/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10347252
so excited to go through the catalog of games only to be met with shittty euro trash.
Say what you want about Americans and Japs, at the end of the day they understand what a game is

Yes but it was good for audio and video editing
We need a retro /g/ board

>>10347267
>Say what you want about Americans and Japs,
>Japs
What about them? They are the undisputed Kings of retro game development. Probably still are all things considered

Its Achilles heel was the old joystick with only one button. Had it used an NES-like controller with more buttons, the playfield of games would look very differently.

>>10347272
Try living as american overseas and travelling, talking to Euros that basically speak with an american accent, have them talk shit then tell them where you are from.
It's insecurity I think, they make nothing cool

It was a pretty capable computer held back by mainly by a pretty low-quality software output, caused by British poverty row-styled development practices held over from the 8-bit era because game prices had to be kept extraordinarily low to combat rampant piracy. Also didn’t help that most games still needed to target the base Amiga 1000 configuration from 1985 even into the 90’s because not enough owners upgraded their machines.

>>10347252
depends on what kind of games you like

>>10347306
boooooo

>>10347306
Sorry the japs dominate in those games too. Power DoLLS baby!

>>10347252
What that the excuse your great uncle that worked at US Gold gave you?

>>10347269
If we had this, I would actually contribute meaningful content, and not just shit post all the time.

>releases a computer which is similar enough but slightly worse than Amiga
>all Amiga games until 1992 are bad Atari ST ports

>>10347437
Based

>>10347285
Post timestamp pic
>>10347285
>they make nothing cool
Suit yourself, bitch bastard.

>>10347437
Jack Tramiel had little to do with the development of the Amiga, even the OCS models weren't made with much of his actual input.
Also, The ST was a thing from ATARI, and by that I mean post-crash Atari aka Atari Corp. (Atari Games, the Coin-op Arcade Division was left with Warner Communications).

What's with nu/vr/'s hatred of the Amiga? I know most of the good games are not in genres console only players like, but the salt-level in these topics is unreal. What, did an Amiga 4000 kill your mother and rape your dog or something?

Still a unique experience to this day

>>10347437
The Atari was a lot sexier, I'll give it that.

>>10347507
>What's with nu/vr/'s hatred of the Amiga?
/vr/ has made threads shitting on the amiga and other personal computing hardware that was popular with the brittish for a very long time. I remember people trying to come to /g/ to make retro computing threads a decade ago because they were mad that /vr/ always shit on their favorite hardware.

vast majority of the good amiga arcade ports still are significantly superior on the turbografx or genesis

the r-type ii port is good though

>>10347559
Definitely true for the Amiga and even more so for the ZX Spectrum and Amstrad.CPC

>>10347267
Bongs can make good games. Perfect Dark is good

>>10347252
Other than the controller, what made this a terrible platform? When I look at amiga games, I see beautiful graphics in a style that you don't see anywhere else. Then I try to play it and it just doesn't feel right. Was it the machine or the abilities of the programmers? Or maybe I'm just console brained since thats what I played growing up.

>>10347559
I must not remember old /vr/ as well as I thought I did. Hope those guys eventually found a place to talk about the greatest retro system of all time.

>>10347437
>all Amiga games until 1992 are bad Atari ST ports
You sure about that? Some looked like speccy ports while ST ports looked great.

Hourly micro hate thread yawn, I’m increasingly convinced this board is just tech illiterate android phone emulating jeets who are totally enamored with consoles exclusively. Appreciating vintage computing and also acknowledging consoles had the better version of a lot of games is not mutually exclusive unless you’re some console obsessed millennial scared by anything other than a nice rounded off Mac GUI

>>10347754
We don't hate all computers here, /vr/ loves the PC-98. (^:

>>10347575
>Bongs make shit games
>Amiga dies
>Bongs start making good games all of a sudden like Theme Hospital

>>10347507
>What's with nu/vr/'s hatred of the Amiga?
It's not Nintendo. These threads are always made by bitter and angry tendies who feel the compulsion to aggressively attack every 16-bit hardware that is not they're own, which is quite funny, because the Amiga, despite being 5 whole years older, has some great hardware advantages, such as a 3 times faster CPU, which allowed it to easily perform 3D games on stock hardware that the SNES couldn't match even WITH it's cheating and expensive FX chip's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmcS-Br95r4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQgZC5stuqU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doD7hmlKun8

>>10347849
change tendies with americans and weebs and you are right

>>10347854
This. You don't see anyone shitting on IBM compatibles because that's what was popular in the US

>>10347437
Atari ST was pretty good though, it has processing power to beat a 286 and the graphics are better than EGA at least for many hundreds $ less than a pc. Actaully atari might be more forward thinking because on the amiga if you upgrade the CPU then it will spend a lot of time waiting for the custom chips while the atari doesn't.

