/vr/ - Retro Games

>>10284310
>best controller for retro gaming.
BWHAHAHAHAHHAHA

>>10284310
I mean... who told you that? How can this be the best controller for retro when the D-Pad's not in the optimal spot for retro? Also, if you can spend the money on an expensive controller like this, it would've been better to spend it on a couple of controllers for the systems you prefer to play, so you'd have a more accurate and immersive time while doing so... I'm sorry, OP... but skill issue.

>>10284318
/vr/ was hyping this shit for ages

>>10284323
post archive link
there are several controller threads
all the time, literally
heres one right now that isn't even slid yet:
>>10275143

>>10284315
kek you guys are such dicks

>>10284331
>shilling 8bitdo
Everyone on /vr/ shits on that.

>>10284323
>/vr/ was hyping this shit for ages
I see... well, I don't go into controller threads too much, but if people really did tell you that, I feel it should've been simple to see that it was BS for a simple reason... the D-Pad's in the wrong spot, at least for retro... it is a nice 8-Direction D-Pad and all, but for that you're better of with Saturn.

>>10284338
its not bad
only \hhg\ tards hate tablet & phone users
8shitdo is actually mostly decent
same with retrobit and hyperkin
obv use common sense and stick to side-rails
but overall the quality is much better than it was during the bluetooth 1.0 era
also shits 2.4ghz now nibba

if I was gonna use a single controller it would be ds4. but I am not a gay so I use the controller that came with whatever system I am emulating

Actually it turns out this controller is *completely unusable on Windows*

I just installed the Xbox Accessories App and I get this error (not my screenshot, but same thing).
So, wow. They sold a controller that literally cannot be used on PC. Oh well, thankfully I bought off amazon and can get a full refund with free shipping. How does the biggest pc company in the world literally sell $150 paperweights? lol

>>10284343
recs: raphnet, brooks & misterfpga snac adapters

>>10284349
kek wtf
restart your pc and retry
i never had to download shit i have several xbone controllers and the only thing i downloaded was xbox gamebar (now disabled)
so i could screen record\screenshot in game quickly

>>10284310
i didn't have a microsoft account when i bought it (got one a year later though) and they let me use it so idk man
unless that's not a series x, looks like a new model

>>10284361
No good, it's a paperweight. It's brand new out of the box, I haven't fucked with the firmware at all, but Xbox Accessories app keeps saying "your new firmware isn't supported on PC yet lol!"
and the m$ help page is all "to downgrade your firmware, connect your controller in the xbox accessories app and..."
what a pile of shit

>>10284370
i mean, windows does has its share of fuckups
so when you restart (not shutdown, RESTART)
plug the controller in and launch like, finalburn neo and try to map the buttons NOTHING happens?

what the fuck kek

Restart and keep unplugging and plugging it back in. Windows will detect it eventually unless one of your USB ports is broken or something

>>10284395
>>10284404
Tried front panel USB and it appears as a "Controller (Xbox One for Windows)" in the old gamepad calibration tool. However... buttons 13-16 keep spazzing out whenever any other input is pressed, sticks/dpad moved, or the controller is just shaken. So I can't bind buttons workably in any program because it keeps thinking those button are being pressed. If I edit a config manually, since Start is button 13, it just acts like I'm pressing start over and over and pausing emulated games. Tried to update driver directly through Device Manager, says it's already the latest driver available.

I'm just absolutely stunned that microsoft sells a controller that doesn't connect to the only proprietary tool you can use to setup and calibrate it.

I don't know what the Xbox accessories app nonsense is for but it should have installed drivers after you plugged it in automatically. Try booting up some emulators and see if you can Map buttons with it

>>10284310
looks like a good controller for modern gaming but why would you ever think of it for 2d games when it doesn't even seem to have a d-pad, and whatever that thing is that serves as it is miles out in the middle so you have to crane

>>10284417
The "dish" thing is replaceable with a dpad.

>>10284408
weird
it could be the MOTION flagging as inputs
lay that bitch perfectly flat and try it again
my sidewinder2 did that on some emu mappers with the "twist" functionality
i had to lay it flat during the mapping


honestly i think you got a fake controller from amazon and should just return it and buy one from bestbuy or somethin

>>10284423
>lay that bitch perfectly flat and try it again
If it's not being touched at all, nothing seems to happen, but second I press any button, even as lightly as possible trying not to disturb it, buttons 13-16 light up like mad. I guess it's sending a bunch of extra xbox-specific data that's getting misread but since I can't actually access it in the ms-proprietary app there's no way to shut it off.

