/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
AD MORTEM FINAL CUT
See >>10235841

WAD BOORU (open for submissions)
http://clovr.xyz/wadsup/

FORE/VR/ ALONE (beta 3)
https://files.catbox.moe/u9smv4.zip

=== WHEN IT'S DONE ===
A SERIOUS CASE OF /vr/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9611263/#9611406

VIOLENT RUMBLE 2
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/9941667/#9941720

=== NEWS ===

[9-21] Naku-Naru 2 released
https://joblez.itch.io/naku-naru-2-yoru-no-sei

[9-20] GZChaos 1.0 released
https://kevansevans.itch.io/gzchaos

[9-18] Doom Mac sourcecode
https://archive.org/details/doom-mac-source

[9-15] Doom Retro 5.0 released
https://github.com/bradharding/doomretro/releases/tag/v5.0

[9-15] E3 of Rise of the Triangles has released:
https://files.catbox.moe/a9f5pf.zip

[9-15]/vr/ has made a Doom wad
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10225829/#10246503
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10225829/#10246521

[9-14] Woof! 12.0 released
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/releases/tag/woof_12.0.0

[9-14] Quake 2 Generations sourcecode posted courtesy of user Matsilagi:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l8vPbXu0QOG5QOE3XNIl2pw28SyTzNmn/view

[9-13] Casual and experimental wads by Thelokk
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/0-9/12ep
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/boa2kd

[9-12] Interview with Paril from Nightdive about Quake 2 Remastered
[YouTube] Developer Interview - QUAKE II REMASTERED - Paril: KEX Engine Programmer with Nightdive Studios

[9-11] Quake 2 Map Jam announced
>>10235101

[9-10] Defensive Measures recompiled for Q2R
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/defensive-measures1

[9-05] Quakespasm 0.96.0 Released
https://sourceforge.net/p/quakespasm/news/2023/09/quakespasm-0960/

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more like dumb

When's waifu wad and what's ad mortem?

I wrote a little Doom File Explorer bash script as a little day project! Kind of basic, but I am happy with how it turned out.

Ion Fury : Aftershock maybe releasing in 2024 (please?), here's to hoping.
I'm willing to wait as opposed to them rushing it out half finished, I am confident it will be good.

>Immersive Gameplay

>>10273107
>Called barons of hell
>Don't have personal underlings with each encounter of them
Cmon sandy/carmack/romero

>>10273112
Barons are also entitled by the monarchy to wear a small crown as part of their display of nobility

>>10273123
God that's silly. There's so many ways Doom could have gone wrong, this is one of them.

I've added another weapon to my mod, a silenced shotgun using sprites by Captain J
https://files.catbox.moe/x0d704.webm
It's a little weaker than the normal shotgun and holds fewer rounds in its "magazine", but it has a faster rate of fire and since it's suppressed it doesn't alert enemies

>>10273131
Call it. Friendo.

>>10273134
A-alright.

Heads, then.

>>10271652
>Interesting, not one of those click bait videos mentioned it was old.
Who needs those details? Catchy headline and surface level coverage is the current way.
>Though, I do think that the game if it were something to do with the antichrist it would be a prequel
I guess it does make certain sense, but current DOOM lore sure as hell doesn't. So I don't think they would let that be an obstable for a sequel's narrative.
>>10273038
While it does suck that Voidpoint/KillPixel/Slipgate have made mistakes of overestimating themselves and letting their own excitement to announce the date they ended up not being able to reach, at the end of a day it's best to let projects take time instead of advocating for them to follow the current trend of "reach the deadline at the expense on the game".
3D Realms' legacy (a.k.a., Duke Nukem Forever) put them in awkward position and maybe upcoming Realms Deep would help them finally get out of it.

played through Mars 3D, it sure was something, with plenty of copy & paste designs

>>10273302
eventually I got frustrated with the severe lack of ammo and the game being filled with bulletsponges, and IDKFA'd to get this over with

>>10273038
Them showing more of it on livestreams seems like a good indication of it coming out relatively soon. They were hinting that a date would be announced during Realms Deep as well.

Realms Deep Deep Deep
Deep Deep Deep

>>10273026
hey I basically did the same for windows' Command Prompt and use it to this day to organize/navigate my collection

I'm starting to feel that Nugget has too many options and I'm tempted to go back to the semplicity Woof.. how I wish it had 800p support..

The Quake community seems to have a much better taste in custom music than the Doom community, who often pick songs which sound nice, but are too "happy" for Doom and kill the mood somewhat. I like the fact that Quake modders tend to stick with dark ambient music.

>>10273396
Turns out...
...
...
...Lil' zombie fella'.

Remember when Dark Places was the future of Quake? Now people hate texture filters even though GLQuake already had them.
What happened in the last 15 years that made hardcore fans slowly change their minds about graphic improvements and demand more fidelity? Not only FPS games but emulators and other stuff. Even when it's not really faithful like in Quake 2 and Half Life?

>>10273424
>who often pick songs which sound nice, but are too "happy" for Doom and kill the mood somewhat.
You mean like the IWADs did?

>>10273468
>You mean like the IWADs did?
I love the Dave D. Taylor Blues so God damn much.

>>10273478
That's a close second behind Message for the Arch-Vile for me.

>>10273481
I got your message for the Arch-Vile right here!
*unzips Rocket Launcher*

Are there any mods for Doom that focus on tacticool mil-sim weapons? I think it would be fun to kill demons as an operator.

>>10273541
Hideous Destructor

>>10273541
>I think it would be fun to kill demons as an operator.
you're goddamn right it is

>>10273541
>tacticool mil-sim

What a neat little game. Excellent level design. Super enjoyable.

>>10273459
quake but lookin' good

>>10273459
This looks like a Quake mod for Painkiller. And my guess is those effects were cool back then because it made Quake look like some of those more modern games, but now it just looks wrong.

>>10273583
It always baffles me how this tactical realistic simulator mod always looks 10 times more spastic than original Doom.

>>10273107
literally me (samsung TV in pc mode+game mode)

>>10273624
that's your misconception that tactical=slow or that HD is trying to be realistic rather than plausible
a lot of players think that way and it's why they struggle with doing more than knee deep in the dead room brooming

>>10273541
That's Hideous Destructor you're looking for, it's probably the most realistic tactical shooter which Doom has ever been, it has a lot of attention to detail, and a lot of (partially optional) micromanaging.

The magic of this is that you've got these more realistic mechanics for shooting, managing inventory and ammo, and handling wounds, but it's still Doom themed, and you're still playing in Doom levels, and that makes it very unique. The environments are as realistic as the author of the levels made it.
Hideous Destructor is pretty tough, and it's one of those acquired tastes, some just won't like it, but for some it's the best. Part of its charm is that the demons are all made 50x as mean and obnoxious, with all kinds of tricks and abilities, but this is offset by all the kinds of stuff the player can also do.

Even if wounding mechanics are pretty realistic, with how you need to stop bleeding, how you need to put yourself out if you catch fire, and how really serious injuries can't really just be fixed up with a medkit, there's a lot more to it. Certain magical items can heal even the most brutal of injuries, and some can protect you from some damage, and then you have Berserk, where if you know what to do, you can do some absolutely wild bullshit, tanking damage and punching like a night train.

You also have all kinds of handy gadgets and tricks, like hand grenades, tripwire setups for said grenades, breaching charges, sentry guns, rope ladders, and even a jetpack, if you can find it.

>>10273649
I'll be honest, even BD gameplay videos look more appealing than this. But I play almost exclusively vanilla so you can ignore my opinion.

>>10273624
Depends on how spastic you make it, you can get away with a lot of less than realistic stuff if you're comfortable and familiar with the gameplay. Part of HDest's visual quirks is also adapting to GzDoom and working within it.

>>10273663
It's understandable. HDest unfortunately has a very minimalist approach to graphics and sound by default, which isn't always the best looking at a glance.