>>10347252
No it was great, still heaps of games come out even now and for the 1200.

>>10347572
Western games like offroad were good and I like bionic commando.

I can only play the same games and talk about the same systems so much. As a LITERAL ameriMUTT I find these sort of systems fascinating. I just did a playthrough of one of my favorite games, R-Type, on the spectrum and loved it.

>>10347862
This, with emulation it’s so easy to dip into these libraries, and I don’t know about you but the novelty of something is part of the experience for me. I know the speccy version of r-type isn’t the definitive version, but it’s cool for what it is and I enjoy it *because* of that fact, not in spite if it.

>>10347849
>the most boring 3D racing game ever made
>some 3D techdemo with Atari 2600 sound effects nobody will ever enjoy playing
>the most generic FPS that would've been outdated in 1992
>all without music and barely any sound effects
There's a reason everyone laughs at this thing unless they have nostalgia.

>>10347252
I feel bad for eurofags

>>10347252
If you were into soccer/football vídeo games the Amiga was a fantastic choice, a lot of good stuff to play on it.

>>10347965
>soccer/football vídeo games
Probably the worst genre in the history of sports games

>>10347970
If you dislike the sport, sure. If you enjoy it though, it's a fun time to play some of them, despite all shovelware its got over time, some classics do still hold up and are fun.

>>10347916
>the most boring 3D racing game ever made
Faster and smoother than Stunt Race.
>some 3D techdemo with Atari 2600 sound effects nobody will ever enjoy playing
Smoother and more action than Star Fox.
>the most generic FPS that would've been outdated in 1992
Runs at least twice as fast as SNES Doom.
>everyone laughs
It's a nervous laugh, in you're case. Pretty funny how the SNES is shown up so thoroughly by 5 years older hardware, though. Enjoy you're 2.68 mhz.

>>10348018
>Enjoy you're 2.68 mhz
I and everyone else sane will enjoy playing well designed games instead of near silent techdemos with insomnia curing gameplay.

Why are amiga fans like this, bros?

>>10347849
Hi, auster

>>10348067
Holy shit lmao

>>10348067
kek which video is comment for?

>>10347284
... But there are joysticks with more than one button for the system anon. And a controller too. I had 2 with 2 buttons and one with 3, they even worked on the mega drive. You Americans really have a chip on your shoulder

>>10347890
Glad there are some people here that can appreciate things and not screech at the thought of games on other platforms that aren't nintendo

AAAAAARGH

>>10347831
>/vr/ loves the PC98
No they don't. They love posting the same CGs for gamer cred. If they did I could actually talk about it.

>>10347854
>change tendies with americans
This, but they're also the same. The NES did incredibly well earlier in the US, since it didn't have 8-bit computers to compete with and thanks to heavier marketing in the US. In UK and many European countries it took until the early 90s for the NES to gain a foot-hold.

>>10347252
I still enjoy playing Moonstone.

>>10347252
If it was terrible, why was it so fucking good? When I was a kid I had a NES, Sega Megadrive, intermittent access to a SNES, and a PC t play DOS-games on. The Amiga blew all of them out of the water when it came to graphics, music and interesting games that didn't fit the same mold as the others. I always loved going to my cousins home and playing on their Amiga because the games were just better, more imaginative and with often better graphics.

>>10347507
Most of /vr/ are console-only americans, aka the lowest of the low, most retarded of the retards.

>>10347437
Was he the Bernie Stolar of his time?

>>10348067
Hey, that's literally me! I'm famous

>>10347252

almost every system of an earlier generation is a terrible system for something compared to later generations...

this would hold true until the advent of forced online-only systems...

/thread

>>10347252
t. never owned one

The culture clash on this board is Gen X/older millennial who were brought up thinking that having a minority opinion made you cool vs younger millennial/Zoomer who find safety in numbers and denounce anything that's not majority opinion.

>>10348067
Kek

>>10347284
I never understood why that was the standard controller for the Amiga. It was perfectly capable of supporting more buttons, but only one was standard.

>>10347437
>>10347553
Shame its baseline audio chip was an ancient 3 voice PSG comparable to what you'd find in an 8-bit machine.

>>10348728
Because it was already the standard well before the Amiga.

It's the same standard that the Atari 2600 (and still used in the ST) already used. And was used by earlier Commodore machines like the VIC-20 and C64.
Even the MSX, SMS and Mega Drive controllers were at least partly compatible to the old Atari standard - it was very widespread.

brit here, yeah most of the amiga catalog isnt great, platformers for example almost universally suck. but strategy and some other genres are legit on it.

