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What is the best controller for retro gaming?

>> No.10364294
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10364294

>>10364292
The best for 3-5 gen consoles (except n64)

>> No.10364295

>>10364292
Never Dual Shock, having both sticks in the middle is just insanely retarded and it feels like shit to hold

>> No.10364297
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>>10364292
If we're talking only about the ones you've posted, I'd for with DualSense for all 2D titles and 1st person 3D titles, and XBOX for 3rd person 3D titles. If we're talking in general, I use an M30 by 8BitDo, love a 6 button layout and a SEGA styled D-Pad.

P.S. A black DualSense is so sleek and I love it. I hated how it looked at first with the white/black main version, but this one won me over.

>> No.10364307

I’ve got a million different controllers and I prefer the 8BitDo Pro 2, although it’s far from perfect too. Anyways, I play more and more retro games with an arcade stick or just a keyboard.

>> No.10364315

so i'm planning on getting a dualsense and running retroarch through steam. as i understand it steam should just pick it right up, is that correct? should any bluetooth dongle work, or is there one that's ideal?

>> No.10364317

DualShock 3 basically covers everything for gamepad inputs (and is also a well made controller at least in the right version) if you absolutely have to use one controller for as many systems as possible. On paper it doesn't have the most straightforward compatibility for standard input protocols but it's pretty well supported otherwise.

>> No.10364319

>>10364292
I use DualSense for everything, works great.

>> No.10364448

>>10364292
Best retro = 8bitdo M30
Best Modern = 8bitdo SF30 Pro

Sony and MS cant compete. Its obvious their controllers have no been designed by actual gamers. They are designed for maximum profit.

>> No.10364465

>>10364292
personal preference really, i like the series x one cause of the dpad

>> No.10364482

>>10364448
M30 is overrated, Hori Fighting Commander is better
>all 6 buttons are the same size
>more consistent d-pad
>more comfortable to hold
M30 only advantage is wireless

>> No.10364525

Saturn for 2D, GameCube for 3D. Everything else is trash.

>> No.10364698

>>10364482
>more comfortable to hold
It is also twice as heavy as the M30 and feels much better and durable as a result of this.

>> No.10364710

>>10364292
Wii U tablet

>> No.10364731
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>>10364292

>> No.10364745

>>10364319
this
sucks that there's no vibration in dolphin and redream but oh well

>> No.10364752

>>10364292
>>>/v/

>> No.10365039
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>>10364292

>> No.10365108

>>10364294
>>10365039
six face buttons are such a fucking boomer meme
every single six button game (of which there aren't many in the first place) plays better with four face buttons and two shoulder buttons

>> No.10365121

>>10365108
Apart from every 6 button fighting game of which there are many

>> No.10365149

>2D
8bitdo M30

>3D
I guess Xbox controllers are the least bad, even though they still fucking suck. There's probably a better 3rd party option that has the stick in that position but I wouldn't know.

>> No.10365152
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>>10364731
Logitech F310 always felt like shit, you can get a better controller with analog triggers for the same money or even less now.

>> No.10365268

i have a generic xbox controller that works well enough that i dont care to get anything else

>> No.10365291

The one that comes with the authentic retro console you're playing on

>> No.10365336

>>10365121
No even those. Just put heavy kick and punch on the shoulders. Works just fine and you don't have to move your thumb so much.
Six buttons were always a retarded concept and there's good reason four became the standard.

>> No.10365343

I just use a keyboard for everything, and if I can’t an Xbox USB, I like 8 and 16 bit on keyboard

>> No.10365387

>>10365343
you could also try into english a bit more

>> No.10365732
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>>10364292
8BitDo's M30 is really sweet. I'm excited for that analog SEGA Saturn controller by RetroBit too...

>> No.10365738

>>10365108
No they don't. 4 face buttons is a really awkward setup for any game that isn't extremely casually paced. 6 buttons is designed for fighting games, but it works good for action platformers and shooters too.

