/vr/ - Retro Games

Pigfat sprite, I can do it 1/4 that

>>10327410
You didn't make that pixelshit.

>>10327410
Requires further bobbing

i think you ran out of rage bait ideas op
posting something good and pretending it's bad only works with games, we can all see that alucard strides confidently (unlike you who shuffles like a jackass), whereas if you just made a thread shitting on sotn, people who haven't played that wouldn't know otherwise

You sure sound very calm rn bro that's all that matters

>>10327409
So much better than Juste's walking animation.

>the official “I just got pussy for the first time” walk

>>10327416
y r u ghey?

>>10327409
This is proof that, for normies, smoothness trumps basically any other factor when it comes to "good animation"

>>10327535
Post a good walk cycle then, if you are so great.

>>10327535
It's appropriate for Alucard because he's a graceful, elegant kind of bishonen dude so his animations are really smooth and flowing.

It's not like the game doesn't have more violent animations with cut frames or anything.

>>10327409
Looks perfect

>>10327409
>this sprite made zoomers shit and piss in fear

>>10327531
Is that Libbie?

>>10327429
mario if he european

>>10327775
Now that's Dark Metamorphosis

>>10327414
jesus thighs

His arms are circling in the wrong direction.

>>10327409

>>10327535
he's a fucking vampire you retard.

>>10327410
>6 unique frames
are you even trying

>>10327429
you are like little baby

>>10328210
A complete walk cycle in only 3 KB?!?

>>10327409
It's perfect, thanks. Look at him. The confidence in his stride, the arms moving forward with each step as he knows he's coming to fuck Dracula's shit. You wish you had 1/10 of his sheer chad energy he's emitting right now.

>>10327535
>normies
>>>/reddit/
anyway, you do realize "good" animation usually exaggerates things? Disney did that all the time.

>>10327409
>>10327409

>>10328447
That isn't even native resolution!
BEHOLD!

>>10328564
t. giganormie

>>10327409
Violent Storm

>>10327531
Whore!!!!!

>>10327409

that reminds me to check in Pigsy's Megadrive port.

>>10328382
Perfectly sums up modern QOL improvements.

>>10327409
It's called a Chad stride you dickless fuck

So many /vr/ anons getting personally defensive about awkward-looking ways of walking? Shocking.

>>10327409
Soul, kino, and perfection.

>>10327535
Ask me how I know you grew up playing games by yourself alone in your room.

>>10327429
>>10328382
i laff everytim

>>10328210
>>10328673

>>10330908
at least this one tries to get key frames even though he doesn't get them right

>>10330908
Right makes me feel nauseous

>>10330387
Because the alternative is unbearable for your tiny entrenched ego, of course. It's not as if I don't know this is /vr/ anon.

>>10330952
>chatgpt post

>>10330956
>painfully human reply

>>10327409

>>10330973
Simon turned into a hunchback who shat his pants, very nice

>>10331061
This one looks good to be honest.

>>10331061
The best one yet.

>>10329945
Why did they downgrade the prototype Sonic 2 sprite animation and why is the Sonic CD sprite so fucking bad?

>>10331061
The only one that actually looks good

>>10327409
I like the sprite animation, what game is it from?

>>10331162
Problem Dhampyr

>>10331162
Jet Set Willy starring Vampire Hunter D

>>10331131
It's got no bounce to it. One of the satisfying things about Sonic's cycles is how he looks like he's putting some effort into walking up to speed then he glides effortlessly in his full run.

For you, it's the run cycle.
For me, it's the stop cycle.

>>10331234
But that's not a cycle

>>10331247
>right click
>Loop video
It is now, biiiiiitch

Is there any male vampire who isn't a faggot?

>>10331250
Ok, now it's a bad cycle.

>>10331263
no. being a vampire is only good on hot women.

>>10329945
I’ve been told that I have an awkward way of walking and I have no idea what I can do about it.

>>10331281
>ego status: DAMAGED
love that you picked this hill to die on lol

>>10330973
>simon

>>10331351
You're an eccentric yet confident man, I like you.

>>10327409
What a chad

>>10331061
Pretty sure this was used in Metroid Planets.