>>10348840
Strategy games are too advanced for the simple american brain anon, please understand. Unless the game has a funny little creature jumping on platforms they do not know what to do, and view the game as bad.

>>10348845
cant lie anon, i was that guy in my early gaming years. then played syndicate worms etc on a friends machine and lost interest in most other genres

Favorite Amiga games GO

My list:
Speedball 2
Worms
Moonstone
Cannon fodder 1 & 2

>>10348862
It’s good.
I simply agree.

>>10348862
- Lemmings
- Lotus 1
- Pizza Connection
- Realms of Arkania

>>10348862
the greatest rpg of all time

>>10347252
>The amiga was a really terrible system for games.
Retard take. What the Amiga sucked at was everything other than games. Holy shit, the flickering in 640x400 mode... the ST was so much nicer in 640x400, even if it was just B&W.
I spent much of my gaming time on the Amiga playing just Dungeon Master, which was a shitty ST port (of an excellent game), like most Amiga games.

>>10348845
Say you what? Most American games in the Amiga's time were all strategy crap.

>>10347267
Rare made the best nes and snes platformer of all time.

>>10347284
Sonic only needs 1 button and it's better than any SNES platformer so you are wrong.

>>10348067
>>10348539
Based.

Didn't get this joke as a kid.

>>10348997
She makes me ROCK hard

Don't forget the kino demo scene (that is still going)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXV5-GkKUsk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jziQBWQxvok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89wq5EoXy-0

>>10348534
Bernie was already an Atari employee, making sure to fuck up the developers of Lynx as much as possible.

>>10349124
That's gneiss, anon.

>>10348997
I don't know how "people" think this shit looks good

>>10349129
Nobody cares about demos

>>10347252
Amiga was a really good system for games. It was the first personal computer to have hardware-supported scrolling, sprites, sample playback and 32 colors on screen at once (or more, but in practice 32 was the limit). Keep in mind it came out before VGA or Sound Blaster.

Granted, a lot of Amiga games are shit, but that's irrelevant to the question of whether the system itself was good.

>>10348423
You're talking about CD32 or some shit. OG Amiga only supports one button and had no joysticks whatsoever with more than one (even if there's more physical buttons, they are all mapped to the same function).

>>10348965
Rare did not make a single top 15 platformer on the NES. Way to out yourself as a retard

>>10348734
Many of ST's games allowed you to to play the audio out via the midi port, if you were a kid rich enough to have your parents buy you a synthesizer.

>>10349185
The CD-FX was a good system because of its excellent 2D graphics and the fact that it was designed for expandability.

>>10349170
It's soul. The product of some random Brit being silly without having to get an okay from ten different Japanese corporate businessmen to be allowed to released it.

>>10349206
It's shit

>>10349194
How many is "Many"? Asking for everyone who's not convinced 12 years is "Many" enough to be 18 years.

>>10347267
It might be eurotrash but it can be hardcore and visually amazing eurotrash
there's some very interesting stuff on the system

>>10348997
Fuck you, I have the title theme stuck in my head now

>>10348067
Kids, remember to control your power level

>>10348067
>when autistic hobbyist goes to a mainstream comment section after years of cancerous niche forum discussion

*makes amiggers seethe for 30 years*

>>10349183
That's a lie, Dr. dipshit.

>>10349407
*a few dozen smelly gen Xrs care about demos

>>10347267
>japs
lmao no
Americans are the only people who know how to make video games because we invented the damn things. Euros and Japs can only make cheap imitations that might look pretty or sound good but they always have abhorrent gameplay because they can not understand the fundamentals.

>>10349520
During the mid to late 80s American games were a fucking joke. Nip games from that era were just so much better. Americans started making really innovative games in the 90s then in the late 00s they went to shit and we're back to Nip games being better

>>10347252
nigger

>>10349129
I've always thought the demo scene is just lame shit, you've got all these cool techniques and you just make the retro equivalent of a movie "game"

>>10349520
>if my nation invented it, you are always better at making it.
Nah.
Now go back to Battle.net, plebbit, Ubisoft Connect, or current-year SomethingAwful.

>>10349520
>posts a guy who got famous by playing a Japanese-developed game
The Arcade Big Three is japanese:
Space Invaders
Donkey Kong
Pac-Man
deal with it.

>>10349828
Speak for yourself.

>>10349841
NTA but Ubisoft is French

>>10349848
Sure, but
>leaving out other arcade hits such as Berzerk, Warlords, Cinematronics Vector Arcade games such as Black Widow, Robotron 2084, NARC, Star Wars Arcade games, Joust, Klax, Star Trek: Strategic Operations Simulator, Major and Rampage

>>10349848
The Arcade Big Three are:
Space Indvaders
Asteroids
Defender
Cuck-Man and Onions Kong were only successful because they were casual games targeted towards the female demographic.

