/vr/ - Retro Games

I'm playing RC de Go! Pretty fun ps1 rc car racer, nice upgrade system. Gotta grind the first tracks a couple of time to get going but enjoying it so far.

>>10281236
My favorite PS1 racing game that's not Gran Turismo.
>arcade mode plays like a Daytona game
>simulation mode is harder than Gran Turismo

I think I just might start GT1 again, license tests are comfy and nostalgic.

who was the deranged sick fuck that thought that having just one (1) shift key was a good idea?

>>10282587
btw, this game looks pretty good and handles very well

>>10281236
Don't post Daytona 2, I'm still butthurt.

>>10282614
You're amongst bros, anon. Tell us why you feel this way towards it.

>>10282668
Because of how Sega is porting it to modern hardware.

>>10282749
Yeah it's pretty gay that the only home port will be inside of a game and not as a standalone. Imagine a proper port, like Daytona on Dreamcast, with tracks from older titles and new ones... At least Supermodel is just about arcade perfect.

Is it normal to get basically no FFB from Outrun 2006 FXT? I only get effects from hitting walls.

based vrooom general

>>10281236
behold, the hardest arcade racer.
I heard it filters alot of faggots

Any games with career modes or something to manage? TOCA is the only one that comes to mind, Sega GT 2002 but that runs like shit on my PC and I don't want to buy an Xbox. I beat GT3 and 4 when they came out, and I think NASCAR Thunder 2003.

>>10283229
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmUjsAEbWrk

>>10283215
Why the fuck does shifting gears make the loudest possible sound on this game? Is it an issue with the Model 2 emulator?

>>10283269
>has a problem with shifting gears being loud
that boy ain't right
(yes its only in the arcade version)

>>10283215
It's shit.

Still the best and better than the western releases

>>10282797
the handling in dreamcast daytona feels kinda busted to me

>>10284038
NTSC/PAL versions of the game included a setting to turn down the sensitivity of the steering. If you turn it all the way down, it feels really good to play. I'd even argue that the DC version is the best overall home port, besting the 360/PS3 1-to-1 arcade ports.

Any recommendations for arcade racers with lots of hidden paths/shortcuts?

>>10284076
Beetle Adventure Racing

>>10283949
1 has the better OST but I always liked 2 better.

>>10282603
l o o k i n ' g o o d

>>10282603
you might wanna take your CRT to the repair store, picture looks funny

>>10284131
2 is a better sim but 1 has that perfect arcadey gameplay. And new GT2 tracks are ugly af for some reason.

>>10284480
2 generally gives me the impression that they cut corners on textures and trackside visuals due to hardware limitations and lack of resources. And while a sim should be focusing on the driving experience over track visuals, it's also hard to remember most of the GT2 tracks. It doesn't help that many of them never returned after 2, whereas High Speed Ring and Grand Valley are still around even when there's a bunch of real circuits like Suzuka and Nurburgring.

>>10284523
Trial Mountain and Deep Forest too. Great tracks.

>>10283949
I like the jazzy jap music but I also think that western soundtrack fits better with the ambiance in GT1's case

>>10284569
For me it's the opposite but it probably depends on which version you grew up with.

>>10284569
IMO GT1's Western OST is much better than 2's.

>>10283945
>needs to listen to jewrnalists to shape his opinion on a game
do you need help changing your diapers too?

>>10284608
Everyone agrees that STCC is shit except for the autistic STCC spammer

>>10284617
sorry you got filtered hard,
go play mario kart or something

Imagine getting ShiTCC in late 1997 / early 1998 instead of ordering that sweet GT1 import on ncsx. My condolences.

>>10284663
Nobody even had a Saturn by that time. That fella shills a shit game on a dead console.

>>10284671
I had saturn for fighting game imports.

>>10284663
>>10284671
post time or btfo

>>10284663
I didn't import myself (was only 10) but knew a kid who had those imports because his dad was a gamer. We played GT1 a lot a couple months before the western release. Didn't have a chance to play STCC until recently. Yep, it's shit. Can't believe they were released a month apart.

>>10284695
>Yep, it's shit
git gud lmao

>>10284678
I don't waste my time on shit games for free.

>>10284713
sorry but if you can't adapt yourself to a new racing game you're not a racing bro you're just a small brain poser, post times or btfo

>>10284727
Nobody adapts themselves to play kusoge, stop spamming

>>10284038
Because it is. So is CCE. Saturn and HD Daytona were the only home versions that didn't feel broken.

>>10284887
i did, i like the soundtrack

>>10284887
>smol brain can't adapt to different racing games
sad, now go back poser

>>10284914
og daytona on saturn plays fine

>>10284987
>posing
>calls others posers
sad

>>10284987
Nice collection, bro. Now go play some of these games instead of ShiTCC for a change and stop spamming it.