It feels plenty real, broke the seals on the box myself, thing weighs a ton, smells like a new car, has all the extra dumb parts. But yeah it's going back to amazon.

I just wish for the love of god I could get a gamepad with working extra buttons on it I can bind to external tasks like screenshot and my 3rd party voice comm software. Thought those back paddles would be able to do it, but I can't even get that far. Hori's 6-button stuff let me down, they just act as duplicates of existing buttons.

>>10284429
try https://www.x360ce.com/
i use this for specific finnicky controllers that refused to work with certain vidya\emus

>>10284310
I never said that was the best.
Fuck you for your selective hearing and just going with what you want to hear from those few faggots that like the xbox controller.

P.s. Get an 8bitdo pro 2 if only for it having the dpad in the correct position.
Get it from fucking amazon, if you don't like it then return it free of charge.

It's fine as a default for 6th gen gaming and above. For retrotendo I'd still get a 64 controller of some kind unless 3 prongs tickles your anus, and I'd argue you'd still want a snes pad. For sega youre just going to want all the controllers

>>10284420
still, with where it is, to press up you have to, what, kind of roll your thumb on its side? to go right you kind of press down, push out, and roll to the side a little all at the same time? sloppy

>>10284349
Wait wut, that shit needs a companion app? WTF 360 controllers (wired) work right out of the box. Only controller that requires a little effort to setup is a Dualshock 3.

>>10284310
Ironically never had an issue with it on Linux

>>10284510
Same here lol
You can do a lot better for retro games in terms of controllers though
Of course it does depend on what you're emulating

>>10284310
>You can't even start using it without installing "Xbox Accessories App" and connecting to a Microsoft Live account.

I have that controller and I don't have to do all of that. You are doing something wrong.

>>10284594
Don't worry, I can't even get that far.
>>10284408
>>10284349

>>10284310
>Fuck all you people telling me this was the best controller for retro gaming.
I'd tell you to go fuck yourself, but apparently you're already set on fucking the voices in your head. Also, skill issue.

>>10284310
Don't listen to people who jerk off modern console pads that cost a testicle and a clit. Get a retro pad, or get one of these.

This will last you a couple years probably, it will eventually get all soft and gummy on you on the buttons you press the most, but that's life in 2023, everything is cheap shit designed to break and need replacing. I have Genesis gamepads from the early 90s that could double as melee weapons and still work just fine, but that is what it is.

>>10284714
What bugs me about that (I have it) is those two extra face buttons can't be used for anything useful. They're just builtin combos for the shoulder buttons.

There's just something wrong with this timeline that no one will add extra remappable-to-anything buttons to basic gamepad design
>noo you have enough you don't need any more

>>10284318
I wanted it to be good so badly. The D-Pad is such a downgrade because it takes much more force to actuate, especially when it comes to diagonals. You think you could just roll your thumb like with any other disc-shaped D-Pad but no, you got reach that diagonal and really press it.

>>10284342
I haven't used 8shitdo ever since I was burned by their D-Pad quality 5 years ago, but I hear things have vastly improved since then

>>10284737
They should've made them L3/R3

You know, I was just going to ask about this controller, in regards to N64 emulation. The ability to adjust the stick tension seems like it would an ideal fix for the dead zone issue.

>>10284737
>There's just something wrong with this timeline that no one will add extra remappable-to-anything buttons to basic gamepad design
because they aren't supported by any of the common APIs, and making your controller not one of the common APIs means it won't work out of the box.
Only Steam bothered to add stuff to the Steam Deck because they control the API on there.

>>10284310
>You can't even start using it without installing "Xbox Accessories App" and connecting to a Microsoft Live account
anon i'm so sorry about your retardation

>>10284871
>didn't read the thread
Big oof

>>10284874
i'm sorry you don't know how to use a controller, anon

>>10284881
>didn't read the thread
>ego got provoked
>doubles down on embarrassing himself
lmao, no skin off my back if you want to make yourself into a laughingstock

>>10284417
I've played several old 2D games with it, and it's *CLACK CLACK CLACK* actually pretty *CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK* comfortable.
Especially if you're deaf.