For me, it's Supremacy

>>10349865
lmao

>>10349865
>cuck man
WOW HAVEN'T heard that before! /s
>OnIOnS kOnG
What is it with you Ataritards and even more so, Snoys, conjuring up excuses to downplay & trash a game and its impact on the industry for being made by a company you personally dislike!?
>if its not successful with just boys and men, its automatically a failure
nice logic there, captain down syndrome.

>>10349908
Cope and seethe. Also what the fuck does Sony have to do with discussion you autist?

>gaming platform that heavily relies on western games is bad

No shit

>>10349860
>arcade hits such as
>shit nobody has ever heard of outside of londonstan
lol

>>10349941
>Cope and Seethe
Yeah yeah fuck you too. I know now that I assumed too much in my previous post. that being said, referring to Pac Man as "Cuck Man" makes less sense than using the term "Fuck Man". Onions Kong? how is Donkey Kong onions, dear shartbrain? If you don't like Donkey Kong, fine, go ahead and hate it all you damn want. Lastly, how is Donkey Kong appealing mainly to the female demographic anyway? That would be more along the lines of Barbie for NES and the Casio Loopy, as well as some dating Sims for the NEC PC-88, Sharp MZ, Sharp X1, NEC PC-98, Fujitsu FM-7, PC-Engine (Hucard and CD games) SFC, PS1, Sega Saturn, and The NEC PC-FX

>>10350006
>somebody insults a Nintendo game on the internet
>autist writes a novel defending Miyamoto-san's honor
Pathetic

>>10347507
I'm assuming it's because of the extremely zealous euro computer fags like in pic related who shit up retro communities

>>10350008
I never mentioned Miyamoto in that pic, dipshit.
Go back to your damn inner city favela town, groid bitchboy. Do you even know what a novel is, fucktard? >>10350006 is not a novel. Goodbye and up yours, shitmask.

>>10349534
Lmao retard, Ultima and Wizardry literally saved Japanese gaming.
Wizardry in particular was extremely influential and we still see bits of it in games to this day.
America was on the cutting edge of PC games while the rest of the world was still fumbling around with microcomputers and consoles. You are correct however that the US mostly ignored consoles in the 80's outside of a few developers most notably Atari and Activision while Midway was making the best Arcade games of the decade.
I'm sorry but most great games can be traced back to the US with very few exceptions.

>>10348963
This honestly, and I say this as a yuro and a strategy-nut. SSI, Microprose, Avalon Hill, Cinemaware, all American. MechForce was made by an American based on FASA's Battletech. In general the most autistic strategy- and wargames were by Americans. Britain had Gollop and Singleton though. And Space Crusade was made by Brits.

>>10350127
Japanese gaming didn't need saving ever, now american gaming did indeed crash in the early 80s because the quality of their games was that awful, europeans were pretty much same but since most of them were playing on computers the standards kept staying low and no one was bothered about it since if you wanted good games you bought a console. And american games in the arcades also sucked compared to what the japanese were releasing, maybe in the late 70s they were serious competition but after that nah.

>I sure do love licensed platformers!

>>10347252
It was good for other things though.

>>10347365
Most jap strategy were casual garbage. And not even GOOD casual garbage until the GBA era when Fire Emblem and Advance Wars solved the console strategy genre's problems.

>>10348067
This is gold. I didn't know worms was an Amiga original.

>>10349187
You should play these consoles before posting.

>>10350180
>t.Doctor asswipe

>>10350162
and pachinko
and mahjong
and horse racing
and slowdowns
and music that sounds like it's playing from a public bathroom stall

>>10349968
This is the brain of someone on 21st Chromosome error AKA Down Syndrome.

>>10349968
Everyone has heard of rampage.

>>10350134
>In general the most autistic strategy- and wargames were by Americans.
Fun fact, a lot of early strategy and wargames on computers were actually computer versions of tabletop and board games that were popular prior to computer games coming along and eating their lunch. Wizardry was specifically praised for delivering on a computer version of a D&D dungeon dive campaign.

>>10350180
>Most jap strategy were casual garbage.
I guess you might think this if you never played pc88 or pc98 games.

>>10350213
Worms: The Director's Cut was even an Amiga exclusive and the last Worms game with the OG look of the worms.

>>10350289
nta but what's worth checking out? Besides Koei games, I know those already.