MtPain27 Reviews A2Rob's "Machete" on Dean of Doom: https://youtu.be/C8lONESdl1o?si=ZDJ8zsnf02XUCwBJ

>>10273424
>who often pick songs which sound nice, but are too "happy" for Doom and kill the mood somewhat.
My favorite custom wad soundtrack exists in Preacher so there’s still variety, and mods like Mjolnir have some more upbeat tracks and tunes that fit real well. The original Doom 1 and 2 soundtracks themselves had a lot of variety and often went all over the place.
For better and worse, Quake replacement tracks can’t just be simple midis. Sometimes the mod in question doesn’t barely tries like Arcane Dimensions, and to make matters worse half the levels in the mod liked to use the “Focus” track.

>>10273680
>MAP06: Hydraulic Mating Press

>>10273541
>now we cookin

Some guy is working on porting Acknex engine games to Unity and he released the first beta today
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nq8pV9RVfW__RPe8LF1MUl_6cyjYnOnq/view?usp=sharing

>>10273026
Share it anon, please.
>>10273597
I stopped playing it in the 2nd episode, in the 3rd map in fact. The amount of mirrored halls and hallways (like The Cathedral in E1) and just the absurd lack of enemy variety and just tons of the same one in the same room made me drop it.
>>10273763
How? wad please.
>>10273810
How do I get good at that brasilian FPS? I like teaming up with the green aliens but it's one of those "I used to play this as a kid" and now I barely even make it to the 3rd map.

Quake:
>nice tidy organised folders for mods with their own config files
Doom:
>fuck it just dump everything in root and load what you want

>>10273597
>>10273835
I think the level design holds it back actually. There is plenty of utility in the enemy variety, but they're just underutilized. Also there's not enough textures.

>>10273810
Is that the "Vagina incident" game?

>>10273861
Varginha, yes. AKA Alien Anarchy. Or at least looks like it.
>>10273859
I didn't mean to say there's not enough variety in enemies, just that whoever designed the maps didn't use it to their potential. I feel like Doom (specially Doom 2) did so much better.

>>10273810
>Acknex
So there are other games?

>>10273810
>ACK-NEX
kek

>>10273624
The weapon switch speed likely plays into that “spastic” feeling the most. There’s a lot of nuances to the weapon mechanics that steer toward “realistic” while having near instant swapspeeds.
Big things that make HD and similar mods work: More “realistic” and limited player movement, more “realistic” and fragile player health, and a huge boost in power to the player’s arsenal.

>>10273986
*enemy changes can help a lot as well

Hey, I recall a few sprites made for Ad Mortem last year, for Phase 2, does anyone have those? They were a colorful torch for the Light Amp Goggles, and a crystal ball for the Computer Map.

After doom is pretty dope.

>>10273847
>he doesn't organise his doom folders

>>10273459
The levels need to be fully rebuilt for PBR textures to look like they actually fit in. The polygon density in Quake 1 is far too low for them, and you need trim pieces around hard edges (like that archway) to avoid extrusions in the texture awkwardly disappearing into the void going around a corner.

Most Quake 1 PBR texture packs also just kinda look like ass.

>>10272901
GZDoom 4.11 has just came out, now supporting DSDHacked and plenty of other things, such as new ZScript features and refining light mode selection.

>>10272901
>>10274074
Forgor to add link: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1245363#p1245363

Will UMAPINFO ever support extra dehacked things?

>get tired of playing with a flashlight mod
>remember toying with an ambient light level slider years and years ago
>look for it
>apparently it was culled entirely from gz
what the fuck
is there like a mod or something that allows for it?
i don`t wanna just crank the brightness slider

>>10273810
>Acknex engine game
Seconding >>10273903: there's more?

>>10274126
DarkDoomZ.

>>10274135
Nevermind. I thought you wanted to reduce ambient light level, not increase it. My bad.

>>10274074
>DSDHacked
What's this now.

>>10274170
MBF21++
Basically just adds a bunch of empty states I think.

>>10274170
From what I understand, it's MBF21 with unlimited states, things, etc.

Wish there was easily searchable midi tunes and renditions collection of synth/punk/electro/wave 80s sound spectrum somewhere, but alas. Might be forced to go radical and learn transcribing, just to replicate the feelings of that pretty memorable 2048 map with Gary Numan track which sparked this notion to begin with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6gqcm3mMs4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31BjwrVl_xk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1tvER7HApI

>>10274058
They are oganised somewhat. I just wish I could put everything into a folder then drag that folder onto the binary.

>>10274012

>>10274058

>>10274135
cranking pregain/postgain in it kinda works, whatever those mean. thanks, anun.

>>10274217
We came up with lots of variants for this one. I'll post more + the source files later, gotta bounce for now.

>>10274217
At first I thought it was a smol Xen tentacle.

>>10274203
hopefully AI will be leveraged to do tasks like this soon

>>10274225
This one looks better as a decoration than a pickup.

>>10274240
Maybe, yeah. I mean, making midi with some monotonous beat should be pretty easy things considered, but first I'd have to put an effort unskewing my shabble sense of tone and rhythm with learning all the soundbank instruments. Immediate good results are out of the horizon, only long practice.

With Boom, can you create a fake 3D platform to make something like a shelf?

>>10274323
You can use midtextures, but AFAIK fake floors/ceilings are subject to the same rendering restrictions as real ones.

>>10274326
I figured that's what I'd have to do.

>>10272212
are there any (boomer) shooter that use weapons as upgrades?
As I recall, in Dusk you can duel wield pistols and shotguns, which just increases rate of fire and nothing else, effectively making it an upgrade. Internally, dual wielded pistols are probably a different weapon than single pistol even if it doesn't look that way. I think you can still switch to single handed if you want but it's not default. It's also kind of interesting because it functions as a non-linear upgrade, where any shotgun will upgrade any other shotgun etc. I kind of wish you could do something like that in dehacked.
>>10272912
>what's ad mortem?
This made me laugh. I'm kind of surprised it's still going. Ad mortem is the /vr/ halloween themed wad.
>>10274083
>>10274170
I think there's some confusion here.
UMAPINFO = Define level/episode progression and sky textures by map. Unrelated to compatibility(line/sector/actor logic). Supported by most boom derived ports.
MBF21 = Allow new enemy and player attacks/actions. Definitionally Complevel 21. Supported by most boom derived ports.
DSDHacked = Allow unlimited states/things/sounds. Regardless of compatibility. Supported by most boom derived ports (crispy also supports this, just nobody uses it).
There's also Dehextra which added like 1000 new things, effectively replaced by DSDHacked.
>>10274323
Not really, it's probably just best to use midtextures. There's some technique tentatively called "Projected flats" that can give the appearance of 3d floors in vanilla, but you can't go under them, or look through them, or at the wrong angle. Described here:
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/93919-vanilla-how-to-make-a-new-kind-of-3d-floor-projected-flats-i-dunno-what-to-call-it-lol/

>>10274332
Correction: crispy supports Dehextra, not DSDHacked, so it's not truyly unlimited things/states etc. like I said though, no one uses that.

>>10273138
>>>/gmad/

>>10274332
>you can duel wield pistols and shotguns, which just increases rate of fire and nothing else, effectively making it an upgrade.
That’s basically the pistol-to-chaingun upgrade, or the nailgun-to-sng, right?
I don’t know of any older or recent arcadey shooter mirroring Unreal’s pistol upgrade progression.

>>10273583
>>10273649
What's the deal with that floating blue laser? Very annoying.

>>10274353
>That’s basically the pistol-to-chaingun upgrade, or the nailgun-to-sng, right?
Yeah, I guess the only difference is it'll still the same key press. The more I think about it the more the initial question has me confused.

>>10274332
>in Dusk you can duel wield pistols and shotguns, which just increases rate of fire and nothing else
It also increases spread for the pistols, the shotguns have no penalty and are a upgrade in every way. And you can indeed switch back to a single one if you want to.
>>10274353
Well, dusk does have an assault rifle which would be that game's chaingun equivalent. The double pistol is just there cause it looks cool, really. If you get a fast firing totem they're great cause you'll likely have max ammo for them and the increased fire rate makes them useful even if they have low damage.