>>10331234
I don't know why he's so tensed up as he straightens into that idle pose but it's so fucking cool.

>>10328382
I hate games that do this so, so much.

>>10331162
Symphony of the Night
>>10331131
The CD one is nice, though.

>>10331863
>The CD one is nice
Nigga what are you smoking? It's literally the Sonic 1 sprite but worse

>>10331891
I prefer it in gameplay, the head bobbing is a bit distracting for me, I don't know why

>>10331891
I agree with him. I like that it looks weird, just like everything else in that game. It's oddly satisfying.

>>10330973
The original slow pimp walk is cooler. It radiates an aura of confidence and smugness.

>>10331061
I unironically don't have a problem with this one

>>10329806
zombies ate my neighbors?

>>10332352
>batman if he was a tranny on heels

>>10332352
This one feels particularly fucked because I'm pretty Batman's head DOES bob in the original game.

>>10332359
How about this one, then? Clearly it's better.

>>10332364
God I hate this. Also I double checked and yes Batman's head bobs by a pixel as he runs in the actual game. Some of these feel like unfair comparisons for that reason.

>>10332370
What's wrong with bobbing? It adds dynamics when it's tasteful.

>>10332372
Nothing is wrong with bobbing. What I'm implying here is that Batman one feels unfair because he's not showing how the actual animation works in game, and then posts his "upgrade" as if he's knows what the fuck he's doing.

>>10331263
alucard's a chad
gets all da hoes

>>10332375
Fair enough, anon.

>>10331729
It happens when you stop right on a ledge. He's tensing his rippling bishounen body to keep from falling over.

>>10332480
you can just stop posting these. we get the idea. the joke has reached its conclusion. you don't earn bonus points once it's become tiresome

>>10332484
Mmmmh, no.

>>10332364
>Ninja who glides across ground
>Ninja who stomps with every footfall

>>10332590
this one is good

>>10332695
You don't lean forward when you run. The hitbox is fucked and the feet aren't where your character is.

>>10328673
based
>>10329945
Holy swag on those Tails animations, but the Sonic Mania curved feet trigger me

>>10332075
Lester the unlikely

>>10332723
>but the Sonic Mania curved feet trigger me
Pretty sure those frames only show for a second before you go into full speed in-game. They're meant to be a transition.

>>10332075
Kek, just GTFO

>>10328382
seeing sprites with so many frames legitimately hurts my eyes

>>10332892
You're welcome.

>>10332590
are these being made in earnest? i guess people are allowed to fuck around however, but this looks like utter dogshit.

the legs. what happened to the legs, he looks grotesque. is this on purpose, it really doesn't work for the aesthetic.
i also don't think a swordsman is supposed to let his blade flap around on every step like that, motherfucker gonna chop off his cartoonishly disproportionate dick. p sure it should be like a gun, not necessarily in front of your face, but otherwise you keep it steady so it's ready. a single-handed sword anyway.
just saying it makes link look like an amateur.

in any case, all these animations are movement for the sake of movement. i enjoy the overdone mario ones but the rest feel souced from some poindexter cynically baiting for followers.
but maybe it's just for fun and i'm the cynical one.

>>10333461
Aside from >>10331061 which looks like it was done with genuine effort to try and replicate how Samus runs in SM, I feel like they're just shitposts making fun of people who think more frames = better

>>10331263

>>10333506
>I feel like they're just shitposts making fun of people who think more frames = better
They're USED for that purpose because it came out of /v/tards sperging out about it, but no expressly created for said purpose.
This whole thread is just a mirror of /v/ shitposting anyway, from the low quality template text to the lead in with the age that lead to this shit. This board is doomed.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/AvfL9kyfttvK2ZCzpACWDg/order/asc/
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/Fz5WqChatk3-95M1IKWAcw/order/asc/
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/jlPnlp2EaRuXMvOrhrerVA/order/asc/

>>10333594
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/here%27s%20your%2C%20bro/type/op/
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/here%27s%20your%20controller%2C%20bro/type/op/

>>10333594
>>10333604
Call it rent free or whatever, but the fact I can sense something is unironically Reddit makes me detest the current state of the board and poster quality. Some fags weren't kidding when they said 4chan's become side gig for normalfags and Redditors to shitpost on without getting downdooted.