>>10348741
Yeah, but why use a standard that was already ancient at the time? If the Amiga was supposed to be this advanced computer pushing the boundaries of 80s technology, making a single button Atari joystick the default makes no sense. At the very least they could've bundled it with a two button joystick to make that the default.

>>10349194
That always struck me as an odd combination of features. The ST had an excellent MIDI controller that musicians would continue using for decades, but the onboard synthesizer chip was less capable than the SID chip in the C64.

If Amiga was worthwhile it wouldn't have a remaining fanbase entirely comprised of furfags.

>>10348067
what video is this from?

>>10350235
The stairs, bro

>>10350385
>its not worthwhile because its remaining fanbase is entirely of furfags, a group I have a raging contempt towards.
Ok sure, whatever floats your damn boat, anon.

>>10350421
How does that cum pizza taste?

>>10350127
Literal smoothbrain take

>>10350221
There about 50 games better than Battletoads. Fuck off

>>10350490
No there isn't. Battletoads has it all. Ball busting difficulty but not impossible allowing for a lot of replay value, exaggerated cartoon graphics and great level variety. It has no weak points.

>>10350385
That's literally the Nintendo fanbase due to the scotformer saturation. They also tend to be all kinds of the worst deviantart sexual perversions.
One who lives in a poo filled ABD shouldn't fuck the first dog as they say.

>>10348862

>>10347754
It is just zoomer meme format - they "postironically" regurgitate the shortest and most pointless version of it endlessly with the amount of posts being the only focus (if you think that's how TikTok works, you are right). Unfortunately, some of them have seen OI ME AMIGGER meme and thought it is the funniest shit ever. Give it time, their attention span is short.

>>10348423
>But there are joysticks with more than one button for the system anon. And a controller too.
Yeah and they were never shipped with the system (and were mostly third party) so it doesn't count.

>>10351326
before the rule change this low quality trash would be deleted. now its the whole board.

>>10347285
>they make nothing cool

are you fucking stupid?

of course you are

you are American

>>10347754
Good post

>>10347269
>We need a retro /g/ board
That would actually be pretty cool

>>10347252
I do sorta agree with you Anon.
I feel like the Amiga had amazing potential for games, but developers focused too much on making amazing graphics/sound for the games then the games themselves.
Some of the best games on Amiga like Lemmings don't really use the Amiga's hardware to its fullest, and are just good games first

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>>10350213
worms came out near the end of amiga lifecycle, it took Andy years to find a publisher because the game was so novel nobody understood it. the game was also written in BASIC.

>>10351573
Doesn't help that Amiga fans really love talking about the graphics/sound.
Can't go five seconds without hearing about Shadow Of The Beast, and when asked about the gameplay, the responses are various forms of "uhhh", "ummm", and "hmmm".

>>10350374
Why spend money on expensive sound chips when audiophiles can connect any MIDI device they want and have better music quality than you could ever provide.

>>10352178
I count 1 + 2 + 96 buttons

>>10347252
Only because the majority of the games developed for it were in the UK. It's an amazing Platform that was only really utilized by the most untalented hacks in the world at making games.

>>10347252
>>10347267
> seething nintentoddlers that could never compete
every single time. the commodore community apologizes for the lack of bing bing wahoo games developed for children and for people that molest children. ie: most of this thread.

>>10352189
> just makes up fantasy nonsense
it's as if you get your hot takes from youtubers. i know they are your only source of contact with the outside world but consider stepping outside for once (outside of your mandated reporting to your local police) and find real friends.

>>10351331
The trash was here by 2018, rule change just gave them more shit to be retarded about.

>>10352313
None of the kids I raped or their parents know about the amiga. Sorry, amiga users only exist online.

Man I put some life into Amiga games. F1GP, Frontier, Captive, Railroad Tycoon, Cannon Fodder, Sensi Soccer, Civ. Deep games.

>>10352302
>if someone makes fun of amateur western microcomp games, then it must be nintendo fans
Where did this meme come from?

>>10352695
It's retarded and Nintendo fans are retarded, so it fits.

>>10352698
That sounds more like you have nintendo fans rent free.
Also anyone who grew up with japanese games (nintendo, sega, Sony, arcades) will make fun of western shitware

>>10352710
>sega
Mega Drive users fondly remember many of the same games
>sony
Didn't exist
>arcades
Not a home system

Cope harder, tendie.

>>10352763
It is also worth a mention that Sega, Sony, Microsoft, NEC, arcade fans and so on, never start shit like this. It's always tendies looking to start these fights. Quite funny considering the hardwares they have to work with.

>>10347252
The only reason pieces of garbage like this and the spectrum exist is they were an easy sell to moms back in the 80s and 90s where they could say: "do you want a machine that just plays videogames that waste their time, or do you want them to be writing computer code and learning all kinds of cool shit and become really smart and good at computers", and some kids also got sold on this idea.