>>10273986
>The weapon switch speed likely plays into that “spastic” feeling the most.
it really doesn't even register to me anymore but that's probably true
vanilla doom is not a swap-heavy game, switching weapons is a major commitment so you only do it if you're faced with a really bad matchup or you ran out of ammo
in HD you might switch multiple times just taking out one enemy, because different weapons are good for different aspects of combat and switching to fists is viable for both finishing off weakened enemies and accessing more movement options

>>10274367
I also did my best to steer it towards thread-relevant shooters but then I just got that other reply…
Maybe he’s looking for a permanent upgrade?

recommend me some half life mods that aren't echoes, field intensity or urbicite

>>10274012
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/727328864489046110/1155985984043884654/Sprites_and_stuff.zip
Alright, here's the source files, plus a berserk concept. I'm assuming you're Vaeros? Either way, I hope this satifies your curiosity.
>>10274259
Which is part of the reason why it was scrapped.

>>10273218
Do you think they'll ever implement Co-op or multiplayer in Ion Fury? Imagine the mayhem having 4 Shellys blowing everything up.

>>10274360
Optional addon item that gives you a toggable laser sight and flashlight. It's really useful with some weapons that take a moment to get a sight picture on screen, and it's REALLY handy in co-op, because you can quickly identify where your squadmates are and where they're looking.

>>10273986
Depends on how people play it. Like that other guy said: Switching weapons can help a lot, or you could be like me and use the Thunder Buster to cook everything.

>>10274525
But it's not lined up with the gun at all, which is really disorienting. I realize it would be hard to do that, but it seems extremely janky and immersion-breaking as-is.

>>10274536
I feel underequipped without it anymore, so it doesn't bother me. Seeing as it's an additional addon you wouldn't even see it if you just booted up stock HD.

>>10274547
I haven't played in quite a while. Matt using the pro-tip feature to sperg about Ukraine while randomly revamping entire mechanic systems seemingly for the sake of change sort of killed it for me. Also the thing with GZDoom only letting mods work with the exact version of the port they were made for.

Is there still an addon making scene or did it die off? I remember Ace having some falling out and discontinuing the bullet libraries, and the git pages for addons sort of vanishing.

>>10274643
There is, yeah. There's a new website now and a github organization for communal maintaining of otherwise abandoned mods.
https://dastrukar.gitlab.io/hddons-list/
https://github.com/HDest-Community

>>10273672
>HDest unfortunately has a very minimalist approach to graphics and sound by default, which isn't always the best looking at a glance.
It always felt like the opposite kind of mod for someone who wants detailed weapon sprite animations.
>>10274382
>it really doesn't even register to me anymore but that's probably true
It may come off as "spastic" to others but yeup, like HD and similar mods it makes for smoother/more fun responses to all sorts of "sudden crazy shit" and improves the gunplay. There's also no automatic "backpack reloading" system here so all those guns and mags still need to be maintained.
>>10274547
I think it's fun to use. I've played lots of Deathstrider lately and kind of miss it.
Saying that, I think it would be a benefit if the weapon sprites were aligned with where the laser and bullets were actually coming from.

So this is how linux oldfags played Doom in 1994?
https://files.catbox.moe/vh70c2.mp4

Popped the bear in Shanghai Gold and bought a large pack of stylized textures, so I can start playing around with more polished graphics. With a bit more work to get the lighting and textures right, the game might one day look good. Again, many thanks for the valuable feedback some of you gave. I'm working on adressing all the issues and I'll be back in around a month or so when those have been resolved, and there is new content to show.

>>10274758
>sprite with gorillions of pixels
>super HD PBR textures in what otherwise looks like a Wolf 3D map
>rectangle torch
I...
Good luck, anon.

The Duke Nukem Zero Hour decompilation project is almost done.

https://twitter.com/DukeAtomicTimes/status/1706339214504157476

>>10274779
Torch will be replaced with an animated billboard. Textures are generally just diffuse + roughness. Will need testing to find the best setup.

>>10274781
I played through Zero Hour earlier this year. Are you telling me I could have waited and played with good controls and framerate?
Oh well, guess I'll appreciate it more

After some buzz a few threads ago I played it and it's pretty good. (lost civilization) Feels like a different game, forgive me and hear me out for this one, but it was like dark souls specifically in how you navigate shortcuts and find secret items by going to weird corners of the map, and there are ways to get the jump on groups of enemies, all without a jump button.
Went on a fair few quad damage rampages and used mouselook to snipe the snipers so I can't say much meaningful on the difficulty but there's more restraint in crowding the open areas than most mappers, anyone else would have made the caco clouds twice as big. Some weirdly difficult archviles with no easy cover though, like the market square in map 9. Only way for me to beat it was to run far uphill and cheese the archies around a house. Again most mappers probably wouldn't let you just run the fuck away
The superfluous weapon pickups probably pair amazingly with weapon randomizers / RPG mods made for continuous play. In my case the dead marines in high traffic areas really helped even the odds. Definitely replayable but not for saveless peestol starters

>>10274536
>But it's not lined up with the gun at all
What it is lined up with is where the gun will *actually* fire. The start of the beam is where the barrel of your gun "physically" is and the end of the beam is where the bullets will go. It's below the crosshair because that's how all doom projectiles do, something that's very hard to unnotice in the rest of your Doom career

>>10274447
Thanks.

>>10274447
The BERSERK file is a blank file, not sure if it's supposed to be a .bmp or .psd or something. I'm giving Vaeros a hand with a few things.

>>10275091
It's a lmp, the doom image format

Currently running through DOOM 2 again and I got to say after map 10 it really goes down hill. Doom 1 played better. I like the aesthetic of the bigger open maps in Doom 2 but the play is a grind. Thy flesh consumed was hard but fun. Most of Doom 2 is just annoying

>>10275187

>>10275187
more like dumb too

>>10275187
I dunno, the only ones I can say I rather dislike are Monster Condo and The Citadel... Was never crazy about The Living End, but I can't quite hate it either.
Everything else has at least a redeeming factor as well and none really feel like a chore.

>dumb
more like doom lmao

I want to try out Unreal Evolution but it's been so long since I played Unreal that I feel like I wouldn't appreciate the changes. What to do...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTWvTHq6djM

>>10275313
>>10275361
>>10275367

Barrels O' Fun
The Chasm
Icon of Sin

SUCK

>>10275582
I like the Icon fight.

>>10275582
Icon of Sin is more of a puzzle than anything, but it's an big fancy puzzle. You're jaded by years of doom wads, but there was a fun tension to seeing the room fill up with more and more monsters the longer you took to complete the fight. The fact that there wasn't any trekking back through a long level on dead was a bonus.
Barrels O' Fun was a fun gimmick level. It's not that long, so I dunno why anyone bitches about it.
Chasm is fine.

>>10273583
>TACTICAL weapon bob

are there mods for doom that add skins on the guns? ive been ruined by csgo and i find black guns incredibly boring.

>>10275678
Time to crack open paint anon.

>>10275681
you want to tell me no one ever thought of that before? i've seen a mod that made the default guns gold

>>10274781
>>10275053
Spooky, I just finished it over the weekend after finding ProjectN64's mouse look turned it into a very neat little third person shooter. I was planning on making a thread dedicated to Duke games' easter eggs but figured everyone had already seen them and YouTube is a thing.

>>10274332
>I think you can still switch to single handed if you want but it's not default.
You can do that with Penetrators in Ion Fury.
>>10274449
>Do you think they'll ever implement Co-op or multiplayer in Ion Fury?
Co-op? No. If I recall correctly, it would be at best too time consuming and tedious to make co-op possible for its campaign.
Multiplayer as some kind of deathmatch? Perhaps, but would also be hard to get working and you could argue that ultimately all that effort won't pay off as such mode would stay alive for like a week or two maximum.

>>10274398
They Hunger is a great horror-themed mod which is perfectly timed for the le spooky season.

>>10275056
What mod is that gun from? Looks sweet.

>>10274398
Sweet Half-Life until I die.

Mapping music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAjmiCTKmpY

>>10275779
I would really prefer they didn't put in multiplayer because it means a lot of time that devs get stuck rebalancing shit which can often ruin fun from singleplayer because something that was fun in singleplayer gets nerfed to oblivion and you feel like you never have the "complete game".