>>10284323
I'm laughing at you getting totally gaslighted by anons, anon. I remember. Sometimes people promote products for reasons other than recreation. Don't talk about that too specifically if you like the place though. I like the place. Better than listening to disney tell me that some neo-pixar movie was SECRETLY BASED. The guys who make and distribute retro related stuff online, they are keeping my precious retro gaming hobby alive in a way. The old tv's, the emulation toys, the accessories, it sustains, proves, and agitates interest. Some people are contrarians and want to see everything gatekept due to a twisted antisocial value system. I like seeing it alive and taking people in.

>>10285063
In the interest of being even remotely helpful to you I wanna suggest asking /g/ how to do it in a PRE-EXISTING questions thread. Good luck with your gay controller, connecting to microsoft shit is pretty gay and I'm sorry that happened to you.

>>10285063
That's a pretty long-winded fantasy you drafted up there anon. Get any subscribers to your blog with those fevered imaginings?

>>10284754
They did with the Xbox One and Switch versions.

>>10284343
>not actually being a ds4 chad and using it for everything

>>10285109
I assume this was an attempt at a more lucid remark complaining about some specific aspect of what I wrote, but which imploded by the pressure of its own inanity
>people sell things and others buy them
meds now amirite, pure fantasy, pottery! haha

>>10285383
You seem inordinately upset that no one subscribed to your blog. Did you remember to update the Wordpress version?

>>10284310
>that dpad
No modern controller is good for retro gaming unless you need the dpad to be constantly reading diagonal inputs

>>10285386
I'm about as angry about your deep cutting arguments as you have been clever in implementing any.

>>10285408
lmao you've lost it
your ego got wounded and now you're addicted to replying to defend yourself lol

>>10285410
Ah and you are not replying, and therefore are smart and have no ego. Well played.

>>10285415
>seething because his blogpost got eviscerated
>meanwhile all I have to do is continue shitposting him to death
lmao you'll never recover
you can never take back being a blogposting faggot

Anon I've genuinely never heard someone shill an Xbone controller for retro games in my life. Even looking at the photo its not hard to tell its designed more for 3D games than 2D ones.
For that you'll want a PS3 or PS4 controller, an 8bitdo, a Retrobit Sega Saturn controller, even a Wii U controller hooked up via a mayflash adapter. Anything besides an Xbox controller.

>>10285757
Xbone controller is excellent for PC/retro gaming actually. MS controllers in general are very good, 360 just had a dad d-pad
>Even looking at the photo its not hard to tell its designed more for 3D games than 2D ones
Elite's d-pad is generally considered one of the best. I use the regular Xbone though so can't comment, regular one is good too
>PS3 or PS4 controller
PS3 controllers are dogshit, especially if it's sixaxis, it feels so bad to hold, it's weightless. And my PS4 controller has a drifting stick, so fuck that one too. MS always builds controllers to last, that's one thing they do well. Their PC peripherals were always great too

>>10284310
Well why would you buy a modern controller for retro gaming in the first place

Just buy a USB Genesis/SNES controller

>>10285776
Because they don't have any extra buttons.

>>10285776
Probably because owning one controller for both modern and retro games is more convenient and cheaper. Using Genesis/SNES controller for systems that aren't Genesis/SNES is just as silly as using the Xbone one let's be honest here

>>10285780
They do, though. Retro-Bit's Genesis controllers have L and R buttons as well as Home and Select, while the Switch and 8-bitdo controllers have snapshot and favorite buttons.

>>10285785
If you want that then go for something like >>10284331 or the Pro 2 controller. But this is /vr/

>>10285815
The nice thing about MS controllers is they're natively compatible with modern PC games. PC games display MS controller buttons natively, have been doing that for over a decade now.
>this is /vr/
Well PS2 is /vr/ and dualshock is a lot closer to the xbone controller than whatever that is

>>10284338
I own the one without the Joysticks.
It's not that bad, looks and feels just like a SNES controller and is perfect for trips and hotel rooms.