>>10285019
I've completed all of those now where's your times faggot, oh right you don't because you're retarded

>>10285035
>smol brain can't handle stcc
you guys really suck at racing games

>>10285036
>I've completed all of those
And yet you continue to insist that STCC is not shit. Are you baiting or what?

>STCC schizo plaguing yet another racing game thread
When is this deranged mongrel going to get rangebanned

>>10285042
its good but you guys are retarded, what can i say, I really don't know what's wrong with it I've played alot of racing games and stcc isn't bad

>>10285048
>hating someone for liking a game
i rent free in your head now

>>10285061
It has twitchy unrealistic controls that ruin the car handling, graphics that fall apart and 20 fps framerate. Idk which other games have you played, there are not many from major publishers that are as bad as STCC. Maybe some low budget shit that plays worse.

>>10285002
i played it with analog and it feels just as touchy as the dreamcast version. with the d pad its ok.

>>10285079
>It has twitchy unrealistic controls
stopped reading from here, you just need to git gud lmao, ive played bad racing games and stcc isn't one of them.
see this is what i mean by failing to adapt to new racing games, stcc is an arcade/sim racer and it plays fine once you learn how to drive the car (but since you're brain is so small I understand the only game you can relate to is mario kart because its flat)
its not an easy game.
thats how it is

>>10285097
>i played it with analog
it wasn't meant to be played with the analog controller

>>10285098
>it plays fine once you learn how to drive the car
It never plays fine even if you force yourself to complete it. The game stays laggy and barely playable shit in its entirety. You just memed yourself into thinking that it's good because nobody else wants to waste their time on the game and it kinda makes you feel special in a big-fish-little-pond way and your "post times" spamming only confirms this. You don't post your Sega Rally times, you don't post your Gran Prix 4 times and you don't post your Gran Turismo times because people here play these games and you are just not as good at these games as others. Now git gut at good games or btfo.

For real. The dude has some nice racing games (assuming that's his pic which I am not sure at this point) but he still tries to bait the board into hate playing stcc.

>>10282603
does this emulate well?

>>10285141
All it's doing is making sure everyone hates the game by association. Imagine being such a princess that you kvetch at people who don't like it instead of actually trying to convince them that the game is worth trying. Gotta be daddy issues of some sort.

>>10285141
As I said, it's so he can brag about his times since nobody else wants to play this crap.

>>10285145
It is, just use Mupen64 plus

>>10285105
yeah i kinda figured that out

Anyone else agrees that NegCon was a godsend to the ps1 racing library? Not only it's great by itself on the real hardware, it also allows to remap the controls to modern style controls on the xbox controller when emulating.

>>10285134
tldr, git gud small brain

>>10285141
>assuming that's his pic which I am not sure at this point
it is, and im not even mentioning the arcade racers I've played on real arcades, so i think i know what I'm talking about
>>10285146
idc what 3 retards on this board think, you git gud or you gtfo its that simple with stcc, but getting mad just because some one dare to like it its just pathetic, and y'all should kys or play something else rather than mode7 racers

git gud

>>10285164
>Not only it's great by itself
no, get a steering wheel that controller sucks

>>10285182
No one cared about this piece of vomit game then and nobody ever will.
Seethe until you die, retard.

>>10285186
Good console steering wheels didn't exist until PS2. No PS1 game is optimized for a wheel and using one without ffb feels weird.

>>10285191
>small brain filtered hard
whats wrong anon kun, is stcc too complex for your brain? maybe its too fast? you know you need to control your speed and handling right?

>>10285198
better than that controller
also mad catz steering wheel

>>10283949
I started playing it recently. Can anyone eli5 on camber settings?

>>10285203
>mad catz steering wheel
It's horrible. Negcon is much better than that pos.

>>10285209
its a dumb controller but ok

stcc schizo ban when?

>>10285213
rent free

>>10285070
I guarantee nobody thinks about you when you're gone. You're the only one who ever posts about this garbage game.

>>10285212
It's better than DualShock for steering and Mad Catz wheel feels like a cheap flimsy toy after using actual wheels like G29, even though that one is cheap as well. PS1 games don't have ffb anyway.

>>10285226
thats not what i saw last time lmao.
you guys are pathetic but to be fair I did say the game filtered alot of faggots.
also why you still replying, is it the rent free? you can't let go?
lets talk about another great arcade racer then

>>10285237
About time you quit ShiTCC spamming and talk about some actually good games

>>10285234
theres also this steering wheel i used to have, its really great its called the act labs steering wheel

>>10285252
you will be filtered by stcc until you die

I have a F355 triple screen machine in a mall nearby. Gonna have a couple of plays and take some photos if it's still operational.