>>10275790
>What mod is that gun from?
war rooster

>>10274398
>Lore mods:

|---Induction---|
Just the best HL mod. You are Freeman BEFORE the Resonance Cascade. You've just got hired, you meet Kleiner, you conduct experiments, and race Barney in the vent to open Kleiner's office first.

|---Zombie Edition---|
You are a headcrab. Jumping on people, cooing, etc.

|---Point of View---|
You are a Vortigaunt. Also G-Man hires Black H.E.V.s

|---Sweet Half-Life---|
There are gray aliens in Black Mesa. Also anime.

|---Case Closed---|
You are a janitor.

|---SUM---|
You are a female Black Op. Also have to "hunt the cunt".

|---Focalpoint---|
You are another HECU.

|---Urbicide---|
You are just a guy trying to escape Xen infested city. Also warehouse fetish.

|---Field Intensity---|
You are HECU again. Also you can bring with you a couple of dozens of marines instead of default two.

>Alternative lore mods:

|---Uplinked---|
Uplink on steroids. Also fully functional brush robot.

|---Anticlimax---|
You said G-Man to go fuck himself at the end of Half-Life and now have to meet a few survivors of your personal holocaust.

>Total Conversions

|---TWHL Tower 1/2---|
Climb the building/get down from the building. Also TWHL Tower 2 has Half-Life: Abridged inside.

|---Half-Rats: a Fever Dream/Half-Rats: Parasomnia---|
You fight crazy monsters in 1880. Also you have a battle cat.

|---USS Darkstar---|
You are on a starship with aliens. Also Walter.

|---Night in the Office---|
You are John McClane now.

|---Cthulhu---|
Killing cultists is fun. Also Cthulhu Fhtagn!

|---Half-Life Rally---|
Escape from G-Man in a race car.

|---Heart Of Evil---|
They're not coming for us, are they, sir? Also zombie.

>>10275803
Well, I tried to dig something worthwhile out of 3D Realms' Discord server as I wrote that message and all I got regarding both is "extremely unlikely". So I guess you're safe.

>>10273459
>graphic improvements
the novelty wore off, also graphics are stagnated, rtx is a meme, they changed lightning fidelity for dlss blur

>>10272895
How would a shambler do against modern tanks, artilerry, drones, etc? I imagine most of these things are at least somewhat insulated against lightning.

>>10275582
The Chasm rules, fugg u nigga :DDD

>>10273459

>>10275941
Given their titchy range they'd be entirely reliant upon getting into zap range before getting shot to shit.

>>10275582
Barrels O' Fun is kinda fun.
The Chasm is nauseatingly annoying.
I think his worst ones are some of the city levels that feel like they're dragging on for ages. That block of boring, long city levels in around that first third of Doom 2 caused me to put off the game for very long.

It's really Plutonia and Plutonia-likes with their compact size, nice feel of place and challenging yet not unfair encounter designs are what made me love Doom again.

>>10275941
just teleport behind the operator, ez

>>10274536
If you're talking about that weird offset while moving, it is because of rendering interpolation. Looks fine without it.

>>10274398
Azure Sheep, Residual Life/Point.

>>10274332
>There's some technique tentatively called "Projected flats" that can give the appearance of 3d floors in vanilla, but you can't go under them, or look through them, or at the wrong angle.
That's the exact kind of effect I was looking for.

>>10275883
Based.

>>10274398
Poke646: Vendetta

>>10276065

>>10275582
I like The Chasm and Barrels O' Fun. Factory is the one level of his which I really don't enjoy.

>>10275582
Huh, I always thought Romero did Icon of Sin.
Anyway, Nirvana is the worst one by far.

>>10275958
Literally me, after spending so long sitting in front of a PC.

>>10273459
>What happened in the last 15 years that made hardcore fans slowly change their minds about graphic improvements
That's the thing, they aren't. High-res textures are ugly when applied to models meant for low-res ones. Sure there are model replacements, but not for the maps themselves.

>>10276359
>High-res textures are ugly when applied to models meant for low-res ones
This, already made fun of in the old grafics cat meme.

When a game comes out, the texture quality / fidelity usually matches the models, but if a texture mod comes out and they can't or just won't improve the models themselves they slap a higher res of "improved" texture on the low poly model which can look really off.

>>10273459
All those graphical improvements look awkward when you're playing them in such blocky levels.

>>10276359
This, high res textures on low definition geometry looks awkward and cheap.

>>10275968
The city stuff is mainly in the middle.

>>10275941
Kind of shit, as I don't think they can throw lightning hard enough to do substantial damaged to a tank, while a tank has a machinegun with a few thousand rounds and more importantly a really big cannon. Shamblers have some resistance to explosives, but even a small vehicle like a Bradley is gonna have a few hundred rounds for its little chaingun cannon, so you could probably Verhoeven those fuzzballs pretty well.

Shamblers greatly benefit from being indoors, in places where it's not easy to bring a tank. They'd probably even use their ability to teleport to avoid a really onesided fight with humans in armored deathmachines.

>>10273459
Hipsters and Phil Fish Happened and plagued the modding community.
Also there is the fact that many high res packs Outside the community curated ones are garbage
QRP for Q1 was literally the work of the old Quake 1 community to update Q1 into a re-release status, and is the most accurate texture pack for all the og textures.

Q2 if Evolved had continued on would be the ultimate quake 2 source port, but team blur dissolved.
Also it took a autistic russian to upgrade and make Q2 textures accurate to the source which is Vaa4444's pack at moddb.

>>10276651
A 50 cal would f up a Shambly wambly because it doesn't take that much time to destroy one even with a nail gun.

>>10276818
Shamblers seem like they might be some kind of semi-intelligent animalistic creatures, they have an allegiance of sorts but they seem more like they'd fall somewhere between a soldier and a trained guard dog.

That makes me wonder what Shubby would actually have for something tank tier. Would it plain be some mildly medieval looking vehicle operating on clocksprings and enchantments, or is there some big meaty fuck-thing with incredibly tough hide and maybe an ability to hock long ranged loogies of sticky acid?

>>10276818
Even the typical .30 caliber coaxial guns would do them in I think, as long as you concentrate fire for a bit.

>>10274332
Projected flats, huh?

>>10275941
If we take the level design mechanic of enemies teleporting out of thin air as an innate ability of Quake's minions to just enter a dimension wherever they please, then a shambler wouldn't need to worry about using its lightning or getting shot at from range, as it could just appear on top of a tank and start pounding away.

>>10276919
Considering a Shambler doesn't automatically annihilate a fully armored player with one smack, it feels like it probably would take a while even to get through the top armor.
Tanks tend to have little smoke discharging launchers on them (they look like three or four little tubes in a cluster) and that there exist some white phosphorus loads for some of those, you could probably use that to drive a Shambler away.

>>10276950
I was assuming that a shambler in the real world would take on a more physically explainable form as opposed to being exactly like its videogame form. Melee damage and player strength in the game would be something done for balance reasons. I don't think if a baron of hell in the real world threw a ball of fire at the face of a real, living person that they would just grunt and go pick up a health pack, they'd probably immolate into a green inferno and die almost instantly. Likewise, I think this hypothetical shambler would be able to attack a fair bit faster, as well as having more strength proportional to its size, strength that could be used with his massive claws for more than just swiping, like attempting to put dents into the armor or wrapping them around the tank gun barrel or even prying off the entire turret. Probably couldn't, but I'm sure it would fuck up a few things anyways.

The tank would still have a fair chance of survival, but it probably wouldn't get out unscathed.

>>10277012
I would imagine it goes something similar to how the marines fare against the alien grunts in Half Life. That game is also still one of the top depictions of human military vs aliens in videogames.

>>10276919
This should be a big concern for the “Doom” setting as well: Bad guys fucking all sorts of shit up because they can get teleported in to very favorable positions.

>>10275803
Not only that but in unlikely scenario that it does catch on, the devs will be forced to give more attention to the multiplayerfags and won't have as much time for the singleplayer.

any good unmaker sprites that work well with vanilla doom? nothing good on realm667

>>10277118
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snTrhGOGAF4
How's this one?

>>10277137
decent, although a bit too techy and the muzzleflash is pretty rough looking

>>10277143
There's a variant not crossed with the eternal Unmaykr in zrrion's resource thread on ZDF
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=35797

>>10277021
Yes, but why is your Gus mirrored?

>>10277151
this is really good and ill see if i can edit it into something i can use, other recommendations are appreciated

>>10274232
xentacle

>>10275883
>No INVASION
shame
>still spoils sweet half-life
shamer

>>10276818
I don't think the nailguns fire "nails" like here on earth. At least I never saw it that way to rationalize how silly it is to find nailguns over automatic weapons that use bullets.