In reality all kids should have just gotten a proper console like a NES, SNES and then bought a PC when they became good and at a reasonable price around 1996 and nothing would be lost. Plenty could be lost however from having junk computer games to play all growing up, missing out, potentially then using a lot of time going back through them later. However you look at it, it was not a good idea, get the kid a proper console.

>>10352821
NES and SNES are the only proper consoles? Interesting

>>10352823
I said like the NES and SNES, do you know what "like" means? Master System, Genesis, Neogeo, Gameboy, all great systems. Even something like PC-Engine, while it may not have a lot of games at least it had -you know SOME games, other than Sensible Soccer and whatever 1 other decent game the Amiga had.

>>10352831
Nice attempt at a save, too bad you let you're cover slip a little too much, tendie.

>>10352831
I just guess it’s odd you said like but only mentioned those two, that’s all

>>10352831
Settlers
Lemmings
Worms
Dune 2
Monkey Island 1&2, Indiana Jones - Fate of Atlantis
Colonization
Civilization
Wing Commander
Cannon Fodder
X-Com
Elite 2
Lotus 2
HeroQuest
Flashback
Another World
Pirates
Syndicate
Chaos Engine
Moonstone
Mega lo Mania

Shall I go on, zoomie?

>>10352763
>Mega Drive users fondly remember many of the same games
Ah yes, remember when Sega fans liked jet bong willy? Me neither.
Rent free dude.

>>10352865
>worse versions of multiplat titles
The mark of a bad library.

>>10352880
Ask a Mega Drive owner about his games, tendie.
It will likely include some game that was on the Amiga as well like Another World, Aladdin, Golden Axe, Mortal Kombat 2, James Pond 2, Desert Strike, Micro Machines, Sensible Soccer, ...

>>10352915
Yeah, how could Sega fans forget about classics like James pond, Bong Wars and of course, amiga got a great cropped Port of Aladdin!
Kek, rent free

>>10352921
This cope is just sad now.

>>10352915
I like how the Amiga version of each of those games is the worst version.

>>10352942
That's already wrong for the first one.
I guess all you can do is regurgitate reddit memes.

>>10352981
Another World is a cinematic platformer so which platform does it best is irrelevant since the game is bad to begin with.

>>10352985
>I'm not a tendie what about those darn Sega people!
>No, no one on the Mega Drive played games that were on the Amiga!
>No, those games don't count because le bad ports meme
>No, that doesn't count because >cinematic
This is ridiculous, tendie. Just take the L.

>>10353005
The games considered the best on Amiga when ported to consoles were considered mediocre at best. When games were ported from other platforms to Amiga the version on Amiga was always the shittiest.

>>10353013
You never played Worms did you?

>>10352902
Snes has worse multiplats than genesis. Ps2, Xbox and gc all had bad versions of dreamcast games.

>>10353020
Better on countless other platforms.

>>10353029
None of those platforms will have recommended lists consisting entirely of inferior ports.

>>10353036
Like what? Most games mentioned here had Amiga as their primary platform.
The rest are excellent ports of DOS games that allowed people to enjoy them on much cheaper hardware.

>>10353045
>Most games mentioned here had Amiga as their primary platform
And were instantly improved once they left.
>The rest are excellent ports of DOS games
*inferior ports

>>10353030
I don't care about that right now. You admit Worms isn't a mediocre game, right?

>>10353062
Yeah, Lemmings was really improved on the SNES lmao

>>10353080
bro, all these games like Civ, Dune 2, Worms and others that you probably think are PC or Amiga only actually are on genesis/SNES it's just nobody ever mentions them because most are tier 4 games on the platforms. We already have the games, and sure some of the games are fun - Civ for sure a AAA title. Worms - meh, if you're into it I'm sure it's amazing.

What you end up with is inferior versions of 1 or 2 great games and a handful of pretty good games. There's a reason noone is playing or talking about Secret of Monkey Island today and it's because the title and initial graphics are a lot better than the actual game.

I noticed someone was putting James Pond 2 as one of the best games for the Amiga. I mean if you're reaching that far to find a good game... lol.

>>10352981
Still correct for all the games except Sensible Soccer and maybe James Pond 2.
But who gives a shit about James Pond 2?

>>10352821
The mindset of the entitled nine to ten year olds who demanded a Mario for Christmas.