>> No.10365750

>>10365732
i really dont know what this would even be good for. just seems like a regular saturn pad would be better in any instance in which i would want it
a saturn 3d pad with two analog sticks would make more sense

>> No.10365851

>>10365108
It feels good in the hand, those big buttons feel like you're holding an arcade stick in your hand, I also enjoy using the "claw" method that makes it feel even more like an arcade stick when needed, though in a very compact size, also these are the controllers that often have the SEGA D-Pad with 8 directions and all thanks to the disk shape. I get what you mean, but they're often good to hold.

>>10364482
I agree, having all of the buttons be big is quite nice, though I love how the M30 has the ones on the 1st row concave and the 2nd row convex, it's nice, also the SEGA styled D-Pad feels fantastic.

>>10365750
I guess the point is to be the "perfect" controller, since the Saturn controller is so beloved, all you need is analog sticks and now it's for 3D too, it's meant to be a controller for all uses. I think they messed up by going for small analog sticks, but it probably feels good to use anyways, I'll need to actually hold one to find out though, anyways it looks like a perfect controller for all uses to me.

>> No.10367064

That Ouya shit

>> No.10367108

>>10364731
Seconded
Only problems are that the triggers are a bit funky and the start/select buttons are annoying to get to quickly
360 style dpads are superior and I'm tired of pretending they aren't

>> No.10367110

>>10365851
>I guess the point is to be the "perfect" controller, since the Saturn controller is so beloved
But the idea of a perfect controller is retarded. No tool is perfect for every job. You can either have ergonomic analog stick placement or ergonomic dpad placement. I would rather have different controllers for different games than a jack of all trades master of none one.

>> No.10367804

>>10364292
i usually use xbox controllers since they have native PC support.

>> No.10368217

What are some good symmetrical stick 3rd party controllers? I've been waiting for one to release that has all the fancy shit that asymmetrical designs tend to get, but none ever pop up and it's really disappointing. I got the Flydigi Vader 3 Pro and it's essentially perfect in every way for me, but I'd like a Symmetrical design for PS games since it just feels wrong to play things like Ape Escape or Katamari with Asymmetrical.

>> No.10368219

>>10368217
>Flydigi Vader 3 Pro
They're not even trying to be serious with these names are they?

>> No.10368227

>>10364317
What are some good places to find good DS3 controllers? Failing that, I'd be happy with good DS/DS2 but I'm weary of finding anything good on Amazon or eBay. I'd like to just use first party stuff, but they're all so old that I don't know if the quality will ever match up. I wish people were as autistic in preserving older DS controllers like how Smashfags love messing around with the GCN controller.

>> No.10368229

>>10368219
Yea the names are top tier retarded but the features are top notch. I can't believe how well hair triggers work for general games and how I miss using L2/R2 buttons as buttons instead of analog triggers I almost never use.

>> No.10368241

>>10368217
SN30 Pro+

>> No.10368253

>>10368241
Isn't the pro 2 the successor to this or are chinks being stupid with their branding again?

>> No.10368260

>>10368253
Truth be told, I've got no fucking clue at to the difference of the Pro2 and the SN30 Pro+. Their naming scheme is retarded.
I just own two of the later, and they've done me great. Play mostly 2d games on it with the Dpad, but the sticks are really good too.

>> No.10368269

>>10368260
Pro 2 seems to be more or less the same but with the useless buttons on the back and a physical switch for the modes. I got the pro 2 and it's pretty decent for the price in my honest opinion.

>> No.10369538

>>10368269
I wish the silkscreen for ABXY were better on the DMG style controllers, I always rub off one of the letters.

>> No.10369550

>>10364731
Yeah, these are decent, just don't go piloting a sub with one.

>> No.10369581

>>10368217
Wii U pro controller

>> No.10371342

>>10365108
It just feels nice in the hand.

>> No.10371746 [DELETED] 

>>10364292
Want the 8bit do m30

Have the SN30 Pro+
Just love it but rarely touch it.

Wish it worked on the wii!!

Have to say, thought Xbox controller for was the best all pc emulations but the cord turned to absolute trash.

It's up to you. There are all kinds.

>> No.10371757 [DELETED] 

>>10364292 (OP) #
Want the 8bit do m30

Have the SN30 Pro+
Just love it but rarely touch it.