Is GT considered arcade?

>>10285281
The series is fairly light on simulation but GT2 and later ones lack arcade gameplay elements like emphasis on drifting. GT3-4 also feel slow for arcade genre. I'd say GT1 is the arcade one, others are sim-lites.

>>10285191
>piece
>of vomit
vomit is consistent enough to be a single "piece"

>>10285330
>vomit is consistent enough to be a single "piece"
a single piece called stcc lmao

I'm getting my ass kicked by the angelus duel in Ridge Racer PSP, how the hell did I do this when I was younger

>>10281532
>NFSIII sim mode on PS1
Based. It has much less car settings than Gran Turismo 1-2 but the handling is more interesting imo. I don't drive a sports car irl and can't say which one is more realistic but I play a fair bit of PC2 and AC and NFSIII car handling in sim mode feels very similar to those. In GT1-2 the cars oversteer and lose grip easily at the slightest turn but the slides are easy to control and correct. In NFSIII the cars are more understeering and grippy by default but if you lose grip then you're screwed so you have to be careful and easier on the brakes and learn to deal with unwanted sliding correctly. The drifts are possbile but require specific settings and are very hard to pull off.
I hate how none of this is present in the PC version though. It's too arcadey instead.

>>10285338
git gud nigger

>>10284076
Buggy

>>10285198
PSX has no hardware support for steering wheels, they're fancy negcons. Or even worse, fancy analogs

>>10284076
There's a series that has multiple paths as its core design but it's not retro.

>>10285234
the negcon even has pressure sensitive buttons for gas/brakes. if you're going to emulate PS1 racers, i think it's essential.

>>10284076
-> >>10282587
rush series

>>10284076
this, best boat racing game ever made

Start putting the word "racing" in these OPs so you can find them more easily on the catalogue.

>>10285427
I still can't beat this asshole, fuck

>>10285427
>>10287601
I guess I just needed to complain because I immediatly beat him, but fuck me was that harder than it deserved to be, every other race in the game has been laughably easy.

I have been playing ChoroQ, Its fun to slowly upgrade your parts and get faster as time goes by. Soon enough I'll be able to race in the Grand Prix!

>/vroom/ is revived
>thread quality already on the nosedive because of the STCC posting

Also, thoughts on NR2003 and the state of NR2003 modding?

>>10287662
People still play it. I tried to acquire it on the high seas but couldn't get it to play properly. I'd like to ay some RBR, I know people are still modding that game.

>>10287662
its alright i guess. its a nice game to shut your brain off once you get a good rhythm going around the track. very therapeutic

>>10287662
Good left turning mechanics

>>10287663
Do it, RBR is great

say did anyone managed to make a fanatec steering wheel work with gt2 on duckstation with the ngcon trick.

on my end the thing seem to work except the steering axis snap on the center while the position of the wheel is turned to about 10-20 degrees on ether side, this make the controls very jerky.

Anyone had this issue ?

>>10289372
Did you calibrate range and deadzone in the game settings?

>>10289379
yea, but even with the calibration done in the menu the axis still snaps on the center

>>10289372
I think that's just how the game reads negcon controllers. Increase the deadzone to like 15, maybe?

GT2's negcon settings have a terrible UI.

>>10289486
ok thanks ill try that

>>10289486
>>10289487
I think this is actually called "margin" in-game.

>>10289372
You know what? I'm an idiot. Are you using DuckStation? For some reason the deadzone in the actual emulator settings don't apply unless you explicitly set them.

anybody feel weird for loving racing games but not being that into cars/racing irl? Idk why but I've always felt this weird disconnect

>>10289564
I had a track day impreza wrx before covid. Absolutely loved driving around the track with other chill dudes and improve my times but I had to sell it for personal reasons. I ABSOLUTELY hated driving on public roads. Only did so to get to the track. I prefer to commute on foot or ride a bicycle.
Tl;dr cars are cool but only as a hobby.

>>10283945
you are right, it's a sloppy game

Do you anons play your racers on manual or automatic?

>>10289742
Mostly automatic. I did a riding course a few years ago, and can use manual in motorcycle games, but for whatever reason those skills never translated to car games.

>>10289742
Manual is more engaging. Auto makes me zone out.

>>10289767
>zone out
I do have that problem a lot when playing racers

>>10289617
I share a similiar sentiment but I love driving on the local town roads. The moment you get near a city it's just hell.
>>10289372
GT2 steering works in "steps", so it's always going to snap from 0 to minimum steering sadly. Negcon reduces it a bit.