>>10284310
So sorry bro, but I'll just save you time and explain the timeline you're about to run into:

>emulation is free and cool and i dont need the old stuff anyways
>oh but keyboard isnt a great fit so i'll get a cheap third party controller for $20
>hmm this controller isnt great i'll get the real thing for $50
>oh its not great for this specific console so im better off getting the original controller and adapter for $50 total
>actually I need to do this for every console im emulating because they really obviously aren't one-size-fits-all controllers
>wow i sure spent a lot on controllers and adapters
>oh but this kind of game only works on the real hardware
>ah but i need an old crt
>hey i got one now the game and console and crt and thats 200-300
>great now i can do it all so i'll spend more on the console
>hmm theres another console that i wanna play thats not great emulated gee it sure has been a long time since i emulated (months)
>oh just another console
>and i'll mod it
>hey this is basically the price of all those adapters i got a long time ago
>ok ill just use one modded console
>actually ill get the original console for this one its not great otherwise
>and i'll mod that
>well its only $100 for an ode, discs are a pain in the ass anyway to burn

may as well just skip to the end and go with the real hardware.

>>10284310
>connect to MS whenever you want to play a game

>implying you can't use your controller when offline

wtf is wrong with motherfuckers

>>10284331
I'd buy this is SNES dpad wasn't shit, why can't they go all the way with a frankenpad and give it a dpad like the Saturn or this >>10284714

>>10284737
Use the switch on the top retard.

>>10284754
You can either have the shoulder buttons as L1/L2 and R1/R2 in which case you have duplicate R1/R2, or as L3/R3 and L1/L2 so you have all the buttons on a PS3

>>10286507
>Use the switch on the top retard.
They aren't extra buttons, they're just duplicate buttons. I don't need duplicate buttons. I need extra buttons for external features.

>>10284310
>need an account to use controller

Holy fucking shit, r u serious?
I dropped these fags when their Xbone required registration online to use, but even their fucking accessories need that shit now? Jesus, i regret ever buying an original xbox and giving them money.

Anyone else using this guy? I've been playing PSX game with it and if feels pretty good. Requires an adapter, but that was inexpensive.

>>10284884
nta but kinda funny needing to come to 4chan to vent/troubleshoot pairing a controller, you sound kinda mad for "no skin off my back"

>>10286948
Weird that you come in to a thread just to whine that it hurt your feelings, lol.

>>10286952
again not me, just a bystander pointing out you sound like a dumb faggot cause I think you need to hear it

>>10286806
the d-pad on this thing is a huge piece of shit. i used my wii as an emulator box for years using that controller and thank god the snes classic came around and used a wiimote plug

>windows: it just works
Anyway if you want a gamepad that will last, get a logitech f310 or one of those mayflash adapters that works on n64, saturn and ps1/ps2 controllers and you have everything you need. I hate to have to say it but I feel the quality of controllers has only gone down a lot in the last 10-15 years. You can still buy good keyboards and good mice, but gamepads? You're fucked. bBuy something old and reliable, always hard-wired, none of this wireless battery "why does it smell like a plastic fire inside every time I open the battery case" 8bitdo chink shit either.

>>10284323
lotta retards here

>>10285419
you're both gay bruised ego faggots, fuck off

>>10286959
>he says, still in the thread that hurt his feelings

>>10284341
>it is a nice 8-Direction D-Pad and all
D pads should only ever have 4 directions

>>10287009
>projecting
no hard feelings chud

>>10284310
shoulda bought a dualsense

>>10284752
me too. but I dont believe when I hear theyve improved because the ones saying that are the same shill mofos who never called out the shit dpad in the first place

>>10285220
much rather use a snes pad for snes, nes pad for nes, genesis pad for genesis, arcade stick for arcade games etc.. but I use the ds4 for ps1 to ps5. I'll use a ps1 pad with ps1 if analog sticks arent needed and a ds3 for ps2 when pressure sensitive buttons are needed, but overall the ds4 is the best ps pad overall, even though you cant put the thing down without triggering r2 or l2 and you gotta put a vinyl sticker over the useless light bar to keep it from reflecting off your tv, but other than that its perfect. the ds5 is a major ergonomic downgrade

>>10285780
wireless numpad bruh. map all your savestate, screenshot, fastforward and rewind shit there, and now you got a lower half to a coloeco controller too

>>10286726
wait until the home button becomes a fingerprint scanner so they know the person playing has a paid xbox streaming subscription

>>10284310
the original xbox one controller is the best all around controller I've ever used. Its frustrating they went back to fucky dpads

>>10285859
I think that, for the CRT issue, shaders can get the job done well enough. As for controllers, getting a few USB controllers can work if you know what systems you prefer to emulate most, I think the ideal setup is 4 controllers, one with symmetrical analog sticks, one asymmetrical, one with 6 face buttons and one with 4, so to me it's DualSense, XSX, Saturn and SNES, now setup all of your stuff, your ROMs, shaders and controllers, and it's done.

