/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10344426
except they did?

>>10344426
Western developed games on console were often shit. The good quality western games were made for the PC.

>>10344426
Western games surpassed japanese 2d(like Cuphead or Ori) and 3D(anything from the last 20 years really)

>>10344426
It's not that the west was better, it's that a lot of Japanese studios had a really hard time adapting to the newer tech, especially when shit started going HD.

>Japan never made a 3D game as good as GTA:SA or Max Payne
Those are kind of mediocre.
Japan made Super Monkey Ball, which is objectively the best game ever.

Japan raped the West in the 5th gen
The West raped Japan in the 7th gen

>>10344446
how was 3D->HD harder to adapt than 2D->3D?

>>10344431
Don't weaken your posts with unnecessary question marks.

Rayman looks pretty good

>>10344459
In marketing, maybe. Japan still made most of the games I actually like from that era.
From Software probably had the biggest impact, for better or for worse.

>>10344426
The west has yet to figure out how to make a good game. Japan exceeds at both.

>>10344470
Rayperson

>>10344426
Japan's strengths are 2D and third person 3D. No clue WHY but they never got the handle on first person games and first person shooters. When the first person shooter craze took off in the 00's, it coincided with other Japanese problems and they fell off temporarily. now third person games are making a comeback and even quite dominant, and Japan is back to being big.

Has Nintendo japan ever released a first person game? not had a 2nd party dev like Retro make Metroid Prime, but made in Glorious Nippon? Yeah, I don 'think they ever will either. They made Splatoon which is a third person shooter.

>>10344479
Rayman has heterosexual intercourse with cows

>>10344470
What shader? It looks nice.

>>10344493
>Japan is back to being big.
they're just making the same slop the west is making. I swear even the 7th gen had more creativity

>>10344462
That's a very good question but I don't know the answer. But the switch to HD is pretty much THE reason the west started to overtake them.

>>10344502
Dunno, not my capture.

>>10344517
Nintendo is fuck huge and dominates sales charts. they only had a stumble with the WiiU but they're right back to their Wii era dominance. Capcom is having the biggest sales ever, and ironically selling more than the "Call of Duty" games they lusted after 10 years ago but they're doing it with Resident Evil and MonHun titles. Konami is dead for big AAA games but looks like they're trying to re-enter the market with re-releases and I think their first big AAA game with MGS3 Remake in like what since 2014? MGS3 remake is a nice place to start. They will likely remake MGS1 next. Or maybe MG1 and MG2?

That's the good news. The bad news:

>L5 is lingering on the verge of death
>Square is run by morons and blowing money on stupid games no one wanted

>>10344426
>the west never made a 2D game as good as Super Mario World
That's where you're wrong.
>more levels
>better powerup's
>actually challenging

>>10344729
Kid Chameleon is shit and you know it. It looks like ass, it sounds like farts, and the gameplay is shit. Super Mario World is a better game in every way possible, and I say this as a huge Sega fanboy.

>>10344426
>>Japan never made a 3D game as good as GTA:SA or Max Payne
those don't even have good game design for western games, let alone japanese

this board is gutter trash nowadays

>>10344825
It is gutter trash, but it's also the only place to really discuss retro games.

>gta sa and max Payne
>ghetto garbage open world trash and cinema slop
I hate nu /vr/ and /v/ immigrants

Japan was better at 3D during the /vr/ era

>>10344524
The reality is Japan ceded HD consoles to the west because they were too busy making games for the DS and to a lesser extent PSP and Wii that ranged from dominating sales to keeping pace with much lower dev costs . There's this weird view about the PS3 that Japanese games were suddenly poverty stuff like Gust and Compile Heart that were completely ignored on PS2 because the bigger Japanese studios weren't releasing as much for it. The 3DS and Vita performed much worse and the Wii U and Xbone flopped meaning the PS4 was the runaway best selling hardware of last generation and drove them all back into "high end home consoles"

>>10345035
...and then Switch happened.

>>10345035
>The reality is Japan ceded HD consoles to the west because they were too busy making games for the DS
Then why were there so few good games for the DS?

>>10344915
>mac payne
>cinema
lmao

It's 30 years since DOOM and the nips still haven't managed to make an FPS.

>>10345675
.....so that just happened.

Other than the Metal Gear Solid series I don't think I've ever played a truly great Japanese game. And even that one came from Kojima being inspired by western cinema.