>>10327409
I always thought it was a variation on the running man

>>10327409
I like to backslide everywhere

>>10333583
anon...

>>10332364
Why is he laughing?

>>10329945
I've always walked awkwardly
I saw footage of myself walking down a corridor recently and I move like a resident evil character

>>10331061
This one isn't so bad.

>>10333848
Because it's just the SM run, it's not making up shit over what they THINK it would look like with more frames.

>>10327409
Alucard walks? I thought he back dashes only

>>10327531
wtf kind of walk cycle is that?

>calls it a walk cycle but character is clearly, obviously, inarguably running

are you fucking serious

>>10327429
based

>>10330973
tip-toes

>>10327429
I want an entire game like this.

>>10332590
anything is better than the original leek holding faggot

>>10334046
just emulate mario wonder

>>10327531
Cute goat. Would cuddle

>>10327535
>asked to post an example of what he considers good
>does not
Every time.

>>10330908
This pretty accurately shows the difference between 8 bit MM games and MM 7/8 on SNES
sometimes, less is more

>>10331234

>>10334169
kino

>>10331061

what a strawman, the 4 frame original in motion is so fast and the silhouette is so clean for the few bytes it uses, and this gif shows nothing of what it looks like for real

>>10331263
ENTER

>>10334072
>Demands examples instead of actually arguing
>The token middle step required to post the pre-decided reply to whatever example was provided never materializes
VERY rude. Do people even know how to fake discuss anymore?

>>10333461
>are these being made in earnest?
Obviously.

I read in some the-art-of book somewhere (I think it was about a Tomm Moore film) one of the most important points regarding animation theory—and extensible to art in general—that still manages to go over the heads of many animation pro-sumers and even actual professionals in all kinds of modern essays or just casual takes. "Animation is an art form with principles but no rules."

Not even going into the modern obsession with the 12 Principles as a rigid checklist to "review" animation, "Bounce" and extra frames basically have as much intrinsic value as a plus as they do as a con. It's all about context and purpose, i.e. general style and specific characterization in this case.

Alucard doesn't move in the game in anything close to the way a real person moves, but regardless of how much of that is intentional in the case of his walk cycle specially, I can agree that it kinda works since he's supposed to be a weird, otherworldly magical being. That said, basically every other animation of his has a flowing, graceful quality that's kinda absent in the cycle yeah.

>>10332364
The fact that he didn't bob his head when running always made he feel more "ninja" to me. The upgrade killed it completely

>>10335608
Yeah, the lack of upper arc makes sense with the soft weightless steps of a ninja (even in live action classic moves they run that way), just like it doesn't with a turbochad forceful stride like Alucard's. Proof that these are creative choices that shouldn't be streamlined as rules.

How about HD remakes?

>>10335673
That looks retarded like fucking bob the builder tier baby slop.

>>10335673
Toddler Man X

>>10334664
>Mario if he glitch

>>10335673
MMX1-3 with the MMX4-6 graphics would be even better.

>>10336405
X4-6 were huge downgrades, graphically. Hideous games. I wish the opposite. Someone make 4-6 look like 1-3.

>>10336413
Sounds like the Mega Man X Corrupted fangame sounds like something you might like if it gets released.

>>10331263
post chin now

>>10327748
he...is European. Where do you think Italy is?

>>10336413
Shut the fuck up you retarded hipster. Both styles look great.

>>10327414
MANOS SEXO

>>10327531
Libbie getting BLACKED

>>10336532
he's got a point, they're not hideous or anything but they're too chunky
especially in x4 when you see x's gut just protrude violently on the stage select like damn double doesn't look so bad with that next to him

Ugh, not when they miss the mark THAT badly.

>>10337012
Meant for >>10335673

>>10337012
The PS1 sprites are my favorite look for Zero, particularly the ones with the different saber in X6.
>>10336945
X had that look in X3's weapon get and promotional artwork as well, I think it's more of a design difference thing.

>>10331263
This guy tapped a different 11/10 babe every single night.

Videogame animation should not be viewed out of context. Looping gifs were a mistake.

>>10336945
What gut?

>>10332590
Looks even more like a penis.