Did you, the nigger OP, "debloat" your computer with meme scripts?

>>10288272
Crt shaders work until you want to play a light gun game or for whatever reason the timing of a rhythm game is never on point

>>10288284
Agreed, though they still work in most other cases, and for people that aren't into those genres then they work 100% for them, which is why I feel that for most people it's an ideal solution over spending on a CRT and real hardware to go along with it.

>>10288301
>Agreed
Noted

>>10284310
>You can't even start using it without installing "Xbox Accessories App" and connecting to a Microsoft Live account

wat? I'm pretty sure all Xbox controllers are the same as far as drivers are concerned. assuming win10 you should just plug it in and it'll work. every one Ive had did.

>>10286714
NTA but again, use the switch. It lets you map each button individually. I've been using this controller for like 5 years and have always used it this way, you're doing it wrong.

>>10288272
For me it's a Sega 6-Button style controller (the RetroBit ones, MD30, or Fighting Commander are all solid), and a DualShock for evertything else. I'd like to eventually get controllers/adapters for each system but just with those two you can easily get by.

>giving money to Microsoft when there are acceptable alternatives

Leave this place forever

I like my 8bitdio pro so far. Works on the laptop and has a phone attachment.

>>10290740
No way, trash d-pad.

>>10290743
Works for me autist

>>10284310
>Press #808080 to move right

>>10284318
>How can this be the best controller for retro when the D-Pad's not in the optimal spot for retro?
don't know if the D-pad position really makes that much of a difference but okay boomer.

>>10284310
>believing shills about controllers
>buying anything Microsoft, ever
You literally fell for an adbot, LOL.

I'm pretty satisfied with Saturn controllers for games that don't need analog sticks, but what about games that do? Wired only, none of this battery shit. I'd use PS1/PS2 controllers but the sticks always breaking down and leaking plastic shit is nasty.

I have a couple Hori controllers and they're alright I guess. Anything niche I might not have heard of, since checking search engines for gamepads just gets you the same worthless shit?

>>10284310
Oh look another passive aggressive bullshit thread attacking another system that is not (that which shall never be named except to praise it). To anyone who is new to this shithole this board IS NOT for retro games or systems but is for a people who hate retro games and systems and people who love them and need a space space to troll them using three emulated titles by a Japanese maker to ruin the board. They will obsessively attack any and all other games and systems no matter how good or enjoyed. See this thread. if you want to talk about retro games go to /v/ this board is shit.

>>10284506
360 needed the X-Input .dll

>>10284310
no hard feelings

>>10285859
kek, pretty true.
But that's kind of the fun of /vr/ it's about the journey.
I'm personally fine with original hardware & hdmi upscalers because I don't have the autism for a CRT, especially given the 2nd hand prices

>>10286245

Is it normal for the face buttons on Saturn controllers to feel really mushy? I have a RetroBit Saturn controller and the C button in particular has this really weird mushy/spongey feel. Did I just get a bad unit or is this just how Saturn controllers feel?

>>10290740
I just got one as a backup for my DS4 that's starting to drift (which is hilarious because I barely even play 3D games or touch the sticks) and it's pretty dope. I especially like the feel of the shoulder buttons and the bluetooth is very responsive. Will be interesting to see how long it lasts.
>>10292506
The face buttons on mine are a mixed bag; a/b/c are on the mushy side but x/y/z are pretty soild. Can't tell you if that's true to the original, I never had one. And I'm one of those weirdos who likes a little mushiness, so it doesn't bother me either way

>>10284323
Those are just xtroons (former Segafags). Note that any post recommending that piece of shit is full of snoytendy consolewar faggotry. You're far better off with a PS5 controller for Nintendo/PSX shit and a retrobit Saturn controller for Sega shit

I need some advice... are there any 3rd party USB or Bluetooth SEGA Saturn controllers that work on GNU/Linux? All of the ones I've found mention Windows and MacOS, and sometimes Steam, we do have Proton, but I don't know if it'd work for a controller...