Wish it worked on the wii!!

Have to say, thought Xbox controller was the best all pc emulations but the cord turned to absolute trash.

It's up to you. There are all kinds.

>> No.10371927
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>>10364292
Currently using pic related because I'm retarded and broke my right thumb.
I don't play any fighting games except Vampire Savior 2 but I'm loving this for platformers and shmups. Mine was modded by the previous seller with a circlegate JLF and Sanwa buttons.

>> No.10371962

I have a PowerA version of a 360 controller and I can't complain at all for £20. Taken everything I've thrown at it. Only complaint is that there are two extra triggers on the back that don't seem to actually map to anything, unless I've missed something obvious.

>> No.10372728

>>10365108
>every single six button game (of which there aren't many in the first place) plays better with four face buttons and two shoulder buttons
Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask

>> No.10372731

>>10372728
I actually think those games benefit from having two of those C button items be on shoulder buttons, binding the hookshot and bow to those feels comfy.

>> No.10372783

>>10364294
Fucking HORRIBLE.

>> No.10373583

>>10365336
>>10365108
This is the most retarded opinion I've ever seen on vr. I hope you get raped in prison once the FBI finally seizes your computer

>> No.10373848

Unrelated but why can't I into dpads? I feel like they'd offer more precise control in retro games but I can't work out how to use them, switching directions is always slower and means pressing down on a button instead of just flicking a stick. My hands always end up hurting as a consequence. I grew up playing on a PS1 (no DualShock) and a Nintendo DS and I don't remember having any problems back then. Maybe my hands have grown too much to keep playing with children's toys.

>> No.10374105

>>10364315
you don't need a dongle if you use DS4Windows

>> No.10374749

>>10373848
you're supposed to roll your thumb across the pad

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>>10364292

>> No.10377702

Does anyone know if the Genesis version of he M30 (as in actual console) has the possibility of being USB-C instead of micro usb? I don't want the bluetooth one and I want one with USB-C and having a Genesis dongle is a nice plus.

>> No.10377723

Not Retro Controllers

>> No.10377745
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10377745

I guess this is the appropriate thread to ask this question. Does anyone have this controller for the PlayStation 2? It's the Logitech Cordless Action Controller. I own one and I bought a replacement dongle off of ebay not too long ago. It seems there is common problem where one of the capacitors inside dies and makes the whole controller useless. The dongle goes into pairing mode permanently (green flashing light) and prevents the controller from ever syncing again. Am I just fucked? Seems like you're playing the lottery trying to find a replacement dongle and even if you do get lucky and find one, it will eventually fail over time.

>> No.10379021
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10379021

Feels great in the hands, nice clicky buttons, and an excellent d-pad. Definitely slept on.

>> No.10379039

>>10364292
Always go gravis

>> No.10379062

>>10364292
That xbox pad because the d pad is clicky and god tier. Great for playing fighters, platformers etc

>> No.10379302

>>10379039
once you go gravis you never go bravis

>> No.10380738

>>10364292
>What is the best controller for retro gaming?
keyboard and mouse

>> No.10380761

>>10372783
what's horrible about it

>> No.10380857

>>10364292
Can I buy the Sega Saturn Dual Analog controller with 2 shoulder buttons on each side yet?

>> No.10382839

>>10377702
No the Genesis version for real consoles only comes in micro-USB to my knowledge

>> No.10383313

>>10364292

I use Snes pad for anything pre N64/PS1. I use either XBox or an 8bitdo pro 2 wired for anything newer. Works great

>> No.10383358

>>10364295
Why would you care about sticks with retro games? Why wouldn't you want the dpad more prominent on retro games? Why are you a cock gobbling faggot?

>> No.10383390

>>10365152
I wish the super basic wired version didn't come in such gay colors. I'd buy a basic white or black one.

>> No.10384332

DualShock 4 works for pretty much everything for me, most comfortable Sony controller ever made, though I haven't given DualSense much time to take that spot, maybe when I buy one.