>>10273459
>Even when it's not really faithful like in Quake 2 and Half Life?
On that era I was playing most games in software rendering still, and the only game that had filtering, that I recall, was unreal. And I liked it better than gl filtering.

>>10276665
>someone else remembers evolved
based.

thanks for the hl mods.
by the way, are there any singleplayer mods with counter strike gameplay and assets? or with any gameplay+assets from the other goldsource games like team fortress or day of defeat

>>10277231
Not exactly what you're looking for, but check out Timeline.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/timeline-series/downloads/timeline-part-i
>You are Gordon Freeman, formerly a scientist at Black Mesa Research Establishment, now reluctantly employed by a mysterious organisation as a troubleshooter. (They send you out looking for trouble, and when you find it, you shoot it.) You are contacted by the Man in Blue. He seems strangely worried; something has ruffled his normally impenetrable character. "Mr Freeman, we need your help urgently. It seems that somebody at Black Mesa has been experimenting with ... unconventional applications of the dimensional gateway technology. They have developed what appears to be a working time machine. "Unfortunately, the scientists who were working on it disappeared before we could ... persuade them to turn it over to us. It appears that we were not the only ones following their work from behind the scenes. A renegade organisation within the US Marine Corps got to them before we did, and used their technology to travel into the past.. Gordon Freeman against Naziz. Author: Ross Smith
It has two sequels, and they're each better than the last. Timeline is slept on for some reason.

>>10273847
>not writing a batch file selection system to load wads through
Kids these days.

>>10273459
>Remember when Dark Places was the future of Quake?
Yeup. I also remember trying to get this working.
>What happened in the last 15 years that made hardcore fans slowly change their minds about graphic improvements and demand more fidelity?
These two said it:
>>10275940
>the novelty wore off
>>10276473
>All those graphical improvements look awkward when you're playing them in such blocky levels.
I'd rather spend time making things like Doom 3 and STALKER look good.

>>10277471
That shotgun looks like it's good at finding truffles.

I have this hastily edited death knight skin with a bunch of fullbright pixels scattered about. Is there a quick way of fixing this or will I have to paint over every error manually?

>>10277497
Make a version of the Quake 1 color palette with the last 32 colors replaced with black and then apply it to the skin.

>>10277227
The Death of Quake 2 Evolved was never healed.
Even if Knightmare still has the source code with him

>>10273459
At the time, graphics advanced very rapidly, but polygon count was still comparatively low, so the ability to make a game from 1996 look like a modern one effects- and texture-wise blew everybody's mind. Modders added support for everything they could and didn't care about fidelity because it isn't the game that mattered but the mileage you can get out of it. Nowadays, all the bells and whistles of modern engines are at such contrast with original assets that they actually make them look worse (just look at GTA remasters). Because of that, cranking the engine up to 11 lost its purpose.
Also, when we are talking about DarkPlaces, we are talking about a game that like 3 or 5 years old when the development of a port started, that's about the age of Doom Ethernal now. Anyone writing the source port for Doom Ethernal will most likely focus on updating the game, because its look isn't yet percieved as something that needs to be preserved. And that's what modders did - they focused on updating games, not preserving them ("it is simply an improved Quake" is in DarkPlaces' description). Today, there isn't much point of making a game from 1996 look like a game from 2002, but the effort of preservation - making it compatible with modern software and hardware and removing limits for modding to shine - is more relevant then ever.

I first played Marathon 1,2; Doom 2; Rainbow 6; HL1; Q2; then Q1.

It just doesn't feel like a well put together game.
It is slow, uninspired, bland.
Q1 just wasn't ass good as the other.

>>10276665
>QRP for Q1 was literally the work of the old Quake 1 community to update Q1 into a re-release status, and is the most accurate texture pack for all the og textures.
I still really like the style Reforged was going for, and it looked great on Quake models. Shame it was never finished and modern engines don't seem to support it.

>>10277534
this would look better under the new md5 bodies

https://youtu.be/kHlJOMjon4Y
Obligatory mothly listening to cultists phrases and sounds

>>10277530
I agree. I've always felt the enemies and weapons were boring. I'll never really understand why people ride its dick so hard.

>>10277240
>Gordon Freeman against Naziz
The way he spells it makes it sound less like about fighting Krauts, and more like Gordon has some unspecified sort of beef with some arab.

>>10277642
NAZIZ, LIGHT

>>10272901
You should link directly to the archive for the Ad Mortem post since Anons who don't use 4chan X or anything like it don't automatically get a link and just get a dead post instead:
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10230372/#10235841

Adding more "cyberware"/whatever to the mutant makes it look like bones are sticking out. I'm on the fence with this.

>>10277530
>slow
Lol wut. How?
>Uninspired
Lol WUT? What other games from the era look and sound like Quake?
>bland
In what way? Where's your iq at man?

>>10277530
>slow
Anon really out there not knowing how to into bunnyhop

>>10277493
That shotgun looks like it belongs to the fuckers that stole Tomba's bracelet.

>>10277774
I first played Quake recently, and I didn't figure out bunny-hopping until like E3.
Game still didn't feel slow to me (except Ziggurat for obvious reasons.)

>>10275883
>|---Induction---|
>Just the best HL mod. You are Freeman BEFORE the Resonance Cascade. You've just got hired, you meet Kleiner, you conduct experiments, and race Barney in the vent to open Kleiner's office first.
Ah perfect. I'm gonna bring guns to work, ruin all the experiments, and cause a resonance cascade. Good luck everyone!

>>10275958

>>10277534
reminds me of Silent Hill 3

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
I just wanna play mods made for GZDoom in multiplayer
WhydafugClientServergottabesohardforthemtoimplement

>>10277534
That's a sick look.

>>10277874
Don't you just need to forward your ports and have the same mods?

>>10277881
the hard part is having people to play with

>>10277962
This is the classic FPS thread anon just post what mods you're using, let people know in advance you'll be hosting, and then host.

>>10277881
If the mod isn't made with multiplayer in mind, it's very easy to fuck things up and make playing with it an instant ticket to desync land. It's why the scoping system is in place in ZScript, but if you use players[consoleplayer] somewhere in a non-UI context, boom, you fucked up, because now it's referring to a different player on each client.
Mind you, some (ten?) years ago a friend and I managed to get a couple of desyncs on unmodded ZDoom Hexen. I assume it's better now, but still.

>>10277985
>unmodded ZDoom Hexen
via LAN, too. Two old-ass laptops connected with an ethernet cable, no internet. Yeah.

>>10277962
You are not me. It's actually easy to find people to play with. It's just that:
>>10277881
The netcode is real shonky and isn't conducive to drop-in drop-out. That whole peer-to-peer synchronization thing. That's why I mention
>why can't they implement Client/Server already
It makes it unnesccarily chunky to play, and the further you get out from your region and the more people you pull into the mix, the worse it gets.

Although I get it. At this point, it must just be too hard to take from csDOOM or Skulltag like Odamex and Zandronum did, even if they're all ZDoom derivatives.

>>10277962
what am i, chopped liver?

>>10278053
Not that anon but it's difficult to get a feel for everybody's schedules when everybody's anonymous. The solution to that is just host on a single day or time very consistently so people know and can make time for that, but life has an awful habit of fucking plans.

>>10278062
I was gonna make a point by hosting a random mod, but I've gotten sidetrack for almost an hour by my Zandronum server not working, so touche.

Granted, my Odamex binaries still work and I could still host something, but something something Hal fixing a lightbulb

>>10278145
>but something something Hal fixing a lightbulb
Story of my life.
>but I've gotten sidetrack for almost an hour by my Zandronum server not working
Just use TSPG

>>10278149
You can't say gamer words on TSPG, which also limits things you can say with vrsounds.

>>10278157
That's odd. Sure I get it, it's their service they can censor whatever they want, but it's kind of gay and niggury

>>10277497
for a single skin it's faster to swap colors in QME.
but if you're planning to do a bunch, other anon's right, you'll want a couple palettes with range cutoffs.

>>10278149
>just use TSPG
But I want the pain of fixing shit and hosting myself, and it's odd because the Q-Zandronum files actually seem to work as well.