>>10284310
>You can't even start using it without installing "Xbox Accessories App" and connecting to a Microsoft Live account.
You're a fucking idiot.

>>10284331
>it's an 8-bitdon't shill thread
>the fuckup who made it is marketing their dumbest model with sticks and no handles
It all starts to make sense now.

Xbox dpads are so dogshit it's not even funny.

wtf is this, a JAV pad?

>>10293657
https://download.8bitdo.com/Manual/Controller/M30/M30_Manual.pdf?20220513
>Xinput (hold B&Start)
>Dinput (hold X&Start)

>>10295331
I read a comment last night about someone who hated the diagonal tolerances of the M30 so they "upgraded" to an Xbox Elite pad. All this just for Contra. Now I haven't actually tried an Elite in particular but lmao.

>>10293657
I use my retrobit saturn controller on linux all the time.
Using it with and without steam.

>>10284310
Use Linux, retard.

>>10284310
I bought an 8BitDo M30 to emulate Genesis and Saturn... it should arrive in a few days... was it a good move?

>>10284310
Get an 8bitdo controller, retard.

>>10296539
i got mine yesterday
honestly think its the greatest retro controller out there
and i just spent over $200 on other peripherals before it
hope yours arrives with no issues

>>10284310
Still using my wired Xbox 360 controller, and I've been tempted to get an elite, but then I remember how the controller I have is still great.
Wired>wireless.

>>10296830
that's no longer always true, please stop repeating this

>>10297095
buy a banner

>>10284310
works on my machine

>>10297095
every single wireless controller i've ever used has been absolute shit on PC. Whether it's 2.4G or Bluetooth. They just drop randomly.

>>10297095
Name one controller that's better than a wired Xbox 360 controller. I'll wait.

>>10297176
dualshock, saturn, 6 button genesis

>>10297213
All require additional parts and likely software to use with computers.
Also asymmetrical joystick placement are better than symmetrical joystick placement. Genesis 6 button isn't better than a 360. I don't remember the Saturn very well, but I don't remember it being better.

>>10297346
>Genesis 6bc not better than x360 controller
Lol thought you were serious until I read that

>>10284310
I seriously considered the x360 pad and clones due to the same shillings. Even the price of a wired one compared to say the logitech 310 was hard to justify, given its around double the cost and the 310 feels less tight but just fine, with better layout imo. Or make your own adapter.

So you know this isn't another shill, the best option is probably to make your own. I made an adapter 22 years ago using the NTPad driver (github) it worked great for years before gifting to a fellow/vr fan

In case it's not absolutely crystal, you will need to source an original controller, a male db25 and have a device with parallel port to do this. And know how to solder. And not be a pure moron. Sorry just covering all bases

>>10293223
>Will be interesting to see how long it lasts.
Welp, it lasted 2 days lmao. Dpad was fucked. Sorry I didn't listen >>10290743

>>10295331
I have a normal xbone controller and I really like the d-pad. 360 one was very bad but xbone fixed it for me, I like it more than PS2/PS3/PS4's d-pad

>>10296539
One of the greatest controllers of all time.

>>10297516
I am serious, neither Genesis controller is better. You have major nostalgia. SNES>Genesis controller.
X360>SNES.
Simple as. The SNES D-pad is about the only thing it did better.
Sonicfags are hopeless.

>>10284310
I have one and I havent conencted any account or installed any firmware or anything, literally just worked right out of the box

>>10298816
Every 'fact' and underpinning premise of this post is incorrect. How does anon manage?

>>10284310
Wait….hold up here.
It is the best.

>>10284310
You should have listened to us and bought an 8BitDo

>>10298816
>You have major nostalgia. SNES>Genesis controller.
>X360>SNES.
This opinion can only be held by a zoomer/millennioomer who doesn't play many 2D games at all. For any intensive play, especially fighting games if you're a pad guy and not stick guy, d-pads that are rigid like SNES or just soft floppy shits like 360 are not good. The Sega pads are good specifically for one reason, the d-pads are among the best for 2D games. They're concave, unlike the brick cross that is the SNES, and unlike the 360, they don't feel like an analog stick posing as a d-pad.