>>10334046
The gif was made by the creator of Guinnea Pig Parcour, a game decades in the making and inspired by the creators first pet.
Dude learned how to animate frame by frame just for that purpose.
https://twitter.com/GPigParkour/status/1652084774377517056

>>10333583
Dio is super gay

>>10336945
He's just posing with his torso pushed out. He doesn't have a gut.

>>10335673

>>10332364

>*stomp stomp stomp stomp stomp*

>>10337451
Coincidentally, the quintessential great vampire horror movie.

>>10336517
Italy is African

I know this board is for olds to jerk off to nostalgia but Alucard's animation really impressed me when I saw it first. Smoothness can add a lot of fidelity depending on execution, the classic choppy style definitely has it's own appeal

>>10338269
if you read the thread you'll see that pretty much everyone agrees that his animation is geeat if even perfect.
What we ridicule are those "upgrades" which idiots do to sprites and which are nearly always absolute crap, typically adding unnecessary movement like hat flapping and excessive bobbing

>>10332919
The "upgrade" on this one is legitimately great, remaster a bit less so.

>>10332919
>>10338346
No, the 20 frames versions make Samus look like a paper doll with limbs pinned on and spinning around independently instead of a human with a single body whose limbs influence each other.

>>10338381
Shut up you pedantic fucking retard.

>>10338394
How is it pedantic to explain in simple terms why those animations look worse than the original? Would you rather I just say:
>OLD GOOD
>NEW BAD
And not explain why at all?

>>10338283
Nta, but what you're describing is not pretty much everyone considering that particular animation good. It's pretty much everyone rejecting criticism of any kind of a game considered good by, again, pretty much everyone, regardless of how specific, inane and not particularly critical of the game as a whole that criticism is. It's basic knee-jerk reaction to perceived contrarianism, quickly snowballing into doubling and tripling down. You just called that animation "perfect" ffs.

OP may as well have commented on the menu font, and "pretty much everyone" would suddenly have a strong opinions regarding its unquestionably objective formal perfection.

>>10331263
Alucard never did anything gay though? The cuckflix show doesn't count, otherwise half the cast would be atheist (funny since their fucking whip gets its powers from god) niggers.

>>10338263
to be fair, Silicians look pretty swarthy.

>>10327409
>I'm gonna sthop you, daddy!
sotn was a mistake.

>>10338398
He would.

>>10332352
This just makes him look goofy.

>>10327409
>>10327429
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CzEhpXwzZ4k&si=n6QZlwAUu2a2hCoo

>>10338398
That guy didn't know what pedantic meant when he said it.

>>10337941
WHO CUT HOLES IN THEIR FACES?!

>>10340520
No, it's actually right. Pointless attention to details in an attempt to make a point against something that looks completely fine.

>>10341212
It doesn't look fine, it's awful.

>>10341581
You don't even have your own opinions.

>>10341587
My opinion is what this entire series of replies has been about. I don't know if it's purely because of the increased framerate or because of alterations made to the animations, but each one makes Samus' torso and head look progressively stiffer and by extension her limbs seem more and more like freely rotating pinned on appendages instead of being part of a cohesive whole.

>>10331216
>>10331891
>>10331925
The head shouldn't bob. Sonic is meant to go fast like a racecar, racecars don't bob. Perfect aerodynamics mean absolute steadiness. CD and Crackers are the best ones in this respect

>>10343258
That's a really good point, actually.

>>10343363
It's not a good point. Sonic's head bobs only when he's building up speed, and to continue the car comparison, once his feet turn into wheels, there is no bobbing anymore.
This is why bobbing is better: it creates a visual feedback between the moment he's building up speed, and the moment he's at cruise control speed.

>>10343374
Shit, I checked and you're right. I was talking out of my ass, I've actually never played Sonic myself

>>10343420
>I've actually never played Sonic myself
Typical Sonic fan.

>>10327409
Nobody even sees this because you spend 90% of the game shuffling backwards

>>10327803

>>10327409
D this count?

>>10327420
>i think you ran out of rage bait ideas op
>200 replies
the problem is you retards love responding to stuff like this. the board is low quality because the users are low quality. if by sheer accident something high quality ever gets posted, it's ignored.