How many of you serious lads own BFE Fusion on Steam? I'm gonna play some BFE Enhanced, a mod that makes BFE more SERIOUS.
>Returns classic enemies like firecrackers and male gnaars
>Revamps all encounters in the game
>Generally makes things more like a classic Sam game
I'm just gonna host a game and play, anyone can stop in.
IP: 47.147.66.48
Pic related is all the required workshop packages. Just go to Serious Sam Fusion>Workshop>Search for these. Classic co-op, so infinite lives. Respawn in place. I'm not waiting I already wanted to play but I figured if anyone wanted to join why not.

>>10278192
Neglected to mention there's also some new lines by John J Dick specifically for the mod.

>>10278192
BFE's not retro, you should probably try this on /vm/.

>>10278219
/vm/ is dead to anything that isn't what's already there, but I once asked ages ago if BFE was kosher and I got the okay.

>>10278220
2011 game, that passes the threshold.

>>10278220
Persistence is key, I remember watching SNS grow from a handful of anons playing together to reaching critical mass and needing to add a password because too many people were joining.
Not sure why nu-Sam should be allowed when nu-Doom isn't btw.

Fixed the shit with Zandronum. Had to hunt down an earlier version of a library, but uh, well: in the process of testing it on other versions, I've found the wad I was gonna play (preacher.wad) might actually be good Spooktober fodder, so I've had to take a bit to select a new one. Anyways:
WAD: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/v-z/vanguard
IP: 164.152.111.147:10666
Password: penis

It's 12 levels long and I'll be playing it for a little bit. Feel free to join in if you want.

>>10278223
Geraci is that you?

>>10278227
Trust me. /vm/ is dead to anything that isn't already there.
>Not sure why nu-Sam should be allowed when nu-Doom isn't btw.
As I said I got the okay before but I can see it's unwanted so I'll refrain from posting on it any further.

>>10278228
What's the name?

>>10278241
I actually never use doomseeker, so I didn't set one. Will just have to use cl_password and connect from the console like a barbarian

>>10278228
3 players

>>10278228
gg got shit to do thanks for hostan

I made yet another weapon for my mod, a silenced automatic rifle using sprites by Captain J
I also made an enemy skeleton who is basically just a reskin of the standard imp, the guy who made the sprites literally just erased and redrew parts of each sprite to make it a skeleton
https://files.catbox.moe/2myjrs.webm
I dunno if I'm gonna use the skeleton, just felt like making a quick enemy

Dawn of Darkness was really good.

>>10278228
Well ggz, thanks again for those who showed up. Turns out there was more than a few monsters, so it was good to get some help with that.

>>10278369
gg

Mapping music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1WKYnPNdiE

>>10277151
nice

Unreal with original weapon sounds or the ones from tournament?

>>10277210
Romero once said that Nailguns were only existed in Quake1 to make things more interesting (schizo-tech is cool I guess?) and challenging to master using them compared to generic hitscan MGs

>>10278628
>Nailguns were only *implemmented* in Quake1
great job autocorrect

>>10278628
>>10278637
Like I said I don't really mind, I've always just imagined them as being magical or super powerful in some way that warranted no bullets. They're cool and brutal, especially in Quake 1.5

>>10278639
There's always just the "explanation" that some dude thought it'd be cool to make a gun to fire the copious amounts of industrial nails that were left around the base, later refining it into the super nailgun. It's the kind of shit you'd imagine space rednecks would get up to.

>>10278719
True enough, rapidly firing nine inch nails at high velocities will kill just about anything just as well as any bullet.

>>10274758
I forgot to ask in previous thread, will there be a hospital shootout level in SG?
I still can't believe that Stranglehold didn't have one.

>>10277210
Manual tells it like it is:
>A two-barrel dingus that prickles bad guys with armor-piercing darts, technically termed "nails".
Ammo pickups for them are referred to as “flachettes”.

>>10278761
Not in-game, they're called "nails" there. Is this the internal name for (S)NG pickups?

>>10278768
There's actually an unused ammo pickup in Q1 called 'Spikes' that looks identically like a small Nails ammobox but gives you only 20 Nails instead of 25

>>10278768
>Not in-game, they're called "nails" there.
Correct, and that entry from the manual explains why that is.

hey everyone i made a small little challenge mod, right now it's pretty much done and i don't really feel like adding more to it and the only bugs i found are very minor visual bugs so here's how it works:
>start with a knife
>there are no other weapons
>ammo and weapon pickups have either been removed or replaced with health pickups
i included a modified/fixed version of bd21monstersonly within as my mod makes use of the interactable corpses, attacking them replenishes health little by little until you've got 75 hp, plus their modified movesets adds to the challenge
https://files.catbox.moe/0pkc22.pk3

>>10275790
Damn, I should go and play HEDON again.

>>10278834
Curious. I'll try it when I wake up.

>>10275940
Real time Ray tracing isn't a meme, rasterization is a janky patched together mess. Ray tracing is the future and it took 30 years to realize that.

>>10272901
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=78218

Indiana Jones-styled partial conversion is out

Need more Sunder worship like Abandon

Captcha: D0NH0N

>>10277530
damn bro sorry you have objectively bad taste in games and say the worst arguments against good games ive seen in months

>>10277530
I came into these games through the new 'retro' fps boom and I decided to play all the classics and once I finished quake I was just thinking "wait, that's it?". Agonizingly boring game imo

Arcane Dimensions is fantastic though

>>10279389
I feel the same way about Quake as I do for Doom 2. It laid the groundwork for something awesome, but on its own it's just okay.

More progress from my Ad Mortem map

>>10279751
Same vein. It was an overall positive experience and I have a soft spot for the elder world but it’s not something I go back to often.
I honestly haven’t gone back to any of the original campaigns for the Dooms in a long time.

>>10279757
This is looking very swell.

>>10279757
I'm really hoping I could find time to make a proper AM map and not the secret one.

Why is it so common for wads to shit the bed near the end? After doom was really cool, and the the final map happened and I am now not sure I want to ever revisit it again.
Cool pinky mini boss and though, and kudos for not using the blind pinky every other "horror" mapper does.

>>10279835
lmao looks like dumb fun. What other major wads feel like they “shat” near the end?

>>10279843
Wads don't become major if they shit the bed. Those I remember that dropped in quality were Ray mohawk 2, a.l.t and anomaly report has a lame final stage.

>>10279835
>WADs shitting the bed at the end
Reminds me of when tarns played Ad Mortem
>Reaches the Monster Mash
>"Oh my- I fucking LOVE THIS"
>He realizes it's an IoS map
>"Aw, it's an icon of sin?"
>"Now I feel like I do about this like I do about Aaron Rodgers"

Wednesday Kart Racing!
IP: 51.161.34.159
Details: https://pastebin.com/fFj8euau

Changes since last time:
Mattioz, Frostbrush, Subsonic and Chronoshift map packs have all updated
Pandaemonium has been removed (not helled) from Chronoshift on account of being fucking boring
Opentricks updated and should work properly, it has also been returned to the mod randomizer
Hellmap command should choose from all the loaded hellmaps now.

>I heard /vm/ made a new client based on 1.6, are we using that?
No, we're sticking with 1.3 CEP for now.

>>10272912
>When's waifu wad
idk but hopefully lead anon is ok (he was fucked due to a car crash)

>that platforming section in secret area on BTSX secret map
Not my problem.

>>10272912
Ad Mortem is the Halloween mapset.

>>10280030
>/vm/ has made a new client
I appreciate that they do such things, even if their whole thread smells of cum and the fights with Kart Krew border on the obsessive (not that they don't deserve it)

>>10278834
It's pretty fricking hard man. You have a good base however with the life leeching. Now add some swords and hammers.

>>10280213
Also I appreciate the CSS impact knife sounds against walls.

>25th Unit mod lets you edit weapon values for your own weapon balance changes
Fucking rad. Giving the shotgun one more pellet per shot has made a huge difference and feels real good.
>>10279059
Gonna play this

What is the doom/quake/etc mod equivalent of Tomonobu Itagaki directing a shooter

>>10280287
Mod? Probably Demonsteele for Doom.

>>10280098
It's the same way one appreciates Lovecraft for writing cool shit despite being an insane retard.

