/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10363178
Someone should make a romhack that inserts the entirety of Link's Awakening into this moment and you have to beat the game to continue playing Zelda 2.

>>10363178
who the fuck cares? its a videogame not some fucking brilliant work of literature with supersecret hidden subtext. Also, no you fucking retard. Nobody at any point in the development had this in mind.

>>10363190
/thread

>>10363190
It's the original plan though according to Dan

>>10363178
That's what I like to imagine

>>10363190
>its a videogame not some fucking brilliant work of literature with supersecret hidden subtext.
Doesn't have to be
>Nobody at any point in the development had this in mind.
Doesn't matter if the creators retrospectively want it to be the case

>>10363197
>threading yourself

>>10363190
>who the fuck cares? its a videogame not some fucking brilliant work of literature with supersecret hidden subtext.
How do you know?

>>10363239
It's just the Zelda seether and he always posts this when you say anything related to Zelda writing or worldbuilding
>IT'S NOT SOME DEEP THING, STOP PRETENDING IT'S SOME DEEP THING AAAHHHHHHHHH
Dare mention the timeline kek

>>10363208
This destroys the timeline, both canon and non canon. This insinuates that link is the same link through loz, taol and la, but he just randomly falls through dimensional rifts.

>>10363224
Apparently the creators retroactively didn't want that to be the case, because that was the original theory >>10363208
But Nintendo had to milk the fanbois soi titties for beta bucks and craped out a timeline different from the fan theories, just to be right.

>>10363272
It was a different time back then. Most people even considered LttP a soft remake of LoZ1.

>>10363279
So they retroactively want it to be the case now? Idgaf about any of this but make up your mind before you post

>>10363283
He actually worked on these games, I'll take his word over yours.

>>10363287
Huh? I was giving reasons to agree with him.

>>10363285
Wtf are you talking about? They changed it from LA being canon in taol, to it being something completely different part of the timeline.

>>10363285
Ohh, it was a bit ambiguous. I apologize :(

The actual truth is that the creation of a Zelda timeline is retroactive, and largely complete nonsense, especially when applied to the early games and spin-offs.

>>10363294
I made a general statement in reply to your general statement. Idk and don't care what a taol is or what you're talking about either. A creator is free to change his mind on things, though

>>10363272
>This insinuates that link is the same link through loz, taol and la
it's not the same Link from the first Zelda though

>>10363305
>A creator is free to change his mind on things, though
Yes, I agree, thought I don't think they did it for a good reason and I'm allowed to criticize them for it. Also, taol is the adventures of link and la is links awakening.

>>10363313
Read this pic.>>10363208
At the end it talks about links first adventure as a boy, which also insinuates that LoZ link is link from taol. It also says that la happens while link travels from west Hyrule to east Hyrule in taol. It's all th same link, according to this.

>>10363325
>"Or he had once again slipped into a parallel universe"

Why isn't this the official timeline, it's much fucking better and actually makes sense

>>10363317
Meant for >>10363306

So much broken English everywhere.

>>10363325
>>10363330
I hope they return to the ideas instead of continuing with the whole "Ocarina of Time Link le died"

>>10363272
Back then, NoA was pushing that it was the exact same Link in every game and used the excuse that centuries passed while Link was in Termina to explain why Hyrule changed so much between OoT and ALttP.

The assumption by most people was that it's Link from LttP... because he looks like Link from LttP.

>>10363305
>The actual truth is that the creation of a Zelda timeline is retroactive
Zelda has a timeline since 2 exists. It was always a debate where Zelda games fall into place, Miyamoto already telling us in the 90s that OoT is the first and Zelda 1, 2, ALttP and LA come after:
http://www.zeldalegends.net/index.php?n=interviews&id=1998-11-13-np-miya&m=html
MM is obviously a sequel to OoT, and WW and TP, despite taking liberties ("Legend"), are obviously two parallel narratives unfolding long after OoT. Denying the entire timeline just because there are a few odd ones out and Nintendo cares so much about it that they call for reassessments is extremely autistic. If I try to make sense of it, the only psychological portrait I can chalk this up to is that of fans of series like Final Fantasy that completely missed the boat on having a similar level of overarching continuity

>>10363371
This. The autistic timeline arguments came from the Seasons games and then WW and TP BOTH being set the exact same amount of time after OoT.

>>10363208
>restoring peace to the island
He certainly did make it peaceful.

>>10363178
no i dont

>>10363208
I all my years on this site, this is the first time I've ever seen someone use some literally-who translator from the dark ages of translation as a reputable source.

>>10363368
his hair is pink

>>10363390
he was their spokesguy on their main site, dog

>>10363398
Looking this guy up now and he doesn't seem to have all that much importance.
"Spokesguy on their main site" seems to have been little more that whoever answered the letters at Nintendo Power. Being the literal "mailbag" tab on a website for a year does not a "spokesguy" make.

>>10363190
I can't understand how someone can get so mad about a curious observation about Zelda games on a retro video game board

>>10363435
It's just anti-Zelda-kun

>>10363435
Link's Awakening brings out the worst in this board unfortunately.