>> No.10384735
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10384735

>try to look for a copy of this
>literally none of the fucking stores have it
>not even 8bitdo themselves
What the fuck?
Did Nintendo sue them or something?
Why is this shit so hard to find?
Finnish btw

>> No.10384745

>>10384735
because the new model is the 8Bitdo SN30 Pro Gamepad.

>> No.10384746

>>10384735
>Did Nintendo sue them or something?
I don't think it got to lawsuits but they did start sending copyright notices

>> No.10384750
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>>10384746
> Ree you can't make good controllers that look like ours and is better than ours!!!
> You won't give us a license to make good controllers on your behalf.
> Your problem not ours!
> Fine we'll just change them a bit! See how you like it!
> Nintendo pic related.

>> No.10384752
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>>10384745
That looks so fucking LAME
>>10384746
That's sad to hear
I wanted to get one so bad

>> No.10384762

>>10384752
Might look lame but functionality is essentially the same I believe?

>> No.10384767

>>10384752
You can get it in Gameboy colors still amusingly.

>> No.10384768
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>>10384762
Yeah it's probably the same but I'm autistic so this is a big deal breaker

>> No.10384779
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>>10384768
> I'm autistic.
Kek, was expecting nothing less from a 4chan poster, at least it doesn't look like this, exactly what I want from a controller but....

WHY THE GARISH CRAYON COLORS!? JUST MAKE IT WHITE!!!!
> Autism REEEE!!!

>> No.10384794

>>10384779
Are there any alternatives for a good controller?
Something for retro games and of course platformers

>> No.10384809

>>10384794
Depends on what specs you are looking for to be honest, people got different likes, just avoid the ones with the back buttons they are better for modern shooters and such not for retro gaming.

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>>10384809
Well just something that works well for retro games, I guess analog sticks would be an bonus
Has anyone tried this?

>> No.10384834

>>10384818
Not adaptable and limited so I would say a no go, even the one I pointed out would be better for the purposes.

>>10384767
I think you can't copyright/trademark colors like that just the way they are made.

>> No.10385250

why is it so hard for a company to just like, make an xbox controller/dualshock but with 6 face buttons? just make them a little smaller so they fit

>> No.10385254

>>10384779
I prefer the violet one.

>> No.10387281

>>10364292
bumpin cause nobody cares

>> No.10387309

I don't subscribe to the idea of best for X.
To me, it's what's available. A controller is not going to stop me from enjoying any game (except dedicated hardware. I miss steel battalion)

>> No.10387567

>>10387309
Good for you want a medal

>> No.10387580

>>10384735
hunt on ebay for one, sadly they're hard to get ahold of now that all the old-stock has dried up

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>want a hall-effect N64 controller stick
>they only come in gamecube stick styles and not a tall stick like the original

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>>10364292
I have a DualShock 4 and think it's a fantastic controller... does anyone here have both the DualShock 4 and the DualSense? Is it better compared to the DualShock 4 in any way?

>> No.10389359

>>10372783
Completely wrong. It's easily the best controller if you don't need analogs.

>> No.10389375

I hate the DualSense's dpad.

>> No.10389632

>>10377745
You made this thread yesterday. Make a new thread or go ask leddit.

>> No.10389643

>>10364297
this sony fag from their marketing department is glowing.

>> No.10389648

>>10384735
Do NOT buy that shit. Just don't. Those older 8bitdo controllers have completely shit D-pads. I ended up giving mine away because of all the accidental diagonals. If you're going to have to hunt for a Snes controller, then at least get one of those Nintendo switch online ones, or an old-ass Snes controller and an adapter. If you want further proof, Lon.tv on youtube made a pretty good review of these controllers and he showcases the shit diagonals. You have dodged a bullet.

>> No.10389710

>>10383358
>Why would you care about sticks with retro games?
Robotron

>> No.10389725

>>10377745
>one of the capacitors inside dies
Replace any damaged components.

>> No.10389736

Overall I'm not a huge fan of the Dualsense controller, but mapping stylus control in DS games to gyro was really fun

>> No.10390164

>>10379021
I played La-Mulana 2 to completion with this controller. Excellent.