>>10280318
I hope one day to be based enough where everyone ignores my opinions in favor of my works.

>>10272895
https://github.com/Shadowlink223/SMM
Just remembered that this Samsara Monster Mixer is a thing.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1923884527?t=0h54m48s
Chasm haters btfo

>>10280330
How's this work?
>>10280342
People have incredibly lame opinions, it's true.
>A bloo bloo the map doesn't have enough ammo

>>10280342
He's mentioned before that he doesn't dislike chasm, and insinuated that it was good.
Chasm isn't a bad map.

>>10280468
Fukken brutal

>>10277530
Based

>>10280030
ggs, shame OpenTricks still doesn't work, I'll probably just remove it next time.

>>10280468
Lol I didn't even realize I did that. ggs anyways.

>>10280030
GGs, boys!

>>10280030
I am once again asking you for your replay support.

>>10280810
https://files.catbox.moe/4nzpd2.zip
Why?

>>10280818
Wanted to clip something, forgot to save them myself.

>>10273424
>too "happy" for Doom and kill the mood somewhat
That applies to a lot of the music in Doom 2. Most of the tracks sound like they're from an adventure game

>>10280837
It applies to the track in the first fucking level of the first game. I don't know what anon is smoking.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BSsfjHCFosw

>>10280842
Same goes for something like I Sawed the Demons, which just fucking rocks and serves to give you absolutely pumped up. Granted, one might say that these tracks serve a purpose more in terms of amping the player up and down, which is why you have such tracks at the beginning to get you revved up. That there's not enough consistency in how modders use music with the same purpose as in vanilla to be labeled as generally having good taste.

And if that was his point, I'd say Quake modders have a significantly easier time, as I'd say the OST varied very little in what it was trying to elicit from the player. There was some variance, but for the most part, it was the same kinda of dark ambience throughout. It felt like sometimes, the flavor of the track was changed to be a bit more twisted or to be reflective of the environment, but otherwise, it doesn't really shift nearly as much as DOOM's does.

>>10277530
try a harder mode?(more monsters)

>>10273424
Same.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Xi19xQekrs

>>10273468
kinda. but not all tracks are like that. i still like Plutonia's choice for Hunted. in this context it sounds cynical and demented

Playing another WAD. Feel free to join in if you want
IP: 164.152.111.147:10666
Password: penis
WADs:
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/combos/aa-tex
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/a-c/alienated

Should also show up now in Doomseeker as Booty Lickers Incorporated.

>>10280995
Don't alienated already contains aa-tex inside of it?

>>10281112
Server threw texture errors when loading only Alienated, and it has the tex wad linked on its forum post, so I'm inclined to say no, but I also wouldn't know if I just loaded it wrong

How do I make sure this water is opaque? I'm very confused. If it's worldspawn, the water doesn't appear on map compilation. If it's func_detail, it's always transparent no matter what the alpha setting is.

>>10281119
I dragged single file to zandy exe and despite errors, I get picrelated. aa-tex is a resours for mappers.
Also add vrsounds and vrskins if you're hosting for /vr/.

>>10281123
Oh my god finally just had to make a whole new brush for some reason.

>>10281123
>If it's func_detail, it's always transparent no matter what the alpha setting is.
Because func_detail IS worldspawn after compiling, and therefore is not affected by entity keys, only compiler ones.

>>10281169
That's good to know. Ty anon.

Was maybe feeling like swapping to the secret, but the server knows better (even though I was able to switch it after, but meh)

Anyways
>>10280995
GGz to those that hopped in. Will check and see what caused that problem with the server being marked as Q-Zandronum. Will also get around to grabbing the 3.2 binaries because why not, that's what the SNS boys used. As for Doomseeker being upset about the filename, it was simply cuz I rename them locally so they're easier to load with my shell script. Works just fine with direct connect, but I'll live with just copy and pasting filenames in the future so those using Doomseeker have it easier.

>>10281132
>also add vrsounds and vrskins if you're hosting for /vr/
Eh, I'll try to get around to it. This is just playing Doom when it feels like it and keeping the door open

>>10281306
>No group screenshot

>>10281308
Too many hot babes. Can't post on a blue board.

>>10281310
So many babes...
AAAAAAAAAAAAH!

>>10281306
3.2 is grabbed automatically if you're joining EB or TSPG.

>>10281325
Not 3.2 client binaries, 3.2 armv8 linux server binaries
I actually thought it was gonna be a quick thing, but unlike the other v3.2 releases, v3.2-230709 doesn't actually have it compiled for that platform, so I'll have to look around to see where the source code for that branch is
>ok so just use TSPG in the meanti--
No!

VRanon I'm in the final stages of my dm map for VR2. Upon testing in Ironwail, pressing TAB kills the game. Gonna test in vkQuake now.

>>10281403
Works just fine. I'm not sure it matters too much since Ironwail MP didn't work before but I reckoned it was worth reporting.

>>10277240
This image is making me sooooo hungry for Return to Castle Wolfenstein mods. Do good mapping / modding tools exist for that game?

>>10277231
I recall there was something called "SMOD Tactical" for Half Life 2 back in the day where you could replace the combine with Counter Strike : Source player models and weapons with the Counter Strike weapons (which kicked ass)

>>10281435
There's also the SMOD based mod CSS: Sci-Fi. It's a bunch of CSS maps populated with Combine enemies and entities (APCs and such).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8MY9A_-WDI
It was ridiculously popular back in the day. It's a great mod.

Is it too much to ask for to make the Mjolnir work underwater in VR?
That one level in Dwell with underwater Shamblers frying my ass completely consequence-free made me wish for being able to respond in kind - and I have recently discovered that the Drakemod allows you to throw your Mjolnir even if underwater without it killing you like in SoA

>>10281445
luv me drake
simple as
got writings and concepts of a drake episode. maybe one day when all my other goals are complete

>>10280468

>>10280468

>>10280995
fug, I fell asleep middle of it. GGs?

>>10280342
Exitmatch sounds like it'd be a fun mode to incorporate into ports proper, and Chasm would be particularly fun and hectic for that.

>>10280213
>>10280225
Thanks for checking it out
I have an idea to expand the mod a little by adding something of a story
The idea is the player character wakes up in a grungy abandoned factory place with only a knife to protect himself, and there are a bunch of other people who are in the same situation you're in who you're supposed to fight to the death with in order to escape
I'm gonna cobble together some replacements for the enemies to make them regular-looking people with melee weapons and make a few maps to complete it all

>>10281805
I'm surprised it's never been a thing. A race mode with co-op spawns sounds like the most basic idea.

>>10280701
just add acrobatics

>>10282503
The problem with acro and every other trick mod is that they're optimized like ass even when turned off. We can live without tricks, we have enough mod types to keep us busy. Or the host can just not disable chao

>>10281403
>>10281414
Yeah idk what is going on with Ironwail. I had a rewrite a bunch of stuff to avoid logic loops that are too long for it, but work fine in vkQuake and every other modern sourceport. Maybe one day it will suck less.
>>10281445
I still intend to overhaul the Mjolnir at some point - both with Drake-ish throwing and (if I can get it to work) directional attacks with different effects. Some underwater utility might be involved in that.

I've been sidetracked by IRL being fake and gay recently, hence the lack of updates. : /

Playan a brief spot of DOOM. 5 Levels
Same server deets as >>10280995
WAD: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/a-c/caf_inj
It's on Odamex 10.4.0 this time.
If Doomseeker is being cumbersome, then the command is just join <IP> <password>

>>10282834
I'm a dingus. It's connect, not join. Mind blipped

>>10282834
3/255 on MAP02

>>10282726
Gets us all man. Waifuwad anon is in and out of doctor's care. Stay safe.

>>10282834
Is it not possible to connect via the Doomseeker browser via ip? I'm very lazy right now and don't want to download those wads manually.

>>10282917
You should be able to connect via Doomseeker, yeah.

>>10282921
Scratch that, I'm getting boys saying they had to use odalaunch instead

>>10282834
rip in peace and pepperonis, server crashed and can't recover.