>>10281532
>>10282603

>>10289815
ok then thanks for the info, weird since i saw videos where a wheel was used and this centering was not present

>>10289742
Manual. Having to mind your car as well as the race is fun

Is it just my PC or does F-Zero GX still run like shit on Dolphin for whatever reason? I can run 99% of other games at 1080p with no fps drops or stutters whatsoever.

>>10289742
Automatic if I don't respect the physics or its a chase cam game

>>10289742
Manual on games with a cockpit view, and like >>10290330 auto for everything else.

Best way to play Outrun 2006 these days?

How often do you use chase cam? How often do you use cockpit? How often do you use front bumper?

Any vroomers that are focused around dueling 1v1?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js46ddZoAoQ

>>10290658
I used chase cam all the time. I like to look at the car I'm driving and how stylish it looks. Hood cam is also great if you can actually see the car's hood on the bottom. Cockpit cam is fine but it severely limits you field of view which does not provide all the information you'd really have.
Fuck bumper cam. I'm not playing as a flying camera.

>>10290673
bumper cam is fun and can feel like a rush when going fast

>>10290676
Eh, if I can't see the rumble of the engine, the deformation when it suffers damage and the sleek racing livery on my vehicle, then it's not for me.

>>10290354
i play it on my og xbox or visit my local leagues club (which has an outrun 2 sp cab for some reason)

>>10287662
>the state of NR2003 modding?
absolute

Why don't all arcade racing games have rolling starts by default? And I don't say this because of Daytona. Starting from a stationary position is so tiring.

>>10293049
Because nobody likes them and you're a contrarian

>>10290658
bumper cam is the only way to play ridgeracer

>>10293873
So everyone's a fag but me.

>>10294025
chase cam makes 1 and R unplayable imo

>>10290673
>I like to look at the car I'm driving and how stylish it looks. Hood cam is also great if you can actually see the car's hood on the bottom.
these. unless im feeling extra autistic that day and then i'll play in cockpit cam.

>>5287529
>>5287531
hopefully crosspost works or I'm retarded

>>10294729
>>>/[board]/[number]

These threads used to be so popular, what happened?

>>10297061
stcc fag ruined them

Please post racing game hard rock/heavy metal.
No Tokyo Highway Battle please.

>>10287662
Dumb question but are there any nascar games that actually last a whole nascar race? Like the penn and teller bus simulator, but an entire nascar race? Im feeling a flight simulator style adventure game in a fixed position.

>>10297162
100% distance is always an option in NASCAR (and other simracing) games.

>>10297197
The very first Nascar Racing game is kino

>>10289767
>Manual is more engaging.
100% correct. This is where I draw the line on what a racing game is.
>>10289771
>posts a non racer

>>10297274
>jet powered hovercraft
>anon insists that it needs a manual transmission

>>10297274
autism

>>10297274
You are a retard. Go back to /v/

>>10297061
This >>10297092

>>10289767
i zone out even with manual

Impossible to play manual on Genesis games because of that fucking controller
Too easy to upshift and downshift at the wrong time pressing diagonals by accident

>>10298869
Ape fingers problem

>>10285281
When GT1 launched it was the most sim-oriented driving game on consoles. GT2 was even better. The only things comparable were Dreamcast games like LM24 and F355 Challenge.
They're still far closer to sim than they are to Mario Kart, though the title of 'most accurate sim on consoles' has kinda slipped away from them because genuine hardcore dedicated sims like Assetto Corsa are also on console now.

>>10284076
Motorstorm. Entire franchise is based around different classes of vehicles having to go through different routes around a lap. From dirt bikes to monster trucks. They're PS3 though so not 'retro'

>>10293049
Rolling starts are American (they're traditionally called Indy starts for a reason) whilst standing starts are European (traditionally called Le Mans/Grand Prix starts)
That's why

>>10290686
looks good

>>10297121
Try Zuntata's output from the Battle Gear series.

HAIRPIN RIGHT

>>10302709
this game is actually hilarious

What's your favorite car manufacturer game besides Porsche Unleashed?
I enjoyed Ford Racing 2 and 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-K2e-8P5Ro

Bump

>>10303345
Outrun.
The Alfa Romeo one has an interesting car selection but I can't remember it driving nicely.

>>10303345
porsche challenge, but I think it was just one car in the whole game.

>>10301963
This and the sequel IRC are my favorite rally games. The sequel after that, Rally Championship 2000 also has the most realistic rally stages in a rally game ever (officialy).

>>10303345
>missed out on Ford Street Racing

>>10303345
nothing will ever beat f355 challenge, not even modern racing sims

did anyone know where to find mm2hook or the thing that remplaced it ? the github of the author redirect to a site where the file is unavaliable

>>10305292
looks great

>>10297092
>>10298545
It isn't that "cee" retard, is it? He ruined these threads on a regular basis years ago.