Revisionists aka kids that weren't alive don't know that PC was the absolutely shittest computer gaming platform until 93/94. It's easy to talk shit about a platform that was released in 85 like Amiga but the fact is it was the best gaming computer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgFPnocmf7Q
>1991
>3D
>open world
>Can use vehicle
>can enter building
>inventory
>can blow up stuff
>can talk
>1991

>>10352710
I grew up with Japanese games, but they were never my favorite. The first console I have memories of playing on was the NES, and after that I had a Megadrive. I dropped both as soon as I got my hand on a PC and Amiga though because western games are/were just generally better. They are more deep and imaginative, though often less polished I will admit.

>>10352902
The majority of those games were Amiga first and exported to other platforms

>>10353013
This post just proves that you are a zoomer. I was actually alive when the Amiga was a current platform, and in those days I looked forward to playing on the Amiga because the games looked better than they did on other platforms. Of course you can cherrypick cases where that isn't the case, but generally the Amiga looked and sounded better.

>>10352902
The NES has a bad library because all the good games had better ports to other systems and the ones that didn't are all shit otherwise they would've gotten ports. This is your position and you don't even realize how stupid it is.
Is being mentally ill your 1 defining personality trait? Fucking /v/ mongoloid.

>>10347269
There are already several OLD forums out there about vintage gear, all of them good because they have moderation.

Amazon adbots are hard at work here, plus people who create shit threads just to bump comfy threads off the board. 5 years ago this was a slow board with aggressive jannies who would ban people for low quality shit. Now you can find the same 100+ bait threads always here and they get auto-reposted (with slight variations) as soon as they go stale.

>>10347267
>Say what you want about Americans and Japs, at the end of the day they understand what a game is
No, you didn't. The average American consumer had no idea. You were brought up on nuance-free 100 word reviews/glorified ads in dog shit vidya magazines. You were uninformed then and nothing has really changed. No one else had a gaming crash and no one else is leading the charge into another one (muh LGBT, race swap, pronouns, hyper masculine women, etc.) Stop acting like you're clued up, because you're not.
Yurop. Rent free in your head until the day you DIE.

>>10350289
I too am waiting on this anon to name some games. I hope you don't say Dragon Knight 4 because that game is as casual as it gets.

Me and me amiger
We will do it better
Super awesome computer
Super awesome maneuvers

I was just some British guy
Walking in the rain
when my eyes spied
A computer guy
Talking to a sewer drain
He said to me, "ay bri'ish guy"
"Can I pick your brain?"
"Come back to my computer shop
I promise I'm not insane!?"

Me and me amiger
We will do it better
super awesome computer
Super awesome maneuvers

I followed this computer guy
Through the streets of London
I thought he was pacman disguised as Peter Frampton
We got on the trolley
Northbound through to essex
He told me the grandness of amigers magic madness

Me and me amiger
We will will do it better
Super awesome computer
Super awesome maneuvers

Off the stop and walked a bit
Before entering his shoppe
It was chalked to the brim with electronics that were for sale in big lots
Around the bend, behind the doors and down the rabbit hole
He guided me through machinery and technology galore

Me and me amiger
We will do it better
Super awesome computer
Super awesome maneuvers

When we finally reached the secret gate that kept the plague from killing kings
He said to me, in dim lit halls like breath from a ghost like if ice was a knife
"Before I let you into to see this spectacle, we must recite the special words that make the demons in the machine come to life"

Me and me amiger
We will do it better
Super awesome computer
Super awesome maneuvers

Cont.

>>10354901
When we spoke the magic words
The gate lifted quick
And the light from the screen was blinding and intense
It sounded like an alien, robotic angel
Speaking in tounges like grand hypnotic fables
My tounge was unable to stay inside my mouth
as he booted up robocod I squeaked like a mouse.

Me and me amiger
We will do it better
Super awesome computer
Super awesome maneuvers

As I played and played and played till I snored
The computer guy said "you will 'ave no more!"
I asked "but please let me play just a little longer"
He told me that too much would make into a monster
But if I would like to build one myself
his shoppe has all the parts top drawer and top shelf

Me and me amiger
We will do it better
Super awesome computer
Super awesome maneuvers

So I took his pitch and bought a set of brand new computer chips
Fiddling with it's innards like a bottle with toy ships
I listen to the music and I see the colors sprint
I played with me amiger til my spirit left my flesh
And still I play amiger in my cozy coffin den
Waiting for the computer guy to come see an old freind

>>10347437
And that's how the mafia works

>>10347252
The amiga was a powerful system wasted on a continent with no talent in regards to video game production

>>10355158
Wouldn't it be better on Atari ST since that one has a faster CPU for 3D calculations?

An Amiga vs a x68000 port is a great example of why Europe is a meme technology wise.

>>10355185
Amiga is 100% an American computer. Meanwhile, Europe made Acorn Archimedes.

