and it can't grip the screw anymore. You only get a few disassembles before it won't hold together properly anymore.

I like to soak the plastic in warm water for a few days and then coat the inside to provide structure. Then I coat the exterior with salon care 40 and wrap it up with cling wrap and stick it in the oven at 140 if it's not white or 165 if it is white. Then it stays there for 9ish hours depending on what up. I like to use plastic screws with the same threading to keep things gentle there, but repairs on the screw holes can be required

>>10365019
>take apart duke controller to clean out the 20 years of accumulated gamer gunk
>accidentally breathe on one of the screw posts
>*CRUNCH*

>>10363679
you're legit retarded or have hamfists if that's a problem.
>>10365264
>Have you not dealt with old plastic? It becomes very brittle.
>anecdotes about stripped screws
> only get a few disassembles
you faggots here need to stop making up fantasy stories or thinking your gay life experience applies to all when you know jack shit about anything. only time i've EVER seen shit go wrong is when hamfisted fat motherfuckers overtighten screws or are just damn careless.

>>10363679
grug

>>10367139
Okay, just keep crossthreading shit and thining it's cool.

>>10367139
Are you on the rag, sweaty? Its just good advice. These systems are 20+ years old, not some wild black dick your mom sucks while youre at soccer practice.

>>10364809
Plastic becomes extremely brittle with time. I've never had it happen with consoles (because I'm very careful), but I broke a few old phones and fax machines off their hinges because the plastic was really brittle.

>>10364864
...But counter-clockwise is to loosen something?

>>10363645
Scouring pad, wire brush and ajax

>>10368532
Don't leave stuff in a windowsill exposed to direct sunlight. Plastics don't like that very much.

>>10368626
>>10368532
really mostly a problem with PVCs as they depend on a chemical additive to give them flexible properties that can dry out with time and render them brittle

>>10364864
Thanks!

>>10368596
Yes; you turn counter-clokwise until the thread on the screw drops into the thread in the plastic, then turn clockwise to tighen without cross-threading.

>>10363679
Happened to me when I disassembled my GBA SP. Two of the screwholes just crumbled apart.

>>10363645
8-bit guy moment.

>>10368914
I had an old power supply that had something rattling inside. As soon as I tried to twist the screw, *snap*. The post it was driven into broke off.

And recently was this. Battery cover was stuck, I applied more pressure, and the whole panel shattered. But I blame myself too, I pushed hard on the middle of it, not the ridged part, not the sides, the middle.

Though in general, I'm not fearful of removing screws. I've only had once instance of the plastic around it disintegrating.

>>10368532
>>10368643
Modern plastics are much better than 80s plastics. For example car dashes cracking from sunlight used to be a common issue while it isn't anymore.

shitty plastic is shitty plastic. it's an issue with Switches and those aren't made with 80s era plastic formulations.

White and beige plastics in general seem to be more prone to failure than other colors and I don't know why that is.

>>10368919

>>10369215
>White and beige plastics in general seem to be more prone to failure than other colors and I don't know why that is
You haven't seen gold plastic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcjAUN5Ssj8

>>10363645
>Plastic
Soak in hot water and Pledge for 5 minutes, stir the entire bathtub every minute.
Go over it all with a hand brush (non-scouring) while it's submerged.
Drain.
Rinse with lukewarm water.
Shake, pat down, wipe dry.
Lay all the pieces out in the backyard/sunroom/whatever to fully dry.

>Fastening Hardware I really hope you guys actually do clean out the original fasteners
Dunk in Isopropyl.
Strain.
Brush down each and every fastener with a toothbrush.
Dunk again.
Strain.
Fold a towel around them.
Separate fasteners by type and location.

>PCBs and other circuitry
Inspect for damages and make notes of what needs to be replaced/retested. Don't do any full cleaning until damage is taken care of.
Lightly spray over with isopropyl.
Wipe with clean room wipes.
Let dry.
Spray the fuck out of it with Electrosolve.
Brush with motherboard brush.
Let dry.

>>10363667
That is in fact 8-bit guy. I don't know where he gets all this money from but somebody needs to stop him from buying stuff. He can do the retrobrite thing because that's monkey shit, but when it comes to actual electrical/electronic work he only winds up destroying shit with his uneducated guesses.

>>10369291
>I don't know where he gets all this money from
I don't know how well youtube pays but he has almost 90 videos with over a million views, with his top video at 6.5M

>>10369237
wtf was he trying to do here,

>>10369334
Timestamp should work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rPr2JSKeQ0&t=319s

>>10369215
>>10369248
What the fuck? Why is this a thing for?

>>10369569
Nobody really knows why exactly this happens, not even the companies, so people only have hypotheses. Companies simply stopped using that exact gold plastic

>>10369576
Lime green bionicle parts have the same problem.

black plastic seems to hold up well but yes white and beige can be oddly fragile

>>10363679
>old brittle plastic
>screws on super tight
can't be bothered, not with my luck

>>10367139
You should have just left the thread when it became obvious you didn't know what you were talking about.

>>10369576
It's the dye they used, mixed with the tons of gold "flecks".

>>10370183
The irony being that uv is generally blamed for plastic degradation and black absorbs uv more effectively

>>10370489
The black pigments absorbs the UV, so less of it reaches the plastic.
It's like tanned skin.

>>10370505
>>10370489
also black plastic is much more popular with modern (21st century) electronics as it not only doesn't show dirt and grime as much but probably because it's more durable. everything in the 80s-90s used white or beige plastic (at least computer hardware, anyway) that has yellowed or rotted over time.

>>10370523
the old girl still looks like new after 40 years while Commodore machines have become sad and yellowed

>>10370550
You forgot the part where the membrane keys nearly always shit themselves and quit working (you can buy a new replacement membrane for them though).

>>10370505
Or some whitening additive or even bleach was used that ruined the polymer stability?

>>10372620
I looked into it and saw that bromine (a type of bleach) was used as a flame retardant in making white ABS plastics and is responsible for yellowing in these plastics

>>10363645
electronics contact cleaner only
auto parts stores will have it cheap
ignore all dumbass posters,
do not feed the trolls

>>10364864
This dudes just like me, I always hold my lucky cunny drive whenever I'm soldering

>>10369569
It was most likely the metallic paint used that didn’t bind well with the plastics causing it to go brittle
>>10369576
Yeah, I have skyquake and it happened to him

>>10363645
Disassemble, remove electronics, take all plastic parts to a sink, let it soak in dish soap and hotwater for 30mins.. Use a bristle scrubber and scrub the shit out of it, rinse and leave to dry on dish rack.

>>10363679
It really doesn't.

>>10369248
Huh.
Poor Randy.

>>10369334
The PC he was working on had a short on one of its expansion cards that was tripping its power supply. So 8-Bit Guy decided to brute force current into it, thinking that would fix it. In the end he just blew up the faulty component (a tantalum capacitor) and resolved it. He singed the board, but otherwise nothing was damaged.

The Atari 2600 Jr and 7800 were mostly black plastics but they used the cheapest, nastiest, brittlest plastic imaginable because Tramiel era Atari did not gaf about them except to make some quick easy bucks.

>>10363645
Usually I just get a hammer and start smashing it until it's clean

>>10368914
certain colors had brittle plastic i think it was blue and pink, maybe a few others.