>>10300886
Alright, you better not be lying this time! I got the 8bitdo Ultimate (wired, going cheap this time), should be arriving within an hour or two.

I did ultimately get the Xbox Elite 2 working in retroarch/snes9x, but I can't get the back buttons to work at all (which was one of my main reasons for splurging on it) and it still technically has that weird ass problem of randomly firing buttons 13-16 every time any other button is pressed OR released. I installed x360ce and it shows the same behavior.

>>10301959
Faulty pad?

>>10302107
I have no idea what its deal is. I suspect it's something with the drivers or it's trying to communicate special data that hasn't been accounted for. It's not just the buttons. Any input whatsoever: touching an analog stick, a trigger, etc, causes random firings of virtual buttons 13-16. The biggest problem is the only way to really configure the controller in a Windows environment is to use the official "Xbox Accessories App"... and when I installed it, it says the firmware for this brand-new just out of the box controller is "not yet supported, check back soon!", what the literal fuck. This piece of shit says "Windows" on the box, and yet I can't properly connect or configure it in Windows.

>>10302115
Have you already played with the test panel of the joy.cpl app? (search under Windows button) if not maybe you can narrow down the possible causes there

>8bitdo back buttons can't be bound to keyboard keys or anything else but other buttons on the controller
goddamnit piece of shit tongue the shit out of my ass
why are these all such fucking pieces of GARBAGE?

>>10302234
Yes that's how I discovered the problem. x360ce basically provides a more sophisticated version of that.

>>10284331
This controller is trash. Poll rate is abysmal, Input lag up the ass.

>>10301959
He's memeing you, 8bitdo is notorious for bad SNES D-pads

>>10297176
Xbone controller because it's basically 360 controller but with a d-pad that doesn't suck ass. It's so comfortable you forget you're using a d-pad sometimes

WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT OF BACK BUTTONS IF THEY CAN'T BE USED FOR ANYTHING
WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT OF BACK BUTTONS IF THEY CAN'T BE USED FOR ANYTHING
WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT OF BACK BUTTONS IF THEY CAN'T BE USED FOR ANYTHING
FUCKING GODDAMN PIECES OF SHIT

>>10301959
Good choice, personally prefer their pro2 because of the swapped dpad position but you'll be fine.

Ok, the 8bitdo Ultimate is usable. Decent dpad that is fairly SNES-like, squishy, no specific problems. However I'm kind of surprised how much I like the Xbox Elite 2 dpad. It's clicky type, which I thought I would hate, and not only do I not hate it, it MIGHT be the best dpad I've ever used. I'm playing SOTN and all the spell combos are way easier to hit on it. It just feels so precise. But since I can't use the back buttons AT ALL, it goes back to Amazon. Frustrating.

It's annoying that the back buttons on the 8bitdo can only be rebound to existing buttons, but at least I can just use them for L3/R3, which my 3rd party voice comms can read for push to talk, so... better than nothing. Also the damn thing's only $27, compared to the Elite's $140. So I guess I'm keeping it.

>>10296681
>hope yours arrives with no issues
Thanks! It seems I've made a good purchase, should arrive soon enough, I'm really excited for it.

>>10298643
I see, that's nice to hear, it was money well spent then.

Can someone give me a qrd on a good controller?
I am looking at:
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-940-000110-Gamepad-F310/dp/B003VAHYQY/ref=sr_1_3?crid=YCOEY98S4IJU&keywords=gamepad+for+pc&qid=1696602435&sprefix=gampad%2Caps%2C122&sr=8-3
and
https://www.amazon.com/PowerA-Wired-Controller-Xbox-gamepad-x/dp/B08F4444HM/ref=sr_1_4?crid=YCOEY98S4IJU&keywords=gamepad+for+pc&qid=1696602435&sprefix=gampad%2Caps%2C122&sr=8-4
and to play picrel

Will either of these get the job done?

>>10303254
hell, I just wanna play this without a keyboard.
Any ideas before this thread is autosaged?

Why use controllers if you can use an arcade stick for everything 2D? Do you enjoy destroying your thumbs with friction?

https://youtu.be/kY9m0k7H9wA?si=IxjX7CQuSnvEcGHX