>>10282964
Got 3 of us still in here playin, but I'll see later if there was anything fugging it up

>>10272901
No one gave news but The Force Engine 1.09.5 is out with many new Graphical goodies until Remastered is out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh5O53fM-pk

>>10282834
GGz, closed. I really liked the wad, and it was a pretty good test run of Odamex. Might play more later, but call me an ass because I'm pooped for now. Thanks for those who joined it.

>>10274398
Ispitatel 4

>>10282092
>Revenant Bus is a real WAD
I keep forgetting just how motherfucking crazy Doom modders are at times . .

>>10283021
Aw shit you stopped? I was fixing my soundfont shit. Turns out that techno tune is actually exactly the same whether Arachno or the Microsoft default midi soundfont. The other tracks are different via Arachno and they sound bitching.

>>10283045
looks like that midi is actually not a midi so the change in soundfont didn't affect it. It was a tracker song, funky.

>>10281403
>>10282726
I recall Ironwail's original purpose being that it offered greater performance for the machines that could run it at the cost of some compatibility. Kind of odd then that it became the de facto, but I guess that happens when all the other major ports are dead.

>>10283142
It's de facto because QS still has trouble running bigger maps nowadays, and vkQuake died because the author took one too many cuts.

Playing some DOOM. Feel free to join in if you want.
Deets here: >>10280995
WAD: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/d-f/dzintxen
Back on Zandronum 3.1

>>10283632
WAD Switch.
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/a-c/crumpets

>>10283632
>>10283774
Closed up. GGz to those who showed. I'm glad people are able to just pop in like this. WADs were alright too: Intergalactic Xenology was a lot more fun than Alienated (not that Alienated was particularly bad), and Crumpets was interesting. Don't care for the increasing number of Archviles and Cybers towards the end, but maybe I'm just a brainlet, seeing how it still took an hour to clear 9 maps that were billed as being small.

>>10283873
Higher-level WADs expect you to have nailed down 2-shotting cybies
https://youtube.com/watch?v=0usYUJoRN6I

>>10283889
That makes sense. 3 cybers swarmed by a shitton of Lost Souls makes for a pain to shoot from afar, but if you're bobbing and weaving up and two-tapping in closer range, that's not so much a problem.

>>10277529
>Today, there isn't much point of making a game from 1996 look like a game from 2002
There should be, it's really underrated how fucking ugly Quake is.

>>10284139

>>10278739
That's a pretty cool idea. I might slot that into the streets level. Maybe like a back-alley hospital?

Well I found the issue to this >>10280995 not showing up in Doomseeker right. It was the master server being set to Q-Zan's, which I was somewhat aware of, but trying to fix it didn't seem to work--which was a whole other thing. From the looks of it, the server has to be up long enough under the new master for Doomseeker to view it as a different sourceport, and I kept stopping it to try a different fix before Doomseeker could do that. Additionally, it may or may not just be locked entirely if it's pinned, I dunno.

Anyways, it should work now, although given the track record of other things that should've worked, I wouldn't get too many hopes up. After all, Odamex has already decided it's done talking to masters anymore itself.

>you feel a certain tension
I must say that invisible Fiends are far more scary than Bruiser-Shamblers

Everyone excited for Realms Deep?

>>10284613
What's there to be excited about? Aftershock release date? Wrath release date? Possible demos? I think I'll remain sceptical until I give it a watch.

>>10284620
Cool games? Yeah, hopefully some solid 3D realms release dates. Some switch ports for games. And a "mature" pinball table for Pinball FX with possibly a FPS theme.

>>10284631
I didn't know shovelware was considered cool.

>>10284718
Shovelware is cool...
Shovelware was always cool.

>>10284613
Moreso curious, I would say. I could be excited, but would rather watch it with an open mind and get surprised.

>>10284613
It's not retro.

>>10284529
>Phobos Anomaly in Quake1
what map?

>>10284613
I'm somewhat looking forward to it. Not jumping out of my pants-excited but there could be some cool new info about Ion Fury : Aftershock and other throwback fps games.

>>10284613
Actually yes.
I have some hope for release dates for Ion Fury Aftershock, Selaco and Phantom Fury.
There is also some modern stuff showing there. But 2 big names already released yesterday (Fortunes Run and DU).
Still, it has always been an enjoyable show to me.

>>10284802
There's a lot of GZDoom build games. So yes, there is stuff that's allowed here.
Also Ion Fury Aftershock. So suck it down with your little mind.

>>10284861
If it’s like last year, discussion regarding not retro games will just get purged anyways. I’m more interested in the Rekkr boxart that Revae teased some time ago.

>>10284613
I think it will be cool, I'll watch

>>10284613
if it shows anything interesting that was not achieved by modders in a more accessible and better performing manner, then sure. but so far it never did.

>>10284836
HardcoreMazu's map for the Sinister625 mapjam project

>>10285081
>if it's not completly new, i don't like it.
Nothing is original anon. Not even myhouse.wad was completly original. I never get why some people hold new games to such a high standard. Was Dusk original and not done better by modders? No. Was it a good time? Yes.
Just give them a break. There are some really nice gems among the "throwbacks".

>>10284859
I played the FR early access. Cool game. Might be something for Deus Ex or Hideous Destructor fans. I got murdered a lot. But not retro. Hope the post stays anyway.
The developer is a little sensitive tho.

>>10285176
>Just give them a break.
And just give them money? That’s not how this works and this is not the place to seek such altruism. Many people here have tasted the rainbow with what’s available through custom content.

>>10285202
You do realise you don't have to buy what you don't like? Given the success of a lot of those throwback shooters they seem to be enjoyed by a lot of people. I agree with >>10285176 on that. There's a lot of cheap trash but also some really enjoyable fps. Even if only one or two a year really hit the mark for me.

>>10285202
>some people have tasted the rainboy with what's available through custom content
Yeah, no one disagrees? But by that logic, we shouldn't have bought games past Doom, because there's no place more rainbow than Doom's modding community.

>>10285202
Quake, Half-Life, Doom. 3 games so you'll never have to buy a new one anon.
>>10285223
>>10285235
Anon above is kinda right. But I get your point too. I still buy some new stuff though.

>>10285223
>You do realise you don't have to buy what you don't like?
Water is also wet. >>10285081 is right on the money.
The big thing is how many players who are interested in these titles that do NOT have a PC or the means/knowhow to dive into this custom content.

>>10285292
With all those console ports, that's even more of a reason for those games to exist. Good for the console players.

>>10285081
>>10285176
>>10285202
>>10285223
>>10285235
>>10285257
>>10285292
>>10285354
Y'all stop bitchin'? Who cares what someone else is playing? Why tf does it matter to eighter one of you? Back to thread topics now.

>Who cares what someone else is playing?
Me and the few others interested enough in these games to justify the thread’s existence, as well the endless sea of wads and mods made with the intention of having other people enjoy them.

>>10285803
Yeah, it feels a bit ridiculous to pull the "just ignore it/don't buy it if you don't like it" card, given that part of the point is discussion, and it's not like any of the shooters are closed off from the rest of the ecosystem. If they've failed or that's your perspective, then that's fair to talk about, and doubly so if it's with the intent to sell me something.

Who knows, maybe anon was excited to show off his new commercial GZDoom game at Realms Deep and is suffering from imposter syndrome now. You'd have to be some kind of a sales rep like that to take that kinda of stance, I'd say.

>>10284861
>So suck it down with your little mind.
Some anons just can't help themselves and strive to be your typical "no fun allowed" mods.
On that note, Pizza Tower getting a nomination at Golden Joystic Awards is kinda neat.

>>10285876
Shame the community around that game is surrounded by toxic little cocksuckers though

who is the worst id employee and why is it tim willits?

>>10285875
>Who knows, maybe anon was excited to show off his new commercial GZDoom game at Realms Deep and is suffering from imposter syndrome now.
That's what I like. Just like every other GZD mod I can view, edit, mess/have fun with those games like I do every other mod and it's fun to learn from. I started trying that out when inspired by an anon here who was trying to "fix" Shrine or something.
>>10286171
I always found it funny: Sandy is a huge Lovecraft buff responsible for Call of Cthulu while Willits is a skinwalking eldritch monstrosity powered by backstabbing negative energy.

>>10286241
>Call of Cthulu
Oh shit, I didn't know Sandy was the designer for that RPG. It explains why the design Quake Episode 4 drives me to utter insanity.