>>10355189
The majority of support and software made for it was European though

>>10355189
LMAO... No.

>>10355185
The X68000 is 2 years newer and cost about $1000 more.

>>10355221
Practically the same system though if you look at the specs

>>10355237
X68000's CPU is 3MHz faster. Atari ST had just 1MHz advantage over Amiga, yet it was very noticeable when you needed raw calculating power like in polygonal 3D games.

>>10350127
It's really bizarre how much weebs on this board try to deny how much influence America and Europe had on Japan. The genres they're credited with inventing are just western genres simplified to the point that anyone with a pulse could solve. Most of their good games are basically just taking two different western concepts and mixing them together, bragging about how awesome Japan is for this is like an American bragging about how awesome pizza is.
>>10352189
It's a beat 'em up with platforming elements where you play as a man cursed by a wizard. You wander around the world finding items to use against the wizard, while fighting through hordes of fast enemies. It's solid, but very hard thanks to the speed of enemies and an inability to restore (much?) health. The console versions are all inferior thanks to a glitch greatly increasing the speed of enemies.
I'm surprised people here aren't more fond of it, it's more like a Japanese game than a European one.

>>10355247
Skill issue.

>>10355237
>>10355301
What the fuck are you talking about? The X68000 is newer and more expensive, so obviously the specs are better. It would be pretty pathetic for Sharp if it wasn't way better than the Amiga.

>>10349848
Didn't this guy cheat in a tournament as well?

Is there a way to get Amiga roms separately? I want to emulate them on linux but they're only included with the amigaforever software that's Windows only.

>>10355360
Do you want to legally buy Kickstart roms from current copyright holders?

>>10355370
Do I have any other options?

>>10355386
I heard some kids nowadays just download stuff from the internet without compensating the people who hold the legal rights to it.

>>10355386
Use Windows you faggoty hipster

>>10355402
Nah. I don't think I will.

>>10355221
>>10355237
I compared it with the migger 500 (same release year) and typed out a whole post on the differences, but I'll sum it up as 3 MHz difference being quite substantial for 1987 especially for raw power needs and the X68K's graphics chipsets (plural) being pretty insane for the time. I guess the migger edges it in sound capabilities, but FM synth can definitely sound nice too. Otherwise fork over another 26.800 yen for a MIDI board (An ethernet board went for 268.000 yen, a steep price to pay for low rez pornography)
The price difference is significantly more insane though, especially when you adjust.
A release migger 500 was $699 ($1900 now). This was also the migger that actually sold well unlike the A2000, but even that was a full $1000 cheaper at 1495). It was more expandable though.
A release X68K requires a bit more conversion. It was 369.000 yen in march of '87 and the exchange rate closed at 146,2 yen per dollar that month, so about $2524 on launch ($6855 now). The yen would close on 121 to the dollar that year and I have this feeling that the dollar inflation calc I used uses the end of year so let's add that one too to be thorough. ($3049, $8200 inflated). That's a bit of a difference. It's like comparing speccies to miggers.
Currencies are fucking weak these days lmao.

>>10355401
I'm willing to pay for roms if they go towards the developers.

>>10355405
>>10355409
>licux AND a retarded paypig
The rarest combination on Earth.

>>10355409
Developers that worked for a company that has been defunct for 30 years? That worked for a salary and have no rights or stakes to the intellectual property whatsoever?

>>10355427
Nevermind then.

>>10349520
Does Billy Mitchell have adult onset dwarfism or something? I swear every year his head slowly morphs towards the classic dwarf look.

>>10355436
Commodore went bankrupt decades ago and currently there are several companies owning chunks of Amiga trademarks and copyrights, which sometimes fight each other over who owns what. Jay Miner's relatives won't hate you for pirating Kickstart roms.

>>10349185
Nah I never had a cd 32 - just a 500+ and then a 1200 and I remember on a lot of games you could use more than one button on the joystick for different controls. Yes some games you couldn't but you can on a lot of games

>>10355554
I like how in WHDLoad distributions some older games are patched to support extra buttons on CD32 gamepad.

>>10351329
Seeing as a lot of games do support more buttons on joystick surely it counts. Anyway why does that straw grasp make you seethe?

>>10355561
Ah that's cool, I didn't know that thanks anon. I haven't emulated it much since my childhood one died. I bought the mini last year but havent played it as much as I'd like but I'm looking forward to adding some games to it very soon. Im quite excited to play Wizkid again

Anyway, people should play the best version of Metal Gear 1.

>mate buys a new game
>go round his house with a blank disc or two
>the game is now yours as well
>promise to return the favour next time you buy a game
Just one element of the soul of owning microcomputers that console peasants never experienced.