>>10363376
I think you're misinterpreting my post. I'm saying it's extremely autistic to dismiss the entire timeline because of inconsistencies. Saying that Zelda has no timeline and saying that Zelda's timeline has inconsistencies (something 1. no one would deny, 2. can be explained away with the fact that Zelda stories are "legends" and 3. a door purposefully kept open for freedom and focus on a fun game) are two different conversations

>>10363424
He was the NoA dude in charge of translation and localization for a bunch of Nintendo games, including Zelda, so not quite a literal who, but yes, whatever he said back then can be taken with a mountain of salt. He made a lot of shit up that was never implied in the games or manuals in the original Japanese versions, and there being one Link spanning all the games released up until OoT was part of that nonsense (which they figured they could get away with because lol who cares it's children's video games). They quit that shit around the time of TWW.

>>10363450
Oh, I entirely agree. I was just pinpointing that that autism started with the WW/TP discrepancy. Even with the obvious inconsistencies present (the backstory of Z2 doesn't gel with the events of LttP, none of the maps match up, etc.) no one was ever really bothered by them until that point.

Personally, I think Link's Awakening was written with the same mindset as Super Mario Land, where they considered it a side thing and didn't really give a fuck if it followed the same rules as the main games. Even the plot screams "we don't know if we're ever going to mention this game again".

>>10363178
No.

And shame on you.

>>10363186
That's hilarious and brilliant.

>>10363190
>>10363435
OP is a zoomer and just posting what today's youtube recommended e-celeb is saying. He's even posting the exact same images from the video
https://youtu.be/QMX5YzwOEME?feature=shared&t=878
>>10363178
>>10363208
Y'all posting in a brainless e-celeb thread

>>10363668
and i'm sure you would know this because...? ruining a discussion because of your youtube obsession doesn't help

>>10363668
quite the expert aren't we

>timeline shit
Here we go

>>10363348
I didn't mind some of the dead link stuff, but it's all so disjointed and who gives a fuck if link died if it's not even the same link game to game anyways? If it was the same link it would make more sense and be more interesting.

>>10363359
I think it gives Zelda a great sci fi-esque twist. What the fuck is even going on in the timeline of Zelda? Megaman has a more structured series of events.

>>10363663
It should be canon Zelda ll

>>10364352
I feel the same way, it would be cool if they had used all these different elements of time travel for their timeline. Maybe Link experienced Kohonolint during his travel from one shore to the other in Adventure of Link. Maybe Ocarina of Time split the timeline in half. Maybe Termina fastforwarded him a hundred years into the future. It's really neat. I wish they were that creative to roll with that stuff.

>>10363359
> Franchise using isekai-ing constantly to tell smaller standalone stories, while also using it to timeskip the original world as they keep the same MC

Too kino for anyone to ever use

>>10363305
This.
However it seems that it is more related to link to the past. >>10363368 is correct. Even though timelines are just bullshit for Zelda.
One of the things that connects this Lonk to the one in Lonk to the past is the final battle. Among the boss rush is a version of Ganon who is basically the same as the link to the past final boss. This implies that Link has met and fought him and he’s a nightmare in the dream.

>each dev team just does whatever they want for each title
>series become huge so publisher feels the need to write a "canon" version after the fact

and people still care about said "canon"... Be it Zelda, Resident Evil, Castlevania, etc it's pitiful.

>>10363178
No, LA is an epilogue to ALttP. Adventure of Link is a follow-up to LoZ. In the original quadrilogy, the chronological order was ALttP, LA, LoZ, AoL,

The "timeline" was actually fine up to and including MM. It went OoT, MM, ALttP, LA, LoZ, AoL. It only started getting weird when Aonuma started incontinently pumping out OoT clones without any regard for rationality.

>>10363178
WHA DE FUCK IS DISSU
DERE NO GAMES WITH OCEANS IN DEM EXCEPT WINDO WAKAH (THE BESTEST ZELDER EVER)
RINKU NEVER SAIL OVER OCEAN EXCEPT IN MY GENIUS GAMESU
FUKKU DIS SHITTY GAME IT IS THE ULTIMATE FAIRURE GAME ALL GAMES I DIDN'T MAKE ARE FAIRURE ZELDER!!

>>10364603
canonfags are always retarded

>>10364645

Canon is cool if the people who create it actually care about it and work on it competently. That's a difficult task though, and it's not very rewarding, so hardly anybody ever bothers to do it.

>>10363668
Noted, however that anon's autistic screeching isn't warranted

>>10363178
No. That would be fucking stupid.

I suspect you're taking this from the fan theory that Link's Awakening takes place after Zelda 2, where Link went off to do a bit of soul-searching after having just fought his dark side. Except you're making it even dumber.

>>10365931
Not the OP, but it was a headcannon unironically pushed by NoA way back in the day on their website, back when they figured they could make shit up and no one would call them out on it.

>>10365931
How is it dumb? he crosses the sea in Zelda 2, there's a perfect placement for the chronology of Link's Awakening right there.

>>10363178
The theory I had heard (that I think Hyrule Historia ended up going with) is that Link's Awakening took place after the Oracle games.
I even saw a fan timeline that put Ancient Stone Tablets around the same time, since was absent in that game.

>>10364645
Agreed